The actress who played Beyhan had done a tremendous job here...initially a shock..just cant believe and then bursting out crying..then leaving the palace...she nailed it.

Ibrahim Pasha watched Ferhat Pasha being strangled, not realising, at the time, that he would suffer the same fate.

@mozaidazli2806

2 ай бұрын

A year later after he executed Iskender Celebi

@mohammadibrahim3828

Ай бұрын

Inrahim pasha was lot better for caliphate then ferget pasha

At 33:40, many of us already know that Hatice will feel that pain someday.

I don't understand people like Ferhat Pasha, like, you were spared once and given a chance to repent, but would rather do the same crime again then beg when you get caught again, knowing full well there won't be a second chance anymore because you squandered the first one.

@Redluna32

Жыл бұрын

It feels like a display of arrogance (ironically, rather similar to how Ibrahim got in the show...) alongside of a dash of foolishness. Because, yeah, a sensible person would get that there wouldn't be a second chance, but it seems almost as if he took getting spared as a sign that such leniency was always assured to him out of being married to Beyhan.

This is not the first execution that His Majesty orders

the fact she got all her clothes and jewels from the people they were suppose to care for means nothing. her husband was a con and robber. that's what you can tell your kids!

@CrimsonAngelWinges

Жыл бұрын

Suleiman should have had Beyhan watch his trial. I don't blame her for being upset and not wanting to stay in the capital or with Hatice. But her anger shouldn't be solely on Suleiman her husband was spared death once and he still continued.

@celticprincess2002

7 ай бұрын

@@CrimsonAngelWingesI doubt it occurred to him as back them women in the Ottoman Royal Family were often kept away from such matters. There were strict rules for who could and could not have access to the women in the Sultans family and his haram. But yes it would of helped her she was educated much more than most women of the time.

@user-co5rg7fe5b

11 күн бұрын

*You taunt and ridicule the sufferings of others. The family of the criminal are also Human beings, don't blame her.*

@user-co5rg7fe5b

11 күн бұрын

*How heartless are you? She lost her husband, whatever he was. The family of criminals are also Human beings, You can't understand her pain.*

@user-zo4ei1ip2i

2 күн бұрын

​@@user-co5rg7fe5bNobody blames Beyhan, but she can't expect Süleyman to treat Ferhad as if he wasn't a criminal.

Ok but what about dear old hubby torturing all those subjects? Plus he did it before. Is she so surprised?

@CrimsonAngelWinges

Жыл бұрын

Suleiman should have had Beyhan watch his trial. I don't blame her for being upset and not wanting to stay in the capital or with Hatice. But her anger shouldn't be solely on Suleiman her husband was spared death once and he still continued.

23:26 - how could Ibrahim see Suley behind that thick grid? 🤔

@florjanbrudar692

6 күн бұрын

Suley???

This is actually one of those moments that's pretty dang close to the "real historical". That Hafsa actually spoke to convince Suleiman to spare the pasha in the first place, plays a big role in why some historians consider her to be Beyhan's mother to begin with (the record of Selim I's daughters is difficult to decipher). About the only thing that isn't real is the foreshadowing this serves for Hatice as it's now been proven she never actually married Ibrahim. Works well within the show, though! (Also that bit exchange around 1:09 is very telling of how Ibrahim's own poor actions will eventually be handled.)

@nesiacha3659

Жыл бұрын

In fact Hatice husband was executed by her father Selim Yavuz ( despite that he play a big role in his ascension to the throne just like a lot of Sultans in fact , it seems that being Vizier or Pasha was dangerous). Would have been a better write than show script I think. Yes there has been a lot of (false) speculation that Hatice was Ibrahim's wife. Maybe due to the fact that Ibrahim died strangled like a member of the dynasty (because their blood should not flow), I don't know. A yes the daughters of Selim Yavuz. One of the reasons why he won against his half brother Ahmed and his father Bayezid II (especially with the role of Hatice's husband). That's why I don't buy into the belief that Mahidevran was relieved gave birth to a daughter, she was Suleiman's concubine when he was sehzade so of course she knows how very useful a Sultana was (and I think the historic Hurrem was relieved too, Mihrimah as the Sultan's daughter would live without worrying about being strangled). Going back to the Sultan's daughters, it seems that he was very fond of Hatice daughter of his favorite Hafsa (but he was horrible when he had her husband executed no matter how much I like Selim Yavuz, he could be a terrible person even if he was one of the greatest Sultans), but also Sah daughter of the Crimean princess Ayse. But it seems he had a complicated relationship with Fatma Sultan who constantly complained to him about her husband (and since he didn't grant a divorce, I don't think they got along well). Hafsa was a good Valide (historically) and did many good things for the Ottoman Empire and neutral towards Hurrem and Mahidevran. But it would seem that when it came to her family she would put her family first like the case of Beyhan husband (understandable I would have done the same) or when it would seem that she didn't object to Suleiman taking the irresponsible decision to break the rule one concubine one son, when she should have opposed a little more (even if it would not have changed anything)

@drfhgs428

Жыл бұрын

@@nesiacha3659 Yes,i also like Selim I more because he really expanded the empire for 8 years. Compared to Selim II,Mehmed III,Ibrahim I and Mustafa II whose reign was also 8 years,he was strong and powerful padishah,even though he was cruel at some point. I think that he was better than his son Suleiman I. I've seen some historians are giving the first place to Suleiman I,and the second to Selim I,but idk really. Agree about Hatice's husband,but he also executed the husbands of his other daughetrs and sisters too. Yes i agree about grand vizier position. The confusion about Ibrahim and Hatice being married was that Ibrahim married Muhsine Hatun(whose first name was Hatice)and her mother was called Hafsa Hatun(she was sister of Mihrishah Hatun-the woman who raised Ibrahim). Shah was neither daughter of Ayse Hatun(Crimean princess)or Hafsa Sultan. The mother of Shah was anonymous concubine(who lived until 1556 and died in Old Palace). It is probably that Selim married Ayse Hatun(daughter of Crimean khan)who previously was wife of his brother Sehzade Mehmed(who was governour of Kefe province). Ayse Hatun with Sehzade Mehmed had 2 children:son(also named Mehmed after his father,he was posthumus) who died as child and a daughter- Fatma Sultan. The marriage between Selim I and Ayse Hatun was political,to gain the support of Crimean khan when he rebeled against his father(something similar as Osman II with Akile Hatun and the granddaughter of Pertev Pasa,or as Mehmed II with Mukrime Hatun and Hatice Hatun). There are also some who said that this marriage didn't happened. But probably it happened. But what is sure,is that Ayse Hatun and Selim I didn't have children. Agree about Hafsa Sultan.

@nesiacha3659

Жыл бұрын

@@drfhgs428 Yes I think that Selim was one the best Sultans. I would really like to see what would happen if Selim Yavuz , Shah Abbas, Queen Elizabeth I, Louis XI of France , Friederich II of Prussia, Kings Catholics ( Isabel and Fernando) and Tsar Peter I or Catherine II would have do if they ruled in the same era. Probably a big fight. But still epic XD ( or epic alliance) And imagine the argue between Tsar Peter I and Selim Yavuz Tsar Peter I: My son is rebellious, a traitor and He ran away and probably will try to dethrone me. Selim I: Whats wrong with that? I dethrone my father and killed his heir. But I would do worse if my son even try to contradict myself More seriously, we have to be fair with Selim II he was too busy to repaired all the mistakes of his father. I think that Selim II was a better ruler than his father. I think that Suleiman was overrated , he made many mistakes and was one of the craftsmen of the Ottoman Empire so no he wasn't the best Sultan and he didn't choose well his viziers. I mean Ibrahim was a good diplomat but made too many mistakes, he voluntarily chose a vizier Kara Ahmed knowing that he would not be fit to take the job for Rustem to come back except that the people had to put up with it for a period, Suleiman was not able to manage an imperial treasury compared to Kosem and Murad who had to manage the state coffers in an empty way and in the end Murad filled the treasury in a spectacular way (or Turhan, reason why I consider Turhan and Kosem to be better leaders than Suleiman). He made a lot of reforms but not enough. Selim not only made strategic conquests, he was a true visionary because he knew the problems that the Ottoman Empire was going to see and did everything to overcome them, it could have worked , and he was as demanding of others as himself, and much more dutiful than his son ( Suleiman was selfish for broke all the rules of concubines which could have brought disastrous results when Selim no matter he like Hafsa refuse to do that) even if I know he could be very terrible ( but was also capable of great cruelty, just like his father he beheaded messengers and in his case it was even worse because the message was not as insulting as the one sent by the Shah to Selim if it hadn't been for Hurrem it would surely have been even worse ) I think it's because Selim Yavuz had to fight a lot more for the throne and his survival compared to his son his victory was brought to him on a silver platter (another worst example is Murad III in the easy win matter). In short I find that the three Selim are quite underestimated (Selim I, Selim II and Selim III even if the last one had a tragic end because of the Jannissaries)

@drfhgs428

Жыл бұрын

@@nesiacha3659 Hahaha,true about Peter I and Selim I. Yes i agree about Selim II. It was mainly geopolitical situation-which was Suleiman's fault,and that's why some said Selim bring the downfall of the empire. While in reality,it wasn't like that. I agree about Suleiman I. I think he is overrated because of his reforms(which weren't enough,yes) and that he went on campaigns. Very true about Suleiman I and Murad III,they didn't have to fought for the throne,mainly because of their mothers(who were favourities),also they were only sons for a long time,and yes everything was brought for them on silver platter. Yes I agree about all Selims. Especially I feel sorry for Selim III.He was kind and good ruler,he wanted to end the janissaries also(before Mahmud II). But he was betrayed too by his cousins-Mustafa IV and Esma Sultan and their mother Sineperver Sultan. While he didn't have children, he still considered Mustafa and Mahmud(his little cousins)as his heirs, and even counted them as his children. Also 2 of his concubines throw themselves when the executioners had arrived, so yea it was mess. And he wasn't even strangled, he was pierced with a sword(which was the first and only case a sultan died that way). At least Mihrisah Sultan(his mother)wasn't alive that time,because after Murad and Nurbanu, it is said that Selim and Mihrishah had the second clouse mother and son bond. So yes, it sad. But in the end Mustafa IV didn't rule long(only a year),and he was executed too. Sineperver and Esma reminds me of Halime and Dilruba(show version somehow),and Esma of Mihrimah at some point.

@nesiacha3659

Жыл бұрын

@@drfhgs428 It seems that Mustafa IV was the most hated Sultan with Ibrahim I ( and to right tittle) Yes sad for Selim III , got a lot of good idea and then die horribly ( understand better why Peter I did that with Streltsy even if the repression was horrible and maybe got too far). Agreed about Sinepver and Esma. Too bad that Peter I and Selim never meet each other it would be something. They have a lot in common, as demanding of themselves as the others, go to war for strategic reasons, visionaries, angry, hardworking, have worked hard to ensure their thrones, have definitely brought their different countries to the apogee (even if Peter I has made many more reforms , including treating blacks and whites equally and was more eccentric than Selim for a ruler). In fact Peter I is a mix between Selim Yavuz Murad IV and Mahmud II.

There have been sisters and daughters of sultans that were married of to pasha’s and/or vizirs over and over. One got beheaded, on to the next. The women were used to tie capable people to their sultanate. People that think Hürrem married Mirimah to Rüstem are delusional. The bad rap those two have is thanks to the fact that complaining about a Sultan at the hight of his power was a sure way to get your life shortened: It can’t be the one god send to care for us (sultan) is bad. He must be influenced by bad people. They don’t see duplicity in it: only a weak man can be influenced to do dumb stuff. But what is the sultanate, popedom and any kingdom ruled by an autocrat: one big gaslighting party. Where everybody is supposed to love and honor that one person and explain away all their misdeeds and mistakes.

9:06 "I wouldn't." Sure.

@Caramelpop86

6 күн бұрын

And did....chile

9:04 he had done

5:20 - that man`s complaints sounds very much like capital*stic habits :))

IN MY VIEW I guess Ferhat Pasha's wife was either blind, dumb or left out about how her husband was cruel to his subjects and even murdered.

@micheleford4282

25 күн бұрын

well yes at that home she would have been kept out of public things she probably never knew he was doing those things

@Caramelpop86

6 күн бұрын

She probably didn't know

Why did they strangle Ferat instead of beheading him? I mean he was already kneeling in front of a block made for beheading.

@xperformxperformance8039

8 ай бұрын

Royal family members all are strangled beacause their blood is not allowed to be spilled.

@suegornik-bx4pw

8 ай бұрын

@@xperformxperformance8039 thanks I was wondering why. So different from royal executions in Europe at that time.

@markward3981

5 ай бұрын

​@@suegornik-bx4pw Turkic people are more Asian than European with similar customs to Mongolians.

The bigger the hat, the closer to god. We do that too but with hair.

😮😮😮

I’m just thinking of how painful and heartbreaking this is for his wife Beyhan

@user-fz4ts6fv6o

22 күн бұрын

Strange how there isn't a twinge of conscience while draping herself with silks and jewels stolen by her corrupt husband. She knew what he was. He'd already be pardoned once before.The price has to be paid.

Sad but i understand where Suleiman was coming from! As a king he had to keep the well being of his subjects as his highest priority and he had to dispense justice swiftly and firmly. Otherwise his administration would be weakened. Of course i understand Beyhans feelings too. She lost her husband and father of her children. Nothing could be worse for her than that.

@20PINKluvr

29 күн бұрын

That's probably why sultan ahmed was laughable

How sad.

Perhaps it would have been better if the Sultan transferred Ferhat to Istanbul in a different position

@Oguztogrul

2 ай бұрын

It was empire, not democratic republic :D

I feel badly for Beyhan.

Ugh

The bloodline of Ottoman imperial family are European descent.

@Elifffff726

7 ай бұрын

Sure,because a lot of the Sultans' consorts were European captives and also,Turkey is in Europe too (3% of it)

@bozok6360

2 ай бұрын

Their background does not matter. In islam ethnicity is not important.

@Kjai537

Ай бұрын

I don't see why that matters. Like the person above me said ethnicity does not matter in islam.