Super Mario Bros. 2 Versions Comparison [The DEFINITIVE edition]
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This video features Super Mario Bros. 2 ports comparison across multiple platforms including ROM hacks. Here we will take a look at the differences between them so you can decide which one is the Definitive version out of them. Type your choice in the comments.
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Album name: Super Mario Brothers ~Mario Syndrome~ (1986)
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Video chapters
00:00 Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic (Famicom Disk System)
03:54 SMB2 (NES)
07:05 SMB2 (PlayChoice-10)
09:53 SMB2 Super Mario All-Stars (Super Nintendo)
13:13 Super Mario Advance (Game Boy Advance)
18:42 SMB2 Remaster (NES)
21:28 SMB2 Remaster (SNES)
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Interesting that even when it was Doki Doki Panic, there were still things that were strictly Mario in there. The coins, and the POW block in particular, both having appeared in the series since Mario Bros. Arcade, five years earlier.
@Mari_Izu
Жыл бұрын
It started as a Mario prototype before being reworked into a Yume Kojou tie-in, so I won't doubt most of these elements were already there when it was still a Mario game.
@stevennguyen6529
Жыл бұрын
And the sound effects.
@JD-mz1rl
Жыл бұрын
And not only that, the principal people developing it were Mario devs too, go figure!
@Tommi1981
Жыл бұрын
@@Mari_Izu Those were news to me. Wonder how the "clean" Mario game would have been :) (Without Doki influence)
@user-pe7up5od7i
7 ай бұрын
Also a Starman shows up if you collect enough fruit.
1:48 dont you love when you're playing a nintendo game and get jumpscared by blackface
SNES Remaster is like... "HEY PAISANO!"
@el_dallasyt
Жыл бұрын
Super mario show reference
@johnnobon
Жыл бұрын
It's also in line with the concept art for the game. Mario had red overalls in all the art, but in game they were blue. The all stars remaster is really cool because it tries to match the concept art from every game
@MidoseitoAkage
Жыл бұрын
@@johnnobon Yeah. That's why I love it so much.
@annieskywalker9290
Жыл бұрын
@@johnnobon in the américan box art, which reuses part of the concept art for mario 1
@GoosyGooseMX
2 ай бұрын
Hello Mario...
I just love the effort put into the GBA ports. Advance 4 will probably remain my favourite (it's SMB3, it's a great game, what else can I say lol), but Advance is the best version of SMB2. Mario Bros. minigame, extra features, new intro screen, voice lines, and more!
@GoosyGooseMX
2 ай бұрын
Advance 4 in the virtual console had a lot of extra levels with the elements of all the Mario Advance Series. Making it a brand new game. Seriously, the dude who made the levels is a hero.
Idk why but SNES Luigi reskin looks cursed lol. His eyes tho👀
@kricku
Жыл бұрын
Mario is missing for PC
@ryanwinter8813
Жыл бұрын
That's my work. Thanks for the comment.. I'll probably give his face a tweak before the final version.
I really love how much this game has changed and evolved over time. The GBA version feels straight up a completely different game from the FDS version
All these versions are great. I first played the GBA version via emulator in the early 2000’s and my younger sister was watching me play. At one point she asked,”why do they have to make so much noise?” My response was,”what’s wrong? It’s just character voices.” While turning up the volume a little more. 🤣
@TieZeeGuy235
Жыл бұрын
I grew up with the gba version too on the WiiU. I didn’t know how to play the game so I just died over and over again. 😂
The Mario sprites on the SNES remaster are incredible.
I like what the GBA version did but the zoomed in screen and washed out colors make it difficult to choose over the SNES version. A hybrid of those 2 would be the ultimate version.
@otaking3582
Жыл бұрын
I didn't find the screen crunch to be a problem, and the paler colors actually match the boxart better than the SNES sprites, where everything looks like it's been given a tan.
@1993StrangeBoy
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure there's a patch to make the color palette to be the same one from the SNES version
@Medachod
Жыл бұрын
@@otaking3582 You've been defending the GBA version an awful lot in the comments.
@otaking3582
Жыл бұрын
@@Medachod Because people keep giving it undeserved hate.
@AltairEgo1
Жыл бұрын
@Otaking Mikohani I gotta side with the OP on this one. The colors are too washed out, the music sounds like it's being played on an old record player
I love the remastered versions!
The princess peach in Smb2 remaster is beautiful!
My favorites are the original NES, then the SNES version, then Advance. I didn’t like how the characters looked in the remastered versions. The original music is the strongest in my opinion. As much as I like the GBA version, it did add quite a bit more of giant aspects that I felt took away from the game instead of adding something cool. Thanks for making this video because I didn’t know of those remastered versions. That’s interesting.
Love the SNES remaster hack, the characters look like their official original SMB2 artwork. Not fond of the shy guys and Toad seems to be missing a red dot on top of his hat when climbing, else everything seems to look great!
@SkullMan---
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
I didn’t know there were remastered graphics mods for both NES AND SNES! They look pretty good! (Apart from NES+ Birdo)
Oh my god I love that updated SNES Birdo sprite, the way she's movin' her arms looks like she's puttin' up her dukes, like _c'mon, come get some, you wanna piece of this_
21:33 woah a new file select screen
Very nice. It remember good times on Nes
Its so wierd to hear the now Typical Mario Music over a game with other characters
@alvallac2171
Жыл бұрын
*It's (contraction of "it is/has") Its = possessive *weird
I love the gba version only because those voice clips are on point
Geez! In all these years of the "Did you know Mario 2 was Doki Doki Panic" fatigue, I never once looked into what Doki Doki panic was actually like. I didn't realise it was literally just a frigging sprite swap!
@the-NightStar
Жыл бұрын
That's because it's not. There are a lot of differences beyond that. The waterfall speed is different, enemy sprites are different, there is no run button, the character sprites are different, the levels have differences in their design, there are additional cutscenes before and after that are different, with a completly different story, the grass animations are different, the powerups have different sprites, and the game is required to be beaten four times with every character completing every level, the RNG on the slots are different, the score value of the end is different, and the continue system is different.
@nathanieldonley5502
Жыл бұрын
@@the-NightStar your examples included at least 5 instances of sprite swaps, lol. There are a few differences like you mentioned for SMB2, like the added ability to run, no battery backup, and no requirement to beat the game with all characters. Other than that, it’s 99% the same game.
Glad to see my hack there at the end, but I should say the Demo is outdated at this point, I've updated a lot of character sprites, and the Demo doesn't have any color pallet work done yet. The final version will give Luigi a more vibrant green, give Peach her blue earrings and brooch, Triclyde will be red, and Wart's Jacket will be a darker blue.
@Diegus-
Жыл бұрын
how can I get your hack? Which one is it nes or snes?
GBA version was the best. Best graphics, more features, and awesome voice lines.
@ParanoidThalyyMVS
Жыл бұрын
Really? I always thought those voices were annoying given how frequent they were...
@otaking3582
Жыл бұрын
@@ParanoidThalyyMVS Maybe it's just because I grew up with this game, but I never found the voices annoying.
@JohnSmith-zw8vp
Жыл бұрын
@@ParanoidThalyyMVS I thought the voices were cute, especially in Mario Advance 2
@ParanoidThalyyMVS
Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-zw8vp I think so too, I just feel like in the first Mario Advance it can get a bit annoying with how frequent they are.
@MidoseitoAkage
Жыл бұрын
The music however is horrible. I found crispy and high pitched like the other Mario Advance. The colors are too bright
my favorite mario experience was nothing but a lie all along
I never knew about those remastered versions. Wat.
They literally had a golliwog for the koopa shell 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ 1:48
@patricio5910
Жыл бұрын
And?, were you offended?
@djbrotherson
Жыл бұрын
@@patricio5910 Nah. It's just disappointing mostly. Quite shameful
The sound effects of the turn ups in Doki Doki Panic 😂
talking Birdo will always be funny to me 😂
I Like the Normal SNES version!
I prefer the original Super Mario Bros 2 or the Super Nintendo remake where the character never talked. In later installment, they never shut up. Sorry... Oh, and of course the remastered one. The new character sprites looks amazing!! Some reason, it heavily reminds me of "Super Mario Bros: Super Show".
@DeAthWaGer
Жыл бұрын
There's a patch to shut them up for the GBA one. I use that one and the pallette fix patch and the game is way better.
14:33 GIANT SHY GUY!
The FDS sound emulation is inaccurate. What the sounds are _supposed_ to sound like, is what got recorded into the "Mario 2" version's samples.
The remaster finally makes the door knocker look like a door knocker, and not a smiley face.
I've nver heard of these remasters before. When did they come out?
I love the shy guy sprites from the snes remaster
Looks like all they changed in the remastered versions were the player and enemy sprites. I would've gone further by editing the background and foreground sprites too.
If the ones who made the SNES remaster had the mechanics of the Advance version, I'd buy it up in a snap.
@the-NightStar
Жыл бұрын
I think that's literally impossible.
Wait... the thumbnail just made me realize that Mario was pointing his nose upwards while pulling a vegetable out, I ALWAYS THOUGHT HIS MUSTACHE WAS HIS EYES SQUINTING
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
😂
@Josuh
Жыл бұрын
im trying my hardest to see what you're seeing but i can't
Something that annoyed me back in the day was that in the NES and SNES version is that Mario's Overall is not Red and his sweater not blue and Luigi's overall is not Green and his sweater not blue/Purple(personally I prefer purple😉) like in the SMB2-artworks😅 the version at 21:29 is perfection in my eyes😃👍
@reloadpsi
Жыл бұрын
Those just used to be their actual colour schemes. Mario's profile in one of the Smash games straight up points out that the colours swapped at some point in time.
1:47 this item might hurt some sensibilities what the heck 😂
Ive always since I was a kid wanted a play choice for my house! Id love to get one!
I love the GBA one. I played it when I was 6. Very nostalgic
doki doki panic has such style that I would play it over Mario any day
Why did they do this? Doki Doki Panic deserved more appreciation. Wish that game wasn't an exclusive to Japan.
@zanegandini5350
Жыл бұрын
The characters in it belonged to Fuji TV, so licensing rights is why we never got it in its original form. Though frankly, the refinements made in SMB2 make it a better experience overall. There is a romhack called "Super Doki Bros. 2" that reverts the characters back to their original forms, so you might be interested in it.
Smb2 is one of my favorite nes games. Wish I had a players choice 10 cabinet in my gamroom
A separate file select? Has somebody made a split standalone version of the All-Stars games?
One Question, When Opening the Games after Patching them I get an Anti Piracy Screen, What do I do in That Case?
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
Destroy the file🔴
@ThePirateToxic
Жыл бұрын
I already did it, is there a solution?
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
Oh! I thought you were kidding. It works fine for me. 👉Make sure u are patching the correct rom mentioned. 👉use different emulators, SNES 9x for snes games and Nestopia or Mesen for nes 👉use IPS online patcher or download tool from the same romhacking site.
You know what would be great? Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic ---> With SNES (all stars type) Graphics... Seems like no one ever did it... Perhaps Mesen would be a way to make it.
You need to use either integer scaling or Bilinear Filtering. Notice how some of the pixels are randomly stretched?
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@Josuh
Жыл бұрын
Playing pixel games with bilinear filters on feels like a crime, interger is preferred though
Have u ever made any nes games?
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
You mean modding?
the bonus stage on both SNES versions hurt my eyes. Other than that, it's the best looking one.
Super Mario Bros 2 feels like it fixed a lot of weird things in Doki Doki Panic, not any game breaking bugs, but rather things that felt wrong, and reworked it into a proper mario game, might not have floating blocks but still has a lot of Mario elements and even the elements within the game were kept in the Mario Franchise, The GBA Port is by far the best version since it feels a lot more like a mario game, rather than a reskin
Music is amazing 21:46
Doki Doki Panic had a lot more going on. Mario 2 was just... Red screen with text.
Beatles hacks of super mario bros 2 is good too ❤❤❤❤❤
question where can i find the remastered smb2 and is there more? and i mean snes wise
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
currently there are these 2 remasters only available as per my knowledge. I have added the links to the Patches in the description.
@nakulemonadekitsune204
Жыл бұрын
@@Retromantra thanks
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@DaniSSF2Mods
4 күн бұрын
@@RetromantraFake Super Mario bros 2 Is Yume kojo Doki Doki Panic Hack
@Retromantra
3 күн бұрын
@DaniSSF2Mods really!!! OMG 😱 I didn't know that! 🤣😂
Wow, I've never seen the GBA version of this game before, it actually looks like it's a lot of fun with all the changes they made. I want to play it now. Has anybody ported it to SNES or another console? I think the only thing that needs changed is the resolution/screen space.
The sound effects from the boss fight from the Doki Doki Panic footage are not accurate because of the game being played on an emulator, just to be more precise 😅
▪️ I always hated how on the NES - certain parts of games' music cuts out alittle bit when sound effects occur. ⬛️
@alvallac2171
Жыл бұрын
*a little Two words, not one. Think of it like this: a few, a little, a bunch, a _whole_ bunch, a lot, a _whole_ lot.
@2NDFLB
Жыл бұрын
@alvallac21 ▪️ Yea technically you're right, but I personally like spelling it "alittle" instead - bc it makes more sense to me personally. So for something like a youtube comment - I will spell stuff RONG. ⬛️
@mchevre
Жыл бұрын
@@2NDFLB Just so you know though, "alittle" isn't even a common misspelling. People commonly misspell "a lot" as "alot" but I literally never see anyone misspell "a little" as "alittle." So if you do it, just know it looks very obviously incorrect in a way that stands out to all readers.
@2NDFLB
Жыл бұрын
@@mrgoat86 ▪️ Yea I know. I wouldn't do that on something like a job application. I'm not super worried about it on YT comments thou. Imo it SHOULD be spelled "alittle" just because no one in real life SAYS "a little". People say it fast. Kinda like "letter". I would say change that word's spelling to "LEDDER" . ⬛️
@JD-mz1rl
Жыл бұрын
@@alvallac2171 the world has collectively lost a little more brain power after you spent it writing that comment
I've never see the remastered versions, are they fan-made? 😮
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
Yes, fan-made
@iPackle
Жыл бұрын
@@Retromantra Oh cool
Hey, did you guys know that Super Mario Bros. 2 was originally a game called Doki Doki Panic?
1:47 wait WTAF 😂
Maybe it's just because I'm used to the original game, but I really don't like the reworked sprites in the NES Remaster. They look way too disproportionate. The SNES Remaster, however, looks really nice, though I'm not sure I prefer it to the regular Super Mario All-Stars version.
A combination of the Gameboy Advance version and the remastered SNES version would be the best.
I think none of these ones are the version I played a lot of time ago, the version I played had a window up and left that shows diferent game characters with diferent expressions , if it was happy, probably nothing happens, but if it was angry, the character would throw you something big like a Bomb or something else, this happens as least at the ice world, does anyone know the version?
I don't think I'd call those redone sprites a "remaster." I'd use a more accurate word, like "downgrade"
É muito legal os extras do GBA
I remember when it came out; I was super excited to get it... and the voice lines made me not want to play it and not buy it. After 5 min with the GBA SMB3 port, I tried to find an option to disable them in the menu, and then stopped playing after my friend confirmed there was no way to turn it off. I specifically asked my parents to NOT buy me a GBA SP or the game for Christmas; and I knew several others who returned it or didn't buy it. Having Mario screeeeech "HEHE JUST WHAT I NEEDED!!#@" for every mushroom in a tinny ear piercing shrill sample was just painful. Thank god I didn't get this version & have to listen to this version of Toad. I mean - why even have the sound effects if you're going to have a screech over them. I'm kinda surprised by all the comments saying they love the sound effects and terrible additions and worse graphics & music than the SNES... I guess I'm not too surprised; it's what you grew up with & have nostalgia for, I suppose. Good comparison video. No need to include those terrible rom hack "remasters", though.
@the-NightStar
Жыл бұрын
The voice lines were fine and you're greatly over-exaggerating.
De Donde salio el remaster/reskin de la SNES?.
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
It's a demo. I made a video on it already Super Mario Bros.2 Redrawn|SMB All-Stars|Fan-made|#Mario kzread.info/dash/bejne/eo1htNCteNmveKw.html
I don't understand why those remasters exist. They don't look better. The best version is the SNES version, and if I could combine the best parts of any of them, I would be the putting the color palette, screen size and audio of the SNES version into the GBA version. It also kinda baffles me why Nintendo hasn't tried to make a "New Super Mario Bros 2", and go back to this game as the inspiration. Super Mario 3D World has the right sentiment (being able to play the 4 characters with their SMB2 abilities) but that's about all it shares.
What's playerchoice 10 and remaster versions?
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
Playchoice is official arcade version and remastered is a fan made hack
Ok when and where did the “remastered” versions come from? I never heard of nor seen them before this video. Almost looks like we’ll done rom hacks.
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
Because they are fan-made rom hacks.
@Josuh
Жыл бұрын
more often than not your answers lie one click away at the video description
thumbnail honestly looks like he's about to pee himself
Wait, who or when did they remaster SMAS?
What is the opening song?
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
Please read description.
it makes full sense that that wa snot a mario game at all . everything changed you dont kill monstwers by stepping in them etc
Doki Doki Panic has Save Files
Where are the remastered versions from? Virtual Console?
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
they are rom hacks
「夢工場ドキドキパニック」のバージョンもあった方がいいんじゃないでしょうか?
where can i download 18:42 SMB2 Remaster (NES) ? TT
@Retromantra
10 ай бұрын
get the patch here: www.romhacking.net/hacks/3726/
@paquepack
10 ай бұрын
Thank you sso much!! :) @@Retromantra
@Retromantra
10 ай бұрын
You are welcome 🤗
The Original SMB2 for the NES is the best version in my opinion, the music sounds better, and thats the most important part of a game!
@the-NightStar
Жыл бұрын
gameplay is way more important than sound
@TheCrossingChannel
Жыл бұрын
@@the-NightStar your opinion
@auroralabel
Жыл бұрын
I agree i love the nes version
gba and snes music slaps
What were the names from Doki Doki Panic
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
Well as per Mariowiki there are called: Imajin, Mama, Papa, and Lina
18:46 Since when was a "remaster" when you make the graphics worse?
Not a fan of the remastered, never even heard about it till now, is this a romhack or something official?
@Retromantra
Жыл бұрын
It's a fan-made rom hack. Both of them.
Doki doki panic is actually copy of mario bros Theres sounds like jump, grabing things, and shy guys
Color pallette fix patch is necessary on these older GBA titles, makes a world of difference. I personally use the voice removal patch as well, got way too sick of hearing them through the OG GBA speaker back in the day. Most annoying demo unit in any store, ever.
The SNES version is my personal favorite 👍😸👍
I do not like the graphics of the NES remastered version. They look really weird
That NES "remaster" is just all kinds of weird. I legit have no idea what they were even going for with it. Like... just doing the game again, but uglier?
For which version was the best, i'd go for the SNES one. The remasters are too.... super show-looking and I don't quite like them. For Doki Doki Panic and NES, sure they are good, but Doki Doki panic has irritating noises and NES feels *way* too retro. GBA, you would say it's a good version, but the colors are just like putting the colors on 200% in your GBA emulator, putting it on an acid trip, and washing it with bleach in the washing machine. Aslo, the voices are too much, like every time you do something Mario goes "HAHA! JUST WHAT I NEEDED" and it's quite annoying.
Luigi looks strange
The remastered versions.. tripe 🤭
17:48
So retro...
Not keen on the sprites in the 'remastered' versions.
I honestly would LOVE to see a 3D remake of the first three games.
and Mario USA?
are nes and snes remaster just hacks ?
gameboy advance was the goat
23:56