so much for the old saying "american cars are only fast in a straight line"

It's funny how they can commend the Mustang track pack here but 2 years later vs. the camaro 1le it's as if it's the most dog shit car of the century.

As much of a mopar guy as i am, its getting really hard to hate mustangs when they perform like this >.>

great video. i like it how they bring in a driver that knows what he is talking about. he definitely has to come back for future videos.

There is one area where the m3 for sure exceeds the mustang. PRICE

In the magazine article they had two drivers. Ones was Randy Pobst, the others was the "average joe." The average joe had a faster lap time around the track with the Mustang, than he did with the M3. So unless you are Randy Pobst, you most likely will be faster with a Mustang. Here is the article for the skeptics out there. www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustang_gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comparison/curtain_graphs.html

Yep This vid helped me in my decision. Got a black 5.0 two weeks ago. Love it!

@acs4llc thank you you are part of the few with logical processing power on youtube

As a 2012 GT owner I love my Mustang but if I had more money I would get the M3 simply for the refinement. There are not many "affordable - sub 60K" cars that I would be willing to trade up to other than an M3, 2015 Corvette, Caymen or an S5. All great cars

@1234zcrom

10 жыл бұрын

I couldn't have said it better being a 2012 Mustang GT owner myself. But lately I've been getting so many compliments on my car (I did a few mod though) that I may not want to trade it for an M3. Nice thing about the stang is the aftermarket - for the price of an M3 you can turn your stang into something much nicer. Check out AmericanMuscle.com or summit racing.

@kylepollock3555

10 жыл бұрын

***** My new '14 GT turns more heads and gets more compliments than my '08 S6 ever did. So happy I switched from German to American

@2InfinityRKX

2 жыл бұрын

Never getting a European. Domestic all day

@MikeyG003

Жыл бұрын

@@kylepollock3555 to be fair you had an S6 lmao. that's a very boring looking car in general. Compare it with something similar to the mustang that is German

@Fatal_Inertia

3 ай бұрын

Most reasonable mustang owner

I know i'm late and this is an old thread...however...respect to the Mustang...clear win and it is waaaay cheaper! Now listen, I love BMW...but this is clearly a Mustang win, period...better balance, better brakes, better "g", ect...and it sounds wicked! You got this one Mustang, you got it!

@sparkymike83

9 жыл бұрын

Pappys Pizza BMW noticed. that's why the M4 is much improved. they need the GT350 for a more even match

@hotspringsautospa1707

9 жыл бұрын

The M4 will be no match for the GT350. The GT350 has ran a lap on Nurburgring to rival a Porsche 911 GT3 in fact the GT350 was one second faster than the Porsche.

@christopheryniguez825

8 жыл бұрын

+MyChannel3 Yeah exactly. The M4 is absolutely no match whatsoever to the GT350R and still only 2/3's the price. The 350R runs in the 1:30's at Laguna Seca while the M4 runs a 1:39. Thats nearly a ten second difference. Thats phenomenal! The next car to complete with the 350R would be 7.0 litre supercharged Z06 or a 250K European car. No argument here.

made for interesting viewing! always loved the mustang. would have thought the floating disks on the m3 would have done more in the breaking test. does anyone know whats on the ford?

Bought one three weeks ago, in great part because of this video. I was considering the BRZ but you can't ignore 420 hp!

wow look at the m3s wheel at 7:25 it looks like its coming off the rim

M3 is a 2008. Ford took it apart and found cheaper parts to develop similar performance in 3 years. Spent less on Interior, Chassis, and Overall dynamics to offer a similar vehicle lacking the precision and balance of an M3. The GT is a great car for the money, but I guarantee that you put a faster lap time in an M3 for the average driver than the GT. The M3 exploits drivers confidence

@MrGimmethreesteps

9 жыл бұрын

In the magazine article they had two drivers. Ones was Randy Pobst, the others was the "average joe." The average joe had a faster lap time around the track with the Mustang, than he did with the M3. So unless you are Randy Pobst, you most likely will be faster with a Mustang. Here is the article for the skeptics out there. www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustang_gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comparison/curtain_graphs.html And BTW the 2011 mustang's chassis is similar to the 2005 mustang chassis, with a lot of components and settings from the 2008 Bullitt mustang.

@davidusminimus

9 жыл бұрын

MrGimmethreesteps I'm sorry but I've driven both and hands down the m3 feels so much tighter and balanced. The mustang has kind of ridiculous amount of brake dive.

@SpyderRios

9 жыл бұрын

Yet a regular folk was faster in the Mustang GT go figure! you can make all the escuses you want, the fact is that a Mustang GT is head to head with the M3 while the Boss 302 destroys the M3 in every performance comparison.

@DCGarage

9 жыл бұрын

davidusminimus You're right about the brake dive. The Mustang doesn't feel like a buttoned down sports car, but that certainly doesn't make it slower, even in the hands of Joe Blow.

classic motortrend video

Love the m3 ..ey guys would u buy an m3 as ur first car when u start working or ul start with a small 1 ? Really need advise

I'm a Mustang guy obviously as shown in my pic; I get the BMW guys point of view: They're paying for exclusivity and premium features. In most large towns, there's 5 or 6 Mustangs in every parking lot, but there is probably only one M3 in the entire area, and has great performance while also playing the luxury car role. Now the Mustangs guys say that for the price different between a 5.0 and an M3, we can customize/modify/enhance both the looks and performance of our cars to where it not only looks like none of the other Mustangs around, it will out perform almost anything on the road. I agree with both points. And it's really a silly debate because BMW guys are not going to consider a Mustang because they think it is beneath them, and Mustang guys have neither the budget nor the interest in a German car. Simple as that.

So, both great cars. But lets look at the big picture. Cost of ownership. What does an M3 cost compared to an GT? What are average repair costs to an M3 vs a GT? What is the resale value of an M3 vs a GT? Which is going to cost more to insure? And an M3 vs a GT? Why not do am M3 vs a Boss 302? That would be an awesome comparison!

@Fearzzy

8 жыл бұрын

+Frank Castle i'd definietely pay 25k more for the M3 than get a GT, just saying.

@HDFrostbite

8 жыл бұрын

I definitely WOULD NOT, just saying... The Mustang looks better and has WAAAY better bang for the buck.

@paulmaartin

7 жыл бұрын

the e90 m3 got rod bearing problems and if you aren't careful you can up having to change the engine and sadly it gonna cost at least 20k

ya that sound you get when you put an high flow exhaust on that big v8 is an instant hard on what year stang you have

plus, to get rid of that brake dive, get some different springs, and a Barton 2 post shifter bracket and the short throw shifter

"You can just dance the car" - Something Mustang owners will never understand

@tomnguyen7178

9 жыл бұрын

i dont think you understand it either lol

@sparkymike83

9 жыл бұрын

Sebastian Stanglmeier the mustang with live rear axle can dance. it likes to sway its behind specially at the fast corners. ask me how i know this.

Time for a rematch. 2015 with IRS.

@Trades46

9 жыл бұрын

MyChannel3 I'm genuinely interested today with a 2015 Mustang GT vs. a 2015 BMW M4.

@sparkymike83

9 жыл бұрын

Trades46 BMW noticed and they really stepped it up with their M4.

@Trades46

9 жыл бұрын

sparkymike83 Yes, but the 2015 Mustang is something else altogether.

@fatboy19831

9 жыл бұрын

sparkymike83 Gona need the new GT350 to take out the M4.

@hotspringsautospa1707

9 жыл бұрын

The M4 will get it ass handed to it by the GT350. The GT350 is way faster than the M3, M4, M5 etc. The GT350 ran faster times at Nurburgring than a Porsche 911 GT3 RS, Audi R8 GT, Nissan GTR V-spec, RUF RT12, Porsche 911 turbo just to name a few. BMW does not even have a car that lapped the GT350 faster. The closest any BMW has gotten to the GT350 time is the M5 and it was 23 seconds slower.. FYI Ford states the GT350 will be priced some where between the 2014 Boss 302 and the GT500. So for a little more than $50K nothing for the money will touch the GT350.

I bought a 2013 Mustang GT because of this video. Motor Trend better keep bringing Randy back!

Why is the bmw roundel emblem on the mustang steering wheel?

Baltahfeek The BMW's engine is great, no doubt, a 4 liter v8 that spins over 8k rpm. However... he 5.0 was also featured on Ward's best engines upon its debut in 2010, and if you look into the technology of the 5.0 (DOHC with cam torque actuated, twin independent variable camshaft timing) you'll find that it stands up against ANY mainstream EU or JAP design, makes more horsepower than the m3 while spinning less RPM, pulls with 95 ft-lbs more torque, and is also capable of over 26 mpg, but let's call it 26 mpg at regular highway speeds. The only automotive internal combustion engines that are more advanced would be a camless pneumatic valvetrain design, like what Koenigsegg has been developing....

@smilesic

10 жыл бұрын

This was really insightful, where do you stack the 5.0 compared to the M156 (or m157?) C63's NA V8? even though its a 6.2L engine compared to the 4L and 5L from these guys. Just curious as you seem to know more than the average user on engines :)

@2013FiveOh

10 жыл бұрын

AMG no doubt has excellent engineers, but those engines lack the tunability/versatility of the 5.0/Boss 302. The AMG v8's are very very good, but a large portion of the actual performance of those vehicles can be attributed to the automated manual (flappy paddles) as you may know, many europeans don't like to modify their cars, but the 5.0 is perfect for modification. The engine is far more durable than the stock 420 hp rating would suggest, as Ford Racing offers supercharger packages that increase output to as much as 624hp with no other modification aside from what comes in the supercharger kit. There are no "user-unfriendly" drawbacks to this, however. Cam torque actuation allows for the engine to behave like an economy car when cruising, and a tame race engine within 0.2 seconds at any RPM when you put your foot down. People have also seen 600hp, all motor, no boost or nitrous, from camshaft and cylinder head modification on 5.0's.

@1234zcrom

10 жыл бұрын

good comment. I have a 2012 5.0 and would choose it over a beemer any day. Can't beat the performance for the $$$. It's a v8 that redlines at 7000 rpms (more with a tuner) - pretty cool. Only drawback is that it really only gets 18mpg - also requires 8 quarts of oil. Anyways google about Ford MPG estimates and you'll find they lie. But I like the car so much the mileage doesn't bother me. I'm thankful I didn't buy the less powerful and over priced BMW 328...

@2013FiveOh

10 жыл бұрын

Remember to reset your fuel eco. I had a 2012 GT (MT82) with 3.31 rear gears and I remember seeing 26.4 to 26.6 mpg at 70 mph on thousand mile road trips from Texas to Florida and back. My 2013 has 3.73's and struggles for 25 mpg, gearing makes a huge difference.

@Dogboy1960

10 жыл бұрын

2013FiveOh I have a 2014 with the track pack,,,,,,,,those 3:73s come at a steep price to MPG......25MPG is a fantasy. My average overall with 2000 miles on the clock to date, has been 17MPG. On a 150mile road trip a couple of months ago I reset and managed 21MPG on the highway at speeds running approx 70MPH most of the way on "Cruise" and maybe 25 miles of two lane black top at 50MPH.........that's pretty far away from 25MPG.

I would still take the M3!

@EatmyDust1311 amazing !! how much is the blower ??

@MrMomo710 whats so great about bmw tho the soft touch material or the name ??

The M3 and the 5.0 are for two different people. Yes the 5.0 gets you more bang for your money and cheaper to maintain. It's like comparing a 5.0 and a Civic. The 5.0 is more expensive than the Civic. But if you put $5k on the civic it'll smoke a 5.0. But would you rather drive a civic or a 5.0? Would you rather drive a 5.0 or a M3? It's al personal preference. Both are amazing cars.

@mkelebay

9 жыл бұрын

pretty sure 5k in a civic wouldn't come close to smoking a 5.0, assuming you could get some cheap as fuck turbo setup, the rest of the car isn't up to snuf, not to mention the problem of front wheel drive.

@DCGarage

9 жыл бұрын

***** Even then, it would be nowhere near as reliable as the Stang, not to mention you would have voided the warranty. You would have to bring 6 spare axles with you everywhere you went! Plus you would have to run so much boost that you'd be lucky to get anything close to 100k miles out of that engine and trans.

@mkelebay

9 жыл бұрын

***** Yeah no, even still it wouldn't, you would have to spend 8k on a turbo intercooler parts and labour alone, maybe more, and thats not even touching brakes suspension would probably be ok, but then you have the problems that come with turbo, will your clutch and tranny hold up?

@jay4627

6 жыл бұрын

I know this shit is old but A226044 you're an idiot. Do you not comprehend anything that you wrote? "Like comparing a 5.0 to a Civic" LMAO maybe you missed the part where the 5.0 equaled every bit of the performance of the BMW in this video. "put $5k in the civic it'll smoke a 5.0" First that's false, 2nd if it were true it would also smoke the BMW LMAO. "would you rather drive a 5.0 or a M3?" I'll keep my 2012 5.0 thanks. If I had a 2012 M3 I would be pissing out money for repairs right now, after all the engineered failures kick in

1 liter more displacement and 2 hp less

@ps31871

6 жыл бұрын

And 90 pounds of torque more, more displacement more torque

@Spiritcr1jsher

6 жыл бұрын

And 4 more MPG with a bigger motor for 35k less

@helpmelol7097

4 жыл бұрын

Spiritcr1jsher And with solid axle instead of Independent Rear Suspension

I'm always impressed by Randy Pobst. He reminds me of Tiff Needell: he gives constant vocal feedback when driving flat-out around a racetrack. I really appreciate his extremely in-depth description of each car's behavior. Rather than just tell us that the M3 is "more refined," he describes and illustrates what that means. Of the two, I'd rather have the Mustang b/c of the lower price and b/c BMW is in the 40th percentile for reliability here in the States.

I replaced the stock shocks on my Stang with Koni's and it was a huge improvement.

Such a weird thing that an American magazine says that the American car is superior in every single way than the European, and just say the BMW is the winner and the European magazines say the European car is the best. Bizarre world.

@npjM3

10 жыл бұрын

youre totally right my friend to see wich one is bette we must try them ourselves

@Eidrian111

10 жыл бұрын

someday we will my friend, greetings

i get too many compliments on my 2011 5.0 to worry about an m3....i dont see people walking up to my bud in his m3 and telling him how bad ass it is. mustangs possess that raw edgy type look, m3s may be refined and such, but they look like they should be parked outside of a nursing home.

@misterd717

10 жыл бұрын

if you dumped that kinda money into a car youre embarrassed to show up in, then you sir are a moron.

@misterd717

10 жыл бұрын

it wasnt an insult, it was an accurate description...

@predatorshelby5780

9 жыл бұрын

***** I make 6 figures and drive a mustang. Oh which i traded in my M3 for by the way. The fact that its 30k less and way cheaper to maintain, repair, upgrade seems like something someone successful and who likes saving their money would do.

take a look at the displacement, are they in thye same league?

I know this video is pretty old now but it is still awesome. I love seeing how far the mustang has come. it was originally meant to be an american sports car capable of competing with the European counterparts. I think it is awesome that the current cars are still carrying on that torch. Of course few people would admit that a mustang could compete with a BMW but i really think it does and i think this video is a great testament to that.

M3 is for losers, Mustang GT is for winners!

@iwasadeum

8 жыл бұрын

+Gertzerroz The Mustang is less than half the price...M3 is the TOP of the line 3 series. Mustang GT is the middle of the line car.

@iwasadeum

8 жыл бұрын

+Gertzerroz The M3 won subjectively. The Mustang won objectively. $76,000 car is only one tenth faster around a track than a live rear axle $31,000 car rotfl.

@enadipasholli8683

8 жыл бұрын

+Adeum Deus fast forward 4 years, they cost the same

@godsaveamerica2611

8 жыл бұрын

+Enadi Pasholli WHAT??? On what planet is a brand new current year m3 the same cost as a mustang GT??? If you're saying that the 2011 m3 is now the same cost of a 2016 mustang GT then that I can believe.

@enadipasholli8683

8 жыл бұрын

Michael Yang yeah thats what i meant. sorry for not clarifying. i meant a 2010-11 m3 to a 14/15/16 mustang.

I love the part were he says "try that in a mustang and you'll be off the track!" that says it all. Ultimate Driving machine!

Sounds well researched and reliable. Consider me convinced.

Piston oil jet delete, track pack specific brake pads, gear selection button on the side of the automatic's shifter? Seems to me the heat extractors in the hood are just as worthy of mention as the Boss 302 radiator and such, since they serve a similar purpose, to keep heat down in their respective area, and weren't available for 11-12, and i've owned both, looked at both side by side, the 2013's roof is lower and you can feel the difference in aerodynamics at high speed.

drop 25,000 into the mustang and rematch it....

@pabauza

8 жыл бұрын

+juicyearl Drop $1500 on the Mustang and rematch it. Trust me I had one

@christopheryniguez825

8 жыл бұрын

+pabauza very true

@goofyexponent

8 жыл бұрын

+juicyearl Put a set of shocks on the GT and do it again. lol. That would make a world of difference right there.

@juicyearl

8 жыл бұрын

+Frank Castle right! I have Konis on mine and it makes a world of difference

@goofyexponent

8 жыл бұрын

I have a 2012 V6 Premium, and while its not the fastest thing going I love it. Insane mileage, decent power, smooth, no complaints. However that may go all to hell when i stuff 8 psi down its throat this summer Lol

You pay 20K more for 2 things, German and BMW. Nuff Said.

@TheGeorgeLara

10 жыл бұрын

Steven McMiert lol I've had a 2008 GT for 5 years and I've never had a problem with it... don't get me started on how expensive it is to maintain a bmw for 5 years

@TheGeorgeLara

10 жыл бұрын

Steven McMiert that's great

@shazmaster

10 жыл бұрын

Steven McMiert but that resale value tho :(

@djreewind

10 жыл бұрын

TheGeorgeLara Too expensive? It's $0 for 50,000 miles or 4 years from the first in-service date. So you think 5 years of maintenance the Ford is cheaper than 1 year of the Bimmer? I don't think so.

@TheGeorgeLara

10 жыл бұрын

lol that's great... let's try 7 years

Where's the info coming from? I don't recall a direct cylinder head or oil temp readout on the 2011-2012's, and my 2013 does have an accurate cylinder head temp readout, which stays around 205 degrees while cruising and dips down into the 190's in the mid range, but it still doesn't have an accurate oil temp readout, it just reads "low" "normal" or "high", so does the oil pressure, which is probably the only thing I dislike about the entire car.

@390merc65 True your correct. It really depends on how well the car is maintained. There is a market for Bmw classics but the Muscle Car market strives mostly for the classic american dream feel.

Lots of sad desperate Europoors in here.

BMW = Overrated, Overpriced & Pretentious Mustang = Pure Badass

@onegaisti the e46 was a inline 6. dont mean to troll or anything, just thought it deserves some clarification.

@MDIVISIONRULES what unit are you giving?

The suspesion and frame didn't change, just the body. Center of gravity is exactly the same because it uses the exact same springs, rear end, shocks, control arms, and strut mounts package for package.

yes they provide comfort and wrap around you when taking hard turns which gives driver more confidence.

Totally understand you and have experience from the wild ride. It's when people start to compare cars that are not in the same division that things go wrong. I love muscle cars and actually think my next one will be a Mustang Roush stage 3). And I own a BMW now. A great car but I want that wild ride your talking about.

I had the opportunity to drive these back to back a couple of years ago, and all I can say is that the Mustang resonated with me more (I've had three previous generations in my ownership history, so it had a far more familiar feeling to me). That being said the M3 was an incredible experience, as the engine took a few minutes to get used to, kept shifting at 6000rpm, until I realized there was 2000rpm left! Both are amazing cars, and I would be very happy owning either.

@VQSeries

11 ай бұрын

I'll bet better reliability & lower cost of ownership made you appreciate going with the 'Stang.

The 2011 - 2013 Brembo Brake Package cars all have GT500 LCA's. The suspension is exactly the same for the 11 - 13 for BBP cars: GT500 LCA's (which aren't that great), unique shocks and spring, unique UCA, and strut mounts (which are garbage). Motortrend also was using a BBP car for this test.

Fun stuff. I love watching comparison videos no matter who wins. It's all about the racing that matters. No need to flame in the comments with the bench racing. Both cars are great.

@eltingville81 You do realize that numbers like those can be determined by many factors including temperature and altitude.

I'm curious as to which car had the better tires stock

@predatorshelby5780

9 жыл бұрын

BMW by far. Ive owned both and the 5.0 has shitty tires and gears from the factory. With that being said throw some tires and 4.10 gears and it changes everything.

What year mustang and M3 did you have?

@man36021 Engineering a better car? I guess you didn't see the vid of a 2011 mustang V6's driveshaft giving out at 130mph, and also, why is a 300HP car limited to only 118?

wonder if the new suspension on the mustang for 2015 will be as good as the camaro's zl1

The piston cooling jets were removed because they were causing windage/excess crankcase pressure, which makes it slightly harder for the crankshaft to turn and basically eliminates any cooling/lubrication advantage that Ford aimed for. Removing them allowed for slightly faster RPM capability, meaing better throttle response, especially after they made a few calibration changes. The cooling of the 5.0 is already badass either way. My 2013 runs cooler @ 4,000 RPM than it does @ 2,000 RPM.

what I'm confused about is why the steering wheels in both cars are exactly the same?

Anyone notice the Bmw badge on the Mustang GT's steering wheel @ 2:40.

@psychotropicalplant I wondered why too , because probably its naturally aspirated? the BMW had twin turbos...

anybody notice that the steering wheels are the same, when they show the mustang on the track, than they show the in side of the bimmer. like at 4:13 mustang is on the track, but you see the BMW steering wheel

@Sicarious95 amazingly put

@DeAdiSSu3 I never said that pushrods cant handle 500bhp, power not depends about engine design, only about displacement, and technology putted in it.

yea i know wish we got anyone of the euro specs, any gen, but the e46 gen was closest to euspec

04 svt, which ones urs ? videos ?

@Jimmy Sandison you can find some for around 20-25k w/around 30-50k on it. So it just depends on what you prefer to get. If i had 20k to put down, i would get the M3 hands down, but the sedan instead. And yes! I have been in both cars (but not the M3 coupe) and the quality of the M3 is what makes it a big difference from the mustang. In my opinion, the one thing that the mustang has over the M3 is that heavenly sound it makes.

@2013FiveOh

10 жыл бұрын

tracyis300 Why do you feel the quality of the M3 is better? Mechanically, both of the Coyote 5.0's i've owned have been beaten, repeatedly, and taken it in stride. The engine can see 500 horsepower with the basic bolt-ons and tuning, the MT82 (which recieved alot of whining for its "notchiness") I find to be a great transmission (especially the linkage), and obviously the live rear axle can handle all the drag strip launches you can throw at it. Probably the most durable performance car i've ever owned.

@THEACDC1995 the 2013 Cobra Jet has a s/c 5.0L and the GT500 has a s/c 5.8L

@stoner steve so has audi and porsche whats your point? getrag doesnt just make one model of transmission.

When is the new M3 GTR coming out?

I just noticed this right now (seen the video more than a couple of times), but at 1:50 I see a green with envy Challenger!

@NeoTranshuman this test is fair considering they only incorporated performance. the m3's extra cost is in more technoology and features.

Does the M3 GTS is built by BMW or is it a tuner car? Boss 302s come straight from the Ford factory for around 41K-43K. Ford also have from the factory the 662hp Shelby GT 500 for about 62K.

This 2011 GT wasn't hookin out of the hole like the 1968 GT 500 that I test drove in my video run....seems like they could engineer out some of that wheel hop, maybe it's a sacrifice for havin the big performance tires.....I'm sure it's a fun car to accelerate in, but, not nearly as fun to drive or as enjoyable to look at goin down the road as this 68 GT 500, in my humble opinion! Thanks for the video comparison.

@FlUdDeStRoYeR94 Do you really think that the extra $25k is related to just engine output?

@acs4llc I know several people who previously placed orders on E92 M3s and there was roughly a 12 month waiting list.

My car, an 07 mustang gt, has all the comfort options I would ever want and if you do a comparison on each car's features they both pretty much get the same things. The interior might be a little better, but it's the ride that matters. All this goes into the chassis and those intangible items are probably the extra composite technologies used to help it handle while maintaining a luxurious ride. Without them, I imagine the bmw would be far less popular and much slower around a track.

@TheAlienAssassin As someone who owns an e24 M6, i can tell you that newer bmws do keep their value, but for a classic bmw to keep value, it needs to be absolutely pristine. The only classics you see going over $20,000, for example, are the early M3s with less than 30,000 miles. 60s mustang fastbacks go for over twice that all the time.

Got mine here in TX. right under 30K miles for about the same price. I love the power & the CA special interior with the carbon print dash & seats. Take it easy on those poor tires. I'm interested to see how long they last.

Funny how a Mustang with its Solid Rear Axle has theoretically the same if not more lateral grip than the M3. I'd still have an M3 though, that screaming V8 is addicting.

oh ya and motor trend please do the boss 302 and the m3 gts

I'm not just talking about the brembo package, i'm talking about the 2013, and how its better in almost every way than the 2011-2012, and how these changes have affected their performance vs. the m3. Better aerodynamics, heat vents to help keep the temp in the engine bay down, and you might not be able to really feel the "8 hp" up top, but I feel a pretty big difference in throttle response compared to my previous 5.0, they definately recalibrated.

nice i wish i could afford the svt but i could only get the regular gt. 2014 gt/cs no vids yet but one day

@timballena not in america my friend...

A solid rear axel did wonders

@DownhillzRB Yes, but right now it's 4.0L vs 5.0L, which is even less fair for testing.

Agree 100%

@helloterran so your saying that the new boss 302 LS is faster than an audi r8 around LS? lets see it says the boss 302 LS is almost 4 seconds quicker than the gt500 around LS yet the gt500 at VIR is almost 5 seconds quicker than the GT. now the m3 at VIR is 2 seconds quicker than the gt500 and the R8 is a second quicker than the m3.

i've got a 2012 5.0 and i love it and my friend just bought the m3 lmao its awesome both cars are great

I just came from a 2007 350z which of course has independent rear suspension. I bought a 2013 Mustang GT. They handle very similarly. I would never have believed how well you could make a car with a live rear axle handle until I drove it. Now imagine the Boss 302, which shits all over the M3 on the track. All that with a wagon axle. I guess it's time to rethink this subject.

Black 2011 5.0 myself in sept. 26500 miles and $24850 and they put new tires on it at Cook whitehead ford in panama city. Loving this car, get compliments all the time. You?

@whysogrim Does it?? Sure seems like it ain't paying off if that is the case..

I agree its more expensive but resale value or the residual is much higher on the M3 in return, so at the end of the day its what car you prefer to drive.

How come this video doesn't compare the the flagship BOSS 302 against the flagship M3?? HMM.... I WONDER WHY?

@One_Rifle

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Cause thats a 2011 Mustang, the Boss 302 wasn't released until the 2012 models came out.

@torogami2 What "technoology"? The M3 has more adjustments to fool with but does any of it make it faster??? What you think is 'adding' performance is actually limiting it until you're ready to use it. I mean for safety reasons I guess? More likely to insure you'll be back to the service dept when it goes astray. BTW the M3's obsolete DVD-ROM Nav takes forever to search & lacks a user friendly touch screen.

well idk where you live but here in NJ/USA the mustang GT with the track pack (14 inch vented brembos and 11.8 rear, summer tires, engine cooler, torsen diff, 3.73 gears, and ungraded radiator.) costs only $33,600. thats not including tax of course.

I ask myself which year-model you owned. Ride and seat comfort is way better in my '12 GT/CS than in my friends '11 E92 M3. Especially on long trips. The stereo? 500 watts and the quality is way enough for me. Interior materials in the GT? They're more than okay (maybe not as good as in the M3). I live in the Swiss Alps and I drove both the M3 and the GT over Alpine passes - the M3 is that stiff than it can be a real diva on bumpy roads. The GT is just a little softer, which makes it much safer.

@NoUtubeDegree type in 2011 mustang transmission problem. the mustang can keep up with an m3 but at the cost of reliability and build quality which i would never sacrifice for a cheaper price tag.