We had an active shooter drill like this when I was a kid in elementary school, during the 99-00 school year. I was 7. They “forgot” to tell the teachers. I watched my teacher lock and block a door and prepare to die for a bunch of 7 year olds who barely tied their shoes correctly, that she huddled in the corner and told that if we played the quiet game we would all get candy. When they revealed the drill, I watched my teacher‘s knees nearly buckle, the weight of twenty little lives somehow heavier for it. She went to her desk and put her head down. She took a week of leave. I don’t blame her.

@theduckchick

Жыл бұрын

That's horrible! Glad it was only a drill, but they botched that badly!

@jamedlock83

Жыл бұрын

lmfao. . . fake story. . there is no way they forgot to tell the teachers. . . lolol

@noahcucumber4034

Жыл бұрын

@@jamedlock83 with your full name on your profile. lexington kentucky? ILL FIND YOU

@samanthamelendez8851

Жыл бұрын

Omg Alex. I'm crying my eyes out. Poor teacher.

@MountainPearls

Жыл бұрын

@@jamedlock83 as a teacher, I can confirm there have been times that they have not told us. It’s horrifying-I’ve had kids have panic attacks-even a child with diabetes whose blood sugar dropped out (at least-partially due to stress). They absolutely had nightmares later (one had autism and really had a hard time understanding and staying quiet. The child with Tourette’s felt so much guilt b/c they couldn’t stay as quiet as everyone else). While I was able to lock the door from the inside (Columbine Locks) and felt a little bit safer, we still had to bar the doors. I still didn’t know if it was real and I’d need to protect a group for 23 12 and 13 years old as a 5’2” petite woman. There have also been bomb threats in we did t know if there were bomb (etc) in the school or not. Oh, and this drill was right after Sandyhook…so it was extra terrifying for them. It absolutely happens that they “forgot to tell teachers” the principal said later to cover his own ass). The kids were not ok for months-probably ever. Fortunately, the parents (and some teachers, including me) as well as a few cops made sure he “took early retirement” after that year.

So, let me get this straight. The School can afford a drill with guns firing blanks, but can't afford counsellors? Putting aside the fact that shootings are horrible things, I would think Counsellors would be necessary.

@bwarhol

Жыл бұрын

Speaking purely financially, a drill is a one-and-done expense, while a counsellor is a recurring cost, so that's actually fairly realistic. Now, that's also incredibly short-sighted, because the cost of not HAVING counsellors is far, far higher, and it's measured in ruined lives as opposed to dollars.

@LyingTube

Жыл бұрын

An unfortunate consequence of treating symptoms instead of addressing problems

@tiffanymonique7098

Жыл бұрын

Intriguing that your take away from this scene was to make the school accountable opposed to trying to make adults accountable for guns and protecting children the school should never be put in this kind of a predicament to where they have to think about drills for a child with the act of shooter that is the job of legislators not our teachers not the principles not anyone in education their job is to make sure our children are safe from each other And themselves not guns

@seishin2900

Жыл бұрын

@@bwarhol Want to know what is sad? America will spend a thousand times over putting more guns into other countries we have no business in over the health and safety of children. The cost of a counselor is but a mere fraction when you look at the picture as a whole even though its already shown how much a difference it makes in peoples lives.

@tiffanymonique7098

Жыл бұрын

@Gi Gi I most certainly agree with you, I also understand the intent of the school's shooter drills but I also can understand the psychiatric effects of it and the long term effects of it so when our children don't want to go to school it's understood and when parents like me are forced to home school it needs to be understood and accepted a post to people saying let's arm our teachers that's my point don't make it an educational issue when it's not their only job is to protect our babies from themselves each other and stuff that may mistreat them ... not from a gun

My school did a drill and told no one. I just remembered feeling mad at a girl who wouldn't be quiet as she was crying so loud. But she was 12 and scared.

@CC-si3cr

Жыл бұрын

Don't go anywhere near that girl in an actual shooting. She'll get everyone killed crying out her location.

@Sebastianator01

Жыл бұрын

That’s understandable. Were you thinking the shooter was going to find you guys because she was crying loud?

@opinionxd

Жыл бұрын

@@Sebastianator01 most likely yeah

@orimc3859

Жыл бұрын

Schools should ALWAYS say it’s a drill because if they don’t and the school does a lot of drills then if it actually does happen then they won’t know, and could think that’s it’s only a drill

@opinionxd

Жыл бұрын

@@orimc3859 my school didn’t until they got in trouble legally

Wow that’s negligent. The school should be sued. No one told the teachers, other students, parents. OMG that’s crazy

@megangreenly3892

Жыл бұрын

I actually had a somewhat similar experience in my elementary school, the principal called a code white (weather emergency) without any warning to teachers or students, my teacher had to look up the code and procedure, I remember I wasn't too concerned until I heard the other kids next to me talking about how they thought they were going to die. That was in 3rd grade. No 3rd grader should be put in a situation where they think they're going to die. My elementary school was not a fun place.

@captainmorgan2165

Жыл бұрын

active shooter drills where you just lock the doors and keep quiet I support, but having a guy shoot blanks in the school and having a student play dead through the drill is completely unacceptable! that's my opinion.

@greenbeantm1096

Жыл бұрын

@@captainmorgan2165 especially because the student playing dead only helps if someone sees it. Even just shooting the blanks would traumatize kids but actually seeing a dead classmate/friend? That’s a whole different level. From this clip it seems like the girl in counseling was the only one to see her friend be shot, which would explain why she’s (seemingly) having a much harder time than her classmates

@dietotaku

Жыл бұрын

as a parent, i genuinely don't know what's worse - situations like this, or hearing my 4yo come home and happily chirp "we had an active shooter drill at school today!" like it was NBD. putting kids through any kind of shooter drill is insane, we should be trying to STOP the shootings, not trying to be better prepared for them.

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

Жыл бұрын

@@dietotaku agreed. They should do what abortion clinics do: have only one gun shop in every state, have parental consent to buy a gun, and have a video explaining the power that the person will wield and maybe a for a bit of extra safety: a mental health examination.

This feels less like a drill and more like psychological torture.

@greenbeantm1096

Жыл бұрын

Because that’s ultimately what it is

@Rot-6

Жыл бұрын

This had actually happened in my state It wasn’t a school though, but an office building (can’t remember the company) This dude hired several actors and actresses, then a fake gunman to go and do a “drill” for active shooting. They used fake blood as well to “get the point across” Nobody but the tippy top of the company knew. Police weren’t even notified about the drill. All of the lower level workers were going about there day and this person came running in and shooting people who were smearing themselves in fake blood. I think think they even had clients present as well. They are undergoing Severe repercussions and are forced to give there workers therapy if they need it.

@trinitylivingston1286

Жыл бұрын

@@Rot-6 who thought that would be a good idea?

@Rot-6

Жыл бұрын

@@trinitylivingston1286 the higher ups. They asked a “qualified” person to do it that was completely unqualified He ended up in jail and the company under investigation

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

Жыл бұрын

Bingo

There was a journal I read a year ago about the effects of realistic active shooter drills. The conclusion was that making the drill too realistic made it difficult for students to learn from the drill due to their fear response taking over. It also showed that realistic drills resulted in PTSD in the kids, instead of confidence in what to do if the real thing happened.

@SL-lz9jr

Жыл бұрын

I can see why those findings are what they are. As a child I didn't live in an era of prevalent school shootings. Columbine was THE ONE. But we had fire drills and earthquake drills (CA) all my life. From school to jobs. And I can tell you I still remember many of the things we were taught in those drills. And we definitely received warnings and those drills were not realistic at all. I hope more school officials have read this journal to understand that it doesn't needs to be realistic. They just need to focus on teaching children the safety protocols and why. Explaining the "why" to children is how they learn and absorb information

@sws212

Жыл бұрын

@@SL-lz9jr I mean, you don't need a research paper for this stuff, it just validates the obvious here. Fire and earthquake drills don't try to stimulate the actual event, they just teach kids what to do and that really should've been the end of it. It's so dumb to imitate that fear with a realistic active shooter event. Going into each classroom and moving desks around does the same thing without the trauma. Locking kids in a room while telling them their friends are being murdered outside is just plain demented.

@agricolaregs

Жыл бұрын

This is how I felt about tornado drills in Indiana.

@RingoSalver

Жыл бұрын

It is also damning if a shooter drill is treated as mundane. My school treated it like a fire drill where they just said where the shooter would be and the teachers would tell us to hide or show us to the exit. However I have witnessed teachers leading students right past an area that the shooter would be because they said it was safe. One was where the shooter was in the basement, but instead of taking kids out the back exit they took them to the main entrance which was right by the stairwell. There needs to be a happy medium between two extreme drill, something that actually shows people what to do in those situations while not scaring them in the process.

@stepheniemcgovern5742

Жыл бұрын

When I was in school back in my home state (rhode island) one of the schools I was in did this. My brother's and I were walking to class (same hallway) the principal said there's a active shooter. I remember it so well and I'm 33 now. I saw someone rounding to our hallway. I had to grab my brother's and we hid in the closet near a classroom. When they said the drill is over we didn't hear anything due to moving stuff infront of the door and covering our ears. We were eventually found but they only found us because of a puddle. It took some time and convincing to get us out ( i grabed the pencili had in hand and stabed a teacher). They ended up calling our mom to come get us. They didnt really tell her why.The school tried to play it down but my mom before going into Mr.B, we'll call him, office I and my siblings ran to her and told her what happened. Now my mom was never violent to anyone she was the kinda person that everyone would talk to. Well Mr B shut the office door and we waited in the hallway. We could hear my my screaming at him and then silence. My mom comes out and tells the receptionist to call an ambulance for mr.B. I didn't know what happened till a officer came to talk to our mom. We didn't go back to that school and from what I have been told that school is no longer open. But I know my mom told the other parents what happened and none were happy. And my mom did get arrested but everything was dropped due to what caused my mom to hit him.

Our school did this with fake blood and more. I was 16. I had a mental breakdown. They didn’t tell us. And I thought I would watch everyone I cared about in that class die. I started preparing myself to die for my friends. Fight or die. I still have to go to therapy at 24. I still have nightmares about watching my friends die. I still to this day make sure I know all exits in a building. Make sure I know who would need help first. The school said it made me “prepared” my therapist said it made me a paranoid child who felt death was always on the table when I went to school.

@joshuahudson2170

Жыл бұрын

And they can't pay damages either because if they had to the school would be bankrupt. I'm sorry.

@trinitylivingston1286

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't make you prepared, just scared and it also makes kids not take an actual active shooter lockdown seriously.

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

Жыл бұрын

Ugh, the fact they never even gave compensation is really bugging my soul!

@mariakelly90210

2 күн бұрын

I am so sorry about what your school did to you. It was beyond disgusting.

I'll never forget: 7th grade, the principal spoke over the speaker system that we were on lockdown, no one knew it was happening and the biggest concern was his voice. He sounded like he was going to cry. Our teacher locked the door, we all crowded to one corner of the room. She turned the lights off and then she stood by the door. She told us that if anyone came through that door she would fight for us. All of us thought it was just another drill, so we quietly whispered among eachother and played on out phones. Until we heard loud bangs echo from down the hall, and it went absolutely silent. Some of us began to cry, most of us began to text our families. We were on the second floor, the catwalk was visible through the long window that spanned one wall of the classroom. Everyone panicked even more when we saw a swat team maneuvering across the catwalk. Someone banged on our door loudly at least five times, one of the girls I knew screamed, her friend tried to quiet her. Our teacher with a wavering voice, said she was going to start putting us in the supply closet. The supply closet was small, we knew not all of us could fit in there. "Let me in!" The guy on the otherside of the door said. Everyone went as quiet as they possibly could, nothing else happened. Twenty minutes later the principal called over the loud speaker that it was a drill and that the local sheriff's department was practicing a mock school shooter safety exam. Half of us went home early because our parents thought it was legit and they rushed to the school to come get us. Our teachers had no choice but to stay, but I know my science teacher was shaken for weeks. The administration got in trouble for what they did, but all of us were messed up after it.

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

Жыл бұрын

Ugh! Why are people so stupid?! Would it have hurt to tell you guys what was going on? No, it would not have!

@qveenora3

Жыл бұрын

That’s messeD up they know SCHOOL SHOOTINGS NOTHING TO PLAY W THAT CAUSES REAL LIFE PSTD .. wouldn’t be suprised if that school lost almost all students after that day just Idiots

@shibadawn

11 ай бұрын

I can't believe that. Where I'm at, i'm pretty sure lock down tests and fire alarm drills have to be disclosed. They can surprise you with the time but have to tell you it's happening some point that day. I've never had anything that crazy, just follow protocol and wait. Worst thing that happened was someone came in with a knife and got as far as the first entrance. I'm glad that's all I had to worry about where I'm from.

@emilianaflores5209

10 ай бұрын

I remember in 7th grade in art class we had a lockdown the reason why wasn’t so clear it had appeared that the construction area of our school was being robbed but after words I found out we got a bomb threat and had it been real I could’ve died bcs it was in the bathroom in my section of the school I’m so grateful it was false because I might have not been here today

@ColorsofHopeCraftsASMR

9 ай бұрын

I’m so sorry that happened. Every active shooter drill I’ve been part of we knew it was a drill. It’s inexcusable that they did it that way.

Luckily, the SWAT team came in time for us. No one was physically shot to death… but we were still held hostage at gun point for almost two hours, begging with our classmate to let the younger students go, while he was forcing our teacher to read his manifesto out loud… still affects me almost 15 years later. I sympathize with anyone being put through this as ‘preparation’. No one deserves to experience an active school shooter - no one. **Thanks for listening 🙏 I was shocked to see the likes today. Stay safe everyone~

@tinz8526

Жыл бұрын

Dude that's actually crazy. Mind sharing more incident information. There must be a case file about it

@buckwheatusfeatus4825

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry. Trauma is a horrible thing. When I was 3 years old, I was attacked by an older kid and he cut my face and arm with broken glass. Up until recently (40 plus years later), my counselor said that the reason I have always gravitated to violent and gore websites, graphic photos (like in newspapers, etc.) was I was 'unknowingly reliving my trauma'. Once I realized that's what I was doing, I was able to let go of the websites. Sometime I still want to look, but I'm able to stop a lot sooner than 4 hours later.

@snowangeliquexx

Жыл бұрын

Which school

@ethananderson2327

Жыл бұрын

When was that?

@Bonesph

Жыл бұрын

What school?

I remember my english teacher telling us that our school was going to try to do a drill like this but first they did it during the summer with the teachers and had some other people of different departments help to just to see how the teachers would react (they knew what was going on dw) and she told me once it was over basically everyone was just like "We cannot do this to kids even if its just a drill"

@SL-lz9jr

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like that school did the responsible thing by testing it out over the summer. And then realizing it was not suitable as a drill. Sadly it sounds like some schools didn't do the same thing.

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

Жыл бұрын

Thank everything they actually have common sense. Something I worry people are lacking.

@Wanhope2

Ай бұрын

@@SL-lz9jrI’m with Iggy here it’s an impossible (almost) predicament

There’s a difference between preparing students and teachers, and scaring them, terrifying them and disrupting their lives over nothing. School shootings are traumatizing, and it’s heartbreaking to know we have to be so prepared to endure one, but through practice kids will be prepared without feeling terrified in their everyday lives, and should the need for that practice ever come they will feel safer in knowing how to apply what they’ve practiced.

I feel bad for that girl. I was a substitute teacher at a high school when Parkland happened, and since then, I have had nightmares about there being a school shooting and not being able to help the kids.

@calliethomas2296

Жыл бұрын

That’s awful, I’m so so sorry you had witness that and experience those dreams.

@theuzumakikay8647

Жыл бұрын

I’m so sorry that happened to you 💔

@ColorsofHopeCraftsASMR

9 ай бұрын

@@theuzumakikay8647 Thanks. I was working at a high school in Illinois at the time of the Parkland shooting. And something about that shooting got our students activated and wanting to do something about gun violence. I was so proud of the actions they took to combat it.

It kills me at the end of the clip when he apologizes to her for the way adults are failing children. I've made similar comments when shootings have occurred. Absolutely true that this is an adult problem and we're all forcing kids to bear the burden of our failures to address it. "Thoughts and prayers" are meaningless and I'm glad kids call adults out on using it as a response. They really are the hope for the future. Kids deserve to feel safe at school, and adults are absolutely failing them.

@rustyhowe3907

Жыл бұрын

Especially when kids are forced into these institutions, they NEED to be safe inside them.

What annoys me most IRL is that we are forced to work through traumatic events so frequently we get numb too it. I have had to adapt as someone who has PTSD by lowering my defense instincts so I can remain productive. Around 2 weeks ago maybe, my University had a bomb threat and they only evacuated 2 buildings so we had to just keep working in the buildings within a 50 ft radius. Most students either went home without an excused absence or used humor to cope. I just do not know if we will be able to react appropriately if someone ever follows through with their threats bc we have to brush it off otherwise we would be traumatized by every threat and drill which are quite frequent.

@greenbeantm1096

Жыл бұрын

Tbh it’s like the general public is receiving military training at this point. How we’re having to teach kids to arm themselves because if they can hold off the shooter for even a little other classmates could escape? That’s the same thing as if teaching soldiers to throw themselves on a grenade if there’s one thrown their way, sure you’ll die but you might save a few people.

@pamelaj.betz-baron2420

Жыл бұрын

((HUGS))

@trinitylivingston1286

Жыл бұрын

I've had a multitude of traumatic things happen to me and a few did include the fear of their being a school shooting or whatever that day either where I attended school/worked or where my loved ones attended school/work. Having to work through it sucked too.

@tacticallemon7518

Жыл бұрын

What kind of annoys me more is the crowd that says “it’s the price of freedom” *I’m* paying for *your* “freedom” Why don’t *you* pay for my counseling then? It’s only fair

I feel so sorry for that girl, I know how it feels to be in a school shooter drill it's scary when someone knocks at the door of the classroom, the light are out, and your trying to stay quiet until the drill is over. But the good thing is they rarely happened so I don't have to worry so much about them.

@435cyberteam9

Жыл бұрын

Man the fact that you have to have drills and practice on what to do in case someone comes into your school with a gun just proves that things need to change. I can understand fire or tornado drills, because they are things that happen and can't be helped. But a school shooting is easily preventable, and the fact that they'd rather kids practice on what to do in the event of a shooter rather than fixing the issue says a lot. (btw, this isn't me saying drills shouldn't happen, because kids should be aware of what to do in the event this does happen, it's just depressing that they have to happen in the first place)

@rosiero731

Жыл бұрын

@@435cyberteam9 we had IOC (intruder on campus) drills a lot but we always knew they were happening. I think it's kinda messed up not to tell anyone that a drill is gonna take place.

@435cyberteam9

Жыл бұрын

@@rosiero731 Oh yea, don't get me wrong a "surprise" drill is so wrong in every way. Like they say in the video, it's not the danger that traumatises people, it's the thought of being in danger that does. The normal, planned drills are probably useful though.

@Chikai-Akuma

Жыл бұрын

I had a odd drill when I was in high school….., it was called KCOSC (Killer clowns on school grounds)

@greenbeantm1096

Жыл бұрын

I remember in elementary school we had a surprise drill when I was in 3rd grade. This was early 2000’s so before shootings were as big of an issue as they are now. The only one I was ever there for (I was homeschooled but took a few classes at the public schools my whole life) was during art class and I got there early, so my art teacher told me it was going to happen because she had no idea if I knew these drills existed. I remember sitting over by the sinks and kids whispering to each other of if we thought it was real or not. I can’t remember if my teacher told me not to tell anyone or if I just instinctively knew I shouldn’t but I remember being entertained hearing the debates of why it may or may not be real. I can’t imagine how different the reactions would be now a days when kids are going to school with bulletproof backpacks… it’s crazy how my specific grade (and a few others) got to experience the whole spectrum of these drills. We went from “this is never going to happen” to being juniors in high school during march for our lives where we all knew it could easily happen.

Two weeks ago, there was a former student who shot a professor at our university. I cannot stop thinking what the students would have felt if they were this young, and very impressionable. A tear rolled around my eye, as I watched this. He rightly said "Trauma does not happen because you are in danger because you think you are !"

@Amanda-ky7mo

Жыл бұрын

are you from that one university where it happened during class but they still made everyone keep attending? I think it was kansas but I do not remember well.

@sarataylor683

Жыл бұрын

This happened in Tucson around that time. Is that what you are thinking of?

@piratetoast53

Жыл бұрын

U of A. It was a horrifying situation, the communication breakdown between campus officials and TPD was so upsetting. I know a bunch of kids didn't find out through the school, but through Twitter while the event was happening.

@swathimenon9538

Жыл бұрын

@@sarataylor683 yes indeed.

I lived in a really small town with hardly any problems, it was when I was in middle school that it happened. I remember going to class like normal and everything being fine, the next the intercom comes one and the receptionist is fighting back tears as she tells us it's not a drill. I also remember huddling to one side of the classroom with everyone else as a few boys and teacher stack desks to protect the most of us as possible. The lights switching off, the first firework sound going off, the loud banging on the door as the teacher and few boys find weapons to defend themselves and possibly protect us. The trying to mental prepare myself for the worse and the 4 long hours that felt like entirely too long. More firework sounds.... all to finally the window in the back of the classroom being carefully smashed opened and us being rushed to safety with our hands in the air. The shooter had ended up getting into our classroom not much longer after the teacher got out and ran towards the officers. Our classroom became a crime scene and was closed off for the rest of the year.... it still haunts me how close to death I and everyone in my class were to death.

@tonyameredith7081

Жыл бұрын

I am so sorry that you and everyone else had to go through that! I pray every day that these horrific events do not happen again. I also pray you all find peace.

@nata3467

Жыл бұрын

I am so absolutely sorry that you had to go through this.

@pamelaj.betz-baron2420

Жыл бұрын

((HUGS)) I'm so sorry you went through that!

@adiadean9962

Жыл бұрын

I’m so sorry you had to live through that? NO one should ever have to experience that EVER

@lgbtqmatters4480

Жыл бұрын

sorry u had to go through that. hope u r doing ok

Had an active shooter at work a few years ago, and it was so terrifying. I was 26, I couldn't imagine going through a simulation of it (or a real one) as a kid.

@ILOVEMARILYNMANSON89

Жыл бұрын

god, i'm so sorry that happened to you and everyone else there. horrible. it's so scary that work places and schools are huge targets.

Back when I was in High School, my school did a "drill" about drunk driving, and looking back, it was absolutely HORRIBLE!! They made an announcement that morning that one of our classmates had been killed the night before in a drunk driving accident. People were crying and grieving because none of us knew that it was fake. They then had her "spirit" (her dressed up to look mangled and bloody) show up randomly in the halls throughout the day!! They didn't tell everyone that it was staged until the end of the day..

@ChanCantBeCHANged

Жыл бұрын

Wish I could say the bomb in the school a few months later was fake. It wasn't..and those weren't even some of the worst things that happened! When I think back and remember some of this stuff, I'm like dang, my school was CRAZY!!

@kezia-lemonthorne2507

Жыл бұрын

That's way too much overkill. Couldn't they just show photos to the students like a normal person? Show stadistics? Informative videos?

@starscream4812

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s definitely sadistic

@HamiltonIsLife

Жыл бұрын

That’s fucking weird. But my school did a similar thing and had us with a beat up car and kids dressed bloody very similar

@shannonhughes203

Жыл бұрын

Am I completely justified in thinking that what you just said is even more messed up than what was in this video? What they did to you and your classmates is actually downright disgusting and disgraceful. What in the name of the lord was the intended message there? I mean, yeah, don’t drink and drive but…”don’t drink and drive because you’ll be inflicting grief on so many people if you do kill someone”? I hope that’s what they meant. Either way, they could have said that in a much better way.

Bro, that lady took drills too far.

@unknown-tm6ul

Жыл бұрын

i mean, this happens.

@Dragonraiser11

Жыл бұрын

There is definitely a better way to do drills.

@elizabethbaldwin5226

Жыл бұрын

@@unknown-tm6ul so we gonna pre-traumatize our kids now?

@Shawdeezy21

Жыл бұрын

@@elizabethbaldwin5226 so we’re gonna shugar coat the drills so much, kids. Panick when the real thing happens

@arolurker3511

Жыл бұрын

@@Shawdeezy21 the point of drills isn’t to sugarcoat the danger or to scare kids. It’s teaching kids what to do and having them practice, so that if/when there’s a real emergency, they know what to do even if they go into panic mode.

A friend of mine had his 6 year old son come home crying and saying he could no longer wear his favorite shoes to school. They were bright orange tennis shoes and the boy loved them, but after one of these drills, he said he was afraid the brightly-colored shoes would make him too visible a target for a shooter. He threw them under his bed and never wore them again.

I experienced my daughter's first "code red" drill with her when she was in kindergarten because I was volunteering in her classroom. There was no one acting out anything. The teacher had all the kids get in a place in the classroom where they were completely hidden (I later learned every classroom is set up so there is a "hidden" area). The teacher explained that it was a DRILL similar to a fire drill, no actual reason to be scared. She then had to tell 5 and 6 year olds why they were having this drill. Even knowing it was not real many kids started crying. After the drill was over my daughter's teacher whispered to me that if there were ever an actual school shooting the first one in the classroom to die would be her because she would do anything to protect her kids

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

Жыл бұрын

Why the heck do they have these drills with kids so young! I know it’s for their safety, but aren’t they worried the kids could be severely traumatized?

@xxwhispersxx2856

Жыл бұрын

Most certainly fight, but she shouldn't just throw herself in front of the shooter, her students will die anyway. That happened at Newtown, one teacher threw herself in front of the shooter, and most of her students lost their lives anyways.

This was one of the reasons why I left teaching preschool after 7 years of doing it. We started doing INTENSE active shooter drills in training without kids on campus, and pretty much they drilled into my head I needed to fight for my students if the intruder got through the door somehow. So I was armed with a hammer, waiting to jump out at an attacker if they somehow got through the locked doors. I didn't have time to barricade like the other classrooms. I was the first classroom from the main office, and they usually moved so FAST during the drills. They used blanks that they shot off, screamed, banged on the doors... And we would all be shaking by the end of it. When students were on campus, they called the drills, we had to get the kids in the closets, and they didn't have the blanks... But they did bang on the door. And if they got into our classroom because we didn't hear the drill over the radio, they'd look at us teachers and go "You're dead." Never happened to me, but it scared me enough to keep the lock on my classroom on, and use a magnet to keep it accessible until it was time for the drill. After what happened in Uvalde, it was too close to home for me. And the reality of why we were doing the drills set in. And I knew it wasn't going to get better. I was teaching summer school, and I would see reports every day of intruders trying to (or being sucessful at) break into summer camps And I had panic attacks every time I went to school for a few weeks. My adopted parents begged me to resign, especially after I told them what I do in the drills to prepare for if the intruder got through the locked door. I couldn't keep doing this with my 3-5 year olds.... We have kids as young as 2 at the school.... I had one little student run with me to the door when they announced a drill, cause she was so scared... No matter how much I prepped the kids and talked to them and told them what was going to happen when the drills were called, and why. Never giving them the gory details, just enough to say if they announce an intruder, it was a person who was not nice, and we needed to move fast and quiet to the closets and hide.... I couldn't deal with the stresses of teaching AND being on edge and preparing for the worst each day... It was not an easy descision to leave... I felt like I was forced into being a soldier... No longer a preschool teacher.

@DollfaceLizkah

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry you went through this and I hope you can heal. This is terrible. The country is failing its people

@trinitylivingston1286

Жыл бұрын

We had a real threat like that at one of the other daycares that owner of the daycare I worked at owned. The guy was a former parent who was angry and making claims that center was abusing the kids. He at one point keyed that directors car, he even walked nearby the property armed with a gun, etc. They somehow found out that the owners oldest son attended college in Las Vegas and threatened to hurt him. I also remember us not being allowed to bring the kids outside or anything. The news broadcasted it and it was all over social media and they even had a march and stuff. Imagine feeling like you have a target on your back for several weeks. I've also had it to where other abusive parents would come in looking for their kids and one had custody and the other didn't. It was scary having some of them hiding in my room. That and when I was in elementary or middle school, I remember that there was a real lock down but I don't remember why. I think it was because someone was speeding real fast around the different schools or something. We had to sit there for almost an hour. I'm sorry that happened to you and I think I would immediately quit if that were me after all the real experiences I had like that.

@novakaizr

Жыл бұрын

It is infuriating how teachers are expected to be not only teachers but also therapists and soldiers, all on minimum wage, just because some people are turned on by metal sticks that go bang

Not a real school shooting, but a real school bombing threat for my district. I had an argument with my mother that day. Kills me to think that words of anger in the moment could have been my last words to her...

as someone from the Netherlands, I have never had a school shooting drill, and I've never been afraid of a school shooting. I'm so incredibly sorry for everyone that has had to go through either, and quite honestly, it shocks me that this is considered normal (but also, why is this therapist so much more useful than my therapist-)

@redscrunchie222

Жыл бұрын

The worst part in American schools, every kid knows there’s a possibility of it happening, no one just expects it to, even those who fear it, they still don’t expect it.

@prowlandsasuke

11 ай бұрын

Its really not scary when you are told about the drill. I dont know why people make a big deal out of a 2 minute drill. Unlike what the media wants to portray school shootings dont happen everyday here in the states.

@monkeythemooch141

9 ай бұрын

I’ve never personally been in a shooting, but I did have 2 separate bomb threats that lead us to being evacuated, and my brother had a legit lock down bc of an escaped pensioner in the woods that surrounded the school, this is the same school that I went to a few years later that had many of the teachers not knowing the difference between restricted movement and a full lock down, so that was fun (for any who don’t know restricted movement generally just means don’t go in the hall, usually bc an ambulance was called and they don’t want people getting in the way)

@akutskikiller15

5 ай бұрын

​@@prowlandsasuke Dude. The highest cause of death for children in the US is school shootings. The media doesnt over play it. It IS that bad.

@xiphocostal

3 ай бұрын

Well not EVERYDAY, I mean every 3-4 days 🙄. O, and those are only the ones causing death and injury. ( as of Feb 14 2024, 8 school shootings causing death or injury since Christmas break

I recently worked as a substitute teacher in elementary schools in Illinois. The principals would announce the security drills in advance. All of the students were aware that it was a drill. There were no actors with fake or real weapons in the hallways. All of the students in my classes cooperated.

When she said " we have received your thoughts and prayers" i lost it lmao

This kind of trauma can cause someone to have delayed reactions. This isn't preparation.

I feel scared to send my child to school these days. This world is a terrifying place and it's only getting worse 😞

@meglawv6150

Жыл бұрын

I feel scared to go

@jaredf6205

Жыл бұрын

Makes me want to raise my kids in another country.

@veggies2389

Жыл бұрын

you know whats scarier, an ectual shooting but I don't agree with that realistic of shooter drills just schools can take precautions without traumatizing children

@jeremyhillaryboob4248

Жыл бұрын

@@jaredf6205 The Netherlands is a good option, they have the happiest kids in earth.

@parkplaceninja

Жыл бұрын

@@jaredf6205 go ahead then

It’s heart breaking the fact that it’s all these kids who’s just been dealing with all this ptsd and trauma alone. It makes you think about how many kids irl are exactly the same way

My sibling has mentioned this. It has traumatized all of the students, and even in university now, the decision to announce a drill v not announcing a school shooting drill is heavily contested. I am a nurse and we learn how to do CPR and ACLS under stress by first learning all of the steps, correct methods - all so it's engrained in our muscles and minds. Then, we act them out on mannequins. We have information thrown at us and we have to know the answers; if not, we go through them all again. It's a team effort, and it is trained into us so we are comfortable. The first time I found someone on the floor, I immediately knew what I had to do. It was a team, and we all knew how to talk to each other. We did the best that we could, and it doesn't always work, but it is something to be learned outside of stress. We train, just like the military, police officers, firefighters, and so many others that have to remain calm during life-threatening events. To have kids go through it, to risk it being realistic, it isn't worth it.

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. We should just control who owns guns.

We had a lockdown at my high school in Australia when a dog was roaming in the canteen. Plus we had a couple of bushfire drills. That's the most we had to be scared about. Makes you grateful to not have to go through this.

I'm Irish, is this seriously a thing where they have students pretend to be shot and a shooter shooting blanks to "prepare" kids for this?

@acolytetojippity

Жыл бұрын

no. well...i'm almost certain it has been done. but it's not a normal thing. intruder drills involve a coded announcement being made over the intercom (normally requesting a specific "Name" to report to a location in the school ("Dr. Everest report to the cafeteria")) and then teachers locking their classroom doors, having students hide out of line of sight of the classroom door with the lights turned off to make it look unoccupied. I can't imagine a school going as far as what's shown in this show, but I am sure someone tried it somewhere, unfortunately.

@ilyaalister8193

Жыл бұрын

It didn’t used to be like this. When i was in high school it was an announcement and then we had to hide till the principal said it was over. My brother is younger than me by 11 years. He goes to the same school i did. His drill was vary similar to the one described however the students were aware that it was a drill. Nerf guns were used and participating students had Gunshot wounds drawn on paper placed on them. My brother had nightmares for weeks.

@aWywardWyvern

Жыл бұрын

I can’t say for sure it has NEVER been done (which is horrifying) but it’s certainly not the standard way the drills happen. Typically it’s just an announcement done over the TVs/speakers, the teacher locks the classroom door and covers anyway to see into the classroom. The students get to either a corner or some hiding spot and you wait until the drill is done. The most extreme I’ve seen is students practicing barricading the doors with their desks.

@greenbeantm1096

Жыл бұрын

This isn’t how most schools do drills but realistic drills do happen. On another video I watched about school shootings someone commented how their school had drills where someone would go around with a nerf gun (or something of the sort). Some schools do have realistic drills but I think mostly it’s just not saying it’s a drill. My high school always told us it was a drill. We just be brought to wherever in the classroom we were supposed to hide and stay there for a little bit then go out side once “the coast was clear” aka the teacher told us too. One thing that’s nice with my school is there’s doors you can exit from around basically the entire building (you have to unlock them to get in from outside but can exit no problem) so there are very few classrooms/places in the school that’d you’d have to travel more than 30 seconds to leave the building.

@Butterflier00

Жыл бұрын

i didn't personally experience it...but i wouldn't be shocked if this has actually happened at least once.

And its honestly a big issue that teachers would have to feel they need to go to these lengths to prepare their children for school shootings, they should be the last thing anyone expects.

I've never heard of this, this would be like for a fire drill you fill the hallways up with smoke.

@arolurker3511

Жыл бұрын

For a tornado drill, hire someone to throw furniture and smash walls with a sledgehammer.

I was a camp councillor and I had two girls who were in school shooting and when we watched the 4th of July fireworks I never even registered that they would be terrified of the bangs. I feel so sorry for American kids and even more their parents.

I’m i the only one crying because all the kids were going down to him

My highschool did something like this one year. I was on the bottom floor near the door so I heard a bunch of people run in screaming and like sounds of a struggle. It was scary but it didn't feel real to me. I think I kind of blocked it mentally. When we found out it was fake everyone was so mad.

I didn’t even know active shooter drills like that even happened. I’m not sure if it’s lucky that I’m a millennial (was in school from mid 90’s to mid 00’s) who never experienced any active shooter drills, even though I went to high school post-Columbine. I remember countless fire drills and since I’m in a tornado prone area, frequent tornado drills. But even with those it was always announced in the morning that the drill would happen at some point during the day, just so we wouldn’t be scared and panic. I understand that treating an active shooter drill seriously is important but come on. Is it worth absolutely destroying children’s minds? Just so they take it seriously and are “prepared?” If anything, it teaches any potential shooter students exactly where the safe spaces are and what the protocol is. And it obviously breaks any trust between students and staff because of the extreme trauma over a false emergency. If we aren’t going to do something to prevent school shootings, which is obviously the preferred option, the least we can do is teach and prepare students in a way that doesn’t traumatize them.

@greenbeantm1096

Жыл бұрын

Yea shooter drills in general just teach shooters where to look tbh. At least if they went to the school at one time. My senior year after a drill in one of my classes we were talking about how stupid it was that we just went like 4 feet from the building and how if a real one happened we’d be bolting into town/the woods around our school. Out teacher told us how that’s just where we go for a drill, but there’s actually an area off campus that the staff know to bring everyone too if a real one happens. When we asked why we didn’t go there during drills she told us “one because it’s too long a walk for it to be worth it for a drill, it would just waste class time walking there and back when it’s not real. Two because if we went there then the intruder would know where to find everyone after the building was empty”

@SL-lz9jr

Жыл бұрын

I grew up in the exact same time period. Replace tornado drills with earthquake drills (cuz, California). We were lucky in that school shootings were an anomaly then. Something shifted in our culture and society. Children are more anxious today and more depressed. It wasn't that children didn't experience anxiety or depression when we were kids because I definitely remember experiencing some of these things. And children back then certainly had access to guns. But somehow that has grown exponentially. I once had a colleague whose younger sister went to Sandyhook Elementary during that massacre. She grew up to be a fine young woman, but I'll bet it changed her life forever. I agree with some of your criticisms. It seems so unnecessary to traumatize children. I still remember all the teachings from the earthquake drills. In fact, I was fairly prepared early on for Covid because I thought to stock up on nonperishable food before we started running out of food and everything was pandemonium. Because as a kid growing up in earthquake prone city, I was always taught to have an emergency food supply. I think kids will subconsciously learn and remember certain aspects from active shooter drills. They don't need to reenact something that seems too real. They can be trusted to do what they need to do if a real one ever happens. Until then, all drills should be announced. All parents should be notified.

@trinitylivingston1286

Жыл бұрын

One of the last shootings that happened. The shooter asked his little second cousin questions about his school. The mom thought nothing of it until awhile when the shooter shot up the school his second cousin attended. I think he asked or it somehow led to him finding out where the kids would all hide during lockdowns. The shooter was around my age and the second cousin was in elementary or middle school I believe.

@ILOVEMARILYNMANSON89

Жыл бұрын

i grew up the same era as you and you'd think we would have done that after Columbine, but we just didn't and i'm grateful for that. now that i have nieces and a nephew in school they're doing these drills. since preschool for them. i do appreciate that their schools are way more secure to outside threats, but i don't know what to think of them dealing with the drills. my one niece has special needs and definitely doesn't understand what's going on and that scares me most of all.

@theuzumakikay8647

Жыл бұрын

I started school in 2004 and the first school shooting drill I had was in 2007. And it was similar to this except none of the kids were in on it. They had a kid’s parent come to do it. And my teacher ended up letting him in cause she knew him and she got in trouble. Cause if it were real she would have just let in the shooter and gotten us all killed🤦🏽‍♀️ she felt awful

As someone living in a country where there’s strict gun control and school shooting don’t exist this terrifies and saddens me. Kids shouldn’t have the fear that there’s a high chance they could be killed at school, kids should be and feel safe at school

@dietotaku

Жыл бұрын

i wish i lived in a country like that. i wish i knew how to make my fellow americans understand that they lose nothing from strict gun control except needless deaths and trauma.

@tomanyfandoms1726

Жыл бұрын

@@dietotaku the only way that will happen is if Americans stop being so paranoid, and with things like 9/11 still being fresh in people’s minds and those with influence stirring people up into frenzies, that’s not gonna happen anytime soon. There’s also the problem with the lack of education on gun control, Australians still have guns but only those who truely need them have them, and even then there’s strict rules on how to store guns and ammunition. And the main problem is with America’s push for freedom, many Americans believe that because they live in the country of the free they can do whatever they want regardless of consequences. And when consequences occur, they either blame the school, find some group to scapegoat on, talk about how shootings don’t change their right to bare arms or say it was a hoax.

@sophiacousland3452

Жыл бұрын

As an American I have this to say. Personally, gun control isn’t really the problem. I’m all for keeping guns out of the hands of those who shouldn’t have them. But guns should not be taken away. We have guns so that we can protect ourselves and our families from criminals who will always find ways to break the laws and get a gun, and protect ourselves from an overreaching government. We have the Second Amendment in our Constitution for that reason, so that no matter the threat we will not be defenseless.

@tomanyfandoms1726

Жыл бұрын

@@sophiacousland3452 so why is it incredibly rare for people who live in countries with strict gun control to be killed by guns. The last mass shooting Australia had was in 2019 where 4 people died, the most recent American mass shootings were on the of 1st January 2022 where 7 separate incidents happened. And don’t blame Mexico because they actually have a lot less mass shootings then America. And ‘protecting’ yourself from criminals who have easy access to guns due to people like you allowing them easy access to gun, doesn’t justify the death of hundreds per year. Also gun control doesn’t take away all of your guns, people on rural properties or farms and those who have live stock at risk of being hunted are going to have access to a gun. Gun control also focuses on how to secure your guns, how many Americans actually properly store their gun, aka unloaded and in a seperate case to ammunition so kids can’t shoot themselves or others. All of your problems are caused by you not properly protecting yourselves or your families. You don’t try to fix your government, you don’t try to fix the police force, you don’t try to stop the trade of illegal items, you don’t try to care about the mental health of the youth and you don’t try to stop the source of crime (poverty). All you care about is being able to do whatever you want without having to care about the consequences, even when those consequences involve the death of children.

@dietotaku

Жыл бұрын

@@tomanyfandoms1726 it's worse than that, the most recent mass shooting in America was a couple of days ago. We average about 2 mass shootings a week, and we don't even hear about most of them.

These poor kids. When I was in school 1,000 years ago, we never had to worry about this. The most we were concerned with was being caught smoking.

@PuffKitty

Жыл бұрын

and nobody had a cow if you had a gun rack in your truck

@trinitylivingston1286

Жыл бұрын

@@PuffKitty true but most kids in my home state would forget after they had spent all weakened hunting animals. Some teachers knew but didn't care because they knew that the kids had forgotten. My older sister told me about how some kid forgot that he had brought his gun in his truck bed after he spent the weekend hunting so he called his mom or dad to come get it and a teacher overheard his conversation with his parent and got freaked out. I think their might've been a lockdown because of it and the kid got in trouble.

This entire thing is heartbreaking. I’m not in the US so when I was in school we never dealt with anything remotely like this, but I remember seeing a drama show recently that depicted a school shooting and I, a horror fan, felt absolutely sick afterwards. I can’t imagine what it would be like to have to experience a drill like that, let alone the real thing.

"I'll be damned if my kids aren't prepared" but failed to prepare them for the drill by informing them ahead of time lol

I've been through an active shooter drill at work and I remember the ones from when I was in school but we were told beforehand that there was going to be a drill. Fire, tornado and other emergency drills, we were warned. You are suppose to be aware a drill would happen. I am all for being prepared in this dangerous world that we now live in but the school did wrong by not giving a warning.

Iggy was amazing and so was the girl. It's so sad that we have to be scared to send our children to school nowadays. I went through school without any drills except fire and tornado (the usuals). No wonder my gf's son wants to be homeschooled.

Everyone in my school knew there was a drill the next week but when they called for an active shooter we figured they moved it. It wasn’t until the principal came on the intercom and told us it wasn’t a drill, everyone in the class got super quiet and people started to cry I remember sending the text to my parents telling them I loved them and preparing myself to fight and run. About 30 minutes after I sent the text, they called it off when the alarm went off no one moved this was after parkland so everyone was scared. My mom was the only one to tell me what actually happened and I became the person to convey information because even the teachers didn’t know what happened. What happened was a man (who’s kid was a student who lived in the neighborhood) shot his wife and was walking to the school when he unalived himself. So the faculty put us on lockdown till the scene was taken over by cops. I still remember the feeling when I sent the text. (The wife survived)

Incredible episode loved how this man came to this school to address this issue!

This episode makes me wanna cry, like they are obviously actors but these poor babies 😭

I remembwr once when i was little, our school had an emergency actually happen. Some guy walked in and we all hid in our classrooms. Turns out it was just a parent looking for their kid, but they didn't check with the office first. Scary, but so thankful it turned out to be nothing serious.

One of my friends in high school had been in an incident with a gun, I remember how terrified he was when we had to do shooting drills- he begged teachers to let him opt out but it was never an option. We did more shooting drills than fire drills

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

Жыл бұрын

Those teachers are idiots! Surprised no one sued for the kid for forcing him through this trauma replay.

We had a lockdown drill in elementary school, but because it was in the middle of recess, half of us didn’t hear it and were freaking out. Mind you, this was the first emergency drill that I had ever experienced and could remember. I remember running into a nearby bathroom and literally climbing on top of the toilet so nobody could see my feet. Then a teacher came in and told us to go to the nearest classroom instead. I bolted out of there so fast, I bet you could see where my feet were when I started running out of the bathroom. I ran into the closest room and my teacher was in there with about 2 other teachers and about 40 other kids as we had pretty large classrooms at that school. I sat in front of the whiteboard next to her and started sobbing and shaking so hard she said she thought I was going to throw up. Little did I know, I was experiencing my first anxiety attack. My teacher tried to explain that it was a drill but I couldn’t hear anything over the sound of my own heart pounding and a ringing in my ears that wouldn’t stop. Now, almost 10 years later, when I heard my brother, who was in eighth grade at the time, had a real lockdown (there was a person in a onesie that covered their face on a scooter just standing outside of the school for about an hour and they had already been made aware of a gun threat on that specific day), I couldn’t stop thinking about it during school and got in trouble in one of my classes for zoning out. I was only 8 years old at that first drill, but it had a lasting impact that still affects me to this day.

I remember that my grade school would use the name of the superintendent for the school district as the name of the "bad guy" we had to hide from. My parents didn't know until the superintendent called the parents of the district for some meeting and the call was on our answering machine and I got scared that the "bad guy" called my house. I'm pretty sure a lot of parents had the same scenario at home cause I don't remember them using a name when they would explain how the drill would work after that.

@elysianfields8461

Жыл бұрын

No doubt! That's too confusing. Just crazy.

@makmcdermott

Жыл бұрын

At a school my mom was a VP at, they used the name of a former Head of Education for the School Board as the trigger word, for teachers to lock down class rooms. They would ask for "x" to call the office. Well, one day after school was dismissed this person was actualy in the building and they needed him to call the office - and put that over the PA. Needless to say, the office got a bunch of calls from teachers still in the building wondering what was up.

@trinitylivingston1286

Жыл бұрын

Why would they use peoples actual names? I would hate to be the person whose name was used for that.

Intruder Drills terrified me back from elementary to high school. I'm glad they were nothing like what happened on the show. It's just the alarms and just being in the dark and being forced to be crowded with my classmates was what scared me. I have autism and there is some things that definitely scare me at times. Mostly it is alarms and just being near so many people. If the active shooter drills actually did happen at my high school, I probably would have wanted to get out of the school as far away as possible.

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

Жыл бұрын

Can I just say America is being stupid by not hiding the guns from these types of people, who would do this to kids?

One of my classmates was in a school shooting we had a lockdown drill the other day and a kid was laughing hoping the drill would trigger his ptsd why are kids so cruel and the Oxford shooting changed to many lives

This happened to me in 2018. There was a bar shooting in my area that deceased 22 people and in school I was so scared

@hiro0078

Жыл бұрын

Thousand Oaks?

I took a class in highschool that told students about different careers in the hospital. The first day one of the men comes in and starts talking to us and drops from a heart attack. All these people come running in to work on him trying to get him back. Turns out it was a drill they were doing. But what they didn't know was that my dad died of a heart attack 6 months before. So needless to say they all had to calm a very freaked out 17 year old me out. I was not happy about what they did because there was no point to it.

i think realistic drills are necessary but they should definitely communicate with every. like a week or two in advance just send out reminders like "hey we're gonna be having a very realistic drill treat it as if it were real"

@lenax9798

Жыл бұрын

Problem is that it doesnt work. We should teach kids the basics, explain what is expected of them and what to do or how to behave. Then you tell them that theyll have a realistic drill but not tell them when so they are unprepared. Because even if its real, youll see many kids ignoring what is taught to them

@makmcdermott

Жыл бұрын

Kids don't need notification of a "realistic" drill - they are going to need lots of help processes the trauma from the drill. If adults with full formed brains have trouble dealing with the stress of a drill - imagine how it impacts kids and teens who's brains are still forming, can't grasp and understand complex psychological ideas or reach out for help as well as adults.

@greenbeantm1096

Жыл бұрын

Nah as he said “you don’t have to be in danger, your brain just has to think you are” no matter how much warning you get a kid isn’t going to forget hearing a gun shot in their school

@lizgawin899

Жыл бұрын

@@greenbeantm1096 when i was in like 5-6th grade i often read how to do the Heimlich maneuver and while i didn't have drills or really anything except a few lines of text and illustrations as a guide i was at least somewhat able to keep it together well enough to help my grandmother when she started choking. was i scared? yes! did i get some form of preparation for the emergency? yes. did the school have to scare the **** outta me to do it? *NO!* but at the same time they didn't even realize what i was doing.

My daughter just started kinder and we were told they may have an active shooter drill by the end of the year and that scares me to death. I don’t want her to fear going to school or separation from her parents who swore to keep her safe. This is a parents nightmare

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

Жыл бұрын

You should pull her out and put her in online school. I did it for a while, and it was heavenly.

@phantommorph2273

Жыл бұрын

@@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213 that’s impossible with both working parents plus my kiddo is a social butterfly so doing online would only hurt my child more mentally.

@lexbel8394

Жыл бұрын

I’m gen z and I had constant anxiety at school because of the prevalence of shootings themselves, not because of the drills. Not that that makes it any better😢

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

11 ай бұрын

@@phantommorph2273 bad situation then. Can’t pull them out, and can’t exactly stop the drill.

Dude my shorter drills was just to sit in the corner of a room and be quiet, shooting blanks and fake blood is way to far for a drill

@Bonesph

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It's not a drill it's what they do to have a shooting. Crisis actors and drills.

Theres a very big difference between creating awareness and creating fear. Awareness can save your life, fear can traumatize and destroy you

i know a kid irl who was traumatized by these drills as well these things really do have a lasting impact

Not me feeling slightly teary eyed by just watching this. I'm over 21, and I still remember doing a walkout at school after the FL shooting, we all stayed quiet every minute for every soul.... Honestly, the feelings about the situation never go away. Not completely anyway. I still every once in a while take a look at my surroundings and think up scenarios and practice drills in my head

In high school we had more active shooting drills than fire drills. That was almost 20 years ago. We need to do better because the problem didn't go anywhere.

People don’t understand how much school traumas effect people even into adulthood. I still remember being six and being cornered by six graders and having a knife put to my throat. I still remember finding a death threat spray painted on the building. Going to get a teacher because I was the only kid in my class to realize that it was a threat. Then hearing the teachers yelling everyone get inside now. Kids crying and panicking teachers. Remember the sound of the big locks being locked. Teachers telling us that we were going to finish school on the floors that day. Waiting for us to released to our mom because no one not even high schoolers were allowed to leave without a guardian. I remember my mom hurriedly getting my brother and I home as we had to walk four blocks to get home.

When my son was 8 they did something like this. They had them exit the school and run down the church a few doors down. He was terrified. We live really close to the school and he kept saying “I just wanted to run home..” I went to school in the hood we had metal detectors. We need them at EVERY school. Not just some locked office with a camera and a buzzer.

I was in one of these hyper realistic drills before. Im a photojournalist so I was given the opportunity to reenact what I would do in an active situation like that. It’s terrifying beyond anything you can ever imagine.

One time in 8th grade, we were not told about a lockdown drill. All of us hid while our teacher was under her desk. What we didn’t know was the lock was broken on the classroom door, and the front desk staff ended up coming through the door. I remember going to grab the sharpener off the wall while other kids were grabbing their scissors to protect themselves before we realize what was going on. That same year I learned one of my classmates tried to shoot up our 8th grade promotion, but got caught with the gun. In high school, I used to always think that why do we practice these when the kids in the drills could be the ones shooting. Every place I go, I always come up with an emergency plan just in case a shooting does occur. I hate living like this so much.

we had an active shooter drill during a class exchange. no one heard the intercoms over the bell and hallway, all we heard was teachers yelling for us to run and get inside, and other students were being yanked into classrooms. i’ve never heard a high school classroom so silent. when we were told it was a drill i could feel everyone’s heart drop.

We as staff are AlWAYS told when a drill will happen. Usually it is something like, "Within the next week we will have to do our annual drill for either fire, lockdown, lockout." That way of the kids freakout we can calm them down. It is also a subtle reminder to freshen your memory on the procedures for your school, that way when it happens for real you can be calm for the kids. Note we don't have Active Shooter Drills in Australia.

In the 90s and early 2000s we had school lockdowns three times: one was a drill, once because a homeless man wandered on campus looking for food from our vegetable garden, another because the police were searching for a bank robber from down the street. I remember being instructed to lay down in the PE field to be less exposed in case shots were fired. … I want to go back to those days. Everything was done calmly and orderly, we were worried but no one was actually scared and we had already been told what to do and the logic behind why we were doing it. … the Salesian Sisters were great with us kids.

I was in school when we had people with guns and knifes come onto campus more than once. We were lucky that there was no one hurt but the fear was real. One time even my mother was panicking trying to get to us. No one should have to face that, especially a child who's developing a sense of self. To this day I still panic about whats around the corner at times. Worrying that something bad is going to happen, always feeling the need to prepare or fearing to go out. I know the fear is partly irrational but it never leaves. Drills like these, while important need to be EXPLAINED in great detail before and parents NEED to be notified so they can help their child outside of school. You cant expect everyone to react the same, more so a child. What you teach them young will effect their future and in turn effect ours since we depend on the young in our latter years. Just something to think about.

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

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In other words, think it through before you do a drill like this.

why would the school go to the extremes it did just for a drill? this girl seems pretty young, there's no way the school didn't expect a drill like that to not have a lasting effect. (to anyone whose experienced a drill like this or has been in the actual situation before, I'm deeply sorry and I don't mean to offend anyone.)

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213

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Because school people are professionals at being idiots.

I graduated 2 years ago and I’m still scared of school, mass shooting events. My school sucked and never did many serious drills. Even though we had a kid threaten a few times to shoot That being said, this is awful. Unfortunately I’ve leaned I don’t have fight or flight. I have freeze, and cry. So I’d be dead.

I've done lock down drills before in school, but nothing like this ever happened. This is too extreme of a drill. Unnecessary, if it's going to traumatize kids.

Honestly this blows my mind that this actually happens. When I was in school we had drills just like this but they always announced it over the intercom, and then the teachers would talk us through it step by step so we learned what to do without being afraid.

what an amazing actress

It's times like these where I'm really glad I live in Australia (our drills were just hiding under our desks when an alarm went off)...

Wow, just wow. The last minute of this video hits the nail on the head.

Man, I actually cried during this. I mean, I’ve never had to do any full on drills with blood and blank shots, but even just doing the “turn off the lights and stand in the corner” ones make me uneasy. If I had a doctor come into my school and talk to us like he did (like real humans with real, lasting emotion) I would straight up bawl in the bleachers lmao. I had to do a shooting drill last week and I still can’t get it off my mind when I’m in school, imagining what one of *those* drills would do to me is almost unthinkable.

I love this generation as well, they give me hope.

I was in a mall a couple years back when an active shooter alarm was triggered. Nobody knew it was fake (whoever triggered the alarm was arrested if I remember correctly) and watching mothers with young children run for their lives and seeing young teenagers with no chaperones screaming and crying on the phone with their parents telling them "goodbye" just in case was horrific.

This show was brilliant, portrayed the real time America really well. By the way, I was surprised by the actor, Iggy looks so much older than his actual age

What does she mean when she asks him if rhetorically if she should "pretend school shootings don't exist"?! You can have a shooter drill without traumatizing people! The point of a drill isn't to drive home that the world is a dangerous scarry place, and you're never safe, it's to teach you what to do to survive when the worst happens.

I couldn’t imagine this happening. I am in 7th grade and they came over the intercoms recently and said we were having a lockdown drill. I was in the bathroom and even knowing that it was a drill terrified me I already have tons of anxiety and I couldn’t imagine going through a realistic drill let alone the real thing.

ALICE was introduced in my school district when I was in high school and everyone was told when it was going to happen, I believe we learned a lot of valuable information without being scarred over the experiences

I live in Canada, I've never had such drills while in school and I can't imagine what that must feel like not knowing it's a drill... So sorry for the kids who were scared half to death by that experience.

I remember when the stuff about the shooting drills started. I was around 17, mid to late highschool, early College. My schools all pushed the same argument, Run, Hide, Fight. We had the drills, never the super traumatic ones but just your normal school shooting drill you could expect from most underfunded schools. I remember more than once going to the principals, the Dean, ANYONE and trying to get someone to listen to me about how TERRIBLE this advice they were giving students was. At that point I'd been involved in shooting sports and taking firearms self defense/safety courses since I was nine, well over eight years. I wasn't some kid who didn't know what they were talking about I was someone who'd gone through these types of drills, both with a real (prop) gun in my hand, without one, in schools, in the grocery store, at home, etc. And every single time, those who ran died, those who hid died, those who fought died. The people who followed the procedures the schools taught them, were the first victims every time. I remember once I had a group I was in. Well over 20 plus people, teens, adults, grown people with world experience. We were all put in a simulated library, told to read a book, get comfortable, do what we normally would. While everyone was aware this was an active shooter training course it wasn't made clear HOW the situation would be handled, we were under the assumption this was just a break between classes as it wasn't the first test/course we'd encountered that day. When the man with the gun burst in (an AR platform rifle) the people who were the most "vigilant' expecting another test were the first ones shot, they were using marker rounds, some kind of colored soap, it stung but wasn't lethal to any extent. Out of 20 people the minute the door was kicked in 8 were dead, I'd been wandering cause I wasn't super comfortable sitting, the drilling always made me antsy and so I ducked behind a bookshelf as best I could. Others did the usual, run hide fight, runners were mostly shot, a few managed to slip away, the ones who hid were hunted like animals. I circled the guy, grabbed a coat someone had left on a chair, threw it over the gunman's head and started beating him with a book. When the simulation ended 12 people were "dead" 4 had managed to run, myself and two others who'd been hiding were the only others left and that was only because I'd jumped on the gunman. We were told in a real situation, dog pile them, don't run, don't hide, rush as a group. My plan which was slipshod at best was just as likely to work as not and I could've been shot for it in a real situation, the suggestion and the one I forever push, rush the aggressor, even ten eleven year olds is a LOT for anyone to handle no matter what gun you walk in with and as statistics have shown, most school shooters are not trained marksmen, they have rudimentary training if any and those that do "train" always do so against stationary targets, they EXPECT you to run, hide, never to fight, never to work together. People don't expect you to fight back, whether in a school shooting, or just in real life. Prove them wrong and give yourself and others a fighting chance to SURVIVE a shooting. even if we haven't fixed how to stop them totally yet. Also get rid of these damn simulations in schools, kids aren't prepared for this stuff. Even doing those drills when I did I was WAY too young and I can admit that, even if the knowledge was invaluable.

As someone who is in a gun controlled country, it is deeply horrifying and depressing that these drills even have to exist. Why would you want a child to be scared for their life in a place where they’re supposed to be safe?

This episode says and means a lot and a pretty positive message☺ it's uplifting

Soo, I live in America and we have lots of shooting drills right so this makes me cry a lot and I wish it never happened but my teacher classmate’s and one of the shooters died and I’ve cried ever since

In 4th grade we had an active shooter false alarm and left my class alone without a teacher, I can remember thinking I was never going to see my mother again, after they never even made sure we were all ok, they just told us we were fine and to continue on with the school day. I still have ptsd from that.

This is so sad and the fact that this happens in real life

I’m really glad that my school’s teachers always told us when we were about to have a shooting drill. They definitely didn’t want us to be traumatized like these kids.

This reminds me of the Prom Promise assembly my school had where they faked a car crash and had some of our classmates as the victims. Blood everywhere, broken glass, one girl was placed as if she’d flown through the windshield, the driver stumbling around screaming “what did I do?!” It was traumatizing.

I’ve been through two active shooting incidents ( both occurred at two different malls) as an adult and I had to take personal time off. The second shooting I heard the gun shots and people running and screaming. I had 6 adults, 2 staff members and an infant in my storage room for over two hours entire we were found by Swat. I had guns pointed in my face because they didn’t know we were held up in the back. Needless to say, NO child should be put through a shooting drill like this. That’s terrible…

In school, they had drills like this after sandy hook. I live in Canada and hearing about that finally put it in our school faculties head that we needed to prepare for this. I cried the whole day, even when I went to the bathroom. The school counsellour came and got me because they heard me crying and I couldn’t stop. But it wasn’t a drill we were in, it was real life. A real life active shooter called the school and they played it off as a drill.

One of my earliest memories was when I was in kindergarten they had a fire drill and my friend and I started crying and this boy was comforting us

ive watched the entire show and i gotta say, iggy is my favorite character.

I’ll never be the same after an attempted shooting. Luckily, myself and two other students rushed to the office to tell the principle and police stopped the kid from bringing guns to school. I’ll never forget the fear in my chest though. Life gets better, but it never goes away.

well that one made me cry like a little baby. it was a very good clip and I feel like I just talked to my therapist lol.