Great video , good to see proper brake bike finally ! I built my Pina F 54 Pluto rim brake 2 months back . We're sitting at a scant 5.68 kg ( ready to ride with pedals , cages and mount ) with THM Cranks , Lightwork carbon chain ring , Cane Creek Brakes , 1 x setup , dura ace di2 11 spd , Cadence Tubs , Selle C-59 saddle , few Ti bolts , Tune cages . Perhaps one of the craziest builds yet . PS - got the same Castelli kit

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

🤩🤩 wow, what a spec!! Was it not the one on display at Sigma a few months ago? I have a short video on that one as well!

@knedragon

2 жыл бұрын

@@fede1275 I'm Stateside , Florida . One of these days I'm going to post up a video . I can send you some pics if you want .Impatiently waiting on Darimo for a post (straight) . not a fan of the 25mm set back . The frame set popped up for sale one day and I grabbed it . I also just grabbed the new Castelli 6.0 Jersey

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@knedragon well done, I would put a straight seatpost as well. Such a coincidence, another Dogma F here in the UK - London with very similar spec! Would love to see the pictures, you can also send them on Instagram @fede1275 👍👍

What an absolute beauty! Love the recurve in the forks and stays, the lines just flow, PROPER design! Talking to your bikes - classic! Bella!

@fede1275

Жыл бұрын

Bellissima 👍👍

Wonderful to see you out and about on your dream bike Federico. And perfect weather also. Superbo.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

😁😁

My dream bike as well! Thank you for taking the time to shoot the vid!

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

👍 👍

Incredible bike! Looking scary fast to me 😄. Great video again, thanks Federico! Hope one day your dream will come true!

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, definitely a serious racing machine!!

Just found your channel. Loved your honest review. They are difficult to come by. I am fortunate enough to have just built the Dogma F in Disc Brake but am yet to ride it as I am recovering from COVID. Will hopefully take her out on her maiden ride in a few weeks. Great content. Subscribed!

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I hope you will be out riding very soon!!

I love the arc of the top tube. It gives the bike a powerful look.. like the bike is ready to pounce.. like a wild beast. :). Bella

That was Awesome Federico!! I have a 2015 Tarmac that works just fine. But can only Imagine how nice that Dogma rides

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely a great experience, luckily in cycling previous gen bikes still ride very well, especially rim brake ones.

Keep on doing what you do as we all appreciate it 👊🏾✊🏾👏🏾

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 😄

I really like how the bottom bracket area is constructed. Looks very strong around bearing area and plenty of room for internal routings. Great video!

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, impressive engineering.

That PINERELLO is art, i still ride my 2013 dogma :) and im happy,nice video as always.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Never seen you look so happy! What an amazing experience for you. I sense trouble in paradise (ie : the bank balance)

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but only when I find my missing bitcoin 😁

You killed me when you talked to both bikes!! Lol Love the content, hello from New York

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

I believe it does help 😂😂

Excellent video , Federico . Bravo ! 🚴🏼👍🏻

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Grazie mille!

Great review thanks Fede - always appreciate your very cultured insights. I was fortunate to have the opportunity recently to chose between a Dogma and a S-works Tarmac SL7 but couldn’t bring myself to go for it… it just felt wrong (or at least a bit ridiculous) for an amateur cyclist of my limited ability to ride such a bike. My compromise was a lesser SL7 with some upgrades to bring it close to top level but much cheaper and less conspicuous. It’s a fantastic bike and I suspect could run close to the Dogma! But a bit like when I owned a Porsche a few years ago, I would have felt a bit of a nob with the top of the range…

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

I can understand your feelings, but ultimately it is your choice and if you can do it who cares!

@iMadrid11

2 жыл бұрын

My buddy bought a Pinarello Prince. Same geometry as the Dogma with less inexpensive carbon fiber than the pro version.

I'm a bit late watching this,but wow well done 👍. So happy that you had that great experience.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

👍 👍

Amazing review/ video! I have the same jersey..awesome fit and quality 👌🏻

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I love it, I also have the black one!

Enjoyed the video! Thanks for sharing

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!

Classico 👌You looked good on it my friend.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Rim brakes (direct mount) on top end bikes like this one are just next level amazing

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Such a pity they are not offered on other brands!!

@stfu6397

2 жыл бұрын

@@fede1275 exactly I myself have a Pinarello Gan RS with rim brakes and carbon wheels and it’s so damn amazing. Can imagine an even slightly lighter bike like these with carbon handlebars, carbon saddle, carbon stem,… I just love Pinarello

@cyclonutterd7075

2 жыл бұрын

I did the same on my Oltre XR4, with Campag SR EPS, it's also stunning with rim brakes, rim for the win 🏆

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyclonutterd7075 rim XR4 is also on my dream list!

Very enjoyable and funny video! I can imagine the feeling of "lightness". After riding a ~12 kg aluminium front fork 'hybrid' for over 2 years (that is still my commute), getting my sub 8 kg Ultimate was just a revelation.. Just accelerating from a standstill was such an experience.. every pedal stroke, wow ! Good bikes are just the best experience one can have !

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it was the same for me when I got my Ultimate, it just felt alive!

@tongotongo3143

Жыл бұрын

I have had exactly the same situation and to be honest I didn’t even notice any dramatic difference between 12 and 8 kg bike as many people suggested.

She’s very pretty, your new friend 🤩 and she really suits you, charm and sarcasm are also art forms 🤘🏼 ride on Fede

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

I know, pity it was just a one afternoon stand 😂

What a cracking video, love the ending very funny 👏🚴‍♂️🚴‍♂️

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Great video and a great bike. It must have been a special experience. It's interesting they have a rim brake version. I did my first AUDAX today with some tough climbs and some exhilarating descents, I was impressed with my rim brake performance.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

It really was! I never had a problem so rim brakes in the dry. But I never drag the brakes especially on long descends. You would need to give the rims the time to cool off for a bit.

@michadebicki6534

2 жыл бұрын

@@fede1275 I have the feeling that discs on road bike are simply too strong. I crashed yesterday because my front wheel locked up and I wasn't even braking so hard. I have hydraulic 105 on my bottechia.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@michadebicki6534 that's what some are saying, yes. I have mechanical discs on my Merida, so not really comparable. A friend of mine with his new bike with hydraulic discs in an emergency stop flipped over the bars!

@michadebicki6534

2 жыл бұрын

@@fede1275 yup, definitely possible! On second Bottechia bike 8Avio which is currently on the trainer I have full hydraulic tiagra (2020) groupset with tiagra shifters and brakes. They actually have even more stopping power (probably due to higher end shimano discs which were part of the factory spec of the bike) and flipping over the bars is very easy when the brake is grabbed with force in a emergency stop situation. This is scary. But, they're great when you have to shave off lots of speed quickly while descending. I switched to discs because one time on the descend a car stopped in front of me and my ultegra rim brakes with koolstop pads were not able to stop me in time. I needed to land in a ditch, luckily a bunch of leaves cushioned the impact. But it seems that hydraulic pizza cutters can be an "overachieving" solution in many circumstances because I never experienced such easy front wheel lock-ups in a wet before.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@michadebicki6534 you are right, there is not an easy solution to reduce stopping distance. Physics apply.

What a machine! The bike isn't bad either 😅 great vid as always. If only I could afford one.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂 I definitely can't!

Hey Fede , what a bike !!!! You’re very lucky ! I had a go on the old dogma and it was super smooth. The dogma F that you ride !!!! Well what I can I say ! It absolutely suited YOU! you looked cool Riding it . Makes me want to get my Pinerello now and go for a spin 😂. It’s a rest day today as I’ve cycled 200 miles this week . Maybe a spin around Richmond pk on her tomorrow. Your canyon will be very near now you’ve on the Dogma F 👍🏽

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, there is always time for a spin on your Pinarello! I am still loving my Ultimate, so it is all good!

Fredrico I am really enjoying your videos. Great humour, great honesty and interesting viewpoints (rim brakes?? 👀) Keep them coming. 😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!!

@steveindorset

2 жыл бұрын

@@fede1275 can you tell me what do you do for a living that allows you to commute to work?

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@steveindorset might sound strange, but I work in the motor industry sales 😬

@steveindorset

2 жыл бұрын

@@fede1275 wow! I really did not expect that! But it tells me why you’re such a good communicator. 👍🏻

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@steveindorset I'm still thinking I ended up here by chance. But it's been 20 years 😂

Italians has this gift for beautiful designs, not always the most practical ones I need to say. Definitely, there is soul in every item they do.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Very true, especially regarding practicality!

LOVE IT!!!

What I great video. Cheers from Bavaria 😀

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Espectacular y preciosa bicicleta. Ojalá tuviera yo una igual

Loving it ❤👌🚴‍♂️

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

😄👍

An outstanding bike and an outstanding human being riding it 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊

“She’s just a friend”,love it

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

😄😄

Fede, at the beginning I was afraid that you ended up having sponsored content losing the key differentiator of your channel: honest reviews without trying to sell anything created by and for average riders, but I finished the video with a smile from your jokes! I’ve re discovered your channel yesterday, (now subscribed) and watched all your videos from the one about the seat height that was the one I’ve seen long time ago. Awesome content you have! I know your channel will soon get +100k subscribers and might change, but hope remains as this “old KZread era” content. Ciao

@talonlan

2 жыл бұрын

Sponsors are fine and allow content creators to invest more of their time into the channel if done right like Francis Cade it doesn't impact the content at all.

@lenzirodrigo13

2 жыл бұрын

@@talonlan true that is also good content

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

I am trying to maintain a true reflection of my experiences, really talking about what surprises me or made me learn new things. Who knows what will happen if the channel grows, but I'll still be me!

Great colour combo 🤌🏻👍🏻

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

That would be my choice too!

I could just sit and stare at a Pinarello all day and never get bored.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Work of art!

Bought a Dogma F Rim to replace a '21 Prince FX Rim (F12 trickle-down) and some older Dogmas. The F is soo comfortable. You don't see any flex but feel suspension. Holding your line and steering into a corner is completely telepathic. The riding is so relaxing that I zone out a lot more than on other bikes. I was surprised that it is so much better than the Prince FX. The Dogma F Rim is one of the best road bikes I have ridden. May the rim brake live on!

@fede1275

Жыл бұрын

It's still my dream bike! Yes, handling is very stable and ready for high speed

What I like about bicycles, aside of snobbery, that you can ride 10 times less expensive bicycle than Pinarello and still enjoy riding equally if not even more sometimes.

You've definitely upset your Canyon there!😂 The Dogma is a lovely bike, I'm not a big fan of the current dropped seatstay trend, it looks acceptable here though, but only with rim brakes! #savetherimbrake

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

I know, I had to work hard to regain her trust 😄. Definitely looks amazing with rim brakes!

my heart was in my mouth watching this when you were holding the camera and riding one handed...........

@fede1275

Жыл бұрын

In reality I thought about that before and I was anxious, but the Dogma is so stable that it was easy to ride one handed. More stable than my Ultimate.

@elliotbates

Жыл бұрын

@@fede1275 i'm glad you (and she) survived!

Bellissimo video e bellissima bici - you made me ‘Like’ and ‘Subscribe’

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Grazie mille!! 😄😄

Beautiful bike pure art your a very lucky man 🇯🇲🙏🏿👌🏿 I ride a Bianchi 🇮🇹 😀🤛🏿

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Bianchi are fabulous, you are riding a masterpiece!

great review (...e poi diciamolo: la miglior bicicletta nel miglior allestimento possibile)

@fede1275

Жыл бұрын

Assolutamente si!!

Love my Pinarello Gan training bike, great bike for the money

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

👍 👍

i wanna have Pinarello Dogma F thats the best actually upon seeing your blog i do believe that indeed it was d best

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

You are right on both counts 😄

“ it’s stuck “ Brilliant

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

It was 😂

Fantastic, I'm a Tarmac man myself but what a bike the Pinarello is, was it all you hoped it would be?

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not easy to capture all the feedback in an hour or so, but I can tell it’s a more focused race bike than the Ultimate, so more capable for all out efforts and maybe less enjoyable for all around use.

@davidabbs4459

2 жыл бұрын

@@fede1275 interesting, I suppose it's like a ferrari, nice on a sunny day and nice to look at but an expensive luxury unless you're a racer.

smiling!

Rim break Dogman F is peak Aero bike imo 👌

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

What size was this F and what’s your height ??? Love the rim brake setup

@fede1275

Жыл бұрын

I am not sure, I was too shy to ask her... I believe something around medium or 54, as she was slightly smaller than the L Canyon Ultimate I usually ride. A dream bike for sure.

Great video, great humour, but my question is about your opinion, after your test ride, is this bike worth this difference in price, against your Canyon.....🤔

@fede1275

Жыл бұрын

It’s not easy to answer and in reality it depends on the intended use of the bike. The Dogma is an all out racing machine and its justification is based on the assumption that she can let you finish ahead of your competitors. In that context even that absurd price can be balanced by the need to win. At that level the margins are small, but a win by a small margin is still a win. For a leisurely use then my Ultimate is entertaining and exciting and is all I really need, but I’m not racing and my priorities might be different.

I have a team concorde from the 90s. Italian steel electric blue paint full crome fork full crome seat stays @ chain stays Italian tricolour painted on the top tube aswell and of course on campagnolo. She's beautiful so much so I can't bring myself to get a spot of dirt on her!!! Check out the pdm concorde team from the 90s fantastic painted frames from that time.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Great, looks amazing!!

Hi Federico - if you had the choice-would you buy a tarmac sl 7 or this pinarello dogma F?Thanks Did you ride these two bikes?Greetings Thomas

@fede1275

Жыл бұрын

Hi, I didn't have the pleasure of riding an SL7, but just based on the emotions I would go with the Dogma, in rim brakes. It is just, at least in my mind, something else, like a sculpture on wheels, based on efficiency. It is just love more than reason.

Very nice no doubt. But honestly I like the overall look of your Canyon and its wheels better. 🚴🏻‍♂️😎 Besides, that Dogma would probably just cheat on you anyways.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

You are right! The risks of punching above your weight 🤣

N+1 !

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Not on this one 😂 ££££££££

You looked the Italian idol on that bike, obviously it was made with you in mind, no other possible reason.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

You are too kind, thank you. I might try that at the Pinarello store 😂

Im not a fan of aero bikes at all but love rim brakes. wish more companies still used them. would take rim over disc any day.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! I only use my better rim brake bike in decent weather, I have my cheaper disc brake bike for the rainy commute.

@MarcraM82

2 жыл бұрын

@@fede1275 that's definitely the way to go! I don't ride ever in the rain, so rim for me all the way. I will have to build my next bike custom with rim brakes I think!

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcraM82 yes, because unfortunately we are the minority and the industry hasn't got the resources to cater for both systems. The majority prefers discs and that's it sadly.

Plutonium is a nice volour combination-I also like xhrystal white

@fede1275

Жыл бұрын

That shape looks great in most colours, silver and white are amongst the best, yes

I heard that the braking is rubbish on the new dura ace rim especially with the F..did you notice anything like that?

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

That one had Enve wheels and I did not ride that hard. I remember brakes were a bit noisy, but it might have been the pads really.

A suggestion... superglue... saddle... say no more ;-)

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Genius! Should have done it.

I have the F12... I will keep it. I prefer the look of the 12.

@fede1275

Жыл бұрын

Nice one 👍

To be Italian, bene! It would have been perfect with Campagnolo kit and wheels! Grazie

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

I know, the owner prefers the reliability of Shimano. I agree all Italian would look cool! Ciao

10:27 "just a botta e via"

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Purtroppo si!!

Dear Sigma Sports. After riding this Dogma F rim brake I want to buy it. I have recently bought another bike so I have no money though. However I could trade you two Canyon’s and a Merida. Not enough. What about if I add my wife in as well. Hell, I will even throw in a dining table to sweeten the deal so when she gives you grief you can even hide under it. Sold.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂 I tried and it’s still not enough!!

Ever considered their lower tier Prince as your dream bike?

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

The Prince looks great and I'm sure is a very nice bike. I preferred to spend less on the Ultimate rim to still have a lighter bike. The Dogma is the unreachable dream, on the other end.

@ariffau

2 жыл бұрын

@@fede1275 haha. Right. A question. What would you rather have? 2 Canyon Ultimates or 1 Pinarello Prince?

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@ariffau so far I already chose 2 Ultimates, as I also have the Merida with discs to use on the commute when it rains. If I had to get only 1 bike than the Prince could make sense.

weight?

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

7Kg complete

@timtaylor9590

2 жыл бұрын

@@fede1275 oof, what groupo?

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@timtaylor9590 shimano dura ace 12s

@timtaylor9590

2 жыл бұрын

@@fede1275 they didnt make 9200 rim brakes right? so are your calipers 9100?

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@timtaylor9590 you are too good and clearly that confirms that it's not my bike and I'm not enough for her 😄

Federico Glad you got your ride on your bike! As I said before, if I pay silly prices, I expect "Italian-made" ,not "Italian-Design!" It must also have top-end Campagnolo kit on it, and not that awful, bland, ugly Shima(NO) on it! As for the MET Trenta helmet. I had a Liquigas MET helmet which was awesome quality like a KASK, back in 2007/8, but when I got a recent Trenta carbon, I immediately noticed cheaper quality, with a "Made in China" label, so sent it back. and complained to them, but they don't care, or respond!!! There are nice Italian companies, and unhelpful, nasty companies! I tried to buy some Santini Mercatone Uno shorts in 4XL from eBay, from France, but seller refused to sell to me, because Brexit mean's customs, delivery, and VAT are expensive!!! Yet, I am the person paying the extra costs!!!

Where was the button to ‘turn it on’? I’m still looking 😜

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

For decades I rode an all Campagnolo Record, Columbus steel tubed Guerciotti SL. I was consistently happy with it UNTIL I repaired my stepson's carbon Giant TCR and took it for a test ride. I was forever spoiled for the responsive feel of the bike. I had betrayed my trusty old friend. I hope this hasn't happened to you with your Canyons...

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

I can understand! Luckily my Ultimate is also super responsive, so I'm still happy!

Beard make more aero.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

Obviously hahaha

Typical Italian stallion 'cheats' on another bike.🤣😂😅

@fede1275

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

Meh… the look of the Canyon is much better, IMO.

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

I love my Canyon Ultimate, you are right. The Dogma is a very different approach, remarkable in its own right though.

@paulmcknight4137

2 жыл бұрын

​@@fede1275 Well, how would you describe the difference in personality? As an instrument of forward locomotion scribing the terrain like a fine Stradivarius violin, what notes or harmonic overtones are the Canyon missing?

@fede1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulmcknight4137 nice analogy 😄, I would say the Ultimate can produce a well rounded music and melodic tones, the Dogma maybe can hit the higher pitches but with more skill needed from the player.