Sulawesi Shrimp Tank Setup

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#sulawesi #sulawesishrimps #sulawesitanksetup
Happy Friday!
Latest video in a multi part series on keeping and breeding Sulawesi shrimps.
In this video, I’ll talk about my personal preferences and setup and what’s worked for me. I’ve been keeping and breeding Sulawesi shrimps since 2007 and would love to share my experiences, success and failures with everyone.
Please leave any comments below on your experiences with these fascinating shrimps
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  • @geofishshrimps4407
    @geofishshrimps4407 Жыл бұрын

    very nice sulawesi tank setup bro! my experience in keeping my red socks colony for 1 year now is that they only started breeding when my tds was at 330-350

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh thanks for the information, in their natural lakes tds is 100

  • @HeRo-qd6tk
    @HeRo-qd6tk3 ай бұрын

    Thank you Ray. This is great coaching

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the support and kind words

  • @ShrimpWizard
    @ShrimpWizard4 жыл бұрын

    Wow these shrimps are gorgeous! Never knew about these types of shrimps until I came across this video! Very cool! And amazing job filming and editing! It was very enjoyable and I learned a lot!

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thx so much for the love

  • @reneeturcottecicigoi9435
    @reneeturcottecicigoi94354 жыл бұрын

    Great video and gorgeous shrimp. Love how you let your boys “help” lol

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thx so much for the love

  • @goodguy5060
    @goodguy50604 жыл бұрын

    I really liked the video. Thank!

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the love and support

  • @trueblu8
    @trueblu83 жыл бұрын

    Awesome aquascape! And awesome shrimp!

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for visiting

  • @rezaadi5225
    @rezaadi52254 жыл бұрын

    Finally you make the setup video..i'm waiting this for loooonngg time 🤣

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    thx so much!

  • @anthonymaynard8139
    @anthonymaynard81394 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thx so much for the support

  • @FridayFishFacts
    @FridayFishFacts4 жыл бұрын

    You do beautiful work

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thx for the support

  • @peterloo3136
    @peterloo3136 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent job! Deep substrate wins championships. ❤

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    Жыл бұрын

    Thx sir. I do thin these days

  • @cyrus5825
    @cyrus58252 жыл бұрын

    stunning tank ! it's like a part under the lake

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words. I can't wait to set up my next tank

  • @cyrus5825

    @cyrus5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages how about the tank now sir?

  • @ctophercs
    @ctophercs3 жыл бұрын

    Great video 👍

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thx so much

  • @didnthurt4077
    @didnthurt4077 Жыл бұрын

    My local shop just got them in and they are so awesome to watch! I so wanna setup a sulawesi tank, but it intimidates me to get them. They are a level higher than keeping caradina.

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    Жыл бұрын

    awesome you've got to give them a try

  • @Plants.and.shrimp
    @Plants.and.shrimp Жыл бұрын

    ❤❤❤

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    Жыл бұрын

    Thx thx

  • @ucetafe7703
    @ucetafe77032 жыл бұрын

    😍

  • @heyitsnovabound
    @heyitsnovabound4 жыл бұрын

    So I'm on well water and the ph is 8.0-8.2 out of the tap to begin with. I live in florida so the house is kept pretty warm before I factor in heaters, I'd like to try getting these dudes for my nano

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's pretty sweet parameters. Just double check before changing water would be my advice. Let me know how it goes

  • @dn7096_
    @dn7096_ Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Why do you mix the 8.5 with warm tap water to start?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah yes I do but the water in my area is tds 30 so similar to rodi water

  • @kyozanuro
    @kyozanuro3 жыл бұрын

    Hello, i love your video, one question is how to grow brown algae like yours? Is there any special about the rock?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just leave lights on 24 7 for a few days

  • @aquaticmaniac8979
    @aquaticmaniac89794 жыл бұрын

    Hey, I was wondering if I would be able to add a layer of sand with De-Nitrate covering it if that would be a good substrate for them?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep that will work as sand is inert

  • @Skysong84
    @Skysong844 жыл бұрын

    Great video! What are those beautiful red and yellow shrimp mixed with the cardinal sulawesi shrimp?? I've never seen them before!

  • @Chris18o0

    @Chris18o0

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yellow cheeks.

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes they are

  • @MeanOldLady
    @MeanOldLady16 күн бұрын

    I don't bother with the expensive substrates at all. I do natural tanks & let them cycle through the nitrate/ite & algae uglies to quickly build a stable ecosystem for the tank first. I put my critters in, even shrimp before fully cycling with no problems. If you're having to do regular water changes, something in the tank is harboring bad bacteria. If you want to avoid this altogether, all some pumice or gravel substrate & innoculate it with beneficial bacteria (bought or cultured) in water with a filter for a week before adding anything else.

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    16 күн бұрын

    Great method!!

  • @beththeobald7552
    @beththeobald75522 жыл бұрын

    Do you drain the eco complete or use the water that it comes in too ? Do you have an update on this tank? I’m torn between using eco complete or de nitrate!

  • @Alniemi

    @Alniemi

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don’t you love when a creator hearts your comment but doesn’t answer question? No offense creator but the best value is interact with the viewers

  • @helenritchie7802
    @helenritchie78023 жыл бұрын

    I 'm unable to get Salty Shrimp Sulawesi 8.5 so I bought the 7.5? Is this ok? I'm just starting to set up my tank and I want everything to be perfect x I have lava rock media for the base and larger pieces for decoration? RO water, Salty , and a good heater. I'm using a Hamburg Matten filter as I have a mature one already running in another tank. I think I have everything I need? Thank you for your video I really enjoyed it :(

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    I believe it will work. I had more success with 8.5 but lots of people I've chatted with uses 7.5 without issues

  • @bhugsick
    @bhugsick4 жыл бұрын

    wow nice setup, i also have my sulawesi tank. how do keep ur TDS low while having PH 8 above? mine is ranging 205-240tds. thanks

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    thanks, i just use saltyshrimp sulawesi 8.5 mix to around 130ppm and it ph will be above 8 hope that helps!

  • @goodguy5060
    @goodguy50604 жыл бұрын

    When evaporating water, add the osmosis or osmosis and salt?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rodi water to replace evaporated water

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    I use straight rodi now

  • @PoseidonsPets
    @PoseidonsPets Жыл бұрын

    Found an older video of yours 😊 starting my research into setting up a Sulawesi tank

  • @thedreadwolf1172
    @thedreadwolf11723 жыл бұрын

    Do the Cardinals and the other Sulawesi shrimp interbreed? I've been keeping Neocaradina for awhile now, and have recently come across these beauties. I've also found that they're possibly extinct in the wild, and wondered about breeding programs to help reintroduce them as well. Or at least keep them alive and well within the aquarium trade.

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    2 жыл бұрын

    They don't really interpreted but I heard they can

  • @DuckyFcuk
    @DuckyFcuk2 жыл бұрын

    I heard the eco complete black alters ph. How has this tank been doing and did you have any issues? I planned on making a 10g with just the eco complete so I want to be sure it won't kill my shrimp

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's doing well. It didn't affect the hardness or ph. A few friends use it also with success. Hope that helps

  • @Cory_Dora
    @Cory_Dora4 жыл бұрын

    I am setting up a siluwasi tank and I am new to them so I have a 10g tank that I layered in inert black sand and I am adding broken lava rock from my yard since its abundant here and very airy and holy. I dont plan to use RO water, but distilled water remineralized since an RO system is cumbersome for me. I am currently just aging the tank with tap water in front of a window with just a (soon to be added airstone). I also was considering breaking up a marimo ball and shoving it in a few of the holes in the rock. Of course, after the tank has greened up nicely, I am going to remove the tap water and replace it with the remineralized water and take that opportunity to practice keeping the water stable since this will be a major investment and I dont want to mess this up, Does it sound like I’m on the right path or an I looking forward to disaster? I expect the tank to be ready in about 6 months then I will add preseeded sponge filter from one of my other tanks and a heater. (I’ve also decided to use an HOB with a prefilter as well.) Any advice you have for me is truly appreciated. I watched your video and loved it! You gave me even more ideas about breaking up more rock and adding more height to the tank. (I should add that the tank will be moved away from the window before adding the shrimp. My tap water almost can handle these shrimp alone but it’s PH is just a little too low at 7.5 but comes out the tap at 160-180 tds so these shrimp feel more comfortable for me, unlike caradina, which is a huge swing the other direction. Even my tap hardness comes in at siluwasi comfort levels. I think this is the only time I wish my water was just a bit harder, lol.)

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    slow reply, but that'll work for sure!

  • @NasiKeledek
    @NasiKeledek3 жыл бұрын

    Hi i love your videos, i am planning to start on a sulawesi tank but im using Seiryu and ADA Amazonia substrate my readings right now before adding minerals are.. TDS 175 GH 4 KH 2 Do i look at TDS or to actually follow GH and KH?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi bro. Thx for the support. Gh and kh is the proper way to do it. Tds is faster and shortcut once you know the relationship. I wish u success bro. Keep us updated

  • @NasiKeledek

    @NasiKeledek

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages So does it mean that TDS can go higher than 200? because its kinda hard to look at TDS..whatever you feed in the water it will rise up, btw does Sulawesi shrimp go along with small fishes?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NasiKeledek for sure bro. Best is gh and kh for more accuracy. Tds is just a quick check for me

  • @jakeroy6437
    @jakeroy64374 жыл бұрын

    I thought they were considered brackish shrimp needing salt in the water but now I’m being told they are completely freshwater I have a 20 long that has been set up for 2 years now and all I have in it are some cherry shrimp but I’ve always wanted these shrimp. I have harder water where I live do you think I can by with a tds In the higher 200s or no

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    what a great question, tds is often a mis conception as what's in the 200ppm tds? i keep mine at ph 8.1, tds 130, gh around 6 kh around 3. those would be the ideal parameters for sulawesi shrimps. also temp of 28C or 84F, so it depends what the 200ppm tds consists of, the idea way would be to use rodi water start from 0 then add the remineralize salts to get you to the parameters closest to their wild or home bred parameters hope that helps

  • @jakeroy6437

    @jakeroy6437

    4 жыл бұрын

    RW Aquarium Pages thank you for responding I hope you and your family enjoy a safe and wonderful holiday.

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jakeroy6437 oh didn't answer your original question. They're not brackish, but require specific parameters close to their natural lakes. Merry Christmas to you also!

  • @Loukisi90
    @Loukisi904 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I would like to ask if is possible to use tap water? I do not have access to ROA water. Is it possible to use SaltyShrimp to get the correct PH to tap water?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    Depends on your tap water. Best to use rodi

  • @Loukisi90

    @Loukisi90

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages Can i use distilled water instead and reminalize it?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Loukisi90 thx thx. Yes that will work as long as base is around 0 ppm tds

  • @Loukisi90

    @Loukisi90

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Do you also use distilled water for the water changes every time?

  • @MikeJones-bs5xh
    @MikeJones-bs5xh Жыл бұрын

    wouldnt the rocks u put in raise the tds? i was told to use large lava or dragon stone

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    Жыл бұрын

    These are inert rocks. Dragon stone is quite soft and can increase gh

  • @chevyfish4028
    @chevyfish40283 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your experiences and knowledge. Beautiful shrimp.

  • @karenvasquez4648
    @karenvasquez46483 жыл бұрын

    Did you rinse the eco-complete?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    i usually don't

  • @evilkramer
    @evilkramer Жыл бұрын

    Is ecocomplete black essentially very fine lava rock? That’s what it seems like looking around about it, but I haven’t purchased any myself to see. How does it compare price-wise compared to regular larger lava rock, as well?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep it's pretty much the same. Locally in my area I cannot get crushed black lava rock but eco complete is everywhere even on Amazon. Hope yhag helps

  • @evilkramer

    @evilkramer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages thanks!

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    Жыл бұрын

    @@evilkramer thanks for your wonderful question

  • @uname0x96
    @uname0x962 жыл бұрын

    Can you share your watter parametter?

  • @user-bv6jz3nf4w
    @user-bv6jz3nf4w3 жыл бұрын

    I am planning to have a Cardinal tank. Do you recommend a dark or white substrate? What are the pros and cons?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have tried both and prefer dark as the colors stand out more. As long as it's inert it'll be good either way. Its more for astethics

  • @user-bv6jz3nf4w

    @user-bv6jz3nf4w

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages But do you believe it objectively changes the color of the shrimps, or is it more about contrast? Because the shrimp is dark-red so maybe a white substrate would have a better contrast.

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-bv6jz3nf4w my theory is lighter substrate reflects light and darker provides shrimp with better hiding colors. So since they are not as scared their colors will also intensify as they feel safer

  • @igustimadesudiksu7798
    @igustimadesudiksu7798 Жыл бұрын

    Is it necessary to use Sulawesi mineral 8.5 or any shrimp salt? Couldn't find any shrimp salt in the local shop and online shop and if I have to import one the tax will be super high. Do you have any alternatives?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    Жыл бұрын

    I've been testing seachem tangayiki salts and thru bring the ph up pretty well also. Shrimp king makes a sulawesi salt also

  • @debrapage582
    @debrapage5823 жыл бұрын

    Can you tell me please if these shrimp need calcium to help them moult like cherry shrimp. Thanks

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    yep they do, i use mikroneukton poweder for ease e

  • @nadiet90
    @nadiet903 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ray I'm using shrimp king saluwesi. Do u think Salty shrimp 8.5 is significantly better? Wonder if I should invest in it

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are all basically the same. No need to change

  • @nadiet90

    @nadiet90

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @debrapage582
    @debrapage5823 жыл бұрын

    what is the highest tds they can have. It's difficult to keep it low with a ph of 8. thanks

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you use saltyshrimp sulawesi 8 5 its doable. It depends on your source. If its from the wild its around tds 100. Nit I've kept it at 150 and theh still bred for me

  • @debrapage582

    @debrapage582

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages Thank you going to give it a go

  • @didnthurt4077
    @didnthurt4077 Жыл бұрын

    Do you think sharp edges from the lava stones could harm the sulawesi shrimps? I broke a gew large stones into small pieces and worried they could cut themselves. On the other hand, maybe after biofilm and algae has grown on them it might be less harmful? Thanks!

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    Жыл бұрын

    I had to thunk about this for a little but. I personally don't think the edges would harm them. Compared to large fish with fleshy areas if they crash into it. I haven't seen any issues myself so far

  • @didnthurt4077

    @didnthurt4077

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages corydoras for example need gravel/sand without sharp edges, thats why i was thinking it might be harmful for sulas since they on the rocks most of the time. When i was breaking the stones yesterday into smaller 2-4cm pieces, i could really feel the sharpness. Will give it a try and be on the lookout just in case. Thanks!

  • @emmanuelramoncerrer6390
    @emmanuelramoncerrer63904 жыл бұрын

    Won't the neocaridina shrimp stress out and prevent the sulawesi shrimps from proliferating at their normal rate?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    Great question and highly debated topic. Neocaridina can accept a wide range In my sulawesi tanks they do fine and also breed But mine are homebred bloody mary. If theres too many neos just pull them out if they start to out compete the sulawesi shrimps for food

  • @emmanuelramoncerrer6390

    @emmanuelramoncerrer6390

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages Would sulawesi snails be an acceptable alternative to Neocaridina shrimp?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@emmanuelramoncerrer6390 yes for sure

  • @jomngail6176
    @jomngail61762 жыл бұрын

    Doo you measure the exact Gh and Kh in your tank ? Coz TDS doesnt mean much in shrimp keeping u know..

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    2 жыл бұрын

    True. But chasing numbers can be dangerous. That's why I use tds to get an approx value. As long as it's within range and stable it's all good

  • @jomngail6176

    @jomngail6176

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages honestly idk if that works..but if your shrimp is still doing good i guess there should be no problem..i'm telling you that coz i currently try to keep sulawesi..dissolving the salts was a real challenge as i dont have a co2 that is prescribed, and the TDS pen that i have i am not sure if its accurate or not..so i put the salts in microwave for couple minute and it seems to be dissolve..right now i got about 5kH, 6dGh and 190 TDS value..still wait for a couple day before i add my shrimp..wish me luck

  • @JradIronman
    @JradIronman4 жыл бұрын

    What pH, gH, kH, and TDS do you keep you cardinals at?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    ph 8.1, gh 5, kh 2, tds 125

  • @JradIronman

    @JradIronman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @HbbH38

    @HbbH38

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages Hi. Can I assume that you get those parameters from the Salty Shrimp 8.5 with RODI only? Thanks!

  • @karenvasquez4648
    @karenvasquez46483 жыл бұрын

    Hi! Do the sulawesi shrimp prefer the seachem denitrate or the eco-complete subatrate?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    In my experience both works my frined

  • @karenvasquez4648

    @karenvasquez4648

    3 жыл бұрын

    RW Aquarium Pages ok thanks!

  • @RaymondWong2k

    @RaymondWong2k

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@karenvasquez4648 but i find dark substrate the shrimps colour stands out better, maybe because dark substrate contrasts better

  • @karenvasquez4648

    @karenvasquez4648

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ray Wong I’m using a 10 gallon tank do you think I still need to put the black lava rock under the eco-complete? I found some maten stone to buy but I have some maple leaf stone. Do you know if maple leaf stone is inert?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@karenvasquez4648 10 g should be ok with a thin layer of substrate is best i find these days

  • @raagm79
    @raagm794 жыл бұрын

    Hi, can I use JBL PROSCAPE VOLCANO MINERAL as substrate ?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    yes you can for sure!

  • @raagm79

    @raagm79

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages Thanks for ur response. But Is this substrate completely inert and does not affect GH/KH or TDS. Response from JBL customer support was unclear. I wanted to use this substrate for sulawesi tank.

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@raagm79 from my last few tests it was, but you can give it a try and let us know the response!

  • @raagm79

    @raagm79

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages Sure. Do u use any moss in your Sulawesi tanks ?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@raagm79 i try not to use any plants in my sulawesi aquariums :)

  • @reneeturcottecicigoi9435
    @reneeturcottecicigoi94354 жыл бұрын

    Ray do you sell your shrimp? 😊

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes mam

  • @v050577
    @v0505772 жыл бұрын

    How do you prevent the growth of 'blue-green algae' (cyanobacteria) when you grow 'green algae' (chlorophyta?) and diatoms?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    2 жыл бұрын

    They are two different things. Blue green is a bacteria not an algae. Make sure there is enough water flow abd nutrients are in balance and ensure that plants or rocks you introduce are clean and free of blue green spores

  • @robinsonsitompul9362
    @robinsonsitompul93623 жыл бұрын

    What's ur shrimp tank size in centimeters?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    90x45x45 cm

  • @robinsonsitompul9362

    @robinsonsitompul9362

    3 жыл бұрын

    What is ur caridina tank size?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robinsonsitompul9362 30cm cube bro

  • @robinsonsitompul9362

    @robinsonsitompul9362

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RWAquariumPages thx for replying... One more question is it true the height of tank also effect the balance parameter of the water... I also use canister filter in my caridina and the flow is too high is it good for caridina shrimp? should I use it occasionally or put it on every time ?

  • @RWAquariumPages

    @RWAquariumPages

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robinsonsitompul9362 good question one of my expert breeder sheimp friends like lots of flow. I'm more medium flow type of guy. In wild they do come from fast flowing streams

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