In my opinion hidden headlights would make a lot of sense now when headlights are made of plastic that degrade and become opaque from UV exposure

@allanrose3661

22 күн бұрын

Hadn't thought of that and since they are all made of UV vunerable plastic now it would be a nice feature.

@liveness2006

21 күн бұрын

Good idea but it also doesn't help that HIDs off put uv. Not sure about the LEDs

@haroldvanprooyen5340

21 күн бұрын

yes i agrere

@georgeburns7251

19 күн бұрын

Who keeps a car that long? Most cars won’t last long enough for the plastic to deteriorate.

@macmclemore

17 күн бұрын

Not gonna happen… No way to do federally mandated “Daytime Running Lights”…

I am a 70s child so these videos bring back a lot of fond memories for me. I am sure that many of your GenX viewers/subscribers feel the same way. Thank you Adam for putting in all the time and effort to share your passion with us!

@WhittyPics

23 күн бұрын

Me too

@opietwoep1247

23 күн бұрын

He has all my dream cars. I just turned 60

@mybestfriendisamonkey173

23 күн бұрын

I'm right there with you brother

@samholdsworth420

23 күн бұрын

Sup Boomers lol

@cardo1111

22 күн бұрын

Indeed.

The 65 Riviera's clam shell hidden headlights were fun to watch open and close at a car show a few weeks ago

@scottsmith1525

23 күн бұрын

Agreed, those were fascinating, a friend of mine's dad had a '65 Riv.

@axlefoley3369

23 күн бұрын

Owned a 65 GS Riviera, the linkage had a bolt that when loosen allowed the lite 'doors' to open if motor failed.

@BLenz-114

23 күн бұрын

I remember a friend of mine years ago had a cougar with headlight hiders that slid sideways to open. I find that more odd than the flip type.

@Rom3_29

23 күн бұрын

@@BLenz-114- 1st gen Camaro had similar slide option, maybe year or two.

@SophiaAphrodite

23 күн бұрын

I felt like Roadhouse brought attention to this as he bought them so no one could break the headlights.

My first car was a used '69, dark green with white interior. I recall during Nebraska winters I would casually drive up icy, snow-packed hills, with stuck cars and trucks all over the place. People would look with amazement at how it could go through snow with that 455 sitting over the drive wheels.

@krazmokramer

23 күн бұрын

"snow packed hills"? Leavenworth around 50th-60th(???) in Omaha? I took that plunge ONCE when it was ice covered in my 63 Corvette Roadster (my everyday driver in the late 70s).

@ChrisPBacon-vk7sj

23 күн бұрын

YES! I plowed snow with my '75 Toronado in '78 with the 455, and L size tires!

@glennredwine289

20 күн бұрын

The '66 Tornado was a nice, cool, sleek looking car if a bit big & heavy...

@josebrown5961

13 күн бұрын

And I remember seeing some people with their snow tires on the back! They thought the car was RWD.

Manually operated flip-over retractable headlights on Opel GT (loved that car!)

@chuckymurlo5654

23 күн бұрын

@@sdstreiker Handle operated! No vacuum leaks to worry about

@judih.8754

23 күн бұрын

​@@chuckymurlo5654 Saab Sonnet had a handle below the dash that you pulled to raise the headlamps. No motors either.

@surlyogre1476

22 күн бұрын

@@judih.8754 You beat me to it. Very clever (and reliable) system.

@JustSayN2O

22 күн бұрын

Yes I was going to write this but first looked through comments to see if anybody beat me to it. I would gladly buy an Opel Gt but every one I see for sale is in horrible condition. Many have wonderful new paint but the interiors are ratty, the frame metalwork is corroded, etc.

@RUfromthe40s

14 күн бұрын

i have one in orange and the back panel is black originally the system to rotate the lights is like when opening the hood in BMW´s 2002 from the 70´s . i used to love the interior design ,allthough the steering wheel could be a litle smaller

Several comments. I actually prefer the styling of the '68-69 Toronado's to the original 1966. The '69 Headlamps grille covers would always dependably open during the snowy great lakes winters typical of that era. Finally, with the disc brakes and the 455 the '69 Toronado was a superb highway cruiser. In '72, I had the opportunity to do a wintertime drive of my father's '69 Toronado from Traverse City, to Detroit/Windsor, then across a snowy Canada, to Montreal, for a skiing trip with our destination in Stowe, Vermont. The '69 also handled the snowy roads of Vermont's route 100 amazingly well. That '69 made wintertime travel speedy, safe, and effortless....and that drive and that subsequent ski trip were both amazing lifetime memories for me. Definitely the '69 Toronado was one of my truly great car experiences. BTW the manually operated rotating covered headlights of my later purchased, and much loved, 1970 1.9 liter OPEL GT always opened no matter the weather, encrusting ice storms never prevented the Opel GT headlights from opening. Adam, you have a great channel. Cheers.

I had a 1967 Thunderbird. This is the best arrangement, solidly mounted headlights that stay properly aimed, protected by metal covers when not in use.

@marko7843

21 күн бұрын

Plastic...

@lanedexter6303

21 күн бұрын

@@marko7843 My 1967 Thunderbird had metal headlight covers,, but anything that protects the lights from damage is good.

'68 and '69 are still lookers, but the '66 was the best, IMO.

65 Buick Riviera hidden light were the sweetest

That orange Ferd at 5:15 is me when I woke up this morning. Too much partying.

@zachlafleur6651

23 күн бұрын

Thinkin that you want a Lincoln? After seeing that one, think again, that is one more thing to be concerned about when it fails.

@GCMmailuseonly

23 күн бұрын

Lmao i agree dude

My wifes 89 Accord had pop up headlights. While that is not as cool looking as the 60s and 70s cars with hidden headlights it still gave the car a more aerodynamic look. Wish I still had that car as it was super reliable. The tin worm ate it up.

That’s kool! I never saw the entire grill retract like that. 😎👍

I like the way the grill rotates out of the way and that (as you mentioned) they did make the headlight area look presentable.

I actually prefer this design. Thanks for sharing

@stephendeluca4479

23 күн бұрын

The '68 is a stunner in my opinion.

I think the '68 Toronado was the best looking Toronado ever. I never cared for the sharp front end on the earlier models and on the '69 the slopes of the rear window and trunk lid differed more than they did on the '68 making for a more creased look. The honeycomb grille also looked better. The concept of rotating the grille out of the way rather than popping up or rotating the headlights themselves is a much better engineering solution. Moving power cables is never a good idea and with a moving headlight, there is a good chance of misaligned beams over time.

Those 3 cars are gorgeous

My dad had a 66 Riviera he bought new and I was lucky to drive later in the mid 70's. I can still hear the distinctive sound of those headlights in my head. They never had a single issue in the 20 years we had that car. I kind of think the 70 Toronado with the non-hidden headlights was pretty nice too.

I know Adam likes the original Toronado front end best, and I realize these models were probably trimmed down by cost cutters. But, I really like this design. The headlights are cool, and that overheat feature is cool also! I wonder how many technicians were tricked into thinking there was a headlight issue when the high temps were actually to blame. But, on the other hand, most owner probably didn't realize the light covers were up in super hot situations...

@MarinCipollina

23 күн бұрын

No technicians were confused unless they were idiots. Dealer techs are trained on relevant aspects of the cars.

@stephendeluca4479

23 күн бұрын

@@MarinCipollina You have more faith in people than I do. There are many "well-trained" professionals who don't know their you-know-what from their elbow about their field. I truly hope you and your loved ones always have doctors and nurses who DO know their you-know-whats from their elbows.

The Opel GT was another unusual, but effective design for hidden headlights. Manually operation via “pistol grip” lever made these a somewhat unique process, with both headlights flipping L to R in unison. Not dependent on electricity or hydraulic action, these were fairly dependable until the gears attached to the headlight bezel wore out.

@jamesplotkin4674

23 күн бұрын

Those are cable and lever operated. No gears, but a multi-layered set of metal discs which allowed some deflection in the assembly. You do have to keep the three 8mm bolts tight and keep an eye on the condition of the flexible wires in the middle of the pivot. Over the years, the wire insulation hardens and cracks. I owned three and am familiar with them.

@rolandsolomon7728

20 күн бұрын

The 1930's Cords were also beautiful and had hidden headlamps. Albeit they were manually hand cranked and there was one crank for each headlight. The crank for the right headlight was on the right lower side of the dashboard. In other words, it was very convenient to have a passenger sitting on the right side of the vehicle asking them politely to crank up the right headlamp. 😂 Also, they were front-wheel drive, long before the Toronado.

@mexicanspec

12 күн бұрын

It was dependent on muscle power and hope that nothing was in the way of the rotating pods.

Major thing overlooked about the hidden headlights was that the round (later square) sealed beams were federally mandated. So to get a really unique look, you had to cover them. Today, yeah all about $.

Love hidden headlights, so cool

My family owned 3 Toronados over 5 years - a Lt. Blue 1969, Bamboo 1971, and a Brown w/ White 1972. Great cars!

Mopar had moving grilles to reveal headlights. 68-69 Charger, I think

@Coelacanth97

14 күн бұрын

1970 Charger as well. Only partial grilles would move though, only the sections covering the headlights. The '70 was the only year with the much-improved electric motor actuating the pop-up headlights, replacing the problematic vacuum-actuated function of earlier years.

Hidden headlights went away long before headlight design made the very expensive modern advancements with HID and LED and whatever else. Modern headlight assemblies are much more expensive than hidden ones ever were. There is a lot more design flexibility now, and some look really cool. Most are just themeless blobs though.

My cousin had a 68. She had it for 15 yrs. The hidden headlights never failed. It was a black on black on black and it was one pretty car. It was also a sleeper. Her husband would pull up to redlights next to a mustang or charger and smoke check in em!

Love it when you feature cars from this era. Thanks!

Loved the look of the 1968 and 1969 Toronado. They are my favorite. I can't imagine the cost associated with model year changes back then.

These cars are just so Beautiful. I remember them well while growing up in the 1960's. At the time these cars came out I was 11-14 years old. Riding in the Toronado is something I can never forget.

although this vid is about hidden headlights, I have to say that ordering a Toro with buckets and console, while cool in every other period car, was a mistake as it covered up the best feature, that flat floor. Best option was the Strato-bench and column shift, so that the flat floor really made itself known and your SO could snuggle up

@mexicanspec

12 күн бұрын

You are right. A Toronado, or Eldorado, with the flat floor and bench seats can sleep 4 comfortably.

The 1968 and 1969 Oldsmobile Toronado's were nice-looking cars (NO vinyl tops please!!!) even though the heavy-looking loop bumpers took away from the design. Loved that beautiful, veneered center console and ball shifter. That console should have been standard equipment in keeping with the Toronado's sporting personality over a Riviera or Eldorado which were more personal luxury than sporting. Those flip-up grilles had the potential to be detrimental to your air conditioning condenser, transmission cooler, and possibly the radiator, when they were flipped up in the night driving mode by leaving those components vulnerable to flying road rocks and debris. Bad design in my eyes. I even thought so at 7 years old. I was a child of both the 1960's and 1970's (born 1961), so I remembered these 1966 through 1970 Toronado's well. My two uncles sold Oldsmobiles up though 1972, when they switched the dealership to Lincoln-Mercury's in1973. (W.O. Bankston Oldsmobile - Dallas)

The Torrys design was ahead of its time. Back when GM had some awesome looking vehicles.

This is so iconic, 60s tech, James Bond-ish, with the kind of style long-gone from today's charisma-free wheels.

That’s actually beautiful. The only other car I can think of with well finished hidden headlights when activated was the 81 Imperial with the chrome bezel and rectangular lights while the Mark VI still had ROUND headlights. Someone else mentioned the 65 Riviera clamshell headlights those are beautiful also. Awesome video!

When I was a kid in the late 60s sometime I don't recall the exact year my family rode from Oklahoma City to Chicago in a late 60's Toronado around Christmas time. I remember going through some pretty bad snow storms in Missouri and Illinois and the the front wheel drive Toronado had no trouble just plowing through the snow. It wasn't our car but a friend of my father's car who was making the trip and he decided to hitch a ride with him since we had family in Chicago. I don't recall those 68-69 Toronados but I remember the 66-67s well. I think it was one of those we made the trip in.

Probably the slickest looking Toronados for the entire run of the nameplate. I think the weirdest and ugliest hidden headlights belong to the 80-83 Lincoln Mark VI. Especially when they had those optional touring lights on the headlight covers. Yuk 😝

Consoles seem to waste the flat floors.

When GM was at the top of their game in innovation, and building these 3 different absolutely gorgeous cars!! My 6th grade teacher had a new 1969 Toronado, sky blue, and he knew that I liked cars, and would loan me his keys, to retrieve stuff out of it for our class. I really appreciated that he encouraged my appreciation for his beautiful car!

Stranger hidden-headlights: How about an early 70's Opel GT? The headlights rotated on a spindle parallel to the centerline of the car.

These are my favourite. Love a '68 Toronado!

I don't know if hidden headlights are legal now. I know they aren't allowed to move. Not sure about covering them. But with modern vehicle design being so hideous. I don't think hidden headlights would help regardless 😂

@martin-vv9lf

20 күн бұрын

the old round glass sealed beam lights were cheaper for everyone and reliable too. they went away because they couldn't be styled in the body. the hidden headlamps are a great way of dealing with that, but they take a lot of room and the actuators tend to give trouble.

On that 68 when the grills move out of the way it looks like a 67 -69 Firebird.

They are cool. I never realized the configuration of these. They almost take on the look of the Firebird when the grills open. Truthfully I do not know that I ever remember seeing a ’68 in person.

@Michael-iw4ru

23 күн бұрын

just my exact thought - it's Firebird!

This car is beautiful whether the headlights are on or not. I can't say the same of most of the 1980s cars with hidden headlights

I actually think that the 1967-1969 Camaro Rally Sport had about the strangest hidden headlights that I remember. You talk about ice on cars here in the northern states and specifically the hidden headlights. Today we have a new problem. The LED lights don’t build up heat therefore they won’t melt ice and road slush off of them. I was watching a KZread review of a vehicle and it mentioned headlight heaters. Another option dealing with headlights was the useless headlight washers on the 1969 Chevrolet’s. My friend had a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Rally Sport equipped with the washers. I remember Chrysler products in the early 70’s had headlight washers with a brush that would go across the light to scrub it.

my dad had a 1969 ford country squire..had the hidden head lights the grill over the headlights retracted ..i was four when he got it..and i thought that was just the coolest thing!

Agree with your take on this. The moving grill I’d never seen!

Wow! The length of that upper radiator hose looks like at least 3' long! My parents drove a 1972 Fury III wagon with every option available. 100mph easily which my mother did a couple of times when my brother was in trouble with women! The Fury had hidden head lamps with doors that opened. When closed the front of their wagon had a black grill with horizontal pattern if I remember correctly. It was the 1st car I drove with my learners permit! At 4'10" & 110# I did not fit well behind the wheel despite the cars tilting wheel. I preferred my bicycle! Later my father found an old Ford Falcon for me to drive but still had to have a boat cushion to see over the steering wheel. These cars you show have absolutely gorgeous exterior paint finishes!! I prefer my 1980`s S10`s as they fit my small stature perfectly with no cushions!

My favorite is the '67. Gorgeous cars.

Of the various vehicles I’ve owned over the past 4+decades, I never did acquire a Tornado, of any year… really did want one (and yes, always liked the front end styling of 65’s & 6’s as well) but after seeing this ‘69, I’d be very content with this or the ‘68’s!! Of the years riding & driving &, eventually owning, my grandparents’ ‘75 GMC Palm Beach Motorhome w/Tornado front wheel drive w/Olds 455, @ an average weight of about 12.5K Lbs, i can definitely attest to how well those road/handled.. ample supply of HP & Torque!! Drove & loved that Motorhome all over the U.S. of A.’s western half! Fond memories, many. Can only imagine how that powertrain would feel in a car! Owned a ‘69 OPEL GT 1900; now THOSE headlights were ‘interesting’! Fun to flip out/in

Olds has always been the best car GM built. In my humble opinion. my first car was a 1952 olds holiday sport coupe with clock in steering wheal.

Strangest design in my opinion was the 89 Pontiac Sunbird.....that thing had 1/2 covered headlight doors, I remember paying a fortune to get the retractor motors from a junkyard for my fathers car when his failed to open.....thinking back it would have been easier and cheaper to just take the dang headlight door covers off😂🤣😅

@mexicanspec

12 күн бұрын

I bought a new 1987 Sunbrid SE with that same design.

A hidden headlights story. The Channel Uncle Tony's Garage had a project where they swapped a Slant Six into a Miata (1). They called the Miata Blinky because if they turned the lights on one headlight would pop up normaly. The other one would pop up. Go back down and then pop up again. 1) Why? He's a Mopar fanatic.

I didn't know about them opening when the engine got hot. That's cooler 😎 than the lights themselves,!

The weirdest hidden headlamps were the Porsche 928. Hidden headlamps that weren't hidden. They didn't look good up, they didn't look good down. They could have just hinged them the other way and they would be covered easily but no, they point up from the hood line when not in use making them easier to damage from road debris. Everything about them was wrong.

@pcno2832

23 күн бұрын

It was like watching someone wandering around staring at the sky, wondering when he'd run into something or trip on a curb.

Front-wheel drive with longitudinal V8 and chain-driven axel barreling through the sump - how many cars can claim that

Had a 1969 Tornado and really liked that car.

Thank you Adam. Thank you for another Oldsmobile Toronado video. I have a few things to say. The egg crate grille was offered in 1977 and 1979. It went back to a 1966 look in 1980. My 1992 Toronado has hidden headlamps and they are noisy when opening and closing but work fine. It also has the 1966 grille theme that runs to the taillamps like the 1966. Mine also has bucket seats. I owned three bench seat Toronados before the current 1992 model. The bucket seats became standard in the mid to late 1980's. Thank you again.

The 68-72 Dodge Chargers had grill sections that would flip up to reveal headlights. When closed, it looks like the grill. The 68's had grill style around the lamps.

The moving covers were a good idea. Compared to actuating the lights, less moving mass and no risk of shifting headlight alignment.

i love the COST argument, new cars nowdays cost the most in history and they look and feel worst then cars form decades ago. I like how some 80s-90s FWD "GM junk" is still more comfy and somehow better build then some new "premium" market cars. Especially in europe when we get all those small crapy cars

@arthurdombroskie3083

23 күн бұрын

I believe what he's referring to is cost to the manufacturer not cost to the consumer. The fat cats are always trying to save a buck.

@mpetersen6

23 күн бұрын

New cars today have far more sub systems in them than cars of the 60s and 70s. Even the top end Caddies or Lincolns. A channel that does a lot of engine swap videos should the mountain of wiring harnesses that came out of a vehicle they were swapping a New Hemi into. And that was a 90s model car.

@MyHumanWreckage

23 күн бұрын

People are more concerned about tech a car has vs build quality. Manufacturers now are more concerned about body structure and passing emissions standards. The actual quality of the interior and NVH seems to be a lesser concern.

@RivetGardener

23 күн бұрын

Oh hell yes. The maker that brings back hidden headlights, even if might be Hyundai, will sell tens of thousands on nostalgia alone.

I've never been a big Mopar fan, but I think I'd have to give the top prize for style (particularly when open) to the 1966-67 Dodge Charger. As you can find on YT, their headlights were mounted in buckets that rotated 90° with electric motors. About half of the grillwork's vertical chrome bars swung up to be replaced by the lights with IDENTICAL chrome bars around them... When the lights were on, they literally looked like they were set into a fixed grill like any other Dodge. 👍

Actually this is one hidden design that makes sense. With the lights behind the grill, at least if the grill failed to open enough light gets through to be able to drive it til it's repaired.

@kge420

23 күн бұрын

If they failed, they failed open. Vacuum was required to keep them closed. I was continually chasing vacuum leaks that wouldn’t let the grills stay down.

@marko7843

21 күн бұрын

Actually no, you couldn't drive it that way. Adam failed to mention that the backs of those honeycomb grilles had circles of solid black plastic so the shine of the glass and reflectors would not show through the grill in daylight...

@Iconoclasher

21 күн бұрын

@@marko7843Really? Darn! Leave it to the engineers to mess up one of my good ideas! 😂

@Coelacanth97

14 күн бұрын

The electric motor on the 1970 Charger had a knob at the bottom you could twist to manually open the headlight covers, if the motor failed.

@Iconoclasher

14 күн бұрын

@@Coelacanth97 Be nice if modern cars had backup knobs and cables for when the tech glitches. 😀

A continuing favorite; Adam, thank you for the in-depth video! I love the 1968 & ‘69 most.

I have an Opel GT with strange manual hidden headlights.

@jamesengland7461

23 күн бұрын

Those are so cool!

‘69 Ford XL had “fail open” doors. Vacuum held them closed, heavy torsion spring opened them. I once crushed a tool carrier when I disturbed the vacuum tank…

My dad bought a 1968 model new. Olive hardtop without the center console. Dad planned a cross-country “break-in” trip LA to Pittsburgh. Guess what issue came up in Arizona? 😂 The lights were on but not very bright it seemed. Those moving grills weren’t moving! 😅 Dad flagged a local Oldtimer and he had some wood in his truck. They propped open the grills with chocks of wood!! The rest of the trip was fine - but always a little embarrassing pulling in somewhere! 😅😲

Had a good chuckle at the duct tape securing the brake booster vacuum fitting. These are not hard to find, nor are they expensive.

Also new headlight technology (and regulations)makes it less important. American regulations only allowed round headlights until the "updated" regulations allowed square headlights, whereas European lights allowed (at least) to sculpt the area around incorporating the lights

@mpetersen6

23 күн бұрын

Car and Driver had an article in the 70s titled either US Headlight Laws Kill or US Headlight Laws Suck. It just wasn't the round headlights it was the limitations placed on them in terms of output. Plus headlights were required to be within a certain range above the pavement. A lot of SUVs on the road today would not meet those regs.

@samhill618

23 күн бұрын

@@mpetersen6 true, I forgot about the height issue on the hi end(as it was for the Corvette, Ferrari, Opel GT etc to get the hood lower)

Imo - the 65 Riviera is the best looking car ever designed and with those clam shell headlights.

Thank you from Spain for this video!! so interesting 👍🏼👍🏼

I remember falling in love with the first 66 Toronado I ever saw when I was a kid. I still love that car.

It's interesting to know that things awesome are things strange. Great flick!😅

Great memories. My Dad would get Mom's Oldsmobiles used as he couldn't stand driving off a lot in a new car. Mom got 2 Toronados, I think a 68-honeycomb grille for both. My friends were impressed with the front wheel drive - no hump on the floor, and the rolling cylinder speed-dial. I enjoyed driving them

When it comes to weird headlamps I vote for the Porsche 928‘s headlights. They are admittedly not very special when it comes to their mechanism, but they look stupid when the lights are out and like some sort of ridiculous frog when they are in operation.

I'm not sure why, but I don't think I've ever seen those years and those headlights before. Thanks for sharing.

I really love how much knowledge and detail you give us on all your videos. Excellent vids.

I thought pop-up headlights were generally stopped due to pedestrian safety concerns. Also, the Mercury Cougar from the 60's had the grills flip up to show the headlights.

The Opel GT’s hidden headlights rotated on an axis parallel to the hood length which I thought was cool. Pretty sure they were manually operated, as well.

@jimf4492

23 күн бұрын

Yes, they were manually operated, and they rolled over when you pulled a handle. My friend's younger brother had one. It looked great, but even though it looked like a little Corvette, it wasn't very fast.

@Primus54

22 күн бұрын

@@jimf4492 Yup… I believe it was a small, carbureted 4-cylinder with less than 100 h.p. No speed demon, for sure. 👍

@stevereimer5254

22 күн бұрын

@@Primus54 I believe they started with the 1600 and went to the 1900 that was used in the Manta. My wife had a '73 and then a '74 Manta in the '80s. The '73 suffered 3 rear end collisions in 15 months. The last one fatal.

@Primus54

21 күн бұрын

@@stevereimer5254 According to an article, the original Opel GT offered the following engines: 1,078 cc (65.8 cu in) OHV I4 (1.1L) 1,897 cc (115.8 cu in) CIH I4 (1.9L) By a wide margin, buyers in the U.S. opted for the 1.9L

67-69 Camaro with the RS option has doors that opened inwards towards the center of the car. The Riviera's 90 degrees was similar to the 63-67 Corvette.

The 1st gen Camaro hidden headlights were cool. They slid horizontal towards the grille.

Great car and knowledge, thank you.

Porsche 928 had some cool hidden headlamps.

@jimmymckay73

18 күн бұрын

The 928 doesn't really have hidden headlights and man do they look goofy when deployed . Still it is my favorite of all the Porsche cars.

@Coelacanth97

14 күн бұрын

@@jimmymckay73 The 944 had a much better design.

This was a mesmerizing video! It took me back to the days when we had cars and didn't have to scoot around in Asian econoboxes like they do in the 3rd world.

Beautifully styled cars and stunning video. So much information that you share so easily. You are a reference for these cars.

If I remember correctly, the area behind the headlamp doors wad nicely finished on my parents’ 1967 Thunderbird 4-door Landau. But maybe I’m mistaken.

Very cool! Never owned a Toronado but loved the styling and looks.

I wish they brought hidden headlights back. It was a far better invention than grill-less cars, the bottom breathers of the 80s and 90s. Every car I have owned without a grille eventually overheated

@jamesengland7461

23 күн бұрын

The overheating wasn't due to airflow.

@MarinCipollina

23 күн бұрын

Hidden headlights won't fix your overheating problems.

Radial tires in these cars make all the difference in the universe,nevertheless the 1968 Toro is a magnificent piece

Great video, one of the few old-car channels currently worth watching on here. I didn't realise those 68/69 Toronado grilles were also thermostatically-controlled for cooling purposes. Interestingly, this was pioneered on the 1932 Rolls-Royce 20/25 where the vertical slats opened wider when a certain temperature was reached.

My 67 TBird had a matching grill design around the headlights when opened.

Take a look at the 66 -67 Dodge Chargers. The headlights themselves rotated into place.

Back in the 70's I had the opportunity to take a road trip in a 67 Toronado. Wonderful car. I used to own a 69 Delta88.

I'm confused. Early in this video, you explained that the 66 and 67 Eldorado "had panels that dropped down to reveal the headlights." Isn't that the same as the 68 and 69 Toronado, only flipped 180 degrees? The C4 Corvette had hidden headlights that rotated up, back and around almost 270 degrees so the "lip" of the cover skin wouldn't create air turbulence. That was the most bizarre hidden headlamp operation IMO. Thanks for this video!

@RareClassicCars

23 күн бұрын

No. The Eldorado headlight doors weren’t part of the radiator grille

@krazmokramer

23 күн бұрын

@@RareClassicCars I thought you were referring to the actual opening sequence. Sorry.

My first car was a1970 Olds Cutlass Supreme with a center console automatic, the same shifter in that Toranado.

The retracting Toranado grill was pretty cool! Beautiful cars 😍 Thanks for sharing these!

The retractable Toronado grill was pretty cool! Beautiful cars 😍 Thanks for sharing these!

Dad had a 1969 maroon Toranodo , I recognize that rear radio speaker I use to hit my head on. Three kids in the back seat and as the middle child I seemed to always had to set in the middle, I was also with in arms reach of dad as he drove!

@mexicanspec

12 күн бұрын

You let the younger child have a real seat?

@DK-sw6xx

11 күн бұрын

@@mexicanspec there was never any let!

@mexicanspec

11 күн бұрын

@@DK-sw6xx I was the youngest and made to always sit in the middle with the shortest legs. In a Toronado that wasn't an issue but the older ones wanted the windows,

Very cool . I had a 1966 Dodge Charger the headlights were in rotating buckets with an electric motor for each headlight . It also had 4 bucket seats & an electro luminescent dash 😮 amongst other funky things . Basically mini neon tubes that illuminated the dash very similar looking illumination to modern cars 😃

Thank you for recording and posting this valuable educational video.

I always enjoy your videos. I'd say we have similar tastes in automobile beauty. I owned a 1967 Ford Thunderbird 4-door. It also had hidden headlights with a door that rotated 90º up and out of the way to reveal the bulbs. It also had a defeat mechanism, which allowed one to be able to keep these doors open all the time.