Suikoden II | Retrospective Review

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Today I'm taking a look at Suikoden 2, Konami's classic RPG released on the PlayStation in 1999. For many years it has been commonly believed that the story for Suikoden 2 was actually written before the first game, but after finding conflicting accounts regarding this rumor, I decided to reach out to Yoshitaka Murayama (the series creator) to get some clarification on this point. Not only did he set the record straight, but provided some other great insight into how Suikoden 2 was made.
HUGE thank you to ZenmenZ for translating my emails with Mr. Murayama, and to Hian for helping me find his contact info as well as providing feedback on translations. This video would not have been possible without them.
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Sources:
1. Emails With Mr. Murayama: docs.google.com/document/d/1T...
2. Game Informer Article: www.gameinformer.com/b/featur...
3. NeoGaf Forum: www.neogaf.com/threads/why-is...
4. The Untold History Of Japanese Game Developers: www.amazon.com/Untold-History...
5. Suikoden Revival Movement Interview #1: / 966367783459406
6. Suikoden Revival Movement Interview #2: / 619511931478328
7. Miki Higashino Profile: www.vgmonline.net/mikihigashino/
8. Miki Higashino Interview #1: web.archive.org/web/200809020...
9. Miki Higashino Interview #2: www.vgmonline.net/mikihigashin...
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  • @ResonantArc
    @ResonantArc4 жыл бұрын

    I just want to say thank you again to ZenmenZ for translating my emails with Mr. Murayama, and Hian for helping me get in contact with him. This video contains info on Suikoden 2's development that has never been seen before, so if you found it insightful please share and spread the word! Also, I have provided my sources in the video description, so if you'd like to read Mr. Murayama's response for yourself feel free to do so. Thanks for watching everyone!

  • @enjirube1

    @enjirube1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Resonant Arc great video and research! I would be interested to ask Muruyama San a hypothetical question as to what he would do if he could reboot the series and perhaps create a story that builds on Suikoden 1 and 2 and their worlds rather than moving it to a new area as he did with 3.

  • @thefrozengoat

    @thefrozengoat

    4 жыл бұрын

    what an awesome contribution to game history - thank you! I loved this game when I was younger, but I was so young that I don't remember much of it. I am going to give it another spin now.

  • @jdtug8251

    @jdtug8251

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am amazed that you would put such a quality review with exclusive content for us fans out there where you yourself originally struggled to see what makes this game so special for us, from what I can see in your community feed. Mad props to you mate!

  • @Handsomeartist

    @Handsomeartist

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is unbelivable! Thank you for all this hard work it is very appreciate!

  • @josephmarino310

    @josephmarino310

    4 жыл бұрын

    What is your thoughts on prince of persia 2008?

  • @chrisjones4771
    @chrisjones47715 ай бұрын

    That line about shaving years off his life hurts more than ever today. RIP Muriyama san and thank you for these classics.

  • @hemangchauhan2864
    @hemangchauhan28644 жыл бұрын

    You actually went ahead and asked Muriyama and dispelled any rumors or false info. That's why any Resonant Arc review are worth the wait. Great work!

  • @acidwizard6528

    @acidwizard6528

    4 жыл бұрын

    These guys are serious about their RPG fandom and it shows. I wish they were able to make more frequent videos like they did in the past, but I'm sure there's a good reason for the slowdown in new content.

  • @TakeShinoh

    @TakeShinoh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, if you didn't know, Murayama-san and his team are developing a spiritual successor of Suikoden II, go check Eiyuden Chronicles on Kickstarter ! ;) www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205

    @fernandozavaletabustos205

    Жыл бұрын

    FYI: Suikoden 1 & 2 are getting a remaster!

  • @gacktsan1
    @gacktsan15 ай бұрын

    RIP Murayama an absolut legend and you Will be missed 😢

  • @mahikomajickku
    @mahikomajickku5 ай бұрын

    Sayonara Murayama san~ We are grateful for your creation of the best JPRG we played!

  • @cronoesify
    @cronoesify4 жыл бұрын

    Reaching out to the man himself to get answers on such a gem? Holy shit, dude. It drives me crazy how good you have been, and continue to grow and get better. Digging deeper, asking the questions, and producing top quality, in depth vids year after year. You guys keep rocking.

  • @ResonantArc

    @ResonantArc

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, cronoesify! It means a lot when people take the time to reach out. Glad you are enjoying the videos.

  • @ijbakhtawar2696

    @ijbakhtawar2696

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ResonantArc resonant arc that is really awesome that they replied and answered, I know some japanese and wish I had a chance to do some work with you guys

  • @TakeShinoh

    @TakeShinoh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, if you didn't know, Murayama-san and his team are developing a spiritual successor of Suikoden II, go check Eiyuden Chronicles on Kickstarter ! ;) www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205

    @fernandozavaletabustos205

    Жыл бұрын

    FYI: Suikoden 1 & 2 are getting a remaster!

  • @dutchchairman
    @dutchchairman4 жыл бұрын

    Every few years when I'm feeling down, I pop in this game and spend maybe a week in it, going from start to finish. Finding all the stars, shedding tears at the same scene's, releasing a lot of anger at other scene's (screw you Gorudo) and at the end, I just feel better, like something heavy has been lifted from me.

  • @Almedan2011

    @Almedan2011

    4 жыл бұрын

    I do the same propably played it about 22 times so far and still get the same joy every time

  • @rickzantua7

    @rickzantua7

    4 жыл бұрын

    I can no longer count how many times I have played this game. This is also my very gateway into the world of RPG.

  • @mo_musashi_284

    @mo_musashi_284

    4 жыл бұрын

    DutchChairMan very cool , I going to play through Suikoden and Suikoden 2 again soon.

  • @StargazingCeres

    @StargazingCeres

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's been 20 years now and that one Nanami scene hit me just as hard on my playthrough a few months ago as it did back then, even knowing how it all works out. Truly one of my favorite RPGs of all time.

  • @OoogaBoog

    @OoogaBoog

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rickzantua7 Holy crap....the game is awesome enough, but Suikoden II was your entry into RPGs?!? Dude....you're screwed. Nothing will compare.

  • @LICOnlineteach
    @LICOnlineteach4 жыл бұрын

    no game in our current time has ever came close to my heart other than suikoden 2... gosh I miss this game

  • @JanSuing

    @JanSuing

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same.

  • @TakeShinoh

    @TakeShinoh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, if you didn't know, Murayama-san and his team are developing a spiritual successor of Suikoden II, go check Eiyuden Chronicles on Kickstarter ! ;) www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description

  • @Daniel-Unmeiten

    @Daniel-Unmeiten

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same...i learned SOOO much from the game...cheesy but, is not a game anymore, is a part of me. I still playing it and always will.. (and even tho i keep telling myself to play more with different characters, i end up with the same party: nanami (sierra/ayda/ellie/tomo or tengaar), millie, mcdohl, camus and miklotov :V

  • @sunrevolver

    @sunrevolver

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now I'm replaying this game in emulator.. Along with Chrono Trigger..

  • @rabbyd542

    @rabbyd542

    3 жыл бұрын

    DQ 11 was up there for me

  • @Kris95x
    @Kris95x4 жыл бұрын

    Here after Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes has been announced. Literally the new Suikoden! ❤️

  • @1RacerXer

    @1RacerXer

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lets hope anyways! 🤞

  • @SoggyShmuffin

    @SoggyShmuffin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Newkoden

  • @48cxy2

    @48cxy2

    3 жыл бұрын

    WHAT!?

  • @Kris95x

    @Kris95x

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@48cxy2 Yesss It's true! Google it! :) Coming out October 2022!

  • @48cxy2

    @48cxy2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Kris95x YES!!! Looking forward to it in 2022🤩

  • @bennybeck
    @bennybeck4 жыл бұрын

    This game probably has the best sprite animations I’ve ever seen in a 2d game

  • @AppericateGamer

    @AppericateGamer

    4 жыл бұрын

    I do like look of legend of mana, ff6 and breath of fire 3 and 4 sprite animation in JRPG

  • @nakedbeekeeper9610

    @nakedbeekeeper9610

    4 жыл бұрын

    Indeed it's an easy contender, along with the SNK classics.

  • @khdayskh1314

    @khdayskh1314

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mother 3 is also a gem

  • @Tenpouin

    @Tenpouin

    4 жыл бұрын

    It did impress the hell out of me back then as well. Picked the game totally at random

  • @Guts_Brando

    @Guts_Brando

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sotn, blasphemous

  • @kelvinlee8919
    @kelvinlee89194 жыл бұрын

    Even Luca Blight himself cannot unlike this video.

  • @nakedbeekeeper9610
    @nakedbeekeeper96104 жыл бұрын

    Ah, the good old days when the Konami logo was a seal of quality. I remember picking up games based on that logo alone, and I was never disappointed.

  • @ResonantArc

    @ResonantArc

    4 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/jGp_ltF6lqufcZc.html

  • @1989Zealot

    @1989Zealot

    4 жыл бұрын

    Suikoden and Vandel Hearts greatest games of all time.

  • @rabbyd542

    @rabbyd542

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't Azure Dreams also Konami?

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205

    @fernandozavaletabustos205

    Жыл бұрын

    FYI: Suikoden 1 & 2 are getting a remaster!

  • @ericschauer5950

    @ericschauer5950

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rabbyd542 pretty sure it was boy I miss Azure dreams alot these days

  • @rjricasata6214
    @rjricasata62144 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the Suikoden content, this is still one of my favorite RPGs of all time.

  • @profoundpro
    @profoundpro4 жыл бұрын

    That battle with Luca is one of the greatest boss fights of all time. When I think of villians that I loved to hate, Luca is the first one that pops in my head. "Die, pig!"

  • @ResonantArc

    @ResonantArc

    4 жыл бұрын

    Loved that sequence. Amazing boss fight.

  • @retrogeneric5687

    @retrogeneric5687

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. I'm sometimes baffled why they placed such an epic battle and luca's death halfway through the game, but at the end of the day it worked just fine

  • @galihjati443

    @galihjati443

    4 жыл бұрын

    I still hate that guy.......

  • @cedric7751

    @cedric7751

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@galihjati443 Luca's backstory is actually a very tragic one. When he was young, he, his father and his mother got captured by ruffians of the state. His father used Luca and his wife as baits to escape alone, leaving his wife and child behind. Luca was beat up by the ruffians and his mother was raped in front of him before being rescued by Han Cunningham. Julia's birth is the result of the rape of Luca's mother, who committed suicide soon after giving birth. This was explained in one of the suikoden books (only available in Japanese) and i think it was also mentioned in one of the Suikoden gaiden.

  • @michaeldychiao13

    @michaeldychiao13

    4 жыл бұрын

    Luca Blight is definitely a horrible person, but, in the end he ended up a pawn in Jowy and Leon Silverburg's bid for power. Although Luca is the obvious foil, Jowy I find is incredibly compelling as a villain. He's you on a different albeit more ruthless path.

  • @hian
    @hian4 жыл бұрын

    Knocked it out of the park. I think every retrospective you make manage to capture the melancholia of returning to stories that have impacted us deeply, and therein lies their greatest value. Once you've experienced a great story you can never truly get back your virgin response to it - the teacup is broken and you can't will it back together again. That being said, your reviews draws out and condense the core of those emotions, and allow me to remember the older me. They're a shortcut to the payoffs stored in my memories, with a side-dish of additional insights or perspectives that add new layers of appreciation to those cherrished memories. For that, I'll always be grateful. Never stop doing what you do, for you do it excellently.

  • @Cordellium
    @Cordellium4 жыл бұрын

    This was such a thoughtful review with more details and information brought to light than any other on Suikoden II that I've heard. Thank you for making this video Resonant and the others involved. Truly a wonderful reflection on this classic.

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205

    @fernandozavaletabustos205

    Жыл бұрын

    FYI: Suikoden 1 & 2 are getting a remaster!

  • @JanSuing
    @JanSuing4 жыл бұрын

    I can't help but feel sentimental each time someone talks about Suikoden II. It is such an important part of my teenage years. I will never forget it ever. One of the greatest games of all time.

  • @user-zr8tf5ze2r

    @user-zr8tf5ze2r

    4 жыл бұрын

    I played it this year for the first time on psvita. So beautiful game. It has the magic of nostalgia. The best rpg i have ever played.

  • @TakeShinoh

    @TakeShinoh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, if you didn't know, Murayama-san and his team are developing a spiritual successor of Suikoden II, go check Eiyuden Chronicles on Kickstarter ! ;) www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description

  • @Zealyx

    @Zealyx

    3 ай бұрын

    Agreed! I had just started high school the month it released August 1999. I was busy with football and marching band so it took 14yr old me until almost November to earn enough money to buy it and FFVIII. $39.96 at the local Walmart and $14.95 for the strategy guide, some of the best spent money I have ever earned, and I absolutely fell in love with everything about it from story and gameplay to the epic musical score. In fact, I loved the music so much (and this is 99-00 mind you, I begged my parents to buy the import soundtrack of it and Chrono Cross for Christmas. They were so expensive, that I could only get Vol. 1 and I couldn't read a thing on the CD case, but it played just fine. I look up the going rate for Suikoden II and the strat guide from time to time, and I am very grateful I worked my teenager ass cutting firewood to get it like I had Suikoden I at the very beginning. It's in my Mt. Rushmore of video games always nand forever.

  • @faidou9954
    @faidou99544 жыл бұрын

    Still sucks that we might never get RPGs like this anymore...

  • @nakedbeekeeper9610

    @nakedbeekeeper9610

    4 жыл бұрын

    yep. Never again. Closest experience I can think of is Nier - not exactly and rpg - on Ps3 but it's still leaps and bounds behind in terms of scale and intensity. (and I played Automata, Eternal Sonata, Tales series, Xenoblade series, and the last two Dragon Quests )

  • @mogwai_for_sale

    @mogwai_for_sale

    4 жыл бұрын

    thankfully we already have more jrpgs like this than you could ever complete in a lifetime... the snes/ps1/ps2/psp/ds and to a lesser extent vita/3ds have TONS of quality jrpgs that you can play... and they are better than anything (from the genre) that has come out in the ps3/ps4 era for the most part. so what does it matter if we don't get games like suikoden 2 anymore? there are at least 200+ quality jrpgs waiting to be played but i doubt you have the time anyways :D

  • @faidou9954

    @faidou9954

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mogwai_for_sale well, Trails of Cold Steel does have Suikoden vibes.

  • @mogwai_for_sale

    @mogwai_for_sale

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@faidou9954 personally, i have given up on moden jrpgs since they don't appeal to me... there are a few exceptions such as persona 5 etc... but generally speaking, i play jrpgs from the the period prior to the ps3 era (as that is when they started to go downhill in more ways than one). what i miss most about "clssic" jrpg's though is the mature storytelling and quality music... that has greatly been lost with modern jrpg's, especially when it comes to the generic anime tropes and pedestrian writing. it is as lazy as it gets. again, there are a few exceptions to this critcism i am making, but you can clearly see a dip in quality beginning in the ps2 era when it comes to home console jrpg's... most of the good ones made their way to handhelds before eventually falling by the wayside -- we got an onslaught of games from the tales series in addition to smaller budget jrpg's that pander to anime fans first and foremost. even though i consider myself an anime fan, the stories we typically get in jrpg's today is "bad" anime with little to no redeeming qualities.

  • @hian

    @hian

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mogwai_for_sale There's a theory I hear kicked around here in Japan a lot which is an idea of "storytelling entropy". Simply put, the reason you see this weird decline into a kind of compounded or crystallized form of "anime trope writing" is because when the medium was young you had young hopefully storytellers taking inspiration largely from the movies, books and bed-time stories they grew up with (IE storytelling backed by some level of media and art literacy), you now get content creators tracing those works again rather than the source, which not only slowly "fades the print" as it were, but centralizes the stories around a few concepts and tropes that have proven successful. It's like feeding a drawing through a copy machine, then copying the copy, then copying the copy of the copy etc. Ultimately, the nuances and finer details are lost, and only the blurred outline and the strongest colours remain. A work like Xenogears was based in a lot of literary, academic and religious works. Now imagine copying Xenogears without knowing those works, and then somebody else copying that again. It's bound to lose both essence and quality over time.

  • @nakedbeekeeper9610
    @nakedbeekeeper96104 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this retrospective it brought up so many warm memories of my teenage years. Hearing that orchestral intro and seeing part of that fmv brought tears to my eyes.

  • @mo_musashi_284
    @mo_musashi_2844 жыл бұрын

    There should be a forum or something to let the Suikoden 2 staff know how you feel about this masterpiece and tell them your appreciation on their hard work.

  • @hupyrbyut4746
    @hupyrbyut47464 жыл бұрын

    Resonant Arc, thank you for such wonderful content. I love these mini-doc reviews. You do a fantastic job. Keep it up!

  • @garrtrigger
    @garrtrigger4 жыл бұрын

    This game was my childhood. Helped me survive years of bullying and solitude. Hope it makes a comeback soon!

  • @matinazadeh6870

    @matinazadeh6870

    4 жыл бұрын

    We're with you mate

  • @tazmanceltic

    @tazmanceltic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@matinazadeh6870 the community on this channel is amazing

  • @michellekristolia3758
    @michellekristolia37584 жыл бұрын

    I'm really happy to see more people playing and talking about this specific title.. I get goosebumps whenever I remember a scene of it, it really touched my heart and I simply cannot change it's position as my top #1 jrpg no matter how many games i played afterwards

  • @TakeShinoh

    @TakeShinoh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, if you didn't know, Murayama-san and his team are developing a spiritual successor of Suikoden II, go check Eiyuden Chronicles on Kickstarter ! ;) www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description

  • @jagatheeldest5786

    @jagatheeldest5786

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've been retro gaming since the lockdown...playing classics I missed over the years. This game by far has been my greatest find. Absolutely amazing title. Omega Army for life!

  • @Kamuyy
    @Kamuyy4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video. You always put well-researched and well-edited videos and to have one on my favorite game of all time is amazing. I learned a lot of new information and getting some info about Miki Higashino’s music made me love the OST even more. It was in your Suikoden 1 video where you talked about a piece of music, that when heard, can transport people into a certain place and time, and Suikoden 2’s music does that for me. It really is one of my favorite soundtracks up to today.

  • @Vanz_games
    @Vanz_games4 жыл бұрын

    This has to be the most in depth review I've ever seen, and the fact that it's about my favorite game of all times makes me extremely happy. Thank you for putting so much effort Mike, Resonant Arc keeps on delivering the best content to date in terms of breaking down story based media. You guys rock!

  • @Uaitdevil
    @Uaitdevil4 жыл бұрын

    i can't deny that seeing characters, hearing music and remembering parts from the story made me tear up a bit. i played tons and tons of rpgs, but, oh boy... suikoden 2 was so good that everytime i think about it, i'd really want to hug every one of the developers involved, in particular to Higashino-san

  • @Bacher108
    @Bacher1084 жыл бұрын

    This is a great video. Well done. I will always remember this game because of my best friend who is no longer with us. We loved to play JRPG's together, sometimes with 2 TV's in the same room. Suikoden 2 was probably his favorite and I remember looking over at his screen while he was in a major battle or an epic scene. Such fond memories. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

  • @thoseshitufind9256
    @thoseshitufind92564 жыл бұрын

    Im so glad & blessed to have come across this channel. Your choice of words and the way you reviewed those games are......insanely well structured & beautifully presented. good job.

  • @edcap8029
    @edcap80294 жыл бұрын

    Miki Higashino's composition is one of my fave. I often play the game in an emulator just to hear the soundtrack. The Greenhill theme is my fave, and Neclord's theme a very close second. :)

  • @PratzStrike
    @PratzStrike4 жыл бұрын

    This game is still the gold standard for JRPGs for me. Nothing else has ever come close. In a time period where when I said 'RPG' people thought I was thinking of Final Fantasy, or even Breath of Fire or possibly even Dragon Quest, Suikoden II was always on the tip of my tongue.

  • @Alhapra

    @Alhapra

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's so underrated 😢

  • @tylerclark7787

    @tylerclark7787

    4 жыл бұрын

    To be fair games like Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Phantasy Star etc, are the reason Suikoden exists.

  • @TakeShinoh

    @TakeShinoh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, if you didn't know, Murayama-san and his team are developing a spiritual successor of Suikoden II, go check Eiyuden Chronicles on Kickstarter ! ;) www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description

  • @rjsmangitruns
    @rjsmangitruns4 жыл бұрын

    This is the first review I've ever watched from you and I'm blown away. I'll definitely be looking into more of your reviews. Amazing work!

  • @robthebobz
    @robthebobz4 жыл бұрын

    God I love the Suikoden games. I remember reading about the 1st in CVG magazine before it was released, then buying it straight away on release. I loved it so much, and immediately got Suikoden 2 when that was released. Being in the UK we missed out on 3, even though I imported the US edition and tried fruitlessly to get it to play on my pal ps2 to no avail. I bought 4, 5 and Tactics too when they were released. I still have my collection, even though its worth alot of money it's worth so much more to me, so I wouldn't sell it. Parts 1 & 2 are without a doubt my favourites, the music, the characters, the lore, the story, the gameplay just all came together. Suikoden remains to this day my favourite game of all time - I don't think it will ever change. I love watching videos about the games, thank you so much for this insightful review.

  • @ronniechan8035
    @ronniechan80354 жыл бұрын

    you did a great job on doing a review for this massively underrated but so beautiful game. it's the game that will makes you feel and experience everything that the rpg can offer before. this is my first ps1 game and probably the best for me.

  • @kharismas6825
    @kharismas68254 жыл бұрын

    This rpg is timeless. I loved it in the past, I love it now, and I'll love it in the future.

  • @the8wave
    @the8wave4 жыл бұрын

    I’d just like to say how clear it is of how much work you put into these Retrospect videos and how enjoyable and informative they are. Honestly it reminds me of ClanOftheGrayWolf’s 16 bit gems (quite an old video series). Good job

  • @davidemanrus4582
    @davidemanrus45824 жыл бұрын

    Always look forward to these reviews!

  • @djblaklite
    @djblaklite4 жыл бұрын

    your videos are crafted in excellence good sir. i love them all.

  • @FerreroMan
    @FerreroMan4 жыл бұрын

    I played this game in 2009, I was 17 and I absolutely loved every bit of it, my favorite RPG ever!

  • @JustADancerOnFire
    @JustADancerOnFire4 жыл бұрын

    Holy Moly Mike! Thanks for such a strong retrospective on the game. Always love the content!

  • @gregr28
    @gregr284 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this retrospective and the interviews on the greatest JRPG ever made. That was some great knowledge to get!

  • @Cecilkw
    @Cecilkw4 жыл бұрын

    I have played a lot of games in my life. This is the best game I have ever played in my life. My favorite.

  • @Jimmy-ph8xn
    @Jimmy-ph8xn4 жыл бұрын

    Hearing this music again stirs many memories for me. I found the story to be quite an adventure and heart wrenching the first time I played it in my youth. It pains me now to know that some of the creators suffered so greatly to produce something so beautiful.

  • @Cincelia
    @Cincelia4 жыл бұрын

    this is a fantastic video and all the work and effort in actually asking Muriyama that went into it this is so impressiv, I love this so much

  • @xainudin108
    @xainudin1084 ай бұрын

    Great video! Suikoden II holds a special place in my heart, and your retrospective review captured the essence of the game beautifully. It's fascinating to learn about the origins of the story and how it ties into the overall experience. Keep up the fantastic work, looking forward to more content like this from you!

  • @1DarkCloud1
    @1DarkCloud14 жыл бұрын

    We are getting a final fantasy 7 remake after so many years of praying. Now it’s time for a new Suikoden game! Absolute masterpiece!

  • @TakeShinoh

    @TakeShinoh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, if you didn't know, Murayama-san and his team are developing a spiritual successor of Suikoden II, go check Eiyuden Chronicles on Kickstarter ! ;) www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description

  • @farhanmuzaki6364
    @farhanmuzaki63644 жыл бұрын

    Why there is tear in my eyes? Damn its so f touching

  • @Ruko
    @Ruko4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent work guys, this Retrospectives are always so well made. Props for actually contacting Murayama to clear out those rumors. Btw seeing the spritework again i really wish we could've gotten a FF like this back then, like maybe VII and then do the switch for VIII.

  • @jony2786
    @jony27864 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! The insights into the effort on the story, character development and soundtrack are invaluable.

  • @Namorat
    @Namorat4 жыл бұрын

    Man, I love this game... Got one of my tattoos from this series and I met some awesome people thanks to it.

  • @lionheart2639
    @lionheart26394 жыл бұрын

    Man that final image really hits you how jowy is waiting for you. I would much prefer the one where the 3 of them set off on a journey but jowy image is powerfully enough to make a person feel nostalgic and sad

  • @zeldrich
    @zeldrich4 жыл бұрын

    Amazing content as always! like the underappreciated composer of suikoden 2 i feel like your reviews don't get the attention they deserve. It's really obvious how much work is put into your videos. Love your content! Keep it up.

  • @TheSpectacledOwl
    @TheSpectacledOwl4 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic episode. The effort and quality you put into your videos is more than admirable - they are a breath of fresh air, especially in today’s world. Kudos.

  • @FilmonGEMZ
    @FilmonGEMZ Жыл бұрын

    Who's here because of the ReMaster Announcement?!

  • @TowerBooks3192
    @TowerBooks31924 жыл бұрын

    Best game ever. That Luca Blight fight was intense. I just wish Konami will rerelease the series on the Switch.

  • @Kanoa99
    @Kanoa994 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the nostalgia fix, I get goosebumps whenever a piece of ost begins throughout the video, tonight's gonna be a good night sleep :)

  • @MooseheadStudios
    @MooseheadStudios4 жыл бұрын

    Great vid. A wonderful game in every way. The music still gives chills.

  • @renancza
    @renancza4 жыл бұрын

    I am a massage therapist, and one of my relaxation playlists has some of the music from this game.

  • @kelvinlee8919

    @kelvinlee8919

    4 жыл бұрын

    well.. good choice!

  • @alvinchua6284

    @alvinchua6284

    4 жыл бұрын

    You have great taste.👍

  • @rabbyd542

    @rabbyd542

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's really cool

  • @chietattoos
    @chietattoos4 жыл бұрын

    A REMAKE THAT EVERY 90'S GAMER NEED!

  • @23Scadu

    @23Scadu

    4 жыл бұрын

    What would be the point of a remake? Suikoden II is pretty much perfect as it is. I certainly wouldn't want it in 3D, and higher resolution graphics would add nothing of value. Maybe a touch-up on the translation, but that's it.

  • @TakeShinoh

    @TakeShinoh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, if you didn't know, Murayama-san and his team are developing a spiritual successor of Suikoden II, go check Eiyuden Chronicles on Kickstarter ! ;) www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description

  • @caaltaes732

    @caaltaes732

    4 жыл бұрын

    A collection would be better

  • @rockk9753

    @rockk9753

    3 жыл бұрын

    I want an ogre battle remake

  • @sunrevolver

    @sunrevolver

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I too would love to have Suikoden remake.. Another would be Chrono Trigger..

  • @didgeridont4918
    @didgeridont49184 жыл бұрын

    Marvellous video. Keep it up! The extent you went to show your appreciation of this game is really inspiring.

  • @jdtug8251
    @jdtug82514 жыл бұрын

    Strange, I found out your channel 2 weeks ago, and I loved most of the retrospectives, but I was like "where is suikoden 2?" It's probably the most influential game I've played and watching your retrospectives of other games made me want to play it. =) New sub ♥

  • @Namorat
    @Namorat4 жыл бұрын

    Just another addition (perhaps good for the youtube algorithm): The German translation is even worse. Almost the whole of Gregminster isn't in German (or English), but French... And some of the most emotional scenes are botched by repeating a previous line... And I still love the game so much despite its flaws.

  • @alvin081988
    @alvin0819884 жыл бұрын

    Everything in this game is likeable ....The Characters, Villains, Story and most of all is the Music

  • @thunter992
    @thunter9924 жыл бұрын

    Waited a while for this. Thank you

  • @meizanmestech
    @meizanmestech4 жыл бұрын

    This is a very good video. I search for Suikoden to learn more since there's a spritual successor coming. While watching this video, i have strong urge to play a game i never heard of 10 minutes ago. Great job. Excellent work.

  • @Mugenmush
    @Mugenmush4 жыл бұрын

    The music in the intro gives me goosebumps and gets me a little choked up even to this day. Suikoden II is my favorite RPG of all time and I can't foresee that changing anytime soon. While not really a criticism, I wish you had gone into more detail about the relationship between Riou and Jowy and how that evolves/plays out over the course of the game. SOME SPOILERS AHEAD: For me, a major part of what makes the game special is how the game plays with the player's expectations of an antagonist - here you have a character that's every bit as brutal and maniacal as Kefka (or take your pick of any famous JRPG villain) and, while admittedly shocking, is extremely one-note. I kindof hate villains that are "evil because evil". It's just not very interesting or particularly believable. There's not even a hint of empathy to be found there. They're like a force of nature. So many games have taken this approach, some with more flair than others, but the evil because evil villain isn't particularly novel. But Suikoden II does something different. It kills that villain... but then the game keeps going. Now you have a new character that fills that role that's very different from Luca. He's not evil because evil, he's doing what he thinks is right but that puts him at odds with you and yours. You can understand _why_ he's doing what he's doing, even if you disagree, even if it's misguided. The same could be said for a number of the characters under his command, and it gives some of the ending moments a very bittersweet quality. They're doing what they see as the best course of action for their people, but those plans and yours are diametrically opposed. It's easy to see how, from their perspective, _you're the villain_ . But you're the victor, and history is written by the victors. It's a great take on the horrors of civil war, the death of innocence, and lifelong friendship. It's a simultaneously brutal, beautiful, emotionally draining and exhilarating story. I try to proselytize on this game's behalf any opportunity I get, and it's difficult to explain what makes it so special without delving into spoilers, but the evolution of Riou and Jowy over the course of the game, their narrative arc, is something truly special.

  • @SonGokuroth

    @SonGokuroth

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree with the Riou and Joey analysis. Unfortunately the reviewer did not get the concept behind Suikoden 2 and therefore didn’t like the game. He’s too much into the technicalities and nitpicks every little detail instead of feeling the experience of the game if you know what I mean.

  • @Daniel-Unmeiten

    @Daniel-Unmeiten

    3 жыл бұрын

    i can feel your love for this game...i love it too...riou and jowy,friendship/enmity, then friendship again...paths, decisions, really big consequences, and the maturity to face them...no other game or tale have this epic and emotional story..i can even tell that just a few movies out there can compare to the story of suiko 2

  • @Senyuno
    @Senyuno4 жыл бұрын

    4:30 And it was such a tragedy when SIII and especially SIV felt like an artistic DOWNGRADE because of their smoothness, their expressionlessness, and the loss of just overall stunning art the game was known for.

  • @usaskjock

    @usaskjock

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had to stop playing Suikoden III because it was so fucking ugly

  • @thyagobrod
    @thyagobrod4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video. So humbling.

  • @radicalstanza3614
    @radicalstanza36144 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. Great, great work.

  • @aboller319
    @aboller3194 ай бұрын

    RIP Murayama-sensei

  • @docholidayproductions
    @docholidayproductions4 жыл бұрын

    Suikoden 2 is the G.O.A.T of rpg games.

  • @rich4469
    @rich44694 жыл бұрын

    Easily one of my all time favorites. I just started playing it again this past weekend in fact. I also got the spelling of my daughters name from this game. Coincidentally, she started choir classes at the beginning of the school year. Your reviews are always excellent, and this one is certainly no exception. Well done sir.

  • @Sulhya
    @Sulhya4 жыл бұрын

    Amazing vdo ! Thank you for your hard work !!

  • @Rich12345620
    @Rich123456204 жыл бұрын

    Great review! I hate hearing though how developers personal lives suffered so much to give us these masterpieces. Personal loss because of an arts project is something I know all too well and unless you work in the industry sadly you won’t ever understand this. Yes it was their passion and child but they still have their right to live their lives as they see fit. What makes it all worthwhile is “thank you” because people will know that their hard work was worth t. Yes I do know that some projects aren’t as demanding as this one and even then do the same just say thank you to developers. It makes it all worth it!

  • @castlevania82
    @castlevania824 жыл бұрын

    Best RPG I have EVER played and to this day still the best!!!!!!!

  • @bennieblanks5129
    @bennieblanks51294 жыл бұрын

    This was really fantastic work, man. It would have been easy to simply regurgitate the accepted narrative about the game's development, but you went the extra mile and taught me something new about one of my favorite titles. This says a lot about the time and care you invest into these reviews. The result was the finest video I've seen about Suikoden II on KZread. Thank you. Definitely subscribed.

  • @fannyramadhan21
    @fannyramadhan214 жыл бұрын

    I am enjoying the video huge thanks to for Resonant arc,ZenmenZ,and Mr.Murayama(writer suikoden best scenario) feels great having news to murayama about suikoden 2!

  • @AdeptScholar
    @AdeptScholar4 жыл бұрын

    Unquestionably my favorite r.p.g. on the system. For those who haven't played it, be sure and play the first one beforehand to get the most out of the experience.

  • @KoroDono
    @KoroDono4 жыл бұрын

    This is such a beautiful comprehensive review for S2. Thank you for the time and care you put into making this and I can't wait to hear your thoughts on other games down the road. Are you considering delving into the other three from the main series by chance?

  • @ResonantArc

    @ResonantArc

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Hannah! I don't have immediate plans to move on to Suikoden 3, but I'm sure I will get there eventually. My guess is Patreon will vote for something like Golden Sun, Grandia, or Secret of Mana next.

  • @KoroDono

    @KoroDono

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ResonantArc That's understandable and honestly, hearing about those would be great as well :3

  • @TRDGE
    @TRDGE4 жыл бұрын

    *clap clap clap* another fantastic analysis, such a big fan, thank you!

  • @tainasmc
    @tainasmc4 жыл бұрын

    Wow great video! I remember that I spent so many hours just pacing around the castle and noticing the changes. Everything about this game made an impact on my life, the story, the characters, the different kind of battles. I was born in Brazil so the the plot was a bit hard for me to understand, so me and my cousins would spend hours on the internet searching translations. This game means so much to me and I can't even describe the many emotions I have experienced while playing this game. It is sad that the developer team suffered so much during the elaboration of the game. Nowadays we talk more about this topic but I believe the conditions didn't improve all that much.

  • @LucaBlight_7
    @LucaBlight_74 жыл бұрын

    this brought tears to my eyes. the nostalgia is too strong

  • @Thallod

    @Thallod

    4 жыл бұрын

    DIE PIG!!!!!

  • @LucaBlight_7

    @LucaBlight_7

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Thallod I am sublime! I am the true face of evil!!

  • @andresuharman4961

    @andresuharman4961

    4 жыл бұрын

    Victor: Bah, You're still alive?

  • @The810kid
    @The810kid4 жыл бұрын

    This game is one of the best RPG's I've ever played and I loved the politics and the rag tag group of hero's becoming a nation state.

  • @Tostigroover
    @Tostigroover4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome stuff. If this video is anything to go by, I dig your new approach to retrospective reviews with a more in-depth look into classic (role-playing) games. This way, the review feels educational and informative while still also going into the subjective stuff--what makes the game awesome to a lot of its fans. Also, hearing A Bustling Town (4:35) really brings a smile to my face. Well, time to watch this again.

  • @LotusBlade27
    @LotusBlade274 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for taking the time for this in depth review. Suikoden II is my favourite JRPG of all time, and I always say that if I were to play just one JRPG in my lifetime, it would be Suikoden II. Thank you. so much.

  • @hadoo1973
    @hadoo19734 жыл бұрын

    How do we get a Switch release of Suikoden 1 and 2? I need this to happen.

  • @5wombnuggets531

    @5wombnuggets531

    4 жыл бұрын

    hadoo 1 I’ve been saying this too!

  • @TakeShinoh

    @TakeShinoh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, if you didn't know, Murayama-san and his team are developing a spiritual successor of Suikoden II, go check Eiyuden Chronicles on Kickstarter ! ;) www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description

  • @DragonoftheDarknessFlame
    @DragonoftheDarknessFlame4 жыл бұрын

    I literally just got the game yesterday and this appeared in my recommended. I'm scared Google is stalking me. Also, playing it believe the sprites still hold up today and the game has surprisingly great animations

  • @ordep2pucci
    @ordep2pucci4 жыл бұрын

    This is my favorite game of all time. It´s been ages since I heard somebody talking about it. Brings so much memories. Thank you for that review, it really touch me. Dont really have words to describe it...

  • @owlwolf4043
    @owlwolf40433 жыл бұрын

    Had very little knowledge of this franchise until you covered it. My love for JRPGs has been vastly re-emerging recently and am more than excited to play this classic because of the quality and heart behind this review. And now, with Eiyuden Chronicle on its way, I'm honored and ecstatic to be part of the process of making a game in a genre I adore dearly.

  • @cal5750
    @cal57504 жыл бұрын

    5:50 A developer who actually listens and respects what the fans want out of the series? It's a far different time now... lol

  • @TakeShinoh

    @TakeShinoh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, if you didn't know, Murayama-san and his team are developing a spiritual successor of Suikoden II, go check Eiyuden Chronicles on Kickstarter ! ;) www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description

  • @cliveygames

    @cliveygames

    3 жыл бұрын

    True af

  • @madscientist916
    @madscientist9164 жыл бұрын

    Luca Blight would fit in very easily in the Berserk series, they definitely upped his menace and sadism.

  • @megamike15

    @megamike15

    4 жыл бұрын

    when you look at him compared to other jrpg villains he stands out. no magical powers he is just a man thats hard to kill.

  • @killerzombies96

    @killerzombies96

    4 жыл бұрын

    pretty similar to a certain Dynasty Warrior character....Lu Bu... *gasp* oh wait!!! Lu Bu!!...Luca Blight!? coincidence????

  • @devmiles
    @devmiles4 жыл бұрын

    I can easily say that both Suikoden 1 & especially 2 changed my life. This great review describes why. Thank you for this!

  • @pablocodazzi8990
    @pablocodazzi89903 жыл бұрын

    Excellent review! GS2 is my favourite game in the world. Like you say, is the kind of game that has a huge formative value on his players. I feel it that way at least. Thanks for this!

  • @derekspradling7452
    @derekspradling74524 жыл бұрын

    wow. I actually feel bad for never hearing of these games! For the amount of effort and how enticing they are in graphics, art style, music, story, and gameplay!

  • @ericschauer5950

    @ericschauer5950

    Жыл бұрын

    Well at least now you have and Konami is releasing a remastered 1and 2 plus eiyuden chronicles hundred heros is coming out sometime next year and it was made by most of the original team

  • @TaborHill
    @TaborHill4 жыл бұрын

    Haa. I always pronounced it: Sook-oh-den. I never knew that was wrong.

  • @cashnelson2306

    @cashnelson2306

    3 жыл бұрын

    why would there be an i

  • @shadowravenraz1748

    @shadowravenraz1748

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why, but I pronounced it the same way... that was until I was playing Metal Gear Solid and Psycho Mantis detected my save file. He corrected me on my pronunciation. 😆

  • @Pan_Z

    @Pan_Z

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's Su-I-Ko-Den. When you say the first two syllables quickly, it sounds like 'Swee' from the word Sweet.

  • @Syeal7

    @Syeal7

    3 жыл бұрын

    We were kids when I played this and pronounced it like the Swedish word for the "the code" -> "Sui *Koden*". Pretty much meaning, "The Code of Sui" if you'd translate it. I guess we were even further away than you in terms of pronunciation ^^

  • @Logan-ee5rx

    @Logan-ee5rx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same. LOL.

  • @HS99930
    @HS999304 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for your work, really appreciated.

  • @georgevathipoulias30
    @georgevathipoulias304 жыл бұрын

    Awesome review mate!! Well thought and with research! Kudos to you! :-)

  • @EthanLesley
    @EthanLesley4 жыл бұрын

    Everyone I know pronounces Jowy as Joey, and this review is putting my life under question.

  • @Spartan-ir4qd
    @Spartan-ir4qd4 жыл бұрын

    This was an amazing deep dive. Thank you & those involved for bringing it out. As someone who loves the entire musical score i appreciate the insight from Miki Higashino and her experience, such as the teams passion to deliver a amazing product, to the terrible mis-management from the "higher ups" in konami. She as many other konami project leads, designers, etc etc never got the appreciation they were deserved by their employer. Kinda makes me think - how isnt konami up their with EA as one of the worst company to be employed by. I mean EA never kidnapped someone, forced him into slave labour with zero contact with the outside world, until he was finished konami's work, only to have his entire legacy up till that point stolen from him by konami. >coughs< Kojima.

  • @SoftwareAgentsTV
    @SoftwareAgentsTV4 жыл бұрын

    Great work!!

  • @Vinnysol08
    @Vinnysol084 жыл бұрын

    This was the best! You actually reached out to the creators of this masterpiece. Amazing. This game was perfect as far as I’m concerned, and your review was great!

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