Stubby Impact Wrench Showdown
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Torque of TTC is working for Astro Tools and even helped develop the 1822v2 impact in this very episode. None of us are compensated for the sales of this model, nor was this episode made with their knowledge. TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!
This is our air stubby impact showdown 2022! Chicago Pneumatic CP7732 and CP7732C vs Ingersoll Rand 36QMAX vs Astro Nano 1822v2 vs Flexzilla & Mac AWP050M.
Lots to test, and lots to uncover, so enjoy! And please see our note about unavoidable bias.
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0:00 What we're testing
0:50 Chicago Pneumatic
2:02 IR 36QMAX
3:16 Nano 1822v2
4:52 Flexzilla
5:52 Mac
7:04 Twilight Zone
9:55 Max Torque
10:49 BCS & Ranking
17:32 Closing
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It makes your job pretty easy when their previous model was already in the top spot, but hey I'll take it. The Mac Tools got the shaft with its spec rating and price on the main list, but it's a stand-out if you ask me. We don't share what videos we're making with ANY brand including Astro, and receive no compensation, incentives or employment based on showing tools or sales figures tied to any one brand, but there's bias that's irremovable when talking about a tool you've yourself worked on. So it's worth mentioning.
@markdatoolman9798
2 жыл бұрын
Test O'Reilly's impact 1/2
@abdelrazaggaith9831
2 жыл бұрын
Nice job broh I just have a request if you got hands on Facom brand could you check the NS1600F compact model I think you would be very surprised
@TorqueTestChannel
2 жыл бұрын
@@abdelrazaggaith9831 6:27, same gun as the Mac. Same parent company Stanley Black & Decker
@krz8888888
2 жыл бұрын
Good job
@unintendedpurposes
2 жыл бұрын
can you do a test on kobalts 24v mid torque?
3:26 Thats me! Neat! Great video as always! Also, thanks to my coworker Ken, who's also a viewer, that offered up his Mac to be sent with my 1822.
Just went and tested my stubby IR and it sure is backwards. I never thought to put it on low for more power.
@TorqueTestChannel
2 жыл бұрын
Who would think of it. It's sort of crazy. Not even in the manual, but they surely know this stuff if a guy with a $20 RPM gauge can figure it out.
@Jerry-zz2eu
2 жыл бұрын
It's like 4wd. When you really need the torque you put it in low, lol.
@Mjhall37
2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannelMy boss pointed this out to me. This selector style works incredibly well for tire work. You want full reverse to get the nuts off, but low forward to not over tighten before torquing to spec. You can leave the power selector alone because it changes with direction. I agree that this feature/flaw should and could be communicated better. Big fan of the channel btw
@GuitarLessonCharts
Жыл бұрын
Have an old IR. I remember tighting a bolt once that I couldn't take off, had to put the thing in forward gear to control the power output to reverse
@ronan9447
Жыл бұрын
I have the 36QMAX and same thing; however, more interestingly, I also have a 2135QXPA and… same thing! In reverse it spins faster and hammers harder on “low” power on the dial. Truly bizarre. Wondering if this is the case with all IRs with this dial design.
I use that onyx nano v2 as a tire tech daily. Takes off lug nuts off like nobody’s business. Amazing gun.
@carlosruano75
2 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy it? I can only find the v1. Astro doesn't sell it directly, so I have to get it from a vendor, but none of them seem to have it.
@BillyTheTeen95
2 жыл бұрын
@@carlosruano75 Amazon has the v2 in 1/2" and 3/8".
@Davidsmithisyourdad
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have a onyx as well and love it. I'm a diesel mechanic and just it daily as well.
@mlez7197
Жыл бұрын
viva la nano!!! thank you!!!
@jaysen2200
Жыл бұрын
My v2 died after a couple days
I've had the CP7732 for about 4 years and I can say it hasn't let me down at all.
I just found your channel and have been binge watching it the last couple of days... Glad to see that my little aircat I've had for a number of years is actually pretty good.
Was thrilled to see the 1822v2 get a workout among its competitors. Since our last correspondence about visual cues to confirm the 1822v2 is the v2, (reason being, the seal on th box had been opened and the label on the tool was still the original non-v2 label) I have truly enjoyed using it as often as I can. I have only needed to use my 1894 twice and that was because it was new. There is something special about a tool living up to and exceeding expectations, it adds a bit of fulfillment during a busy tough day. Thank you again for all you do and for the insightful, practical upgrades made on this impact. Keep up the great work and I’ll keep watching and telling everyone I run across to check it out! Mark.
Awesome video. I've been wondering for a while what you actually have been working on with Astro. Sure there may be a personal bias, but you prove that you don't show it in the numbers, and they don't lie. Besides, I think everyone knows that Astro makes awesome stuff.
Thank you for putting the effort in all the videos man. Really refreshing to get home tired after a long work week, a shower and a good meal while watching tool testing videos. Big fan from the Tampa Bay area. Been following astro tools for a long time and they have definitely became a lowkey quality brand on their tools. For me astro is the winner here, same with the flashlight competition.
I've had, and abused my Mac AWP038M for years now. It is still my go-to gun, but when it gives up the half inch aircat is my next grab... If it still refuses I find a way to get Thor in there... Love you guys. The V2 Nano is on my shopping list now.
Got a deal on a flexzilla stubby a couple years ago. Haven’t had any issues,forward reverse button works fine,and it doesn’t struggle on my f250 lug nuts. Can’t say about longevity but adequate power @ 100psi for around the house. Thanks for your work on this subject, it is entertaining, educational and very useful. Before you guys it was a guessing game. So glad you came along. I have an old Speedaire 1/2 inch. impact, it’s a boat anchor but hits pretty hard . If you need some new props one day ,can we see some like this and other not so knowns.
Thanks to these vids, I bought the Nano gen 1 six months ago and everyone in the shop is blown away by it. One guy bought a Matco 3/8” stubby and they do about the same thing, I just saved 200+ over him.
If anything knowing torque works with Astro makes me more interested in Astro tools, until watching this channel i hadn’t even heard of Astro tools. Keep up the good work!
I’ve had that flexzilla for a long time and I’m glad to see one finally make an appearance. It’s always seemed like it’s got plenty of beans for my purposes.
I think you're doing doing a great job being transparent. I like how cheeky you make your disclaimers
Ive had my old cp for 10 years. Still works like new. Its my favorite impact.
Good morning everyone hope everyone is having a blessed day
@jacob_9426
2 жыл бұрын
Good morning
@travist5254
2 жыл бұрын
good morning
@jude-shreffler
Жыл бұрын
good morning
I got the mac on sale off the truck for only 200$ and its one of the best tools I've ever bought. Perfect for suspension and breaks, plus the speed with that power is good against rust
@TorqueTestChannel
2 жыл бұрын
I love that little Mac gun
@TXpondking
2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel absolutely, I think its the first tool I ever bought off the truck. That little thing has made me so much money off suspension because of its speed
I bought a makita xwt14z about a year ago found it works well for many jobs and it makes life easier when working above your shoulders. With is lighter weight and no hose. That astro V2 is interesting I could see it doing well.
Thank you for testing the CP 7732c I have connected it to 160 psi and it runs like a champ 👍
Hey I was gonna see if you guys were interested in testing a tiny 1 inch impact from kimball midwest. I've got the long anvil version and just wanted to know how much power it actually makes because I've been using a big ir for the better part of a decade and that kimball midwest is like a third the weight and I would rather use that instead.
Appreciate the transparency with the Astro and nonetheless an unbiased presentation of these tools.
This was real helpful - I own the Flexzilla and have always run it at 90 psi. It's been decent enough for me as a home gamer but good to know I can turn up the pressure if I need some more beans. The fwd/reverse switch on mine isn't as tough. If it ever craps out I'll be looking at the Astro.
@TorqueTestChannel
2 жыл бұрын
At higher pressure it's a ripper!
@jonathangarzon2798
Жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel doesn't aircat make a stubby?
I have that old CP, and the matching right-angle impact. They've been solid.
I love my Flexzilla hoses. Air, pressure washer, and garden.
I'm shocked to see the Mac doing good and reading all the love for it. As I never liked mine and had no luck with it. After 6 months of use had to send it away for warranty and then only got about 4 months at most before it started to loss power again on me
I have the flexzilla and over all happy with it. I was able to pick it up on close out sale at mendards for $70, cam with the gun, I full set of high flow fittings and a 50ft hose. It is like you said hard to keep clean.
Very suprised that hopped up onxy gun didnt compleatly break the test rig and hit 3,000 psi 🤣.always happy to see a freshi from you guys in my alerts it makes my day.best channel on the tubes great job.
I don't care if you warn of potential bias or not. That Nano speaks for itself. I think I'll get me one of those.
Love how you guys have gotten much more smooth in your videos as you have progressed.
I wanna start investing in the aircat, CP and Astro Pneumatic line. I have the Mac Tools AWP050M 1/2" and I love it I use it on the daily for rotations, Suspension work just about everything
Thanks my dude! Appreciate the work you guys put in. I am on the M12/M18 platform but maybe I should get some of these air tools! They are pretty small, even smaller than my M12 stubby.
@jrs4516
2 жыл бұрын
put a universal swivel coupler on it and you'll be amazed at the places you can get it into.
AP is still the best for me, daily driver all the way...might have to pick up a couple V2s!
That Onyx gun being noticeably shorter would help a lot. That's the whole reason I'm grabbing a stubby anyways.
On the IR the power dial controls only the forward side of the motor, and does so by bleeding air pressure before the air enters the motor. Possibly what is happening is that the air bleed on the forward side of the motor being bigger allows for more flow on the exhaust side of the motor when it's running in reverse. An odd quirk of of the IR's power dial.
I love my stubby quiet IR. Its light enough to work lugnuts all day no worries and i never have to worry about over torquing lugnuts. That said, i have to grab something with a few more beans when something was over torqued or cross threaded before it came in.
I have an aircat 1057-TH and have been impressed with it for the size. Quite beat up (however well taken care of) willing to part with it for a few weeks if you wanted one to test.
It might make an interesting short video to try and get a warranty replacement for the dying Chicago Pneumatic. I'm curious to see if they claim it wasn't oiled correctly, or if they try any other tricks like making you pay to ship it to them.
Ive got the older cheaper CP gun. I love it. They go on sale for $90 every now and then. Add a swivel and a universal and it will fit basically anywhere. I’m happy to see it makes 350ft/lbs.
@benjamin8981
2 жыл бұрын
have you looked at a CP7727 or CP7737 (same gun but 1/2”) it’s a right angle that fits great in brake caliper and wheel bearing areas. realistically hits to about 120ft-lbs on 120shop air
@wadetate6459
2 жыл бұрын
@@benjamin8981 the Astro 1822 in this video + Astro nano sockets will be the same total length as a 7737. Anything that that won’t do will probably require a 30+ inch breaker bar or “the big gun.”
@benjamin8981
2 жыл бұрын
@@wadetate6459 i’m somewhat brand loyal but i might have to give that a try if it can get me some more space. i’m basing my 120ftlb claim off a 1 second test but if you say it has more power i’ll believe you. i like those low profile nano sockets but they ALWAYS crack around the square drive
I really like the CP classic. Great looking gun.
So glad you tested the Mac tool / facom unit. Was not looking forward to the cost of sending mine across the pond for you to run ! Cheers J
I'd love to see more aircat comparisons, such as the 1375xl
I have the Mac Tool stubby 3/8 and 1/2 impact guns. Neither has been disappointing to use. Really like the compact size. Aircat guns have always impressed me with their ability to break loose nuts and bolts when all other guns could not, working in the shop or in the field.
@realtruenorth
Жыл бұрын
Aircat beat my $400 snap on 1/2" gun!! I couldn't believe it. Broke loose a bolt that my Snap On couldn't.
I had that CP composite gun. Failed within 6 months due to a manufacturer error. But the warranty center wouldn't warranty it saying I dropped it. Into the garbage, will never buy a CP gun again.
I used the flex for years vs and never had an issue guys would use a snap on and couldn’t get some axle nuts off and my flexzilla would do it
I been using the flexzilla impact for 2 years now 1 as a auto tech and 1 as a heavy equipment tech and I love mine for most of my every day and if I need a bigger then I have others
the astro with the muffler removed is a beast like my 3/8 stuby astro is doing 1/2 inch work but stupid loud
As someone who uses the Astro 1822 daily I am on my THIRD one in a year. The other two had a hammer fail and crack in half.
@TorqueTestChannel
Ай бұрын
They put out a new hammer, have you gotten any replacement? I might have a few still, reach out TorqueTestChannel@gmail.com
Personally I'm not concerned about potential bias against Astro branded products. For the price, performance, and size they deliver quite well. It's videos like this that make me not regret having purchased three Nanos and three Thors. Two Thors and one Nano for me, one Nano and one Thor for one friend, and one Nano for another friend. Because the 2760-20 doesn't always fit. Especially with a 12 amp battery, and then consider the prices... Thank you TTC 🍻
As I talked with TTC about the Chicago CP7732C, the tool is good but has flaws. After 3 years of relatively big abuse it started to have some issues, somethimes being stuck between 2 vannes and air just not spinning the motor (it was happening very too often to my liking) and sounding off time to time, then 2 months after it seized the selector. I had to take it appart to clean it and since then, it down like 30% power it struggles to take lug nuts off. Good tool for light duty or house, not good enough to make a living off. Im happy TTC made this video I will choose my next one
Its interesting and worth noting given your previous testing, i own both 3/8 and 1/2 mac guns and the half absolutely demolishes the 3/8 for torque.
The power regulator on the IR is not meant to work in reverse. The only reason it slightly improves performance in reverse when put in low is that it increases what is called secondary exhaust, which is what allows the non-operating side of the motor to exhaust so that it's not recompressing air.
Have you ran a test on the new earth quake xt stubby? It claims 700 ftlbs break away tourqe. I need a small impact for work.What would be the highest torque and break away tourqe stubby inpact. Smaller the better in 4inch range or less.Thanks
My godfather worked for Stanley/Dewalt/Black and Decker for a while and I ended up getting alot of display Proto air tools free. No one believes me that they are beasts. And the only real downfall on the stubby was the price. Well mine was free so it's no.1 for sure. Mine is a 3/8 but it's the same gun.
Very glad I got that XWT14. Thing is a beast. Haven't found anything it won't remove.
Please do a 2024 edition. Aircat has a new 1057 compact and a few other players out there do too!
I remember my Matco tool dealer telling me that Matco impacts were the only brand that had adjustable rpm in forward and reverse when I asked him about Ingersoll
i have that Mac gun. it's awesome. use it for 99% of all my daily work. it's plenty powerful for most jobs.
I bought the 1822v2 a few weeks Avon after watching last year’s stubby shootout and I’m glade I went that route it was really tight out of the box I gave it on drop of air tool oil before it’s first use but the motor was stalled out gave it a more generous drink of oil and haven’t had a problem since only time will tell for its life span with daily use and daily oiling I hope to get a year out of it
The MAC can be bought from Facom for sometimes as low as 150 euro. Model is NF.1600
I like how the sub compact 1/2" guns are always rated 2-3 times their realistic output. smh Thanks for the video though!
Thanks for including the astro.
Not sure TTC is still checking comments here. I have a Chicago stubby. I recently discovered that it has a similar shake to the Dewalt’s under heavy impact after a second or two. If you look closely, the anvil has “run-out” or “walk” if you will. This could be due to wear, but unsure. Perhaps anvil travel is a contributor to the wrist-breaking score? Maybe more visible under high speed camera.
Test O'Reilly's impact 1/2
This should be very interesting.
I have the flexzilla mini impact wrench and it works well with good power. I bought it on closeout for $40 and I also bought the flexzilla mini air ratchet for $45. They had a tekton hose reel for $55 so I bought a couple of those too. I couldn't pass up them up at those prices.
Can you test the Astro 1833 and/or 1834? That's the 3/8" and 1/2" flex-head impact "ratchets."
Astro will be supplying my next air tool. When I need one that is.
My ir stubby did that to haha it was super cheap tho so I wasn’t suprised
I will be really sad when my mac finally dies. That thing takes of caliper bolts that I can't get to with bigger impacts.
I love your ranking by power, but I would like to see a subjective ramkinf by durability, if you own it start dropping them off ladders project farm style. I would watch a 1 hour episode of you dropping tools to show us how durable they are!!!
excellent testing and review, as always
I am going to try putting my IR in low and see how it does! Like you said, never even thought about it, just set the gun and go! How...intuitive...or not? 😂
You should test the Carlisle brand
i bought the older cp and it had a significant decrease in power after a couple weeks of use. i sent it back and got the aircat 1056-xl, much better impact for a similar price.
I luv these guns they are hand a wrist savers Astro man for life i even own the baby Astro sander polisher you wouldn't believe the torque
no matco mini impact?
Super cool that you guys do this puts myth and claims from old mechanics on the chopping block
I got the Astro abt 2 years ago I run it on 135psi it gets it done👍👍
we have one in the uk for £70 called Clarke CAT179 and it can basically do any job i throw at it. fantastic bit of kit for the money
Looks like I’m retiring my flexzilla lol. And purchasing a Mac. I wrote this before the line pressure bump. I guess makes sense I feed mine 150 psi all the time so actually for the price the flexzilla definitely isn’t too bad
I have the 3/8 Impact Stubby Matco Tools MT2748. And its a beast.
Good video. You should put a note concerning the IR setting issues.
A coworker found a flexzilla in the road on the way to work and gave it to me because he knew I have a big compressor. It’s not bad for the price I paid 👍🏼
So from what i can see.... AP makes the best option for stubby, high torque 1/2(thor) and the big nasty( .498 air hammer)
Snap on make a compact now, still like $500 but would be interesting to see how all the major tool trucks stack up against each other.
I want to see matco stubby air impact vs all
I guess I need to check my ir at work and see what model our flexvilla is. The one we have screams and has way more power than the ir.
I wish you rpm tested all guns as its kind of a feature not necessarily relevant to raw power but speed definitely changes the personality of the guns.
I love my Paoli DP 1050 MAX TORQUE 520 ft-lb
Love my nano, results don’t surprise me.
interesting to see the test jonnesway
I love this channel I really do but I have to say on the Flexzilla gun I have owned many of these exact models they are awesome guns but if you're not using their high-flow fittings you're basically handicapped in the gun before you've even hooked air to it if you would use the actual Flexzilla hi-flow fittings or some equivalent it really wakes this gun up. I serviced heavy equipment and Road tractors and I personally have broken many lug nuts loose that were torque to 450 to 500 foot pounds of torque so I would just like to see this gun with its actual high flow fitting just to see how it does
@TorqueTestChannel
2 жыл бұрын
We use Milton V which us interchangeable with Flexzilla high flow
@crazycanaboy95
2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel comment rescinded well I kind of feel like the original ones which were the ones I had or better and then they lessen the quality down to the price point even when I bought mine I kind of felt like they were under priced and overbuilt I personally haven't used one in a few years I know the original ones were a beast
I really needed this video today lol
No shame in being good. That's gonna be my next impact
you should reviwe the mini devil from KS tools they say it has over 1000 nm and its a greman compony
ive got that mac and its good.
Would love to see the ks tools minimonster added to this chart!
Hey there, I'm kinda new here, how about some info on max cfm flow connections n hose. Your testing skills are well respected. Thanks
I really hope this v2 is sturdy. Bought the Thor and one of the cap screws sheered off after only a handful of uses.
@TorqueTestChannel
2 жыл бұрын
The cap screw torx sections were broached too deep not leaving enough meat. Custom bolts n all. They have new ones they send out