Experimenting with sulfur free muzzleloading propellant
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@calvingreene90 Жыл бұрын
Pulling out a chemistry book to find alternates for sulphur like iron oxide is probably more practical than looking for a volcano.
@_Emerald_Eye_
4 ай бұрын
Have you tried the iron oxide? Does it perform well?
@calvingreene90
4 ай бұрын
@@_Emerald_Eye_ I've only seen it on Cody's lab.
@ralfvk.4571
4 ай бұрын
That is interesting, indeed. I guess, there wouldn't be something better, than pure sulfur, but maybe several components, to replace it, that have a catalytic effect - maybe also some sulfates, so that the speed will increase significantly, at least. Nitrate + 30% coal will still give a powder, better than nothing, like we have seen, but it's very slow.
@dpasek1
2 ай бұрын
I'm trying 1% of NaFeEDTA to provide a trace of ferric iron as a catalyst. I add an extra 1.1% of KNO3 to oxidize the EDTA. I don't have any comparison data yet.
@tafdiz
3 күн бұрын
@@calvingreene90 have you noticed that guy in the video looks like cody? his gestures, way he talks and looks..
@HobbiesHobo2 жыл бұрын
Being able to cut your ingredients down by a third is a big deal, it's obviously functional, sounds to me like it should be considered the "BP Basic" recipe and adding sulfur is more like "BP Deluxe" for added performance. I'm not even a novice when it comes to BP though, haha, Mike.
@jeremiahembs5343 Жыл бұрын
Sulphur not only lowers the ignition temperature, but it also STABILIZES THE BURN RATE. That's in most of the literature. That's why you are getting variations in velocity without it. Having it throughout the mixture means you have an even burning fuel to carry that flame all the way through the powder. Otherwise the burning wanes and you don't have that predictable exothermic reaction you want. Using a magnum primer can help overcome the problem, but ultimately having sulphur in the powder is the right way to go.
@SR-gs8zo
4 ай бұрын
exactly! there is tons of online info out there...completely legal and free and good explanations...and WARNINGS...BCS A LOT OF PEOPLE BLOWD TJEMSELVES AND BYSTANDERS UP MIXING...
@alessandrotozzi92462 жыл бұрын
From my experience I have found that having good homemade charcoal from good wood such as willow, poplar, birch or alder buckthorn is essential as a starting point for a good black powder. The next step is to micronize the charcoal below 80 micrometers before mixing it with the other ingredients. The final mixing in a ball mill is also an important aspect to give speed and regularity to the combustion.
@cowstable2 ай бұрын
The sulfur-containing BP in the pan seems to create more and denser smoke than the sulfur-free BP main charge! Definitely worth consideration for a percussion lock or cartridge gun.
@missingthe80s582 жыл бұрын
Contrary to popular myth and it will be mentioned, it is still corrosive.
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Most definitely
@awsomedude9111
10 ай бұрын
I guess potassium is under the sodium / salt corrosive element
@mikeclement5383
6 ай бұрын
It's hydrophilic. Water promotes oxidation. The actual elemental powder is not corrosive.
@Godwh1sperer Жыл бұрын
In an apocalypse mad max style, these two ingredients are locally available almost wherever you are. The third however would require a nearby volcano. A beautiful video with love for the hobby.
@abluebird123
Жыл бұрын
Volcano or gardening store that hasn’t been fully ransacked
@Samonie67
4 ай бұрын
whilst pure natural sulfur isn't found outside of vulcanoes and hotsprings you could find certain mineral deposits like iron sulfide in the ground, process those with a furnace and some heat and seperate the iron from the sulfur though it'd require a lot more work
@sturmunddrang1132
4 ай бұрын
I worked in the oilsands for some time. All I can think about is watching them pour liquid Sulphur into forms and create pyramids out of it that covered thousands of square yards and were built up 50 feet or more. I remember they were hoping to make fertilizer out of it at one point but the purity didn't meet standards. I don't know the entire process, but there are definitely other ways of getting Sulphur than spelunking a volcano
@joelbuchannan36575 ай бұрын
Ever read "Blood Meridian" by Cormac McCarthy? He revisits the entire powder making process, in the Sonora desert, in 1852. It involves climbing into Volcanos and gathering guano, leaching it in creeks and making the final batch, all while being pursued by the Gallegos Apache's. Good stuff bubba.
@americanman4746 Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up...I ordered ingredients off EBay and EBay red flagged my purchases..notifying the “government”. They had been casing my house and went to my wife’s job to interrogate her on my hobbies..etc. Then they questioned me on why I was ordering these ingredients. I have done nothing illegal. Long story short..if you need to acquire ingredients, buy them from a brick and mortar and you will not run into what I had to deal with.
@chopsddy32 жыл бұрын
The gap between the cylinder and barrel may have also been a factor compared to the enclosed system of the rifle along with the softness of the powder. The slight pressure release may have slowed the ignition time a milli second. Good stuff Jake. You da man.👍 Don’t singe your eyebrows in the local Vesuvius. Even at the comparatively pedestrian speed of that powder in the rifle, it will put meat on the table within a reasonable range. Airguns are killing deer at a hundred yards now with less velocity. It may work for the in flight portion of holiday rockets after the lift stage leaving a nice smoky trail.
@joearledge12 жыл бұрын
Love your videos bud!! Keep em coming! I'm excited to hear about your latest developments in optimizing your homemade BP!
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@got2kittys Жыл бұрын
Garden sulfur is available by the pound, and works fine in bp.
@Darth_Boons6 ай бұрын
I was really having a horrible couple days and I appreciate you making these videos it's something that helps more than you know ❤
@Everythingblackpowder
6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it
@WilsonPendarvis-tn3wm
5 ай бұрын
I’m sure your spirits were down. Please don’t be depressed.
@WilsonPendarvis-tn3wm
5 ай бұрын
I’m sure your spirits were down. Please don’t be depressed.
@WilsonPendarvis-tn3wm
5 ай бұрын
I’m sure your spirits were down. Please don’t be depressed.
@35southkiwi16 Жыл бұрын
Interesting experient. Thanks for taking the time to conduct and present it
@TUCOtheratt Жыл бұрын
Interesting experiment and video. So apparently there was no problem with ignition. I am surprised.
@Everythingblackpowder
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@bobbyfurr87802 жыл бұрын
1st video of yours I have seen. I subscribed. Thanks for the information. Look forward to seeing more videos of yours.
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kapisonasetalonas52572 жыл бұрын
I made black powder with sugar because the barrel rusts out of sulfur. It burns quickly but needs three times the amount to make a good shot.
@tomassosaoconnor
5 ай бұрын
Add some iron oxide to it. Between 0.5 and 2%. It speeds up the reaction dramatically. I've done that in rockets
@NinjaChemistChannel
2 ай бұрын
Try to cook potassium nitrate and sugar with red or yellow iron oxide. I have a video how to make it properly. It called rocket candy(available through playlist "all videos"). It burns very fast, however i didnt test it in firearms, only in rockets.
@horseteeth61392 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just recently found your channel. I've been shooting black since I was a kid, thought I knew pretty much what there was to know about it. I subscribed today because every video of yours, that I've watched, gaave me something to think about. Thank you
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it
@snappers_antique_firearms2 жыл бұрын
Once again great content. I haven't done any real blackpowder historical research. But it sounds like a very interesting topic. Plus thanks.. i never corned my home made powder until i found your channel. and wow it really made my powder perform much better
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, it’s the only way to fly
@OhnoAnt
Жыл бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder what differences does it make having corned blackpowder compared to just powdered blackpowder?
@goodmaro
6 ай бұрын
@@OhnoAnt One difference is that corned grains pack in such a way as to provide space for fire to flash between them, while plain mill dust can compress to a degree that precludes that.
@tristindalton42384 ай бұрын
Thank you for your videos. perfectly informational & you break it down, so a guy that doesn't know jack about black powder like myself can understand. also, that is such a beautiful rifle.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@michaelhargrove14662 жыл бұрын
It's a good thing sulfer is very easy to obtain now or my really big bores would not function very well . I make my powder and add just a little extra sulfer.. The big bores that I build seem to love it .I build very large 7 Guage rifles and 11 Guage rifles . That's 7\8jths and 3\4 bores ,they prefer sulfer .As always very good comparison video .I had never actually tested the powder over Chrono .keep up the good work
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@WannabeWoodsman Жыл бұрын
Black powder is quickly becoming my favorite, especially as an Early America history enthusiast
@dpasek12 ай бұрын
Two things about sulfur that I think are relevant: When sulfur burns, it produces acid, SO2. This will help catalyze the decomposition of the nitrate. When KNO3 thermally decomposes, it produces alkali, K2O or K2CO3 (potash) This will be neutralized by the SO2 to produce a salt, K2SO3. Without the sulfur, you get a strongly alkaline ash in the fouling.
@r.awilliams98152 жыл бұрын
You lose energy when you remove the sulfur, so to replace that lost energy you will need to add another fuel, a catalyst, or a more powerful oxidizer. I can tell you that some commercial BP substitutes use potassium perchlorate in their formula, how much is a trade secret of course, but that gives you a place to start. Edit: Deleted the section on a certain formula, since it implied that it might be useful in a firearm. It's not, and would probably result in a burst barrel if tried. Don't Do It!
@Godwh1sperer
Жыл бұрын
I would sincerely recommend keeping it to nitrat as perc opens up an incredible can of worms requiring similar but different expertise as the result is intended to go off in your hands instead of at 50 ft. and tube, we are ofcourse referring to cracker barrel and having barrels of laughs here.
@forrest5050
Жыл бұрын
potassium perchlorate is one of the ingredients in modern primers. it is as one you tuber commented a "angry chemical" do not think it should have been mentioned as a black powder additive.or guess you could throw the gun at em as a hand grenade lol
@Godwh1sperer
Жыл бұрын
@@forrest5050 you're confusing potassium perchlorate (that is in pyrodex) with potassium chlorate (the angry primer compound) still, lets not go there, like you say.
@gunsnwater2668 Жыл бұрын
I recall reading (probably hatchers notebook or foxfire) that sulfur turns to gas, charcoal burns, saltpeter adds oxygen so charcoal burns hotter and the sulfur converts to gas upping the pressure.
@FlytyingwithdenisАй бұрын
Discovered your site, I love it, I like the simple explanations without going scientifically crazy, I may just give it a go
@Everythingblackpowder
Ай бұрын
Glad to hear it
@Qwertypp102 жыл бұрын
Sulfur also causes that during reaction of burning more CO2 gas is released because Instead of forming carbonate salts, sulfates are formed, so greater volume of gas is created.
@TheStraycat74 Жыл бұрын
I make combustible paper cartridges for my 1858. I also have a Taylor's and Company 6-Shot 45Colt conversion cylinder for it... Now I'm seriously considering making my own powder, a lot of work, but I wouldn't have to worry about not being able to get Pyrodex-P for my pistol
@barend48032 жыл бұрын
Love this testing. Saves me lots of trouble.
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help
@cleophusA2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very informative and entertaining. My Grandfather used to make his own black powder back in the '40's when he said "store bought powder" started to get really hard to come by around here, (the back woods of north Alabama), and Sulphur was the same, so used cane sugar as a substitute. Have you ever heard of this? Also, he said that it made a much harder fouling than using Sulphur, and you had to lube well, (tallow and wax), to keep the fouling soft and wipe after every 3 or 4 rounds. Anyway, great video and I look forward to the next one.
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting. I haven’t heard of that.
@308dad8
2 жыл бұрын
I know there are some improvised propellants that employ sugar
@InsanoBinLooney
2 жыл бұрын
Powdered rust (iron oxide) can also be used instead of sulphur
@sevensfist_com
2 жыл бұрын
@@InsanoBinLooney Use The tips of those huge BBQ 'safety' matches. Back of spoon to crush off head, side cutters to remove remainder of the acquired tips & you can use the wooden sticks to make the carcoal, while you have a 55 gallon drum with urine soaked compost to later harvest the saltpetre! Make sure they!re safety matches only, or when making the puck 'first strike POW'!👊😂👍
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine
2 жыл бұрын
@@308dad8 Potassium Chlorate + Sugar can make a crude propellant, as I understand.
@sbfguy779315 күн бұрын
Congrats on 100k!!!
@Everythingblackpowder
14 күн бұрын
Thank you
@mattwhite90462 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff. Way better than I would have expected. For whatever reason, my more recent batches with ERC shavings, milled for 18-24 hours & granulated, come out about as well as your sulphur-less compressed powder -- needing about 70-80% more powder by volume to achieve the same velocity & weight. As you pointed out, fine for muzzleloaders. But not ideal.
@308dad8
2 жыл бұрын
Try poplar or willow charcoal?
@7come11two Жыл бұрын
Beautiful rifle. I love it.
@ixb12 жыл бұрын
30% coal is too much. Optimal range for best performance is 16-20% .But thanks for this experiment.
@poordady Жыл бұрын
still lmpressive! checkout your power come pared to big bore air guns for hunting, at least you can still hunt even the pistol energy better then you think in fpe keep shooting
@toddknecht210611 ай бұрын
Apparently corned granules being harder allow for more oxygen in the chamber😊 Thanks for the Videos btw!
@blackpowderandbibles2 жыл бұрын
The way that loading lever kept dropping you would think you were shooting a Walker.
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the latch is broken
@feraltweed6 ай бұрын
I made surfer less black powder to shoot in my homemade pole and hand cannons. I’m sure in the early days of black powder firearms people shot whatever they could to make the gun work. Also whiteout a lock to detonate the charge the slower burning powder allowed more time to aim after setting the priming charge on fire
@MemorialRifleRange2 жыл бұрын
Thank -you!
@atvheads4 ай бұрын
The impact energy increases by square to, so doubling the velocity from say 500 ft/ s to 1000 increases the impact energy four times. So it is a huge difference.
@indridcold84334 ай бұрын
I found out from a yank that was corresponding with me online that my American brothers and sisters have had recent restrictions put on black powder over there. They are systematically losing all the freedoms they have traditionally celebrated. Soon, they will have none at all. I heard their last elections were blotched, as well, by design. I feel for my American brothers and sisters.
@Ohmy19562 жыл бұрын
Love your ending
@victortuten43992 жыл бұрын
Great video! In my next batch I may grind up some fatwood and add it instead of sulphur. Just to see how it works.
@kenmartin9106 Жыл бұрын
Just wouldn't smell the same without sulfur
@torivibing9311 Жыл бұрын
great video! i wonder how well sulfer-free black powder would work in a modern semi auto gun, i know that standard black powder cycles any pistol caliber pretty reliably but idk about sulferless, even if it does cycle though the power would probably be too little to actually be worth it
@derekchecketts84615 ай бұрын
Dang it man, just found your channel. I’m now going to have to get some black powder replica guns.
@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks.
@Michael-rg7mx2 жыл бұрын
I've seen small mountains of Sulphur being piled outside to be loaded on ships. Evidently it is common near Vancouver Canada.
@zlaya7714 ай бұрын
Videos are perfect! I wander if you ever try to make black powder with fig charcoal? Fig is soft tree and grow very fast so... I think your channel is best place for this question.
@leithmark959 Жыл бұрын
Try adding a little sugar. Potassium nitrate and sugar is model rocket fuel.... it might help bind it too.
@jeffreyyoung4104 Жыл бұрын
I believe the sulfur free powder and pellets sold today may have to revert to using it again, as I also see the same reduced velocities in my rifle with it. Which is possibly why they recommend more powder than the max charge of black powder the firearm manufacturers recommend.
@SteveandSusiesHomestead2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting . Thanks
@1kreature5 ай бұрын
You didn't comment on the fouling in the video? The videos using toilet paper carbon was interesting for the differences in fouling and I wonder how the lack of sulfur effected this? The lack of the added gasses from the sulfur sure made for less oomph!
@Everythingblackpowder
5 ай бұрын
The sulfur free powder was very clean
@glenmcgill95632 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks. Oi the Ozarks, back in the (very) early days, the people made a form of 'rock candy' from maple syrup (sugar), potassium nitrate and iron oxide. Made a passable 'black' powder when none was to be had. My question: Will the addition of iron oxide to the standard 3 part mix (normal BP) have any effect?
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had several people ask me about iron oxide. I’ll have to look into it
@Yaivenov Жыл бұрын
Those are some sedate velocities from the revolver. Slowest I've ever loaded was 650fps (.452" 230 gr LRN) to mimic a .455 webley loading.
@Everythingblackpowder
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Pretty disappointing
@bobboyer9440 Жыл бұрын
Always instructional.
@Tammy-un3ql2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video👍👍👍👍
@notamouse56305 ай бұрын
I think sulfur free needs to be finer grained, that would up the burn rate and pressure.
@SteveAubrey17626 ай бұрын
Oh my God you almost made me crash my car I was listening to your video talking about finding you a volcano to climb up and that was awesome
@Leonards_life5 ай бұрын
Other than possible soot left behind in guns. I have made firecrackers using homemade black powder. In place of the sulfer I have use specofocally Coffee Mate brand creamer. I also used fine beet powder with good results. The beet powder was a left over from a health food diet.
@sethmullins8346 Жыл бұрын
I think part of your performance issues may come from the ratios you have. I'm not 100% since it's been a while, but when I was looking at the medieval and civil war era sulfurless recipes they didn't just replace the sulfur with more charcoal, they actually changed the amount of nitrate too. It was a bit less than if you replaced the sulfur 1:1 by just adding more charcoal.
@ChicanoSteve Жыл бұрын
.... and that's how Hernán Cortéz woopped our arses in Mexico to become what it did till today, just a bunch of.... Thanks again for an interesting and bangin' video brother!... 💯💥🤠
@johncashwell1024 Жыл бұрын
In my own research I have found several instances of "brown powders" being used. Naval use for large bore guns and army artillery were the largest users, that I found. My research is very limited, so take it as a starting point.
@calvingreene90 Жыл бұрын
It would be quite practical in a Colt Walker.
@308dad82 жыл бұрын
Thanks for breaking down why we need sulfur in BP. If we were stuck with no sulphur but we had potassium nitrate and charcoal what could be subbed in for sulphur or would granulation change solve the problem?
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of sugar, iron oxide and a few more but I haven’t tried them yet
@forrest5050 Жыл бұрын
once again if it aint broke dont fix it keep the sulpher in .glad i watched this i have a much better understanding of black powder thanks for video
@Everythingblackpowder
Жыл бұрын
Happy to help
@syncringe18858 ай бұрын
The question becomes what can be used instead. Way I see it. Sulferless only really works if you can replace it and the issue is with what.
@luisgarza20362 жыл бұрын
Great vídeo shows with numbers how important is sulphur in BP, maybe increasing sulphur by 1 to 2 % and lowering charcoal the same amount make a little faster burning than the classic 75/15/10 mix, just maybe. Have you tested balsa wood charcoal? Thanks for sharing!
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
I have found the fastest and most powerful ratio is 77/13/10. I haven’t tried balsa yet.
@Bayan19053 ай бұрын
My local gun shop recently got a huge supply of American Pioneer Powder and Jim Shockey's Gold sulfur free powders that they got from a defunct gun shop that closed up a couple years ago. I know that both are supposed to be able to work in flintlocks, but I've heard they were known for wide variations in velocity between shots and if you live in a humid climate they degrade really fast. I thought about trying some just to see if it works in my matchlock or mortar if I can get it cheap enough. One thing I did notice is that American Pioneer Powder was listed as an explosive, not a propellant like the other substitutes. I wonder if that was something that led to their demise if you had to order them the same way as real black powder.
@Everythingblackpowder
3 ай бұрын
I’ve never tried it.
@Bayan1905
3 ай бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder the guy at the shop let me take a little bit so I could see what how fast it burns, I took a bit of FFFG outside, about a large spoonfull and tested it. It burns fast, much, much faster than what I've ever seen Pyrodex and Triple 7 burn at and about as fast as Goex. I figure I may try it just to see. Worst case scenario I use it my caplocks.
@tsclly2377 Жыл бұрын
try adding 2-5% rosin in place of the charcoal for better binding.. especially if adding stuff like iron oxide.. This is from the old Chlorate explosive mixes..
@_muody Жыл бұрын
Love your work, especially that there's clear comparison between your various attempts. Have you heard of crimson powder? Or its Fe2O3 free version - golden powder? Generally in both ascorbic acid is used as fuel. I've heard that some people used it in model rockets, for parachute ejection, but I've never seen someone use it in black powder gun. Apparently it burns cleaner and colder, yet is more potent, so I don't even know how safe it is.
@_muody
8 ай бұрын
@@tafdiz Do you know if it's cleaner than black powder? And am I right assuming it shouldn't be corrosive?
@Everythingblackpowder
8 ай бұрын
@_muody it is much cleaner than standard black powder but just as corrosive
@_muody
8 ай бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder thank you, interesting. Always assumed that corrosivity comes from sulfur or chlorine compounds.
@Everythingblackpowder
8 ай бұрын
@@_muody nope. It’s the nitrate that makes it corrosive
@_muody
8 ай бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder learned something new. Thanks again :-)
@Steven-gv1ke5 ай бұрын
I would just like to point out, that nobody would say a 45 ACP (.45 cal) pistol shooting a 230 grain bullet at 800 fps, is "pathetic". So now realize this is likely an even heavier round, moving at 1103 fps, significantly faster than a .45 cal pistol round. This would absolutely stop ANY two legged critter and the majority of game animals in the lower 48 states.
@veteranironoutdoors83202 жыл бұрын
Dont need a volcano. You can heat fools gold in a container and it will off gas its sulphur. Then you let it condense and just scrape it off the walls of said container. And from what I read its pure enough to not need refining. Been collecting every pice i come across to try myself
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@richbattaglia5350
2 жыл бұрын
Just be careful around those fumes when separating iron pyrite from its sulfur. Hydrogen sulfide (HS2) is highly toxic and protective equipment outdoors is recommended.
@richbattaglia5350
2 жыл бұрын
Forgive me! It’s H2S not HS2 for hydrogen sulfide!!!!
@timsaxer64422 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and am enjoying it! I have a question after watching your pucking video. Can you use several discs in the pucking die to compress several layers at once with no ill effects? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this. Thanks in advance!
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
I suppose so. I've never tried that
@faelwolf1177
Жыл бұрын
Haven't made my own powder yet, but do have experience working with hydraulic presses. Yes, you can make (small) stacks at a time, but no need for a full separate disk, just put something in the column to keep the pucks separate, such as a thin sheet of plastic cut from a milk jug or something. Otherwise, you'll end up with one really tall puck that will take ages to dry out properly. I'd recommend just doing a puck at a time until you have a lot more experience though, baby steps. And when dealing with something like black powder, small amounts make for small mistakes, large amounts make for disasters.
@user-ns7lb6bo1b2 жыл бұрын
sulfurless you should try 80% 20%
@jtcustomknives10 ай бұрын
Did you try upping the charcoal and leave the salt Peter at 75% if sulphur is a fuel then just replace it with charcoal and bump up the potassium till you get a complete burn. I also wonder if Corning it much finer would bump the velocity.
@dominbgky01 Жыл бұрын
I just found the channel so you may have answered the question but do you activate the charcoal to increase it's surface area?
@Geekofarm2 жыл бұрын
Model rocketry buffs use 1-5% red iron oxide (red rust) in their nitrate-based "rocket candy" to increase the burn rate. Would the same thing help your sulfur-free black powder?
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
It’s very possible but I don’t know for sure
@VikOlliver
4 ай бұрын
Cody's Lab did this. That was back before the first FBI visit and the mass KZread video takedown. Old-school aspirin also boosts the burn rate, but dunno how well that'd go in a gun barrel.
@r.l.g.iii.30286 ай бұрын
Not silver... A typo ... I ment sugar in place of sulfer.
@AristotelisPhilippakos Жыл бұрын
Very informative thank you. P.S. best fricken outro ever
@joezaloga Жыл бұрын
Sugar might be a viable substitute although it might bring other problems to the table
@angrydragon4574
Жыл бұрын
I've allegedly read that it makes the chamber and the bore gummy but this is alleged. I have no idea how true this is or not.
@minigpracing3068 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried any of the sugar/sorbitol rocket fuel recipes to replace the carbon and the sulphur? Just wondering if this might be a possible alternative. There are a few different variations on these rocket fuels.
@PYROPOSTY19848 ай бұрын
70% kclo4 or KCLO3 30% charcoal Their are other sulfur free Compositions White hots and more
@KathrynLiz1 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative... I have heard of sulphur free BP but never tried any. How does your home made BP with sulphur compare?
@Everythingblackpowder
Жыл бұрын
The sulphur makes all the difference
@thinkingbill13042 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@redneckwithajeep5001 Жыл бұрын
So I can see why an army might go through extreme lengths for sulfur but an individual doesn't need to if he doesn't have the option. That's very interesting given how difficult it is to get powder from a supplier these days. My question is does it make a noticable difference on residue left behind? I don't think I'd want to use this in a flintlock but on a percussion rifle it seems like one could do this if they felt the need for it.
@Everythingblackpowder
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I completely forgot to mention that in the video. It burns very very clean, cleaner than any other powder I’ve experimented with but the cleanliness isn’t worth the lack of performance. My brother tried it in his .50 Hawkin rifle and it was even more wimpy because the barrel is so much shorter than my rifle.
@rjoetting7594 Жыл бұрын
Looks like it would be good for gallery loads without having to use a filler.
@pernykvist34429 ай бұрын
I would miss the smell of sulfur when burning black powder
@hulkgqnissanpatrol61216 ай бұрын
Sulphur-less powders on record with patent's. Kno3/Charcoal. #1 Lancaster 70.5/29.5 #2 Noble 80/20 #3 Noble (stoichiometric) 87.1/12.9 #4 Thomas (SFG.12) 70/30 Everything else is Perchlorate, chlorate,magnesium and nitrocellulose-based that I could find specifically used for firearms. Anything else I found was a flash or a changing charge used in firework shell's.
@raysheppard804011 ай бұрын
Awesome now that is for a rifle not so much for revolvers I can see the rifle application other than that I see no need
@isaiahcampbell4886 ай бұрын
While not on par with other powder: 1) Would I want to be shot by it? No 2) Could it possibly kill game? Probably
@blandman3471 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, but what were your groups like ? There must be some affect on accuracy with slower burning powder.
@Everythingblackpowder
Жыл бұрын
To be honest I wasn’t too concerned because it wasn’t something that I was going to pursue further.
@honeyislandoutfitters98872 жыл бұрын
I still hunt with black powder every year... it's much easier than leaning into an engine compartment all day long 😁
@sirjhonson82182 жыл бұрын
I have used powder sugar in place of the sulfer.
@dalehammond17494 ай бұрын
I tell you what I did once. I had been sick and in recovery decided to make up some powder. I did 75% potassium nitrate, 15% Sulfur, and 10% charcoal. It ran in the ballmill for about an hour before it hit me. Duh! I still have that concoction and maybe some time I'll finish it to see how it does.
@Walter-wo5sz2 жыл бұрын
I'm sticking with brimstone.
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@Lurker19542 жыл бұрын
Powder is extremely hard to comer by in Alaska. Shipping costs being the main problem. I would be interested in Sulphur substitutes.
@jeremiahembs5343
Жыл бұрын
Sulphur should be easy to obtain. It's a by-product of oil refining and most of it is not used, but rather piled into pyramids by the oil companies. Ask around and see if your local oil refinery can direct you to a source. I know gardening is difficult in Alaska, but gardening suppliers will sell sulphur as "flowers" or flours of sulphur which just means it's been ground into a fine powder and that's the most common way people get it.
@shakostarsun8 ай бұрын
Those numbers would still kill anything if shot placed good imo.
@waterrzzmrsir95546 ай бұрын
In an emergency situation it would still fire a projectile
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Pulling out a chemistry book to find alternates for sulphur like iron oxide is probably more practical than looking for a volcano.
@_Emerald_Eye_
4 ай бұрын
Have you tried the iron oxide? Does it perform well?
@calvingreene90
4 ай бұрын
@@_Emerald_Eye_ I've only seen it on Cody's lab.
@ralfvk.4571
4 ай бұрын
That is interesting, indeed. I guess, there wouldn't be something better, than pure sulfur, but maybe several components, to replace it, that have a catalytic effect - maybe also some sulfates, so that the speed will increase significantly, at least. Nitrate + 30% coal will still give a powder, better than nothing, like we have seen, but it's very slow.
@dpasek1
2 ай бұрын
I'm trying 1% of NaFeEDTA to provide a trace of ferric iron as a catalyst. I add an extra 1.1% of KNO3 to oxidize the EDTA. I don't have any comparison data yet.
@tafdiz
3 күн бұрын
@@calvingreene90 have you noticed that guy in the video looks like cody? his gestures, way he talks and looks..
Being able to cut your ingredients down by a third is a big deal, it's obviously functional, sounds to me like it should be considered the "BP Basic" recipe and adding sulfur is more like "BP Deluxe" for added performance. I'm not even a novice when it comes to BP though, haha, Mike.
Sulphur not only lowers the ignition temperature, but it also STABILIZES THE BURN RATE. That's in most of the literature. That's why you are getting variations in velocity without it. Having it throughout the mixture means you have an even burning fuel to carry that flame all the way through the powder. Otherwise the burning wanes and you don't have that predictable exothermic reaction you want. Using a magnum primer can help overcome the problem, but ultimately having sulphur in the powder is the right way to go.
@SR-gs8zo
4 ай бұрын
exactly! there is tons of online info out there...completely legal and free and good explanations...and WARNINGS...BCS A LOT OF PEOPLE BLOWD TJEMSELVES AND BYSTANDERS UP MIXING...
From my experience I have found that having good homemade charcoal from good wood such as willow, poplar, birch or alder buckthorn is essential as a starting point for a good black powder. The next step is to micronize the charcoal below 80 micrometers before mixing it with the other ingredients. The final mixing in a ball mill is also an important aspect to give speed and regularity to the combustion.
The sulfur-containing BP in the pan seems to create more and denser smoke than the sulfur-free BP main charge! Definitely worth consideration for a percussion lock or cartridge gun.
Contrary to popular myth and it will be mentioned, it is still corrosive.
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Most definitely
@awsomedude9111
10 ай бұрын
I guess potassium is under the sodium / salt corrosive element
@mikeclement5383
6 ай бұрын
It's hydrophilic. Water promotes oxidation. The actual elemental powder is not corrosive.
In an apocalypse mad max style, these two ingredients are locally available almost wherever you are. The third however would require a nearby volcano. A beautiful video with love for the hobby.
@abluebird123
Жыл бұрын
Volcano or gardening store that hasn’t been fully ransacked
@Samonie67
4 ай бұрын
whilst pure natural sulfur isn't found outside of vulcanoes and hotsprings you could find certain mineral deposits like iron sulfide in the ground, process those with a furnace and some heat and seperate the iron from the sulfur though it'd require a lot more work
@sturmunddrang1132
4 ай бұрын
I worked in the oilsands for some time. All I can think about is watching them pour liquid Sulphur into forms and create pyramids out of it that covered thousands of square yards and were built up 50 feet or more. I remember they were hoping to make fertilizer out of it at one point but the purity didn't meet standards. I don't know the entire process, but there are definitely other ways of getting Sulphur than spelunking a volcano
Ever read "Blood Meridian" by Cormac McCarthy? He revisits the entire powder making process, in the Sonora desert, in 1852. It involves climbing into Volcanos and gathering guano, leaching it in creeks and making the final batch, all while being pursued by the Gallegos Apache's. Good stuff bubba.
Just a heads up...I ordered ingredients off EBay and EBay red flagged my purchases..notifying the “government”. They had been casing my house and went to my wife’s job to interrogate her on my hobbies..etc. Then they questioned me on why I was ordering these ingredients. I have done nothing illegal. Long story short..if you need to acquire ingredients, buy them from a brick and mortar and you will not run into what I had to deal with.
The gap between the cylinder and barrel may have also been a factor compared to the enclosed system of the rifle along with the softness of the powder. The slight pressure release may have slowed the ignition time a milli second. Good stuff Jake. You da man.👍 Don’t singe your eyebrows in the local Vesuvius. Even at the comparatively pedestrian speed of that powder in the rifle, it will put meat on the table within a reasonable range. Airguns are killing deer at a hundred yards now with less velocity. It may work for the in flight portion of holiday rockets after the lift stage leaving a nice smoky trail.
Love your videos bud!! Keep em coming! I'm excited to hear about your latest developments in optimizing your homemade BP!
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
Garden sulfur is available by the pound, and works fine in bp.
I was really having a horrible couple days and I appreciate you making these videos it's something that helps more than you know ❤
@Everythingblackpowder
6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it
@WilsonPendarvis-tn3wm
5 ай бұрын
I’m sure your spirits were down. Please don’t be depressed.
@WilsonPendarvis-tn3wm
5 ай бұрын
I’m sure your spirits were down. Please don’t be depressed.
@WilsonPendarvis-tn3wm
5 ай бұрын
I’m sure your spirits were down. Please don’t be depressed.
Interesting experient. Thanks for taking the time to conduct and present it
Interesting experiment and video. So apparently there was no problem with ignition. I am surprised.
@Everythingblackpowder
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
1st video of yours I have seen. I subscribed. Thanks for the information. Look forward to seeing more videos of yours.
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
I made black powder with sugar because the barrel rusts out of sulfur. It burns quickly but needs three times the amount to make a good shot.
@tomassosaoconnor
5 ай бұрын
Add some iron oxide to it. Between 0.5 and 2%. It speeds up the reaction dramatically. I've done that in rockets
@NinjaChemistChannel
2 ай бұрын
Try to cook potassium nitrate and sugar with red or yellow iron oxide. I have a video how to make it properly. It called rocket candy(available through playlist "all videos"). It burns very fast, however i didnt test it in firearms, only in rockets.
Great video. Just recently found your channel. I've been shooting black since I was a kid, thought I knew pretty much what there was to know about it. I subscribed today because every video of yours, that I've watched, gaave me something to think about. Thank you
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it
Once again great content. I haven't done any real blackpowder historical research. But it sounds like a very interesting topic. Plus thanks.. i never corned my home made powder until i found your channel. and wow it really made my powder perform much better
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, it’s the only way to fly
@OhnoAnt
Жыл бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder what differences does it make having corned blackpowder compared to just powdered blackpowder?
@goodmaro
6 ай бұрын
@@OhnoAnt One difference is that corned grains pack in such a way as to provide space for fire to flash between them, while plain mill dust can compress to a degree that precludes that.
Thank you for your videos. perfectly informational & you break it down, so a guy that doesn't know jack about black powder like myself can understand. also, that is such a beautiful rifle.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you
It's a good thing sulfer is very easy to obtain now or my really big bores would not function very well . I make my powder and add just a little extra sulfer.. The big bores that I build seem to love it .I build very large 7 Guage rifles and 11 Guage rifles . That's 7\8jths and 3\4 bores ,they prefer sulfer .As always very good comparison video .I had never actually tested the powder over Chrono .keep up the good work
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
Black powder is quickly becoming my favorite, especially as an Early America history enthusiast
Two things about sulfur that I think are relevant: When sulfur burns, it produces acid, SO2. This will help catalyze the decomposition of the nitrate. When KNO3 thermally decomposes, it produces alkali, K2O or K2CO3 (potash) This will be neutralized by the SO2 to produce a salt, K2SO3. Without the sulfur, you get a strongly alkaline ash in the fouling.
You lose energy when you remove the sulfur, so to replace that lost energy you will need to add another fuel, a catalyst, or a more powerful oxidizer. I can tell you that some commercial BP substitutes use potassium perchlorate in their formula, how much is a trade secret of course, but that gives you a place to start. Edit: Deleted the section on a certain formula, since it implied that it might be useful in a firearm. It's not, and would probably result in a burst barrel if tried. Don't Do It!
@Godwh1sperer
Жыл бұрын
I would sincerely recommend keeping it to nitrat as perc opens up an incredible can of worms requiring similar but different expertise as the result is intended to go off in your hands instead of at 50 ft. and tube, we are ofcourse referring to cracker barrel and having barrels of laughs here.
@forrest5050
Жыл бұрын
potassium perchlorate is one of the ingredients in modern primers. it is as one you tuber commented a "angry chemical" do not think it should have been mentioned as a black powder additive.or guess you could throw the gun at em as a hand grenade lol
@Godwh1sperer
Жыл бұрын
@@forrest5050 you're confusing potassium perchlorate (that is in pyrodex) with potassium chlorate (the angry primer compound) still, lets not go there, like you say.
I recall reading (probably hatchers notebook or foxfire) that sulfur turns to gas, charcoal burns, saltpeter adds oxygen so charcoal burns hotter and the sulfur converts to gas upping the pressure.
Discovered your site, I love it, I like the simple explanations without going scientifically crazy, I may just give it a go
@Everythingblackpowder
Ай бұрын
Glad to hear it
Sulfur also causes that during reaction of burning more CO2 gas is released because Instead of forming carbonate salts, sulfates are formed, so greater volume of gas is created.
I make combustible paper cartridges for my 1858. I also have a Taylor's and Company 6-Shot 45Colt conversion cylinder for it... Now I'm seriously considering making my own powder, a lot of work, but I wouldn't have to worry about not being able to get Pyrodex-P for my pistol
Love this testing. Saves me lots of trouble.
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help
Excellent video. Very informative and entertaining. My Grandfather used to make his own black powder back in the '40's when he said "store bought powder" started to get really hard to come by around here, (the back woods of north Alabama), and Sulphur was the same, so used cane sugar as a substitute. Have you ever heard of this? Also, he said that it made a much harder fouling than using Sulphur, and you had to lube well, (tallow and wax), to keep the fouling soft and wipe after every 3 or 4 rounds. Anyway, great video and I look forward to the next one.
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting. I haven’t heard of that.
@308dad8
2 жыл бұрын
I know there are some improvised propellants that employ sugar
@InsanoBinLooney
2 жыл бұрын
Powdered rust (iron oxide) can also be used instead of sulphur
@sevensfist_com
2 жыл бұрын
@@InsanoBinLooney Use The tips of those huge BBQ 'safety' matches. Back of spoon to crush off head, side cutters to remove remainder of the acquired tips & you can use the wooden sticks to make the carcoal, while you have a 55 gallon drum with urine soaked compost to later harvest the saltpetre! Make sure they!re safety matches only, or when making the puck 'first strike POW'!👊😂👍
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine
2 жыл бұрын
@@308dad8 Potassium Chlorate + Sugar can make a crude propellant, as I understand.
Congrats on 100k!!!
@Everythingblackpowder
14 күн бұрын
Thank you
Interesting stuff. Way better than I would have expected. For whatever reason, my more recent batches with ERC shavings, milled for 18-24 hours & granulated, come out about as well as your sulphur-less compressed powder -- needing about 70-80% more powder by volume to achieve the same velocity & weight. As you pointed out, fine for muzzleloaders. But not ideal.
@308dad8
2 жыл бұрын
Try poplar or willow charcoal?
Beautiful rifle. I love it.
30% coal is too much. Optimal range for best performance is 16-20% .But thanks for this experiment.
still lmpressive! checkout your power come pared to big bore air guns for hunting, at least you can still hunt even the pistol energy better then you think in fpe keep shooting
Apparently corned granules being harder allow for more oxygen in the chamber😊 Thanks for the Videos btw!
The way that loading lever kept dropping you would think you were shooting a Walker.
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the latch is broken
I made surfer less black powder to shoot in my homemade pole and hand cannons. I’m sure in the early days of black powder firearms people shot whatever they could to make the gun work. Also whiteout a lock to detonate the charge the slower burning powder allowed more time to aim after setting the priming charge on fire
Thank -you!
The impact energy increases by square to, so doubling the velocity from say 500 ft/ s to 1000 increases the impact energy four times. So it is a huge difference.
I found out from a yank that was corresponding with me online that my American brothers and sisters have had recent restrictions put on black powder over there. They are systematically losing all the freedoms they have traditionally celebrated. Soon, they will have none at all. I heard their last elections were blotched, as well, by design. I feel for my American brothers and sisters.
Love your ending
Great video! In my next batch I may grind up some fatwood and add it instead of sulphur. Just to see how it works.
Just wouldn't smell the same without sulfur
great video! i wonder how well sulfer-free black powder would work in a modern semi auto gun, i know that standard black powder cycles any pistol caliber pretty reliably but idk about sulferless, even if it does cycle though the power would probably be too little to actually be worth it
Dang it man, just found your channel. I’m now going to have to get some black powder replica guns.
Very interesting. Thanks.
I've seen small mountains of Sulphur being piled outside to be loaded on ships. Evidently it is common near Vancouver Canada.
Videos are perfect! I wander if you ever try to make black powder with fig charcoal? Fig is soft tree and grow very fast so... I think your channel is best place for this question.
Try adding a little sugar. Potassium nitrate and sugar is model rocket fuel.... it might help bind it too.
I believe the sulfur free powder and pellets sold today may have to revert to using it again, as I also see the same reduced velocities in my rifle with it. Which is possibly why they recommend more powder than the max charge of black powder the firearm manufacturers recommend.
Very interesting . Thanks
You didn't comment on the fouling in the video? The videos using toilet paper carbon was interesting for the differences in fouling and I wonder how the lack of sulfur effected this? The lack of the added gasses from the sulfur sure made for less oomph!
@Everythingblackpowder
5 ай бұрын
The sulfur free powder was very clean
Excellent video, thanks. Oi the Ozarks, back in the (very) early days, the people made a form of 'rock candy' from maple syrup (sugar), potassium nitrate and iron oxide. Made a passable 'black' powder when none was to be had. My question: Will the addition of iron oxide to the standard 3 part mix (normal BP) have any effect?
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had several people ask me about iron oxide. I’ll have to look into it
Those are some sedate velocities from the revolver. Slowest I've ever loaded was 650fps (.452" 230 gr LRN) to mimic a .455 webley loading.
@Everythingblackpowder
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Pretty disappointing
Always instructional.
Excellent video👍👍👍👍
I think sulfur free needs to be finer grained, that would up the burn rate and pressure.
Oh my God you almost made me crash my car I was listening to your video talking about finding you a volcano to climb up and that was awesome
Other than possible soot left behind in guns. I have made firecrackers using homemade black powder. In place of the sulfer I have use specofocally Coffee Mate brand creamer. I also used fine beet powder with good results. The beet powder was a left over from a health food diet.
I think part of your performance issues may come from the ratios you have. I'm not 100% since it's been a while, but when I was looking at the medieval and civil war era sulfurless recipes they didn't just replace the sulfur with more charcoal, they actually changed the amount of nitrate too. It was a bit less than if you replaced the sulfur 1:1 by just adding more charcoal.
.... and that's how Hernán Cortéz woopped our arses in Mexico to become what it did till today, just a bunch of.... Thanks again for an interesting and bangin' video brother!... 💯💥🤠
In my own research I have found several instances of "brown powders" being used. Naval use for large bore guns and army artillery were the largest users, that I found. My research is very limited, so take it as a starting point.
It would be quite practical in a Colt Walker.
Thanks for breaking down why we need sulfur in BP. If we were stuck with no sulphur but we had potassium nitrate and charcoal what could be subbed in for sulphur or would granulation change solve the problem?
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of sugar, iron oxide and a few more but I haven’t tried them yet
once again if it aint broke dont fix it keep the sulpher in .glad i watched this i have a much better understanding of black powder thanks for video
@Everythingblackpowder
Жыл бұрын
Happy to help
The question becomes what can be used instead. Way I see it. Sulferless only really works if you can replace it and the issue is with what.
Great vídeo shows with numbers how important is sulphur in BP, maybe increasing sulphur by 1 to 2 % and lowering charcoal the same amount make a little faster burning than the classic 75/15/10 mix, just maybe. Have you tested balsa wood charcoal? Thanks for sharing!
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
I have found the fastest and most powerful ratio is 77/13/10. I haven’t tried balsa yet.
My local gun shop recently got a huge supply of American Pioneer Powder and Jim Shockey's Gold sulfur free powders that they got from a defunct gun shop that closed up a couple years ago. I know that both are supposed to be able to work in flintlocks, but I've heard they were known for wide variations in velocity between shots and if you live in a humid climate they degrade really fast. I thought about trying some just to see if it works in my matchlock or mortar if I can get it cheap enough. One thing I did notice is that American Pioneer Powder was listed as an explosive, not a propellant like the other substitutes. I wonder if that was something that led to their demise if you had to order them the same way as real black powder.
@Everythingblackpowder
3 ай бұрын
I’ve never tried it.
@Bayan1905
3 ай бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder the guy at the shop let me take a little bit so I could see what how fast it burns, I took a bit of FFFG outside, about a large spoonfull and tested it. It burns fast, much, much faster than what I've ever seen Pyrodex and Triple 7 burn at and about as fast as Goex. I figure I may try it just to see. Worst case scenario I use it my caplocks.
try adding 2-5% rosin in place of the charcoal for better binding.. especially if adding stuff like iron oxide.. This is from the old Chlorate explosive mixes..
Love your work, especially that there's clear comparison between your various attempts. Have you heard of crimson powder? Or its Fe2O3 free version - golden powder? Generally in both ascorbic acid is used as fuel. I've heard that some people used it in model rockets, for parachute ejection, but I've never seen someone use it in black powder gun. Apparently it burns cleaner and colder, yet is more potent, so I don't even know how safe it is.
@_muody
8 ай бұрын
@@tafdiz Do you know if it's cleaner than black powder? And am I right assuming it shouldn't be corrosive?
@Everythingblackpowder
8 ай бұрын
@_muody it is much cleaner than standard black powder but just as corrosive
@_muody
8 ай бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder thank you, interesting. Always assumed that corrosivity comes from sulfur or chlorine compounds.
@Everythingblackpowder
8 ай бұрын
@@_muody nope. It’s the nitrate that makes it corrosive
@_muody
8 ай бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder learned something new. Thanks again :-)
I would just like to point out, that nobody would say a 45 ACP (.45 cal) pistol shooting a 230 grain bullet at 800 fps, is "pathetic". So now realize this is likely an even heavier round, moving at 1103 fps, significantly faster than a .45 cal pistol round. This would absolutely stop ANY two legged critter and the majority of game animals in the lower 48 states.
Dont need a volcano. You can heat fools gold in a container and it will off gas its sulphur. Then you let it condense and just scrape it off the walls of said container. And from what I read its pure enough to not need refining. Been collecting every pice i come across to try myself
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@richbattaglia5350
2 жыл бұрын
Just be careful around those fumes when separating iron pyrite from its sulfur. Hydrogen sulfide (HS2) is highly toxic and protective equipment outdoors is recommended.
@richbattaglia5350
2 жыл бұрын
Forgive me! It’s H2S not HS2 for hydrogen sulfide!!!!
Just found your channel and am enjoying it! I have a question after watching your pucking video. Can you use several discs in the pucking die to compress several layers at once with no ill effects? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this. Thanks in advance!
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
I suppose so. I've never tried that
@faelwolf1177
Жыл бұрын
Haven't made my own powder yet, but do have experience working with hydraulic presses. Yes, you can make (small) stacks at a time, but no need for a full separate disk, just put something in the column to keep the pucks separate, such as a thin sheet of plastic cut from a milk jug or something. Otherwise, you'll end up with one really tall puck that will take ages to dry out properly. I'd recommend just doing a puck at a time until you have a lot more experience though, baby steps. And when dealing with something like black powder, small amounts make for small mistakes, large amounts make for disasters.
sulfurless you should try 80% 20%
Did you try upping the charcoal and leave the salt Peter at 75% if sulphur is a fuel then just replace it with charcoal and bump up the potassium till you get a complete burn. I also wonder if Corning it much finer would bump the velocity.
I just found the channel so you may have answered the question but do you activate the charcoal to increase it's surface area?
Model rocketry buffs use 1-5% red iron oxide (red rust) in their nitrate-based "rocket candy" to increase the burn rate. Would the same thing help your sulfur-free black powder?
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
It’s very possible but I don’t know for sure
@VikOlliver
4 ай бұрын
Cody's Lab did this. That was back before the first FBI visit and the mass KZread video takedown. Old-school aspirin also boosts the burn rate, but dunno how well that'd go in a gun barrel.
Not silver... A typo ... I ment sugar in place of sulfer.
Very informative thank you. P.S. best fricken outro ever
Sugar might be a viable substitute although it might bring other problems to the table
@angrydragon4574
Жыл бұрын
I've allegedly read that it makes the chamber and the bore gummy but this is alleged. I have no idea how true this is or not.
Have you ever tried any of the sugar/sorbitol rocket fuel recipes to replace the carbon and the sulphur? Just wondering if this might be a possible alternative. There are a few different variations on these rocket fuels.
70% kclo4 or KCLO3 30% charcoal Their are other sulfur free Compositions White hots and more
Very interesting and informative... I have heard of sulphur free BP but never tried any. How does your home made BP with sulphur compare?
@Everythingblackpowder
Жыл бұрын
The sulphur makes all the difference
Interesting!
So I can see why an army might go through extreme lengths for sulfur but an individual doesn't need to if he doesn't have the option. That's very interesting given how difficult it is to get powder from a supplier these days. My question is does it make a noticable difference on residue left behind? I don't think I'd want to use this in a flintlock but on a percussion rifle it seems like one could do this if they felt the need for it.
@Everythingblackpowder
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I completely forgot to mention that in the video. It burns very very clean, cleaner than any other powder I’ve experimented with but the cleanliness isn’t worth the lack of performance. My brother tried it in his .50 Hawkin rifle and it was even more wimpy because the barrel is so much shorter than my rifle.
Looks like it would be good for gallery loads without having to use a filler.
I would miss the smell of sulfur when burning black powder
Sulphur-less powders on record with patent's. Kno3/Charcoal. #1 Lancaster 70.5/29.5 #2 Noble 80/20 #3 Noble (stoichiometric) 87.1/12.9 #4 Thomas (SFG.12) 70/30 Everything else is Perchlorate, chlorate,magnesium and nitrocellulose-based that I could find specifically used for firearms. Anything else I found was a flash or a changing charge used in firework shell's.
Awesome now that is for a rifle not so much for revolvers I can see the rifle application other than that I see no need
While not on par with other powder: 1) Would I want to be shot by it? No 2) Could it possibly kill game? Probably
Very interesting, but what were your groups like ? There must be some affect on accuracy with slower burning powder.
@Everythingblackpowder
Жыл бұрын
To be honest I wasn’t too concerned because it wasn’t something that I was going to pursue further.
I still hunt with black powder every year... it's much easier than leaning into an engine compartment all day long 😁
I have used powder sugar in place of the sulfer.
I tell you what I did once. I had been sick and in recovery decided to make up some powder. I did 75% potassium nitrate, 15% Sulfur, and 10% charcoal. It ran in the ballmill for about an hour before it hit me. Duh! I still have that concoction and maybe some time I'll finish it to see how it does.
I'm sticking with brimstone.
@Everythingblackpowder
2 жыл бұрын
Same here!
Powder is extremely hard to comer by in Alaska. Shipping costs being the main problem. I would be interested in Sulphur substitutes.
@jeremiahembs5343
Жыл бұрын
Sulphur should be easy to obtain. It's a by-product of oil refining and most of it is not used, but rather piled into pyramids by the oil companies. Ask around and see if your local oil refinery can direct you to a source. I know gardening is difficult in Alaska, but gardening suppliers will sell sulphur as "flowers" or flours of sulphur which just means it's been ground into a fine powder and that's the most common way people get it.
Those numbers would still kill anything if shot placed good imo.
In an emergency situation it would still fire a projectile
@Everythingblackpowder
6 ай бұрын
Absolutely
Good Video