How much restraint did they have to not name it Fighter: The Streetening

@vectorshingetsu5560

Жыл бұрын

Street: The Fightering

“Animal hybrids, cyborgs and elementals, just like in Street Fighter” you say that like those don’t make sense in a world with mutants, demons, clones, and a dictator with physic powers.

@rollinlikebuer9059

2 ай бұрын

Ingrid might be some sort of sun elemental. When they introduced Twelve as a playable character in SFIII the franchise was irrevocably launched into science fiction, continuing the theme with Seth in IV. If anything, the RPG was just ahead of the curve.

@timothymclean

Ай бұрын

Animal hybrids and psychic dictators are completely different genres. I mean, they don't _have_ to be, TMNT had Kraang, but they're not automatically associated.

@thelastchannelonyoutube

23 күн бұрын

@@timothymclean Late reply, but I think you're missing the fact that said psychic dictator has an entire army of genetic experiments and clones.This is the exact style of science fiction that animal human hybrids were created for. If anything, I'm surprised they didn't go that dictation yet.

Fun fact: The relationship between Capcom & White Wolf also resulted in Capcom USA attempting to make a beat-em-up based off of Werewolf for the Sega Saturn. It didn't get very far in development, but a prototype did leak at some point

@RipOffProductionsLLC

3 ай бұрын

Just Werewolf? You'd think a fighting game would want to draw on the whole World of Darkness for as many characters as possible... Sure, maybe the story mode might focus on the Werewolf side as the "hero" side, but the Vampire clans have so many distinct powers that could make for interesting fighting game character designs and movesets, you'd have to be crazy not to want to include at least a few.

@AztecCroc

2 ай бұрын

@@RipOffProductionsLLC The Saturn was 1994, and the prototype was scrapped in 1995-ish, only Vampire, Werewolf, and early versions of Mage and Wraith (which I've never heard of before) even existed at the time.

@RipOffProductionsLLC

2 ай бұрын

@AztecCroc and? Vampires and Mages would be plenty if variety to bolster a fighting game roster. Especially visually, as meaningful as the differences between werewolf packs/tribes might be lore and gameplay-wise, they're still all just big hairy beasts at a glance.

@AztecCroc

2 ай бұрын

@@RipOffProductionsLLC Beat-em-up, not fighting game. Think Streets of Rage, not Street Fighter.

Back in the 90s I was a white wolf game demonstrater. I would demo WW products at game stores and cons and get free product in return. All the demonstrators were in an email list and at this time I had learned of the then recently out of print SF TTRPG and asked if anyone knew where I could get a copy on the demo team mail list and another demonstrater in New Zealand (I lived in Canada) sent me the core book and an adventure module (The Perfect Warrior) for free. I ended up playing Street Fighter with my gaming group a lot, and one member of my old group still lists it as his favorite TTRPG. I'll always be grateful to that guy who sent me those books.

Since 1999, when it was published in Brazil, still my favorite tabletop RPG. Its battle system is amazing!

@zigmenthotep

Жыл бұрын

Was that an official release? Information on any non-US releases tends to be a little sparse.

@EricMSouza

2 ай бұрын

@@zigmenthotep It was official, but in a confusing way. The publisher obtained the rights to Capcom's games and published a comic book and an SFZ3 RPG on their own system (3D&T), including setting Final Fight in a supplement. Later, the licensor offered them SF:StG. They accepted and published it, selling the entire print run within a few months. But this resulted in a legal problem, as another publisher had exclusive rights to White Wolf games in Brazil. They settled in court, but this made it impossible to publish the SF: StG supplements in Brazil. This publisher brought in its magazine the sheets and styles of Sagat, Vega and M. Bison, also the sheet and style of Rose in an adventure.

I read an interview with Steve Wietch where he talks about playing Street Fighter 2 while taking breaks from working on Werewolf and deciding to reach out for the license. It's too bad this was the only license they got because they showed some genuine ingenuity here.

@johneppley9615

3 ай бұрын

Another interview excerpt: for the setting material they reached out to Capcom and basically got a blank check from them to include whatever they thought of as long as no existing characters could die.

Fighter: the streeting is not something I expected to exist, and non-fanmade at that

I really like the look of this game, the combat does a shockingly good job of adapting fighting games, and I think the storyteller system would be really good for the melodrama of a Mortal Kombat style story. With the expansions for more character options, I think this could be really fun.

The first edition of the Wizardry TTRPG was released in 1988, based on the Wizardry series of CRPGs, but only in Japanese I think. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if it turned out this was originally proposed as a tie-in to the first Darkstalkers game, which came out the same year. That would explain the "weird guys" rules with animal hybrids and elementals and stuff, the darker gorier tone compared to SF and why White Wolf of all people were making it and it would be a way to logically have the line cross over with other White Wolf splats. And then Capcom pulled a Capcom and made 'em milk Street Fighter instead. Not to mention the third Darkstalkers game was even marketed as a World of Darkness game when it first hit the arcades in English for some reason, with the White Wolf logo on the flyers and everything.

What if they had the Darkstalkers license, I wonder...

@TimmyDisorder

13 күн бұрын

White Wolf released a blister book titled World of Darkness: Combat, which took the fighting system of the SF:STG and adapted it for the WoD, which was their Vampire/Werewolf/etc. line. So, in effect, you could do Darkstalkers.

It’s not quite a ttrpg in the traditional sense but Metroid did have a game book with ttrpg elements that released in 1986 called Metroid: Zebes Invasion Order. In MZO you play as Samus going through the events of the first Metroid game for the first two thirds and then you switch to a choose your own adventure book for the last, it’s a strange experience. The gameplay portion is actually really fun since it’s designed with backtracking in mind so you can go back to previous areas to heal and look for items without going against the spirit of the game.

I’m shocked white wolf didn’t try to do a Mortal Kombat TTRPG. Tone-wise Mortal Kombat would fit with Vampire the Masquerade better.

I love this era when most game publishers weren't concerned with brand cohesion. American companies did wild things when expanding these Japanese properties!

The active international fan community has officially discovered this video... :)

There was at least one published adventure for Street Fighter, Perfect Warrior. You do the street fights, investigate a mystery by fighting people and smack down and evil Shadaloo plot.

I assume the limited boring move starting points, was that you would work up to those with experience, and the from game characters were not assumed to be "level 1" when statted.

It is easily the least well-regarded Street Fighter comic series-- _for reasons_ -- but Street Fighter 100% was an edgy grimdark 90s comic book... I think, coincidentally, at right about the same time as the game was in print.

There is a fan made 20th aniversary of the book

There's actually a pretty fun TTRPG based off fighting games simply called Fight!. It's on its second edition, it's very thorough in letting you make just about any kind of fighting game character you can imagine.

I'm like 90% sure that the weird shit from the players book is there for Darkstalkers purposes.

11:47 the same for the superhero rpg, you were able to make less powerful clones of existing superheroes.

We actually had a lot of fun with this game back in the 90’s!

To answer the question at 11:39. Apparently yes, in the US release of street fighter 2 Blanka and Dhalsim were given those styles, that has later since been fixed as it didn't fit either. And while Kabaddi's still gone unused, in street fighter 3 we did get an actual capueirista

@ironwolf56

Ай бұрын

I was gonna say I played a ton of this SF2 arcade cabinet in my town as a kid and main'd Blanka and distinctly remember it lists his style as Capoeira because I'd never heard of it before then.

@TimmyDisorder

13 күн бұрын

Street Fighter 2 Turbo Championship added Dee Jay, who was the first official Capoeira guy. But really, nobody likes Dee Jay.

A good buddy who owned the FLGS was a fan of this, which was surprising considering his dislike of all things WW. I always meant to track down a copy and see why he dug it so much.

@EricMSouza

Жыл бұрын

There's a 20th Anniversary Edition made by fans. sfrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/Street-Fighter-TSG-20th-Anniversary.pdf

White Wolf was famous in the 90s for deliberately limiting the options in the core book so you would have to buy more of their blister books to keep up with the power creep. It was like TCG rules with their RPGs.

My favorite trivia about this game is it had them make a sourcebook for WoD called WoD: Combat; one of the most gonzo WoD supplements ever.

Yes! I love this game. I get flack by WoD fans for liking this game and hate when I jokingly call it "The Greatest Storyteller Game EVER!" LOL You really hit all the right nails on the head with this review! Great job!! I pick this game up back in the day. My objective was to ignore the Street Fighter II elements and run it as a kung-fu/blaxploitation setting of my own making. I had scenarios related to crime-fighting or vengeance, while the action was based on beat 'em up games like Double Dragon and Streets of Rage, so I had to adjust the rules a little for group-fighting. There where no world-wide tournaments, no elite OP fighters, nor an omnipresent criminal organization. Everything was local and fairly down-to-earth.

As a fighting game player, I think this video/review was excellent. Thanks.

This is the game that got me interested in tabletop rpgs. I found it when it was new and purchased it a decade later after it was out of print. I've never played it. But I would love to.

You are very underrated, love your work

Must be hard to do a campaign with this game

19:22 it does replicate a fighting game pretty well

11:24-11:40: Well, Blanka is from Brazil, and as we know, all Brazilians know capoeira. On a more serious note, if you've seen Moon Channel's video on Japanese games and Brazil, saying that Blanka's fighting style is capoeira is an interesting mashup of different eras of Brazilian stereotypes.

"M. Balrogson" I get the reference. ;)

Those rules... Gonna note them and steal from these if I ever make a Baki the Grapler one shot

Great now I want a copy of this and do a combined crossover campaign of Hunter Street Fighters vs everyone

Good video but saw a mistake as you can only start with 3 techniques but can buy more with freebie points.

7:45 is a foot sweep not an illegal move in sumo?

@SusCalvin

2 ай бұрын

Honour represents how well a character follows the rules of street fighting. Bringing a gun to a street fight lowers your honour.

Animal hybrids and elementals were a thing in Street Fighter 2 (Dictator with psycho power, Blanka with both), and cybernetics are a thing currently, so honestly not really repulsed by it.

You could call him Flesh Leg Pete

I don’t think some people would mind if they used the improved combat for the darkness stuff as well 27:35 I guess they did

@Jimalcoatl

Ай бұрын

The WoD: Combat book was based on Street Fighter, but it was far more janky and even less balanced. It was neat in concept, but they really failed to stick the landing.

D&D 3E had a Diablo module

Wouldn’t Zangief still be blocking in your first round of tutorial combat? Pretty sure the block lasts the whole round, which brings Cannon Drill down to the minimum of one die.

@zigmenthotep

13 күн бұрын

Good question. Well, it is specified that using block against a hurricane kick applies to all attacks, as if that's not a normal thing. But also that if you use block in two consecutive rounds you are considered to be blocking between the two blocks. So... probably?

32:14 is that Adrienne Barbeau?

18:00 combat example

Cunning plan to release this video around when SF6 came out. I approve. Also, SoulCalibur is great but 4 was an abomination.

@seb24789

10 ай бұрын

You say that but 5 exists.

@Ishpeck

10 ай бұрын

@@seb24789 Does it, tho'?

@seb24789

10 ай бұрын

@@Ishpeck No. It was all just a bad dream.

9:29 shouldn’t a cyborg be less healthy?

@TimmyDisorder

13 күн бұрын

More hit points because metal.

Are you reading this intro from a script and is it on your left? That's the only reason I can think that you keep looking that way. 😄

American artists used to go out of their way to draw things badly 🤣

You didn't mention Erik the Red So Fine, 0 out of 0 stars (just joking)

I heard this was actually compatible with Vampire somehow

@Jimalcoatl

Ай бұрын

You would have to do a bit of tinkering to make them work together, but it would be doable if you wanted to. It could make a fun game of Ryu the Vampire Hunter or some such.

@TimmyDisorder

13 күн бұрын

World of Darkness: Combat.

@Jimalcoatl

13 күн бұрын

@@TimmyDisorder WoD Combat is based on Street Fighter, but they are actually quite different. It would probably be smoothest to use the freeform maneuvers optionsl rules in Street Fighter to insert Street Fighters into WoD.

Glory is how many wins you got. Your ranking in international street fighter leagues. Honour is how much you abide by the honour rules of street fighting. Not even Bison shows up with a handgun to a street fight. There was a bunch of books that added more styles and stuff. It sounds like you start out as fairly low-level street fighters. You are not Blanca or Chun Li level.

It's not really based on the fighting game. It's a Tabletop Role-Playing Game based on a terrible movie that's based on a fighting game.

@MezTZO

Ай бұрын

Incorrect. There is absolutely nothing in the Street Fighter rpg books that refers to the story of the Street Fighter movie, and none of the character bios are based on their movie counterparts either.