CONCLUSION: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ammXr9KFpdXYprw.html

I’m so glad I found your videos! I’ve watched them a few times and confirmed my choice!! B all the way!! Thanks!!

B seemed to have an overall more detailed sound, more clarity, and a more natural sound than A. I think A is the EN and B is the SH. That being said, it can also be system dependent as well as a matter of preference.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Can't say which is whch yet 😃

@christianhaas5956

Жыл бұрын

Fully agree. And also space to me is more 3D with B. Clearly reproducable on both tracks. Hope it´s the SH.

@frankgeeraerts6243

6 ай бұрын

SH is quite stunning for a basic cartridge .....like your opinion ! Indeed all results are always kind of system dependant also ..

@NickP333

6 ай бұрын

@@frankgeeraerts6243Hey Frank 👋🎶 Yeah, there’s a lot of inexpensive carts available today that are really quite good. That said, there’s a chance of the system can effect the sound. Some people like that etched kinda “HiFi” sound, where others are more mellow. It’s a matter of what one prefers. I know what I prefer, and from talking to you via comments for years now, I think I’m aware of the type of sound you like, and I believe we’re on the same page with that one…..

@NickP333

6 ай бұрын

@@frankgeeraerts6243Frank, one more thing. I recently built an amp for a friend by a company that offers kits called, “Akatika”. They’re solid state amps, but the sound was quite stunning to me. It was really good, especially being driven by my tube pre, and it drove both my Tektons and Fortes with ease. After hearing that First Watt F6 amp, this was actually pretty close in sound. Just a nerdy hifi thing I thought I’d share with you, and the fact I’m still thinking about that F6 means I probably should build one for myself…lol.

I guessed right, but I never expected the 95en to be so close !

Hey squarepants, I see you've listed in other vids you've modded the sl1200. Which mods is this? I'm thinking of changing my tonearm wires but don't know if the results will warrant the effort. Ps to me the vocals in the A sample here sound clearer but that makes it sound like an analytical sound (but that's through crappy £30 ear buds)

Thank you for the video

Just wondering what kind of table you are running, and what kind of isolation platform you have it on?

Hi, one question, how your modified Technics SL-1200MK II, compares to the SONY PS-X 555ES, I have the SONY and I am wondering if I missing something. Regards

¡Hey, Fran! ¡Gracias por el divertimento! Me gustan este tipo de vídeos. Yo me quedo con A, creo que me gusta algo más que B (que quizá sea algo más cálida y menos analítica). Ahora, a esperar el desenlace 👍🏻 Edito: en los samples me suena mejor A y en el vídeo me suena mejor B. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Gracias Miguel! 🙂Si no me dices lo contrario, anoto tu voto a la 'A' 😉

OMG definitely B more wide more open and natural i loved :) Maybe A is more precise and focused but my favourite is B

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your findings! I'll unveil which is which in a couple of days ;)

Thanks for doing this comparison Francisco . A has that more traditional AT sound B is more natural and open .So B for me!

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

OK! Speaking words of wisdom...😋 We'll se! Thanks!

could you give some recommendations for headshells

What a subtle way to let our ears judge the music, that's produced by these cartridges. It really makes a difference. I choose B for more a wider spectrum. I still hate the cracks in vinyl, but it sounds so much better than CD's. Vinyl has a heart and soul. So I keep playing music on physical media. Streaming does not even come close to the 'real deal'.

I'd be happy with either. btw, great piece of music.

Downloaded the files. My strongest preference is on the Stanley... definitely prefer B. One person's muddy is another person's 'full' but I like that fullness on that song. The Cardas, it was closer, but after downloading the files, I still prefer B, but to a lesser degree than the Stanley. For the inner groove comparison, it's very close. I'm not overly sensitive to IG distortion, but I still think I prefer the overall sound of the B sample.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😉

I would choose B, but i could live with either one and the difference is not too huge. I could hear the biggest difference on Old And Wise tbh and even that was not too big. I could use any of the two styli and be happy :) I had the ML and liked it a lot.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Can't say which is which yet🤐 I bet you'd love the EN.

@Livewire91

Жыл бұрын

@@HiFisquarepants From what i have heard yes :) It's a very good sounding stylus and especially for it's price. Still i think the Concorde is more for me since it beat my ML :D Just needs a better stylus profile.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

I do have a vintage Conconde 30. Nothing to do with the current DJ models.

@Livewire91

Жыл бұрын

@@HiFisquarepants Nice! I would love to hear those vintage ones, do they still make styli for them? Thakker usually has a big variety of styli for sell.

@paulaj2829

8 ай бұрын

Whichever one you go for you will be able to have fun & that is all that matters with listening to vinyl music because whatever system you have you will love it until you buy more.

Primer canción B Segunda canción A Estaré atento al resultado, es muy interesante ya que estoy pensando en comprar la EN y con el resultado de esta prueba espero terminar de convencerme. Saludos Francisco!!!!

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Yo creo que, sea cual sea el resultado, la EN ya es ganadora por el precio...Gracias por opinar 🙂

Thanks

I have the VMN95SH and sounds great but it tends to skip a lot on some old records. It's very sensitive in my opinion.

@paulaj2829

8 ай бұрын

you could try with a little more pressure on the vinyl which might help with the skipping but you should really go with the VM95E if you are playing older vinyl to be safe rather than damage your VM95SH which is throwing money away .

I prefer b in all the samples, however, it seems to me that the inner groove test is not enough severe. There are not enough sibilants or fricatives, the last b-side track of the test vinyl i linked to you would be a valid test a lot more than this, for all your wonderful cartridges. I hope B is the shibata, otherwise i did choose the wrong stylus... I always appreciated how your arc lp-1 does the frequencies between 15 and 20 Khz, there are no significant losses.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Mmm...thanks 🙂 Can't say which is which yet 😛 Yep, the inner groove track is a bit soft...I didn't want to give conclusive clues...😉

@paolotessarini2720

Жыл бұрын

@@HiFisquarepants I said about the inner grooves because i think this is one of the only 2 defects of the VM95 series: sibilants and cross-talk.

@Livewire91

Жыл бұрын

@@paolotessarini2720 Had no problem with the ML on inner grooves. Tracked like a champ.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

@@paolotessarini2720 Mmm...I have not a single problem with tracking or sibilances with the ML/SH. I'm very demanding in this respect. The EN is also an excellent tracker, I never thought it would be good and that's why I overlooked that model. The truth is that it tracks very well...well enough to meet my minimum requirements. Having said that, with some demanding records the EN shows its limitations in this regard.

@paolotessarini2720

Жыл бұрын

@HiFisquarepants Sorry Francisco, BTW there must has been some glitch 😁Anyway i was gently suggesting Livewire91 the same test record i suggested to you via email, the New Signals And Recordings To Test And Adjust Vinyl Equipment available on am-azon here in Europe, the last B-side track is nothing but perfect to test sibilants and fricatives. I used the ML and the SH with a very large amount of records, setting my equipment at the best i can, and i have to say that they do have a problem (sometimes, not always) with sibilants and fricatives (especially sibilants) , and especially on the inner grooves. It woluld be great if you could test that test-vinyl by yourself.

It amazes me that on the bit " oh honey oh honey romantically I up in the air" is so different one from the other...i can get which one has the more detail but which one do i Prefer the best? Thats another question...I guess the A :)

It was a hard one a had a bit more clarity and picked up more on the high end , but b was more rounded and solid, but then again I was listening though my phone speaker

I prefer A because I feel more resolution and the instruments in the second track are more well rounded with more air around them and well defined I used professional headphones dt 770 pro Thanks for the great comparison

@KnapsterPh

20 күн бұрын

I prefer A too ... I have the atvmn95sh but it seems like a filter on..

I think there is more of "Something" in the sound of the cymbals with A, that I don't really feel like I miss when I concentrate on it with B. Not enough difference for me to prefer either one. I listened to an AT microline for decades, and have only had brief experience with the XP3 that came with my new turntable. That's a difference that anyone can hear. Having seen the price difference for the stylus on the VMN95SH, I just didn't feel right putting such an expense only on the stylus with the rest of the cartridge being only worth about $20. I think it's no accident that they don't sell their cartridges alone, so you have to commit to a stylus in order to hear how much better the 500 or 700 series is over the VMN95. Once you get that VMN95SH, there's nowhere left to upgrade without the completely new cartridge. I'd guess that A is the Shibata based on its history with the high frequencies for quadraphonics, but I'd buy the cheaper one if I had to choose between the two based on this test alone.

@paulaj2829

8 ай бұрын

Stick with the VM95EN & you will not be disappointed because unless you have the money to throw away you will enjoy whatever Cartridge/ Stylus you have until you have the extra cash to upgrade to the next in line & so on until like me you get to the VM95SH.. but after that where would I go.. who knows🙂🙃

In the limit!!!My vote goes for th B" sound🤗

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'll unveil which is which today :)

I prefer B. It is more spacious and controlled.

Hola que tal,muy bueno tu trabajo!,para mi suena un tanto mejor la Shure,la siento mas completa,como me pasa con la mayoria de las Shure con respecto a las Ortofon,saludos!

A is a touch darker and more closed-in than B. B sounds more refined and occupies space, wheras A is flat. I'd love to know which is which!

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

For the moment B is leading the race! Thanks! 😉

🎉 Good afternoon 🌞. What's the cost or price of these cartridges ?

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Hello :) EN: 119€ SH: 175€

A is EN. good drive, kind of cheap harsh sound. SH is calm and smooth, a bit muddy with details. Now I understand why the ML (which I prefer) is between both. thanks

They are both winners, the differences are only subtle nuances that are not noticeable if you have an average system but given the cost difference in any case the winner is EN, as a sound in my system I prefer B. Congratulations on this test, best regards.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! My pleasure :)

7:08 did the trick easily. Stylus B has way less intermodulation distortion on the piano. Thus, it must be the Shibata.

hola!!..muchas gracias por darnos la oportunidad de hacer estas comparaciones, muchas gracias por tu tiempo!...A tiene un sonido "correcto", suena muy bien, tiene menos separacion del campo estéreo y menos frecuencias altas que B, lo cual hace que tienda a resaltar mas los bajos. por otro lado, B suena "sofisticada", en el sentido que toma todo lo bueno de A y lo lleva al siguiente nivel sonoro, ya que al ser mas orientada a los agudos, se definen mas detalles y la imagen estéreo se abre más. para mí la ganadora es B, solo pierde un poco de bajos en relación a A, o quizá al ser mas brillante, el oído compensa y los bajos de esconden un poco. en todo caso, la ganadora al final es la más barata, porque se entiende la diferencia de precio y el hecho que no suena sustantivamente diferente a la otra...quizá en vivo y en directo tendría otra apreciación...saludos desde Chile!

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Muchas gracias por tu detallado análisis 🙇‍♂ Coincido en que la ganadora es la EN, por el precio que tiene 😉Dentro de un par de días desvelaré cuál es cúal en mi canal secundario. Gracias de nuevo. Saludos!

I just listened twice on the big boy system... Definitely not a night and day difference to my ears. I preferred B on the first round and slightly preferred A on the second round but B on the first round sounds slightly bigger so I'll go with that as my favorite. Never heard the EN. I have the ML and have heard the SH, but not in my own system.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Have you downloaded the hires files?

@czguy3045

Жыл бұрын

@@HiFisquarepants I did not. I'll give a listen to them in a couple hours.

Hard choice 😅. First sample I choose A; second sample (Inner groove) I choose B; don't know exactly why but the sound is "better" to my ears with B. So I can't clearly decide 🤷‍♀️

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your opinion 🙂

@BeMJDivinityInMotion

Жыл бұрын

@@HiFisquarepants 😊

Sample 1: A has more soul! Something is missing in B... cant quite explain it! Sample 2: A is slightly clearer but the difference seems very very small!

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! So far, the result of the voting is: A: 17 B: 24 🤷‍♂: 9 I'll unveil which is which today.

B definitely is the better stylus. Better resolution and high frequency response.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'll unveil which is which later today 🙂

B is more balanced overall with more details ; some sibilants on A. B prefered

idk.. I hear distortions in the mid-high region with B, especially in the loud parts. A sounds clear.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Distortions? You mean clicks? Thanks for your vote 😉

@GeoGrig

Жыл бұрын

@@HiFisquarepants yea. distortions. it sounds like the needle is dirty or it's dragging a spec of dust

It's not as clear as some previous tests you did. But I'd say A is my favourite. Super close though.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for voting 🙂

Great👍👍👍 🌹🌹🌹

A of course!!

Well if I thought that the difference was going to make that much difference I would not bother to worry ever again.. Because the difference is not something to think about in my opinion.. Maybe if you can't afford the VM95SH then go for the VM95EN & you will be just be as happy or maybe go for the VM95ML which will give you another problem.. but nothing to worry your pocket.. because I have bought VM95E VM95EN VM95ML & VM95SH & I can't really hear any difference at 74yrs of age .. but still love the fun of playing all my music on which ever one gives me interest at the time. So which ever one you can afford go with that.

B sounds even clearer and natural. A sounds like 48khz B sounds like 192khz .

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Burak 🙂 I'll unveil which is which in a couple of days 😉

They sound the same to me. You probably saved me 100 bucks

B has more detail and feels with more separation of channels. A sounds good gut B has more life.

No question, it's B on the first song. But honestly, I thought it might have been A on the second song. As always, thanks for sharing. Steve

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!

Very close both I find A to track a little better a very subtle less harsh on her voice very minimum difference both excellent

I know I prefer A on sample 1, voice more clear, bass more defined and less muddy. B is more muffled and noisier. I hope A is priced higher, it would only be fair.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your opinion. Will the 'A' stylus catch up with the 'B' one? 🙃

Hola Francisco!, Me gusta más como suena el Stylus B, encuentro más detalles de sonido y un soundstage más amplio.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Gracias Omar 🙂 Apunto tu voto. La semana que viene desvelaré cuál es cuál 🙂

A-EN B-SH B - the best! Mobile speakers not wrong. :)

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 🙂👍

hard time to find the difference. B may be a little better in this video with more open and balanced sound and more bass but not shure 😅

Audio-Technica AT-VM95SH

No encuentro diferencias, no sabría decir cual es cual 😮

I do not know which one is which, but I like A more.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Keystone! I'll unveil which is which in a couple of days ;)

from this test i really can't tell

Me decanto por la A, me suena más matizada y agradable

It has been my experience that you CAN NOT just jump from elliptical to shibata. When I spin vinyl under my shibata that has been played with an elliptical it takes 3 to 5 plays before the record is 'deburred' and optimal grove contact is made. Just slapping in a stylus and giving it a listen is only a subjective test. Pull out the test records and test equipment then you will have something. The old school AT Shibatas' tracked much better with a tracking weight slightly over specification. With the increased grove contact area this is of little significance to record ware. I speak from experience as I have been raking a AT Shibata for over 40 years. My hearing is fading faster than my albums are wearing out.

I prefer B !! The voice is more present and naturel...

They both sound good and I can’t really hear a big difference on my earbuds. I think it would primarily comes down to IGD, though this test tellingly doesn’t test for that. I have the ML, but I now use it on my linn k9 body, which opened the sound up dramatically. The original k9 is also an EN stylus, which I assume is very close to the current EN you have, as they were made by AT. For me it was very engaging apart from the dreaded IGD…I am interested to try the SH in my k9 body. I really like that second track you used, who is it?

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! BTW, did you download the loosless files? (see decription). That track is featured in the Cardas Frequency Sweep And Burn-In Record, it's a popular song titled 'I've Got A Feeling I'm Falling' and this version is performed by Tom Loncaric Band 🙂

@nicholas6823

Жыл бұрын

@@HiFisquarepants thanks! I will try to download but tend to only view yt on phone. Just seen the results so will listen now listen with that insight.

The sound from A is much more 3D: There is a clear separation of the instruments from the vocals making the soundstage wider and clearer. The sound from B is more muffled with considerable crosstalk and the sounds of the instruments and vocals all blend together as a single entity. There is no soundstage to speak of with B but there is this pleasant feeling you get with mono recordings as the absence of stereo gives less fatigue during listening and sets a pleasant simplicity to the sound. A is clearly the superior product as instrument separation, soundstage and details even of the vocals are overwhelmingly better than B. If A is not the Shibata then this means that there is nothing to justify its price!

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your detailed opinion 😉 I'll unveil which is which next week.

@danielcvetanov5111

Жыл бұрын

:) 😀 for me was otherwise B more wide soundstage on Lyn :/ or youtube 🤔 play with my headphones 😜 Will download the files 😉

A c'est le diamant elliptique nu et B est le diamant Shibata, que je préfère car la lecture est parfaitement fidèle, on entend pas que c'est un disque vinyle

VMN95SH 👍

B must be the shabata

Francisco, did you deleted comments of mine?

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Of course not! Let me check the 'spam' folder...

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

The 'pending review' section is empty...

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

BTW, I miss one of your comments...the one you replied to a comment by Livewire91

@paolotessarini2720

Жыл бұрын

@@HiFisquarepants I don't know, i post a comment, i see it, and then it disappears! LOL it's funny, maybe because of the word AM-AZON in my post? It's strange....

B sounds better ! From Canada.

but based on sibilance A should be ellytpical

Prefiero el sonido de la aguja A. Creo que esta es la -VM95SH.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Gracias, añado to voto por A 🙂

B is the better sounding imo

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙂 So far, the result of the voting is: A: 17 B: 24 🤷‍♂: 9 I'll unveil which is which today.

A!!!!!

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

🙂👍

Can't tell the difference. Sound same for me.

Para mi gusto personal, suena mucho mejor la B.

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Muchas gracias por opinar! Apunto tu voto. Dentro de un par o tres de días publicaré cuál es cuál en mi canal secundario 🙂

from listening on here I cant really hear any concernable difference.

B is better ,more details, sound stage is better.

I prefer A.

@ColocasiaCorm

Жыл бұрын

Now i prefer b. Whats wrong with me

@ColocasiaCorm

Жыл бұрын

B is shibata. My guess.

Yo no noto diferencias😣😣😣

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Anoto tu votación, gracias! ;) De momento B va ganando por goleada. La semana que viene desvelaré cuál es cuál en mi canal secundario y publicaré los porcentajes :)

Me quedo con A

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Gracias! 👍 Veremos cuál es cuál cuando haga el 'vídeo de desenlace' 😋

you should not post what is playing, A or B then see if anyone can hear a change. Bet they can't

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

That would be next to impossible 😝

B

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

😉👍

I hear absolutely no difference on my TV speakers

A = Shibata 😜

@HiFisquarepants

Жыл бұрын

Was this your first impression or did you change your mind for any particular reason...?

No difference.