Brilliant video. My husband's grandfather, Hugh Rose, was chief draughtsman on the Slug, and my husband was totally unaware of the extent of the footage of the vehicle.

@ScarfAndGoggles

2 жыл бұрын

So glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for taking the time to post about your connection to the car.

@nickjervis8123

2 жыл бұрын

I am rebuilding a Lea Francis with an engine designed by Hugh Rose. I pass his house in Wolverhampton every day.

@MikeY-nh2we

2 жыл бұрын

That's so cool to be connected to this historic machine

@1fnjo790

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, What kind of drafts does a draughtsman chiefly drink?☺

@MrTheHillfolk

2 жыл бұрын

@@1fnjo790 How many drafts can a draughtsman chuck if a draughtsman could chuck drafts ? 😃 Cunning stunt. Say that ten times fast 😹

They were a different breed back then, especially considering this was achieved 100 years ago.

Weighing in at around 4 tons, makes my motorhome feel like an Ariel Atom! Great video, thank you x

@kenyonpapen2608

2 жыл бұрын

What motorhome weighs 4 tons my truck weighs more than that

I love your videos, no annoying music, clear narration and well written and researched, many thanks.. It would be great if you could do some LSR of motorcycles from the early and classic era.. Eric Fernihough immediately springs to mind..

I live in Daytona Beach and love the history of racing on the beach. The City developed a history of speed path with engraved granite panels inset into the boardwalk covering 1903 to 1959. Daytona also named a street for Seagrave.

I heard a story that the car was initially unstable at high speed and this disappeared when the rear end was modified from having a flat floor to giving it an upswept profile, although this was actually done in order to make it easier to unload down a ramp from its trailer. Supposedly no-one realised at the time but they had accidently given the car a crude diffuser which created some ground effect and stabilised the car. I'd love to know if this is true or just an urban myth.

@ScarfAndGoggles

2 жыл бұрын

Wow - I didn’t turn up any reference to that in my research, but the car was apparently a handful in the wind on the beach. Great story if that really was the accidental birth of the rear diffuser!

@chrisvig123

2 жыл бұрын

Bernoulli’s principal 😀

@paoloviti6156

2 жыл бұрын

That is a very interesting story to hear but I don't think this is just an urban myth because the "Mystery" was initially very unstable then it seems to disappear this issue....

@colinstables

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisvig123 o

@alexbaxter9512

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisvig123 pardon me being a grammar nazi, it's spelt 'principle'

I never tire of watching or reading of the wheel driven land speed vehicles. Cobb’s Napier Railton endurance racer (not particularly lauded as a land speed mile car) with its W12 engine, which has been restored to unbelievably high standards and regularly runs at it’s Brooklands home, albeit purely to show it off and to run the engine. It sounds superb and I can only imagine what those multi-engines cars sound like.

Thank you for another great piece of LSR history. 11:35 This picture really emphasizes where automotive technology was at that time.

It's quite incredible how far auto engineering has come since this car was built. A few days ago Harry Metcalf ( youtube channel "Harry's Garage' ) popped over to Germany and on a derestricted part of an autobahn took his Jaguar Project 8 to 200mph, just for fun and to prove the car could actually do it.

It is hard to believe that this vehicle was built with spare parts and sent to Daytona with hardly any help. Different times with very determined people👍🇬🇧💪

@redneckswitwheels

2 жыл бұрын

Back when MEN were MEN.... Not what we have today

@jacobvanausdeln1696

2 жыл бұрын

Tf are you talking about? Babbling bs politics into something amazing. There are men and women out there setting records and dying for their passions everyday.

@paoloviti6156

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobvanausdeln1696 I wasn't babbling about politics, I was just thinking about the people that assembled the "Mystery" with spare parts with hardly any financial help from the investors and the pilot with his own money had shipped this magnificent machine and the mechanics to USA....

@paoloviti6156

2 жыл бұрын

@@redneckswitwheels exactly 👍👍

@Arcticun

2 жыл бұрын

@@paoloviti6156 There are still plenty of situations like that even today in nearly every facet of amateur motorsport.

Excellent video as always S&G. I can't imagine what Segrave must've felt hauling that tank across the sand at 200 mph.

@JGuraan

2 жыл бұрын

The craziest part to me was him experiencing a total brake failure at 200mph, managing to survive, and then just going, "Alright, lets change the brakes and do the run with a tailwind!"

@simoncullum5019

2 жыл бұрын

I remember when the first 500 GP motorbike hit 200mph , when asked what 200mph felt like the rider said very similar to 199mph

Thanks for covering this part of the Land Speed Story. It's ironic that Segrave's fame came from making it look easy. Campbell's genius was to make it look hard. I'm still trying to locate a reputed cartoon from the 1930s, when Campbell was shooting for 300mph which depicted an aged Campbell climing out of a motorized bathchair into a rocket powered version of Bluebird with a caption indicating he was aiming for a target in the low five hundred MPH range.

doing the math out, 1 gallon every minute on those engines is 0.417 lb/hp*h, which is actually pretty good fuel efficiency for those engines. Means they could have eeked out more power with some tuning of the carbs.

@bmw_fantopdrives5501

2 жыл бұрын

Aircraft engines kind of needed to be fuel efficent

@CreeperOnYourHouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@bmw_fantopdrives5501 it's a different story when we're talking about ww1 aero engine, operating on low compression with no forced induction, thus why I'm impressed.

I had a 65 Sunbeam Alpine with 18,00 miles in 1970 ! Great little car

@chuckthebull

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 1962 sunbeam alpine,,was my dream car and I have had it for over 15 years now, and do all my own work including retrofitting a Toyota 5 speed W58 trans with a 65 rear end. so I can cruise highway speeds easly. love my sunbeam.

I well remember my first visit to Beaulieu, as a seven-year-old. I set eyes on this beautiful, beautiful machine - then on Bluebird, and the Golden Arrow - and my lifelong love affair with classic cars, and all things related to this particular era of racing, began.

8:49 What a bad ass photo!

Great video, thanks. A small correction: where you say that a "frontal area.... of 18.7 square feet resulted in a drag coefficient of 0.34 making the car very slippery" this should be "a frontal area of 18.7 square feet (1.75 m^2) and a drag coefficient of 0.34 combined to make the car very slippery". Drag coefficient, Cd, is dimensionless, it has to do with shape not size. As an example, the drag coefficient of an object shaped like a brick is around 1, no matter whether it is an actual brick or a large box with the same proportions as a brick (like a Land Rover). Put another way, the drag coefficient of an accurate scale model of the Sunbeam would also be 0.34. To get the aerodynamic drag on a vehicle we use CdA, the product of drag coefficient and frontal area. The CdA of the Sunbeam would be 0.59 m^2. You are right that's good by modern standards, a Tesla model S has a CdA of about 0.56 m^2 The aerodynamic drag is given by CdA x air density x air speed squared / 2. Another way to think of it is that the area x air density x speed gives the mass flow rate of air into the vehicle. Mass flow x speed x Cd/2 gives drag. The divide by 2 bit has to do with stagnation flow but the joke is that it's there just so a brick has a Cd of 1.

@ScarfAndGoggles

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for explaining that to me - it’ll be very useful in some of the videos I’ve got planned for next year! Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for commenting.

@lyrebirdcyclesmarkkelly9874

2 жыл бұрын

@@ScarfAndGoggles Cool, I've just subscribed, also loved the video on the Segrave's Golden Arrow. To illustrate the points I made above: that car had a higher drag coefficient than the Sunbeam (0.46) but a much smaller frontal area ( about 1.1 m^2) giving a CdA of about 0.5 which is lower than the Sunbeam but not by enough for it to reach 400 kmh.

@darrelboles3240

2 жыл бұрын

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@andyharman3022

Жыл бұрын

The mathematical term Cd x A is called "drag area" by automotive engineers. Car & Driver magazine lists drag area for all the cars that they test.

Longtime subscriber. Love your content!!! You Brits build beautiful machinery. Most times they work, sometimes they don't. But they are always Beautiful elegant things.

I've read about these speed record battles for years. Your videos are a real treat. Really love seeing this old footage that you have pulled together.

Mr S&F. Found your channel yesterday and I adore it. This is the type of good content we used to get on the US channel Speedvision back in the late 90s. Keep up the great work.

@ScarfAndGoggles

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

Skidded for 400 yards and didn't panic.Outstanding.

@ToreDL87

2 жыл бұрын

And didnt lift until the very end! These guys had more than just many lose screws, they had skill!

That was a great story and wonderful video, I love the original footage and photos. It's sad and somewhat ironic twist that Seagrave met an untimely end and had a sea grave

We tend to take the capabilities of our modern technology for granted, until we see stories like this. Seeing that it took nearly 1,000 hp to propel a car to 200mph back then makes me appreciate the fact that my sports car is capable of reaching 175mph on the 332hp generated by my engine and that it can be a docile and dependable daily driver.

@felixthecat3n2

2 жыл бұрын

What do you drive Jim?

@videomaniac108

2 жыл бұрын

@@felixthecat3n2 I have a 2019 Nissan 370Z 6MT with the sport package. The car is limited to 155 mph via the ECU in the US market, per DOT import requirements. I saw an interior video of the dash of a 2014 370Z automatic running flat out on the Autobahn, where the speed maxed out to about 280 kph(~175 mph). This was on KZread and you can probably find it if you search. I had a Porsche 944s years ago and I was able to max it out on the highway at about 147 or 148 mph. This was with a 2.5 liter engine that was putting out between 190 to 200 crank hp, the car being surprisingly stable and easy to control. I think that both these cars benefitted from good aerodynamic design to lower drag and reduce unwanted lift at high speeds. I've never driven my Z anywhere near that speed nor do I ever plan to, especially given the poor quality of roads in America today.

@felixthecat3n2

2 жыл бұрын

@@videomaniac108 Thank you Jim! I own a Chrysler Crossfire which apparently can do 155mph. The highest speed I've ever done is 120mph though..

@videomaniac108

2 жыл бұрын

@@felixthecat3n2 I remember seeing a Crossfire years ago snd thinking that I'd like to have one.

Like the motorfreak i am i try to imagine the two V12 engines in the car breathing and roaring for full speed all delivered to a drive chain to the early days flintstone wheels. Well, lets hope it works out to the end of the track. 😄

Many thanks forthe video. 3:05 To be mildly pedantic: total aero drag depends on frontal area x drag coefficient (which is per unit of frontal area). Keeping them both low matters.

Love your writing. Fantastic video as always!

I owned a 1962 Sunbeam Alpine 40 some odd years ago. I thought it very old then! It suffered from the typical things a older British sports car do like rust and worn out bearings and electrical issues. I kept her running for a few years it gave me a life time love of cars and small sports cars. So when ever I see SUNBEAM I look and this popped up and as I watch your great documentary I wondered if it was the same company and indeed it was! So cool that my car shared a history with this one. Wonderful to watch. Thank you.

@ScarfAndGoggles

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for getting in touch - so glad you enjoyed the story of Segrave and the Sunbeam 1000hp. There’s also a video on my channel about the Sunbeam Silver Bullet that you might enjoy…

This is absolutely among my favourite channels. The raw courage is not lost on me; having read Campbell Snr's own accounts of his exploits, written in an understated fashion - these doings beggar belief. Thanks for uploading; hope you and yours are happy and well.

Absolutely superb presentation what a golden age this era was .

@ToreDL87

2 жыл бұрын

Wish we had it back in legal forms, we need a bit of the risks and daring to captivate our imaginations again!

That is remarkable That must have been one hell of a thrilling ride to say it mildly wow

This car was built in my hometown. The original factory still stands to this day. It's now a set of apartments but they kept the original brickwork. The exterior is the exact same

An epic machine! Great vid as always 👍

I love all these land and water speed record breaker heroes, people like these make our lives that much more exciting, what brave human beings, thankyou,

You remarked on how few miles the 1000 HP Sunbeam had done. Well the Golden Arrow did only 12.74 miles in all.

Another fantastic documentary, congrats !

Wow it seems heavy, It's crazy to think of the tire technology then and going that fast.

@stuartd9741

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair the car? Was going in a straight line . So not relative lateral movement required in the tyres. But yes still an incredible achievement.

Man I love your content! Great video as always

Great production as always! Love your narrations!

Very good history of brave men, good engineering, and doing something never done before.

Thanks for another superbly-researched and presented story.

Excellent video as always , thanks .

Love the technical content, not just pictures, super cool vid.

For those interested. The re-commissioning of the Sunbeam 1000hp is well under way at the National Motor Museum, Beaulieu. You can see the car being worked on in the main public hall. When completed the car is heading to the USA for a Museum tour finishing at Daytona Beach 29th March 2027.

I enjoyed that very much, as always. 😊

Thank you! Very interesting and well edited video!

@tomkent4656

2 жыл бұрын

And well narrated.

I like your style. Great channel. Exciting story.

Fantastic history lesson Thanks for sharing I’m only an hour from Daytona Wish I could time travel back to that illustrious day

@ScarfAndGoggles

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

The Sunbeam I had, an S7 and not really a Sunbeam but a BSA, had an achillies heel built in. The phosphor bronze item In the drive train. According to some authors this wore out within 1000 miles on the prototype, so in good British style they detuned the engine for the production version to make it last longer.....

Yes sir, thank you, love this historical stuff.

Well done, I enjoyed it and kept my full attention start to finish 👍

My uncle had a Sunbeam Tiger. Man that car was cool...

The Slug was amazing, but how about that Super Sentinel Rigid Six Wheeler? That thing looks pretty cool too.

So refreshing to find this quality! Well written, well researched, well edited, and bloody brilliant narrator with no trace of getting between you and the information. I knew the name for ever..but NOT this slice of history that really hammered them home as a classic British car maker. It all ended up as cute wee sports cars!

@ScarfAndGoggles

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Fantastic, those were the days, very interesting cant stop watching.

wonderful video, thank you very much!

Wow and I always thought the Sunbeam Tiger was the best

A fascinating video, thank you!

thank you so much. I love your videos

Very well-made and informative video.

thanks for the work. Good chanel.

Well, I found my new favorite channel.

An impressive car but that steam lorry it was perched on really stopped me in my tracks

Good little vid,very enjoyable. Thumbs up.

used sunbeam low mileage, title in hand. dont low ball me

Great stuff, thank you!

At the time of the LSR attempts the beach was regularly refereed to as Ormand Beach. Daytona and Deltona came later. Local people promoted the record attempts.

John Marston: cowboy, Bank robber, father, and bicycle shop owner.

@SeptemberSeventeenth

Жыл бұрын

Haha. John Marston was my great-great Grandfather so found it amusing when Red Dead came out.

Great video so sad that Malcolm Campbells 1935 Bluebird is in America.

Real history for real people! Thank you great job!!!

@ScarfAndGoggles

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

That was a really cool video about breaking the 200mph record

I've commented before, I'm an aircraft enthusiast first and foremost, but this channel never fails to knfitm and fascinate. Once again, thanks for the upload 👍

@michaelevans205

2 жыл бұрын

Oops. Possibly, it informs too!

@ScarfAndGoggles

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your kind words, glad you enjoyed it!

Outstanding!

This was a fascinating mini documentary. Definitely a sub from me

Thank goodness Segrave didn't crash and get a sea grave.

Check out the Sentinel steam wagon at 11:44

Awesome! well done!

Very well done. Daytona is a great beach !

Great content good narration many thanks subbed

@ScarfAndGoggles

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and welcome

the ultimate D.I.Y bild. love your videos thanks

Amazing to think that today's F1 1.6 L racing cars can clear 200 mph at nearly every race track they go to with ease? Incredible how things have moved on. Incidentally my grandfather worked at Sunbeam as a Tinsmith and myself worked in the same building for a different company many years after Sunbeam left Wolverhampton.

Thanks again :)

as always , very interesting

I love that it was transported to London on a steam lorry.

Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

Sunbeam made very fast cars in the early 1900s, we had one compete in our London to Brighton Down Under a couple of years ago, a wealthy graizer here in South Australia imported it in to use between his cattle stations as his current car was not fast enough!! Was the fastest production car available at that time in the Uk.A sports version , would do 80 MPH, currant owner said it ,now fully restored would still go just as fast, but added he hasent been game to try it out. Cheers Mal in au.

Love your videos…fantastic channel…as an ozzy would it be possible to do a video on Rosco Mcglashans’ Aussie Invader’s attempt on the LSR…cheers

New sub' here...love the content!

A small point. Most of the run was in Ormond Beach, just north of, and contiguous with, Daytona Beach. Ormond Beach is rightly known as the birthplace of speed.

Ironic that the land-speed record holder named 'Seagrave' ultimately found his grave on the water attempting boat speed records. kinda freaky

wonderful

Fantastic story,

Could you imagine how they would respond to a modern Top Fuel Dragster back in 1927?!

In the late 20s it took this absolute massive beast to break 900hp. Now less than 100 years later we have engines that can break 1000hp with minimal effort and common mass produced 4 cylinders making over 200hp. I bet electric car technology will become amazing before we even go another 100 years

Seagraves watching the test, said afterwards, I just stood there and crapped my trousers.

Bravest of brave to do this in the 1920’s man I can’t even imagine stirring into the surf too slow down because the brakes weren’t working at 200 MPH

Brave man and a time of innovation and positive attitude. Current British racing attempts struggle to get funding and public interest sadly.

Thanks for this very informative video. I call my fast car "Turbo Slug", but I had no idea that I had accidently "copied" off this famous Sunbeam! I am not worthy🧐😞

Those days of early speed records are just fascinating to me so many people chasing records, using plane engines in these cars, just wild stuff. These guys must have been like superheroes to kids of the day

@andyharman3022

2 жыл бұрын

Kids of the day? I dreamed about setting a land speed record with an Allison engine in a Bonneville streamliner when I was a kid in the 1970's.

I didn't even knew it was red before watching that video!

Hard to imagine a soft sand beach as a place to run a world record car.