Su-26 F3P Low Budget Contra Drive Biplane V2 build Video | Tobi-Style
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Nach langer Zeit habe ich endlich einen Nachfolger für meine F3P Su-26 gebaut. Diesmal noch leichter und mit besseren Flugeigenschaften. Ziel war es einen günstigen gegenläufigen Antrieb zu finden, was auch relativ gut gelungen ist. Die Motoren haben sogar noch etwas zu viel Leistung und könnten somit noch leichter sein. Eine Einheit aus Motor/Regler/Propeller wiegt hierbei 11g.
In diesem Video hab ich die Bauphase, sowie die ersten Tests im Keller und den Jungfernflug (den ersten Tag in der Halle) dokumentiert. Es fehlen noch ein paar zusätzliche Verstrebungen und der Schwerpunkt ist auch noch viel zu weit hinten.
Bald wird es auch noch ein reines Flugvideo geben, wenn alles richtig eingestellt ist und ich mehr Routine mit dem Flieger habe.
Wenn ihr also in Zukunft nichts mehr verpassen wollt, würde ich mich sehr darüber freuen wenn ihr meinen Kanal abonniert und ein "Like" da lasst wenn euch das Video gefallen hat.
Wenn ihr noch Fragen/Anregungen/Wünsche oder sonstiges haben solltet, einfach rein damit in die Kommentare.
Pilot: Tobias Warzecha
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Specs of my Su-26 F3P biplane:
-Wingspan: 86cm
-Lengh: 95cm
-Flyingweight: 70g
Used components:
-Radio: JR XG 14
-Receiver: JR RG611B
-Servos: 4x Spektrum A2010
-ESC: 2x Dualsky 6A XC0610BA
-Motors: 2x Dualsky XM1812MA-42
-Propellers: Sergej Glavak SG 07x2.3 and SG 07x2,3 L
-Akku: 2x Mylipo 1s 150mah 25/50C (together 2s 150mah)
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Your building and flying skills are amazing!
Outstanding slow speed performing aircraft. Best indoor performance I've seen. Incredibly beautiful plane.
Congratulations, excellent design and construction skills and a lovely little plane. F3P never ceases to amaze me!
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
Amazing, lightweight and beautiful build. Not to mention the Superman flying skills. All good!!!
WOW.....That had everything that is great about aeromodelling.....
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks a lot :)
That looks so therapeutic...!
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
It's also really relaxing to fly :)
¡IMPRESIONANTE! Buen trabajo.
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias
Well done! Holy heck man your engineering and stick control skills are of the chart ^_^
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
I love the Slick 580 Scheme on this plane, great video and editing!
This is more than wonderful. Supper job and skills.
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks :)
This is absolutely fabulous; wonderful engineering
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
Excellent Build & Precision Flyin! Thanks You Have Given Me Some New Build Ideas On Materials & Techniques...
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks
Watching this only to enjoy 😊 the marvelous soundtrack at highest volume...
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks 👍
Absoluter Hammer!
Wowsers this is a fantastic build! I recently started to 'try' make some foam board planes and the amount of detail and the way this model is able to fly so slow absolutely blows my mind!! Fantastic job mate well done 👏
well done on your build, I like how you showed the build and flight
Massima stima per te, sei grande! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
very cool!, particularly using the colour scheme that I designed! :) ...looks like a fun airplane!
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a lot of fun. But for next season there're some parts to improve. I didn't knew that you designed it. Great job. I'm loving it on my Slick 580, but also looks really good on shockys :)
Amazing Job man , keep going ! amazing skill
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
Looks like a fun model!
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. A lot of fun to fly with :)
Seriously impressive building skills! Nice work 😍😎🤩
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks 😊
Wow, Great flying Bro. Th plane is fantastic as well
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks a lot
great build and flying
I Love an Airplane with lots of Air !
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
very interesting and well done, really enjoyed it.
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
It looks like it stops mid flight sometimes! Super stable flight as well. Very nice work!
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks a lot
STUNNING !!!!!!
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
Fliegen in Zeitlupe. Geiles Ding!
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Danke dir
Супер!))) Впервые вижу такое интересное прочтение SU-26)))) Светлана Капанина наверняка удивится и порадуется, если увидит!)) Летает превосходно, очень красивая модель!
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but I can't understand this
Love it!!! I fly indoor free flight, F1L, Limited Penny Plane, USA rules EZB, and A6, and can absolutely appreciate the work that went into this model. Great build and it looks wonderful in the air.
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks :) I also appreciate you work with the free flight planes. We once had a guy with one of these in our club. Verry impressive to watch
control skill is really nice wow...
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
That is sooooo sweet wow all I can say is nice, very nice .happy new year to you and yours.
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I wish you a happy new year too
Super ,super,super!
Wonderful!! wow wow wow
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
Klasse Tobi, thumbs up :-)
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
Uwe Grenda Danke dir😊
Awesome job...
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
Super!
Fantastic airplane
Sehr Cool! :D
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
Danke dir :)
MUY MUY MUUUY BUENO QUE ARTE TIENES MAN !
Aber hallo wie cool ist das denn !! Weitermachen da geht noch mehr !!
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey danke :)
New maneuver: Fly at the wall and pull vertical. Land on the wall and hover to a stop. then takeoff. Very cool design and construction techniques.
This is so cool.. 👍
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks 😊
Sweet!!!!!
I got worried when I saw that mini Radian zipping around. It could smash that bipe to pieces. Great design. I really like the contra motors concept.
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the mini Radian is sometimes a bit scarry, but I try to take care as good a possible that this woun't happen
AWESOME
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
Just stumbled on this video. Awesome design! Love the way it floats in the air. I'd love to see some of your other planes because this one blows me away! Wish I could read the text , youtube should make it possible to translate!
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you. Videos of my other planes (indoor and outdoor) will follow soon. At the moment, the only way to translate the text is to use an external translator
good job! nice idea.
I saw that intro and subscribed.
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Great, I hope you like this channel
@simont3686
4 жыл бұрын
@@tobi-styleOf course I do.
11 Gramm motor/Regler/Propeller!? Soviel wiegt mein servo fürs querruder in meiner edge540...zugegebenermaßen hätte auch ein 7 Gramm servo bei mir gereicht. Sehr gute arbeit beim bau und beim editieren vom video. Top. Gibt ein like
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
Danke dir :) Ja, die 11 Gramm stimmen. Mit den zwei Motoren hat er für das Abfluggewicht aber viel zu viel Leistung. Für nächste Saison werde ich es mal mit nur einem Motor probieren.
Muleke fera de mais ... Monstro
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
Amigos do JOTAFlyer Muchas gracias😊
Sehr geil. Ich habe immer mehr das Gefühl das ich mich wieder mit dem leichtbau beschäftigen muss 🙈
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
FlyFreak Danke dir😀 Ja der Leichbau ist eine Sache für sich, mach aber auch extrem viel Spaß beim Bauen und Fliegen
@FlyFreak96
5 жыл бұрын
Ja kann ich mir gut vorstellen. Das sieht bei dir alles so einfach aus😁. Ich muss mal gucken was ich bauen kann( habe leider keine fräse)
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
@@FlyFreak96 Du kannst sowas auch ohne Fräse bauen, ich hab den ersten F3P Doppeldecker auch komplett per Hand ausgeschnitten. Am Ende dürfte es sogar genau gleich lang dauern, weil beim Fräsen ja noch die ganze Vorbereitung dazukommt und das Fräsen selbst ja auch noch etwas dauert
@FlyFreak96
5 жыл бұрын
hast du die beiden 1s Lipos parallel oder in reihe gelegt? Ich habe genau das selbe Antriebsset für mein F3p Flieger aber bei 1s reagiert gar nix. Gruß Rolf
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
Hallo Rolf, ich hab die beiden Akkus in Reihe, also als 2s 150mah verschaltet. Der Motor sollte auch noch mit 1s funktionieren, allerdings läuft der Regler bei 1s nicht mehr
Amazing, should add a video insert if your hands working the controls.
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks. The movement of my hands with this plane are not that crazy, pretty slow like the plane itself ;)
Very cool build thanks for showing the process. Do you plan on adding any speed brakes for your down lines?
@powderslinger5968
4 жыл бұрын
Yes! The effect would be complete!
awesome
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
Wow! what a fantastic construction and Build! i wonder what program you use for designing the model? great flying anyways!
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
I did use the CAD from our university, so in my case it's Catia V5. You can also use other programs like AutoCad or Inkscape
Tobi, could you please tell me what are the materials you used for construction (i.e., white board and clear sheet)? Fabulous job!!!
great vid whats your motors
Huhu, eine tolle Arbeit!! Kann man den irgendwo nachbauen? Und was brauche ich da für Motoren, Servos und kkus zu? Wäre toll, wenn Sie mir da weiterhelfen. Bin schon lange auf der Suche nach genau solchen Modellen! Liebe Grüße und schöne Feiertage! Michael Hünermund
it's flying SOO slow :o very breathtaking. are there plans of this plane?
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but at the moment I don't have plans for this plane.
@PauloIrineudeSouza
3 жыл бұрын
@@tobi-style And now, sr. Do you have the plans to sell, please?
Are there any commercially-made kits available for this class of aerobatic plane? I usually fly outdoors, but I would like to have this type for indoors.
Fantastisch Gewicht Bauausführung Film Flug Nur eine Frage Ich baue meist mit Holz und bin im Vergleich zum Durchschnitt auf andere Art Minimalist. Material Depron?
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey danke :) Ja genau, das ist Aero-Depron
“Low budget” where I come from does not cover access to or the use of expensive machinery - live the design and the workmanship though
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
For me it's kind of low budget, because at your club I can use our whole workshop (CNC included) for just 20€ a year. Besides this I completely understand what you mean. For my first F3P biplane project (kzread.info/dash/bejne/q3iDz7NvZcW-oNY.html) I did cut out all the pieces by hand. So it's completely possible without CNC
@briancourtice2858
4 жыл бұрын
@@tobi-style The CNC is nice, but that airplane could be cut out by hand. No big budget machine required.
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
@@briancourtice2858 Yes you're right
I’m looking for a motor, servos and radio set or spektrum receiver to start building ultra slow planes like this, any suggestions? Previously I’d just strip micro helicopters for the electronics but a receiver compatible with a spektrum dx6i would be convenient, I’ve got an as3x all in one with a 28mm edf and I’m building a gear reduction to use that motor on a slow pitch prop but it’s still heavy for indoor. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
i am newbie who want learn F3p. i want to ask if you use gyro in this video ? and How to setup the gyro ? i just bough AR3Pro V1 Hobbyeagle .
Super. Dance.
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
I'm very impressed. Really neat plane. Are you using differential thrust? Please tell what kind of film you are using.
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
I tried differential thrust, but becaus the propellers are verry close togther, it hasn't much an effect. The film is called "mylar film" with a thickness of 3 microns
@Eugensdiet
4 жыл бұрын
@@tobi-style Thanks for the feedback.
Respekt, echt super gemacht. Tolles Bau-Video, hast du den Flieger selber entwinkelt? 👍 Abo hast du schon.
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
Flybrei danke dir😊 Ja, der Flieger ist selbst entwickelt
@Flybrei
5 жыл бұрын
@@tobi-style So ist der noch cooler👍😎
@Rundumsfliegen
5 жыл бұрын
@Flybrei: du hier?😂 Das beste: ich habe Tobi-Style schonmal in echt getroffen😂👍
Did you set up motor brake (in the esc) for vertical upright? The plane is very very slow but not in vertical upright. Is it possibile to slow down the plane when it is in vertical upright manoeuvre?
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't set up the brake, because the little propeller don't have much braking force. I try to use my ailerons as a brake
@donolinger6904
4 жыл бұрын
@@tobi-style - Do they move the normal way, like the would during banking for turns? Or is it in the same direction?
Super Video... Geiles Modell.. Es wäre sehr nett, wenn Du mir zwei Fragen beantworten könntest... Welche Folie verwendest Du .. Kondensatorfolie ? und bespannst Du die Teile beidseitig oder nur auf einer Seite ? Vielen Dank schon mal...
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Danke dir :) Ja, es ist Kondensatorfolie oder auch Mylar Folie genannt. Damit bespann ich dann die Teile nur auf einer Seite
@ludwigwenninger6290
4 жыл бұрын
Cool.. Ich habe nach der Folie gesucht aber nix gefunden.. Welche Stärke verwendest Du und kannst Du einen Tipp geben, wo man diese bekommt ? Danke Dir..
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
@@ludwigwenninger6290 schau mal hier: fly-scale.de/Kondensatorfolie-Polypropylen-320mm-breit-35lm sonst gibts die auch im Shop von Donatas Pauzuolis, die ist dann etwas dünner und noch minimal leichter
was für motoren hast du benutzt?
Hi Tobi, super spannende Bauweise. Ich Versuch Grad ein Luftschiff in dieser Bauweise zu bauen, hab aber noch kein passendes Material zum bespannen gefunden . Welches hast Du verwendet?
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, ich benutze zum bespannen Mylarfolie (auch Kondensatorfolie genannt) mit einer Dicke von 3-3,5µm
@Erichder5te
4 жыл бұрын
@@tobi-style interessant. Ich hab da nur sone schwere 30g/m² Folie. Kannst Du mir neb Link zu einer Bezugsquelle schicken? Danke
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
@@Erichder5te Ich hab meine von Fly-Scale: fly-scale.de/Kondensatorfolie-Polypropylen-320mm-breit-35lm Die dünnere, 3 mü dicke, gibts sonst noch bei Donatas Pauzuolis im Onlineshop
Hey, hast du eine Fräsdatei für die airbrush Schablonen, bzw. wie hast du die gemacht? Gruß Simon
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
Hi, ich hab das Design in Inkscape erstellt und dann als DXF exportiert und gefräst. Also zu deiner Frage, ja ich habe eine Fräsdatei für die Schablonen. Grüße Tobi
@simonje3810
5 жыл бұрын
Tobi-Style ok, vielen dank.😃
What material di you use to build the airframe?
@Maxfahrer
4 жыл бұрын
It's Depron
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
It's Aero-Depron covered with mylar film
Is there a plan available for this model ?
Woow o: Ist es möglich die Pläne oder CAD Files zu bekommen?
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
Danke :) Ich werde für nächste Saison die Pläne als PDF aufbereiten und veröffentlichen
Can you provide the plans in whatever format. Dxf, pdf, anything works fine for me.
Nice plain. I just don't understand that type stunt flying. Looks to be tail heavy in normal flight.
@Maxfahrer
4 жыл бұрын
It isn't tail heavy. He is flying in stall thus has a positive angle of attack / slight pitch up.
Ist es möglich so einen Flieger bei Dir käuflich zu erwerben, und mit was für einem Preis müsste man rechnen??
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Leider ist es zzt. nicht möglich so einen Flieger bei mir zu kaufen. Wenn dies allerdings der Fall wäre müsste man mit min. 600€ nur allein an Arbeitskosten rechnen
Welches Material ist das weisse Gerüst? und Welche Folien verwendest du du? Gibst den PF Plan schon, wäre otal super!
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, das weiße Gerüst ist Aero-Depron und die Folie nennt sich Mylar oder Kondensatorfolie. Den Plan gibt es leider noch nicht
@robertdanzl
4 жыл бұрын
@@tobi-style danke für die Antwort. Freu mich auf den Plan. Ist das Depron 3mm oder. Ist die Folie selbstklebend
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
@@robertdanzl Genau, das ist 3mm Depron. Das Gerüst sprühe ich mit Sprühkleber ein, damit die Folie darauf hält. Sieht man auch im Video ;)
How can I learn to build and fly like this?
I just wish you had shown the motors and servos to me that's where the mystery is
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
There is no mystery about this, you can find all the components in the video description
My German is not so good, what do you cover your models like this in?
@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346
4 жыл бұрын
It L@@Ked To Me Like What I Use? Light 3mil Heat Shrink Wrap? For Super Ultra-Lights I Like Using A Cheap Clear Food CLING Wrap It's A Little Thinner...
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
No problem, I do cover my models with mylar film
Sooooo bad ass, can we get the blueprints for that?
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks, if I have enought time I'll prepare the plans to be publishable
How can i get plan of this plane?
Verkaufst du auch die modelle bzw die Bausätze?
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Derzeit leider nicht mehr, ich habe es aber wieder vor
@paolopinkel8288
4 жыл бұрын
Habe defintiv Interesse. Mit wieviel muss man ca rechnen?
You selling kits?
Have you thought about it making it FPV? We are talking added 9g weight is huge but is it doable?
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Untill now, I didn't thought about making it FPV, but it would be possible. The structure of my plane could handle the 9g pretty easy on the right spots, like on the nose between the propellers
@Lucky32Luke
4 жыл бұрын
@@tobi-style I build fpv micro quadcopters for a while now and in my field of the hobby it became common to install fpv (tiny 600tvl analogue camera + video transmitter all in 9g runs from 3v-5v on 25mW output) on almost anything moves. I have fpv on my RC car, on a monster truck, on my daughter's RC crawler etc. The range you flying is covered without a problem. The only real investment is a decent analogue fpv goggle (Fatshark; Orqa; SkyZone). Right now the digital HD FPV in this size and weight is not yet ready only from 40g+. Once you transmitting a video signal anyone in that sport arena who turns on a goggle can see and follow what you see in your goggles live without delay! Immersive. I hope you will give it a try but one suggestion: try first in a large environment even if you flying awesome and confident LOS, flying FPV will take a few runs to get used to I am 100% sure but I also pretty confident it will blow your mind too!
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
@@Lucky32Luke Thanks for your recommendations. I think I'll give it at try, but then with a plane especially designed for FPV and a bit more durable in case of a crash ;)
@Lucky32Luke
4 жыл бұрын
@@tobi-style Glad if I could help or possibly influenced you joining the FPV community. Your build quality and flying skills will work for you if you ever feel trying quadcopters I know a former heli champion who also happen to be the best in our hobby too in racing. it would be great to see the video you flying ultra light fpv. Dont know anyone who have done it. You could be a pioneer on that I think. Good luck and prepare for take off! ;)
How do I get one
Vbar why not spektrum?
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
This is the JR XG14 radio. It looks a bit like the Vbar, but it isn't
Excellent! Can I purchase plane drawings?
Q: why cover the body in clear plastic?
@davidhines7104
4 жыл бұрын
Rob Ot it’s a ultra light that’s cellophane
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
I did cover it, because it's much lighter. The film is called "mylar film" with a thickness of 3 microns
gibt es dafür eine dxf?
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Eig. ja, aber ich hab sie noch nicht zur Veröffentlichung aufbereitet
Can you share the plans, please?
@tobi-style
5 жыл бұрын
At the moment I haven't enough time to convert my CAD files into good drawings for everyone, but I plan to do it in the future.
@PauloIrineudeSouza
5 жыл бұрын
@@tobi-style Thank you!
"Low budget" and CNC don't fit in same project. That is called oxymoron
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure it is, but you can also build this without the help of a CNC like I did for my first F3P biplane project: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q3iDz7NvZcW-oNY.html
@ejcheli
3 жыл бұрын
Naw man. CNC is now available for everyone. 3D printers? Thats CNC. All those components, stepper motors, drivers, etc? Dirt cheap. I built my own CNC machines for hobby use and it cost me next to nothing. I built a laser cutter, a router, engraver, lathe, and a couple 3D printers. All are CNC and were exteremly affordable. Now I laser cut all my own kits and manufacture all my own parts. Look up GRBL on Arduino and what Raspberry Pi's can do, lots of smart dudes out there giving out free info on the interent. We live in amazing times!
can i buy one
@johnnyllooddte3415
4 жыл бұрын
where is the link for the plans
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
At the moment you can't buy this plane. If I have enought time, I'll prepare the plans to be publishable
Awesome! But please lose the annoying music
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, do you have any music recommendations for future videos?
my dear, please send me dimension and detail
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but it's really difficult so send you details about the plane. The dimensions instead, you can find in the video description
Co to za folia ?
@tobi-style
4 жыл бұрын
This is mylar film
台灣能購買嗎