Strange answers to the psychopath test | Jon Ronson

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Is there a definitive line that divides crazy from sane? With a hair-raising delivery, Jon Ronson, author of The Psychopath Test, illuminates the gray areas between the two. (With live-mixed sound by Julian Treasure and animation by Evan Grant.)
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  • William Andrews
    William Andrews Жыл бұрын

    I think the biggest problem is that if you tell someone for 14 years every day that they are insane, at one point they start to believe you.

  • MerkzDude

    MerkzDude

    Ай бұрын

    insane for staying around you

  • John Strawb

    John Strawb

    Ай бұрын

    No, the biggest problem is that people believe the commercialization of psychiatry is actually meaningful, a legitimate lens through which to view mental health.

  • H F

    H F

    Ай бұрын

    @William Andrews then who said it, smart guy? And yes it's totally relevant. It's just a different anecdotal statement but ultimately has the same message that you stated. If you constantly tell someone that they're useless, will never amount to anything, they're psychotic, etc then eventually they'll believe it. Those who've been in abusive relationships, be it with significant others or even family, often suffer from the exact thing you described.

  • William Andrews

    William Andrews

    Ай бұрын

    @H F 1. Einstein never said that. 2. That has no relevance to anything here.

  • H F

    H F

    Ай бұрын

    “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” - Albert Einstein

  • A
    A Жыл бұрын

    Imagine after the speech he just started laughing and said “ That's right. I am Tony ”

  • 3.KingsDetail

    3.KingsDetail

    9 күн бұрын

    You need help.

  • Daniel Swain

    Daniel Swain

    11 күн бұрын

    Shutter island style

  • T Bee

    T Bee

    Ай бұрын

    OMG! I just KNEW that was gonna happen! I was waiting for it. 🤣

  • Isdianti Roselini

    Isdianti Roselini

    Ай бұрын

    omg u make my dayyy

  • Six Jhon Tong Alamar

    Six Jhon Tong Alamar

    2 ай бұрын

    I was kinda expecting for him to say that Tony is just a figure and not an actual person, rather Tony is everyone of us

  • |_UC1E
    |_UC1E Жыл бұрын

    ,,There's about 30 or 40 psychopaths in this room." Psychopaths in the room: *laughing inside*

  • Andrew Brinkerhoff

    Andrew Brinkerhoff

    3 ай бұрын

    Psychopaths in the room "I hope I'm not sitting next to one of those psychopaths"

  • Black Ghost

    Black Ghost

    9 ай бұрын

    @Marisa Martin who doesn’t care?

  • Marisa Martin

    Marisa Martin

    9 ай бұрын

    @Black Ghost They don't care

  • maryan adote

    maryan adote

    10 ай бұрын

    @Owen Sontchi that is correct

  • ZX7 -RR

    ZX7 -RR

    11 ай бұрын

    @Owen Sontchi I think it's the case that most psychopaths are not killers because, basically, they gain no pleasure from it, or at least they understand the risk of punishment and the threat to self preservation, hence they don't do it. However, in my mind, the most DEFNING characteristic of a psychopath is a complete lack of empathy. It is impossible for them to feel emotionally bad for other people, or to empathise with other people's suffering. They UNDERSTAND people's suffering, but they can't FEEL it. If you have any empathy at all, then you are not a psychopath in my book, even if you have a lot of the other "traits" like narcissism, risk taking and impulsiveness. I suppose some people can have selective empathy .. and "switch off" their empathy, but usually that is only possible when angry, drugged or drunk, or under threat/duress or when ordered to do so by superiors/peer group (e.g. soldiers in war). I think some kids at a young age lack empathy, but then genuinely develop a conscience and gain empathy as they enter adulthood. It's the ones that don't who become full on psychopaths.

  • lunar lux
    lunar lux Жыл бұрын

    I started therapy properly a year ago after a pretty intense period of self-hatred and self-harm. My psychologist was very clear in letting me know that I showed *traits* of Borderline Personality Disorder. I fit the bill, I could tick off on a lot of the 'symptoms,' I related heavily to others I met with BPD, but she didn't want me to diagnose and *define* myself by that. After a year in therapy, there's been certain traits I don't fit at all anymore, and some I never did, and sometimes a trigger will have me acting exactly like that. But she understands that grey area- and the focus is on managing the triggers, never the disorder being What I Am.

  • S. Módica

    S. Módica

    2 ай бұрын

    BPD is highly stigmatized even within mental health fields, let alone in the real world, so your psychologist did you a huge favor by not referring you to a psychiatrist for a formal diagnosis, given that you probably do have BPD by your own description. You probably do qualify for a diagnosis, but seeing that you have insight into your traits and are working towards treatment, letting go of pursuing the formal diagnosis may be very helpful to you in the long run. I hope you're doing much better and keep progressively going better!

  • Less is Best

    Less is Best

    3 ай бұрын

    What is the name of the disorder where dealing with the mental health system makes you crazy?

  • Saga Anserum

    Saga Anserum

    3 ай бұрын

    Ooh, person-first versus identity-first perspectives. Nice

  • Alèxia

    Alèxia

    5 ай бұрын

    Bad psychologists/psychiatrists will give people a really bad impression of the practice, but a good psych is a lifesaver. I'm so glad you found a skilled one who just focuses on what IS and works with the symptoms that present. Abstractifying someone to a generalized clinical archetype means completely missing the context of that person's life and actual psyche, and makes a doctor ineffective. I'm really glad your doc did not do that.

  • Dani Burke

    Dani Burke

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes that's why DBT dialectical behavioral therapy is best suited for BPD

  • Jake Waugh
    Jake Waugh2 жыл бұрын

    "The grey area is were you find the complexity, the truth, the humanity." Beautiful quote.

  • Suci Laoni

    Suci Laoni

    15 күн бұрын

    @Cressida Tuson Ahh I didn't realize it was 1 year ago, But thankss I see..:D

  • Cressida Tuson

    Cressida Tuson

    Ай бұрын

    @Suci Laoni he said, what would you have done? Meaning, what would you have done in this situation. Would you have met Tony knowing he had psychopathic traits.

  • Slake Pliskin

    Slake Pliskin

    Ай бұрын

    @Macbobob Yes, Cohen! Love, Suzanne ☕ 🍊

  • Slake Pliskin

    Slake Pliskin

    Ай бұрын

    where

  • Joan

    Joan

    3 ай бұрын

    It’s a really beautiful quote indeed

  • Shaun K.S.
    Shaun K.S. Жыл бұрын

    The dsm gives several symptoms of psychological disorders. The reason why everyone can relate to those symptoms is because, at healthy levels, they're all mostly normal human behaviors. They only become disorders if these symptoms interfere with your ability to live a normal life. (By normal I mean live a functional live)

  • Charles Ghosh

    Charles Ghosh

    3 ай бұрын

    @Less is Best I cant tell if ur serious or not👀

  • noname

    noname

    3 ай бұрын

    @Bruce Gelman Usually I think they mean, you can take care of yourself like keeping a job, stay out of trouble, do regular daily things.

  • Less is Best

    Less is Best

    3 ай бұрын

    Nope if you have long time chronic severe depression you will be a psychopath because you cannot function. They cannot be blamed for not curing you. IT has to be something else. REALLY bad, IF they could not fix it. NOW doesn't that sound like a psychopath? Grandiose sense of self? I wish someone would do a move about this. Great plot.

  • Pinchi Bruha

    Pinchi Bruha

    4 ай бұрын

    @Elizabeth Alvarez no it doesn’t, it spells!

  • z g

    z g

    5 ай бұрын

    I actually asked my psychologist when I was diagnosed with anxiety: but aren't these traits just a normal part of human life? I think I'm just an introvert. She said it is the intensity of these emotions that define it as a mental illness, when it interferes with your life. I then started to realise that constantly feeling on edge and frozen was not a healthy amount of anxiety to have.

  • Ashley Wei
    Ashley Wei Жыл бұрын

    The absolute best Ted Talk I've ever heard. "He's a gray area in a world that doesn't like gray areas. But the gray areas are where you find the complexity." The majority of societal problems has to do with the many labels and stereotypes places upon things. If those left, we would be a lot better off.

  • Carrie Dewey

    Carrie Dewey

    8 ай бұрын

    Reality is everything is sjhades of grey. Not black and white

  • LucyLuluSuperGuru

    LucyLuluSuperGuru

    Жыл бұрын

    In some cases you would be right...in others, many of us would be wandering lost in a fog looking for someone to lead us.

  • Julius Hamilton
    Julius Hamilton Жыл бұрын

    This showed a high degree of authentic literary talent that reminded me of Mark Twain, from the inexplicably interesting details (the color red at the asylum) to the restrained, poised, moderated yet perfect diction, to the amazing winding, hovering complexity of the narrative that keeps turning back on itself and deepening its themes in surprising ways, asking us to contemplate original, open ended situations and their analyses. A strongly insightful mind here.

  • Heidi Smith

    Heidi Smith

    2 ай бұрын

    Well done

  • Ann Zipperer

    Ann Zipperer

    2 ай бұрын

    Well said

  • Helena Correia

    Helena Correia

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes!!

  • Colleen Verdon

    Colleen Verdon

    Жыл бұрын

    I felt exactly the same as you. This guy is an amazing speaker!

  • Samoua Swagie
    Samoua Swagie Жыл бұрын

    This is the best speech I’ve ever watched I think. This is beautifully told, it’s thought triggering, it’s viewpoint changing. My words are failing me. 8 years later, this is still mind blowing.

  • nickacelvn

    nickacelvn

    3 ай бұрын

    It's a great speech a.

  • Kat Page

    Kat Page

    7 ай бұрын

    What about 9

  • ʕ ꈍᴥꈍʔ
    ʕ ꈍᴥꈍʔ2 жыл бұрын

    "It's a lot harder to convince people you're sane than to convince people you're crazy." I fell that on a spiritual level.

  • Ash Trash

    Ash Trash

    4 ай бұрын

    Lol anyone with a psychological disorder would love it if this was true. Most often, we get told and/or treated like we are perfectly capable of being "normal" and that our aberrant behaviors are failures of our own morality or ability.

  • line fire

    line fire

    11 ай бұрын

    My parents used to think I was going crazy because I talked to myself a lot. Then one day I found an FB post that they liked, it goes sth like 'I talk to myself to relieve stress'. Guess who held the mirror to their faces XD Everyone is a little crazy. What matter is if you : 1. are able to live in society, 2. do not cause harm to others or yourself.

  • Mercenery123

    Mercenery123

    Жыл бұрын

    @Raijin 29 we have evolve with it for thousands of years since . I think it's hard to just forget about it. Me and many others are able to live without it due to our comfortable and civilized live of the recent century.

  • Босс

    Босс

    Жыл бұрын

    @Ivan Bigcock what does inane mean?

  • Ivan Bigcock

    Ivan Bigcock

    Жыл бұрын

    Only insane people believe in spirits.

  • Alizah
    Alizah Жыл бұрын

    Don’t mind this comment: I’m just writing down some time code I’ll have to use for a school presentation: Tony’s story : 2:24 Tony sane-looking outfit : 4:21 Convince you’re sane : 5:56 "sitting like a journalist" : 6:35 Statistics: 8:50 Capitalism : 9:25 AI Dunlap’s grand Florida mansion: 10:52 Dunlap psychopath checklist : 12:19 Journalist defining by the maddest edges: 13:49 Everyone is a bit psychopathic : 15:46 Gray area : 16:54

  • András Szepesi

    András Szepesi

    8 күн бұрын

    How did the presentation go?

  • Peace Pills

    Peace Pills

    Жыл бұрын

    sounds like it’d be a really good presentation. i’d be entertained the whole time if i was hearing this story for the first time in class.

  • Jaehee Kanghan

    Jaehee Kanghan

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually thank u, that will help me too in the very near future

  • Astrid
    Astrid Жыл бұрын

    People seem to forget that psychopathy is not an official diagnosis. It’s not even in the DSM. The true definition of a psychopath is antisocial personality disorder.

  • Jon Hakim

    Jon Hakim

    7 ай бұрын

    @Simran Rawat But there's no official medical separation between "psychopath" and "sociopath". The traditional divisions (one is inborn and the other acquired, one can form attachments and the other can't) aren't actually backed up by any research, they're just platitudes.

  • Piotr P

    Piotr P

    Жыл бұрын

    you could always do your own research you know that?

  • Dinorah T de León

    Dinorah T de León

    Жыл бұрын

    Astrid, You nailed it ASPD are so very much antisocial , very cunning , manipulative and always about themselves . I would add vain selfish and witty .

  • Luis Girelli

    Luis Girelli

    Жыл бұрын

    @Simran Rawat That is correct, indeed. Brain damage could cause a vast number of personality changes, including antisocial ones. And some people do have genetic predisposition to have certain types of mental disorder, but the environment still has some effect on the outcome. In conclusion, psychopaty could be both a "born with" disease and also an "acquired" disease.

  • Simran Rawat

    Simran Rawat

    Жыл бұрын

    @*JoshS29* yes sometimes injury to the cerebral cortex can lead to psychopathy. but certain people have genetic predisposition to it. however, if given the right environment they may not develop into psychopaths. on the other hand if early on the traits go unnoticed, they can collapse into psychopathy later in life

  • Callum Mullans
    Callum Mullans5 ай бұрын

    I do feel the most harmful and frequent form of psychopathy is the need to pigeonhole others. They say psychopathy is on a spectrum like most disorders that effect humans but “professionals” often play the flagging game because of one tiny detail of a person that may happen to find its way into conversation and fit the bill. Psychological evaluation for any disorder can verge on being criminalising in this day and age as it is done belligerently and even atrociously.

  • paracosm
    paracosm Жыл бұрын

    "a world that doesn't like grey areas" is a perfect description of Twitter.

  • Saga Anserum

    Saga Anserum

    3 ай бұрын

    Honestly just the whole Internet. People view others as 'you're human, I agree with you, you can't be wrong' or 'you're a monster, I hate you, everything you do is wrong.' People need to see others as human.

  • paracosm

    paracosm

    7 ай бұрын

    @First Name how does racism have anything to do with this now?

  • 《🕊》Seraphim《🕊》

    《🕊》Seraphim《🕊》

    Жыл бұрын

    Everything, really.

  • Henry Jackson
    Henry Jackson8 ай бұрын

    I remember learning about a psychology study where the researchers would admit themselves into a mental hospital. Don't remember too much of the details, but the main point was once you're labelled as "insane" it's extremely hard to remove the tag. Even if you behave normally (which is hard to do when you're actively trying to behave normally) and deny that you're insane, it's labelled as insane behavior.

  • Rosie High Queen of all
    Rosie High Queen of all Жыл бұрын

    The man is charming, confident and has shown to be cunning when he wants to be. Whose to say the story isn’t about him?

  • H

    H

    22 күн бұрын

    Exactly

  • 🍓Strawberrie🍓

    🍓Strawberrie🍓

    Ай бұрын

    Hmm.🌚

  • HaHarmageddonTV

    HaHarmageddonTV

    9 ай бұрын

    Sussy impostor

  • The Devil

    The Devil

    Жыл бұрын

    We can never know...

  • darthvaeber
    darthvaeber6 ай бұрын

    One of the best TED talks I have watched. Beautiful delivery. He made some excellent points about humanity. The bit at the end about the grey area is where we find the truth was so important. Thanks

  • Thomas Hemingway, M.D.

    Thomas Hemingway, M.D.

    20 күн бұрын

    It was a great one!

  • Colleen Verdon
    Colleen Verdon Жыл бұрын

    Wow. That made me think in new ways. You were a very clear, very knowledgeable, very charming and very sincere speaker. If fact, I don't think I've ever heard a better speaker. It reminded me of when I worked in an in-patient mental health facility. I mentioned casually one day to a co-worker that I felt that the patients were mirrors of ourselves, just with the traits magnified. This person just became unglued. Actually very angry that I would imply that he was in any way similar to a crazy person. I thought your lecture was fascinating and reminded me of the truth that everything is on a continuum, even madness. Thanks for making my day more interesting.

  • Nathan Waltrip
    Nathan Waltrip2 жыл бұрын

    Tony: I'm not a psychopath! Tony's doctor: *That's exactly what a psychopath would say!*

  • Triiremin99

    Triiremin99

    8 ай бұрын

    lol

  • Marisa Martin

    Marisa Martin

    9 ай бұрын

    That's why psychiatrists are scary...

  • Huskie Huskerson

    Huskie Huskerson

    Жыл бұрын

    There's literally no getting out of this loophole

  • Kritee Chhabra

    Kritee Chhabra

    Жыл бұрын

    @moist truely agree

  • The1ebutuoy
    The1ebutuoy Жыл бұрын

    I think the conclusion is so on point, we live in a world that’s obsessed with categorisation because it makes things easier for us to understand but this is something that doesn’t work well when applied to mental state

  • Aaron Day

    Aaron Day

    8 ай бұрын

    Spot on

  • Coldbattery: Movies Tributes And Music Video
    Coldbattery: Movies Tributes And Music Video4 ай бұрын

    One of the best speech I've ever heard in my life. great pacing, brilliant performance

  • Heather Dawson Sunday
    Heather Dawson Sunday7 ай бұрын

    This was so great! I enjoyed every second. This guy is a phenomenal story teller. 👏👏👏👏👏

  • Docta Osiris
    Docta Osiris Жыл бұрын

    I've had many different diagnoses over the last 30 years or so, but in the last 15(ish)years it's been stuck on a specific few, Paranoid Schizophrenia, Chronic Anxiety and Depression, OCD and Panic Disorder, although I personally recognise other issues like hording and virtually no self confidence whatsoever, yet I still don't think they have my so-called "diagnoses" correct, I've been to prison many times and in and out of a dozen different mental health hospitals including 2 different lock-up ones, yet not a single psychiatrist has ever given a single identical diagnosis, the vast majority of them are just winging it and the rest just randomly pick a diagnosis in their head and slap that label on you so they can convince themselves they've done their job and can go home to bed, who's really the psychopath in this scenario? 😲

  • Helena Lena

    Helena Lena

    3 ай бұрын

    I feel you. I went through so many disorders for doctors to find out I'm just a very, very anxious autistic person.

  • Daniela Aguilar
    Daniela Aguilar Жыл бұрын

    " Capitalism rewards psychopathic behavior: the lack of empathy, the glibness, cunning, manipulative, remorseless. In fact, capitalism is a physical manifestation of psychopathy. " - Journalist Jon Ronson.

  • Teresa Thomley

    Teresa Thomley

    6 ай бұрын

    @312 LOL

  • 312

    312

    6 ай бұрын

    @Tyler H LOL

  • Kat
    Kat Жыл бұрын

    His presentation and speech was insanely good though.. I got goosebumps by the end

  • Vasili Giannoutsos
    Vasili Giannoutsos Жыл бұрын

    "Humanity doesn't like Grey Areas..." What a powerful statement, Great TED Talk

  • Barnaby Wilde
    Barnaby Wilde6 ай бұрын

    as a kid with severe depression i was hospitalized briefly and was surprised how often i was treated as "crazy." very disheartening, and i feared being cast into the insane crowd and never being released.

  • Jack Frost
    Jack Frost2 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of a story about a man who was visiting a friend in a psychiatric hospital. He couldn't find the right ward when he spotted a man watering the garden and asked for directions. The man gave him the information and then said "I'm actually a patient here, you can see that I'm quite normal, could you put in a good word for me, because I don't really belong here." The visitor agreed to do so, then turned away to walk off. Suddenly he was hit in the back of the head with a brick, and the man said "Don't forget now!"

  • Flanno

    Flanno

    2 ай бұрын

    Haha, I'm going to share this one with my dad

  • MortishaPoppins

    MortishaPoppins

    2 ай бұрын

    Wow I just read through the comments. I can't believe how many people didn't get it??!!

  • MortishaPoppins

    MortishaPoppins

    2 ай бұрын

    Oh my God this made me laugh so hard

  • HARMONY EXISTS

    HARMONY EXISTS

    3 ай бұрын

    😆😆

  • Lesley Jones

    Lesley Jones

    3 ай бұрын

    😂

  • Greg Bearne
    Greg Bearne4 ай бұрын

    As someone who was diagnosed Bipolar at 26 years old after years of misdiagnoses and knew I had a problem. It hurts me that children are diagnosed as bipolar. You have to be careful with such a diagnosis.

  • Abu Dekhan
    Abu Dekhan Жыл бұрын

    I’ve re watched/ listened to this 10+ times just for how well this guy tells the story. Good stuff.

  • Toooba Rehman
    Toooba Rehman3 ай бұрын

    It was really informative . I will always remember this while persuing my career as a clinical psychologist .

  • Katrus91
    Katrus914 ай бұрын

    I find the part about bomb-sniffing bees interesting, because I've been to bad MDs and bad therapists many times, and every time I feel like I don't trust them and read my journal afterwards, it's obvious why I didn't trust them, simply because they misinterpreted several things I said. For example, when one MD asked me about my daily life as unemployed I said that I play video games, go for walks, and other things like that. What they wrote was "Plays video games all day and never goes out". And once I told a therapist that my depression got worse a specific year, and I had previously mentioned that I moved in with my partner that same year, in my journal it said "Partner makes her depressed", which wasn't true at all, especially since my depression got worse in the beginning of said year, and I moved in with my partner in the end of that year, and my partner actually helped me to get help in the first place, because I didn't even know I needed help, my partner saw the signs. In the past 1.5 years, almost 10 years since I first tried to get help, I've finally found a therapist and a psychiatrist who I trust. I haven't read the journals they write, because I don't feel like I need to, because I doubt that they write things that are simply not true. Sure that they might misinterpret me at times, but they're so understanding in general that I trust that they don't write things that are outright wrong.

  • Saga Anserum

    Saga Anserum

    3 ай бұрын

    Psychiatry unfortunately has the same issue as medical sciences do: people will join for the sake of having control over others. I'm glad you found someone who joined to genuinely help :)

  • Tara Boyd
    Tara Boyd Жыл бұрын

    Most important to me is this journalist admitting that he took the bits that backed up how he wanted his story to look and left out anything that contradicted it. It takes a good person to admit that.

  • Monty Saints
    Monty Saints2 ай бұрын

    I am currently reading his book, "the psychopath test", so I know all of this but it is pretty cool to hear it explained with an ominous aura.

  • thisismalvar
    thisismalvar Жыл бұрын

    To my understanding, the only really important line that defines who gets classified with disorders is whether people manage to conform to the laws of society. I personally have the problem of being too empathetic most of the time but when my brain overloads due to too much emotional stress, i turn into a full psychopath and solve the situation. Being also an intelligent and well-educated person, my psychopathic side ruthlessly uses words and emotional manipulation to get myself into a situation where i am able to think normal again and usually this does not really hold on for long and often my emotional manipulation goes more towards doing whatever the other person needs to not feel negative emotions anymore so i can return to feeling emotions without having to feel their pain. I think that almost everyone has this sort of cold panic mode where you only follow your instinct to survive with no regards to how it affects others. With serious mental conditions, that mode can be active for days or even longer with no actual reason other than feeling overwhelmed by old memories. The dangerous thing about psychopaths however is that they never leave that state and for their entire lives, they see other people only as enemies in a game for control - which again is actually a rather minor issues if they believe in conforming to the laws of society. The point where they usually turn violent is only when from their perspective, there isn't even an incentive to avoid hurting others because there is never any retribution because they grew up in a socialisation where hurting others was not even considered a bad thing and therefore being the strongest person never had any negative consequences - until it did and they get locked away.

  • Thomas Hemingway, M.D.

    Thomas Hemingway, M.D.

    20 күн бұрын

    Interesting insights!

  • Wade Wilson
    Wade Wilson Жыл бұрын

    I personally find psychopathy fascinating. I have repressed a lot of my emotions because of trauma, and I am working to get them back. I can only imagine how difficult life is for people without any emotions or capacity to even reach that point. Thankfully, I am overly empathetic, though, converse to the lack of empathy that presents in psychopathy, but I can only imagine how isolating it is for psychopaths. I read a wonderful article recently written by a self professed and professionally diagnosed psychopath, about relational problems she and her husband were having due to him lying about an affair. On the surface, she doesn't have emotions, but the fact that she was effected by his infidelity (moreso his lying about it) shows me that she DOES have some emotions even if she isn't aware of it. Much like many other mental illnesses, I believe that psychopathy has a range. A scale, if you will. Ranging from completely lacking in empathy and emotion to slightly disconnected, and not everyone is completely turned off. Just something to think about, I guess.

  • SNELGRAVE101

    SNELGRAVE101

    4 ай бұрын

    Alexythymia they call it, lack of emotion, it's not a complete lack of but you don't have emotions like most people I. E. Sadness, empathy, guilt etc it doesn't mean that you are evil 😈 or anything it's just that you don't react the way others do to things like death, trauma, love etc.

  • Peace Love

    Peace Love

    Жыл бұрын

    Just because she was affected, doesn't mean that she was affected emotionally. It would have been a blow to her ego. Empaths often project their empathy onto psychopaths, narcissists, and sociopaths rather than simply understanding that they people with those conditions do not have empathy.

  • Julia Dzierzeski

    Julia Dzierzeski

    Жыл бұрын

    What’s the paper callef

  • Luis Girelli
    Luis Girelli Жыл бұрын

    The DSM is indeed criticized in regard to what kind of parameter has been used to define criteria for all those diseases, but I do feel important to make a couple of remarks about this video. One is that everyone can have traits of a pathological personality, without having the full disorder, and this is normal, because no one is perfect, so it's ok that we sometimes have an errand behavior, assuming that it doesn't cause serious harm to self or others. Two is that you can't just read the criteria and try to match things like he said. It is said in the DSM that those behaviors have to be present in a very constant way, being a standart way of responding to enviroment for the person being avalueted, not just happen once. They also must impair the person life in all it's aspects, like making that person go to jail repeatedly, or having issues in home and/or in the workplace. A trained professional usually knows how to recognize when life impairing is occuring by personality traits, and if those traits do compose a real disorder.

  • lychee
    lychee Жыл бұрын

    there are great points in this - sometimes, people overanalyze things - you can eventually turn into the person you “hate” - let’s just say the media or everyone else will always nitpick on other’s business -_”You shouldn’t define people based on their maddest edges”_

  • Elliott Shultz
    Elliott Shultz2 ай бұрын

    That was an wonderful story incredibly well delivered!

  • Steph Jones Counselling & Psychotherapy
    Steph Jones Counselling & Psychotherapy3 ай бұрын

    During my life I amassed a huge number of diagnostic labels - anxiety, GAD, depression, OCD, SAD, PTSD, potential bipolar/BPD, complex PTSD.... only, it was none of those things. It was autism and it took 41-years, decades of therapy, and countless clinical assessments to be correctly identified. The DSM is only helpful if the clinician is fully aware. And believe me, not all practitioners are made equal. Misdiagnosis happens all the time.

  • Neal Teitelbaum
    Neal Teitelbaum2 жыл бұрын

    Most important to me is this journalist admitting that he took the bits that backed up how he wanted his story to look and left out anything that contradicted it. It takes a good person to admit that.

  • Noga Shalev

    Noga Shalev

    2 жыл бұрын

    It takes a good person to disclose all the information and make their story about what actually happened, not what they want to say.

  • Troy Niles

    Troy Niles

    2 жыл бұрын

    And that should be common ground being a good person that is But it doesn’t seem that way seems like we go wow that makes him a good person is if there aren’t that many it’s a rarity

  • donutranger

    donutranger

    2 жыл бұрын

    literally any journalist imo

  • Heather Redden

    Heather Redden

    2 жыл бұрын

    Some people define lying and yellow journalism as “good” ... it takes an honest man to be truthful AND vunerable

  • Haiiry Cake

    Haiiry Cake

    2 жыл бұрын

    @TheBuddyLama There's no system. It's one person alone trying to find out what he can do to make money based on what ordinary people want. There doesn't have to be any system involved there. It's just the stupidity of the masses.

  • Loulabelle Parsnips
    Loulabelle Parsnips2 ай бұрын

    Great talk, thank you Mr Ronson. This really made me think about things.

  • Mary Samreth
    Mary Samreth Жыл бұрын

    "It's a lot harder to convince people you're sane than to convince people you're crazy." I fell that on a spiritual level.

  • DL Media
    DL Media Жыл бұрын

    he did a damn good job at having everyone believe they’re a bit psycho

  • Shivani •
    Shivani •4 ай бұрын

    This reminds me of a study conducted in 1960s by Rosenhan, where 8 completely sane people go into these hospitals claiming they heard voices but then act completely normal. it tuned out that nurses recorded their very normal behavior like pacing out of boredom as schizophrenic traits

  • Anime People
    Anime People2 жыл бұрын

    someone once said "it is easier to fool people than to convince them they're fooled"

  • A

    A

    Ай бұрын

    Because there egos don't want to accept that they have been fooled.

  • MJay-En

    MJay-En

    3 ай бұрын

    OMG WOW

  • Brian McCarthy

    Brian McCarthy

    9 ай бұрын

    Anime People Mark Twain said "it is easier to fool people than to convince people they've been fooled".

  • Aryan M

    Aryan M

    Жыл бұрын

    Brandolini's law

  • C Warpaint

    C Warpaint

    Жыл бұрын

    Perfect to describe the world lately.

  • Still A Fine Line
    Still A Fine Line Жыл бұрын

    This man is funny! It’s very difficult to joke about such a intense topic.

  • CG Toronto Gal
    CG Toronto Gal8 ай бұрын

    One of the better Ted Talks I've heard! A great story teller!

  • Nick Barnes
    Nick Barnes Жыл бұрын

    I personally find psychopathy fascinating. I have repressed a lot of my emotions because of trauma, and I am working to get them back. I can only imagine how difficult life is for people without any emotions or capacity to even reach that point. Thankfully, I am overly empathetic, though, converse to the lack of empathy that presents in psychopathy, but I can only imagine how isolating it is for psychopaths. I read a wonderful article recently written by a self professed and professionally diagnosed psychopath, about relational problems she and her husband were having due to him lying about an affair. On the surface, she doesn't have emotions, but the fact that she was effected by his infidelity (moreso his lying about it) shows me that she DOES have some emotions even if she isn't aware of it. Much like many other mental illnesses, I believe that psychopathy has a range. A scale, if you will. Ranging from completely lacking in empathy and emotion to slightly disconnected, and not everyone is completely turned off. Just something to think about, I guess.

  • Rose Quartz
    Rose Quartz4 ай бұрын

    Idk what it is about this guy but his talk was absolutely captivating. It wasn't just the subject matter, it was the way he delivered it. Also I don't know if those scientologists proved that psychiatry is the baloney that they think it is.

  • Thomas Hemingway, M.D.

    Thomas Hemingway, M.D.

    20 күн бұрын

    Agreed

  • Jeffrey Hanson
    Jeffrey Hanson2 жыл бұрын

    It appears a lot of people missed the point of this. This story was neither pro-psychiatry or anti-psychiatry. He masterfully threw in cultural tidbits that created our own bias'. I see Psychologists here blasting this...just a heads up, your own bias kept you from realizing in the end, he did not trust Tony (declined invite for a drink) and it appeared he began to wonder if he, himself, was conned by Tony. The reality is that this is the art of masterful storytelling utilizing our conscious, subconscious, and senses to all react completely different.

  • Mohammed Rizwan

    Mohammed Rizwan

    6 ай бұрын

    Exactly my thought. This is a wonderful piece of storytelling.

  • Jason Ablah

    Jason Ablah

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not that deep brl

  • Angelizar

    Angelizar

    Жыл бұрын

    @Umar Farooq Also, I find it conflicting you say that psychiatrist are at the top. They have a different set of skills from psychologist. They may know how to medicate but that is just supplementary, psychologist has a broader understanding of how to evaluate and intervene behaviour. Psychiatrist may be necessary sometimes for a good treatment but psychology is at the top when yoy talk about behaviour. One more thing, please be careful using the term mind. It may be something you use lightly but it has a lot of implications (and some of them are closey related to a not scientific spirit)

  • Angelizar

    Angelizar

    Жыл бұрын

    @Umar Farooq You know you are wrong right. Psychiatry and Psychology overlap at some areas but psychology is soooo much broader. Please check your facts before saying this kind (repeatedly even). For starters psychology is a science that has a lot of aplications and division that go further than just clinic. Treating patients is the bread and butter of psychiatry while it is just another branch of psychology. It is so much so that Neurology, Pharmacology, Anthropology, Sociology, Linguistics, Politics, Law and so many other subjects also overlap with it. And that without considering the rich amount of knowledge it creates all by itself. Look, just delete your commente and it'll be ok. Stop spreading misinformation.

  • Room 237
    Room 2374 ай бұрын

    What is "normal" to one tribe, is pure insanity to another. We are all WAY too complex to be labeled by those little boxes meant to define us; every person reacting to their own specific situations and wee blip in time. Despite societies boxy, made-up mandates, I'm so glad I met people in my early 20's who helped me rethink those boxes and enabled me to slowly break out of them.

  • Shubhdeep Kaur Gill
    Shubhdeep Kaur Gill Жыл бұрын

    Even my psychology teacher condemns the DSM. The reason they keep coming up with ridiculous mental disorders is to make the book bigger. To make different and new versions. To make money. This is not psychologists. This is corporations. As always

  • Celia

    Celia

    2 ай бұрын

    I disagree. Do they have it all right? No, and that is why it is constantly being revised, and the diagnostic criteria for each disorder is redefined from time to time. They don’t yet have all the answers, but this is the best guideline we have for diagnosing people. I have ADHD and when I was diagnosed they said it was ADD (ie without the hyperactivity). I understand they call it all ADHD now, but with different subtypes. And who knows what it will be called in another ten years. But it is more useful having this diagnostic manual, than not, because we have a need to explain and define human behaviour which falls outside of the “norms”.

  • Xob

    Xob

    Жыл бұрын

    Amen

  • Alex Vischer

    Alex Vischer

    Жыл бұрын

    But you don’t need to make the book bigger to make more money. You only need new editions. And the latter can be achieved by revising the contents of the book every year and updating with the latest scientific findings. So “money” doesn’t seem like it explains why the DSM keeps getting ridiculous additions, though that’s just my take

  • Simran Rawat

    Simran Rawat

    Жыл бұрын

    @Christopher Bownes i do agree that psychologists can be a little crazy, i mean everyone is. but i disagree on the fact that they are more egotistic than any other professionals. i mean a surgeon can fix someone's heart, a yoga instructor teaches you how to do yoga. a psychologist (therapist) does not interpret your life, they help YOU interpret it, the same way a teacher prepares you for an exam but doesn't take the exam for you.

  • Christopher Bownes

    Christopher Bownes

    Жыл бұрын

    @Shubhdeep Kaur Gill Ad Hominem. Typical for the egotistical. Just because you took Psychology 101 at community college, doesn't make you an expert.

  • Anduril
    Anduril7 ай бұрын

    Thing is, there are a lot of functioning psychopaths. And by functioning I just mean they are able to live fairly normal lives. But every psychopath becomes a serial killer. But those are the psychopaths we're obsessed with. Those are the ones who get excessive attention in fiction. Those are always what we think of when we think of psychopaths. But psychopaths could very well be doctors, lawyers, police officers, or various other professions. They may even thrive in those environments and do their jobs well. And in the cases where they are helping people, perhaps their motivations aren't all that altruistic, yet they still perform admirably for the fact that they thrive off being the best at that job. The pleasant outcome for others is just a happy side effect. I do think that in the case of criminal psychopathy, there is a little of nurture and nature involved. There's the predisposition to psychopathy, but then there's the upbringing without the proper structure and emphasis on ethical behavior. While psychopaths may not personally see a reason for behaving ethically, they may see it as necessary to operate in society. Just like any of us would shy away from breaking the law because of the dire consequences, psychopaths can very well understand that rules and laws and ethics are the social contract we all abide by, or risk getting labeled a criminal, an outsider. But also yes, structure, and purpose can give many psychopaths the tools to operate as proper members of society. They can feed their egos via business conquests, or in other challenging environments. They can feel happy and fulfilled in their achievements. Maybe they aren't the best parents. Maybe they are a terrible choice for jobs that require empathy and respect for other people. But that doesn't mean they are all evil schemers. They are just people. And I'm sure there's a spectrum as well, from mildly psychopathic, to wildly psychopathic. But even in cases with a straight up psychopath, maybe they are still just normal people doing their job and being a participating and functional member of society. Serial killers are quite rare. And there are perhaps several factors playing into what led them to that particular path. But one thing's for sure, not every psychopath out there becomes a serial killer, or a killer at all. Otherwise our jails would be overrun with serial killers instead of drug offenders. And pretty much everyone would personally know a serial killer in their lives. Thank goodness that's not the case at all! And gratefully most psychopaths are just regular people, some very likely successful people as well.

  • MTea
    MTea Жыл бұрын

    I watch this again and again for pure entertain value. The story-telling here is… perfection

  • eiebsrebla
    eiebsrebla3 жыл бұрын

    A book with 374 mental disorders... Find someone that has none of them and watch that number go up to 375.

  • Dikjam Kare

    Dikjam Kare

    4 ай бұрын

    One more comment

  • 7EMP3ST

    7EMP3ST

    Жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • Kritee Chhabra

    Kritee Chhabra

    Жыл бұрын

    that's true...

  • Lëë Sin Only

    Lëë Sin Only

    Жыл бұрын

    thats deep

  • Perry Kan
    Perry Kan11 ай бұрын

    This is such a fascinating and unique perspective of viewing psychopathy. I've read Kent Kiehl's book and it says that he has found with fMRIs that psychopaths's paralimbic system shrunk. But even though that is true, the volume of grey matter which should be in the paralimbic system is not defined, every individual is different, we don't know when does quantitative change turn into qualitative change which make the psychopath a criminal, so there must be a large grey area where most of people may fall in.

  • Kotifilosofi
    Kotifilosofi Жыл бұрын

    "It's a lot harder to convince people you're sane than to convince them you're crazy." *That was my constant mood thorough my teen years.*

  • Chanda Mubanga
    Chanda Mubanga6 ай бұрын

    It's 2022, and this is still one of the greatest Ted talks ever

  • salkar moki
    salkar moki Жыл бұрын

    Yes, we need more research on dimensional models of personality disorders. The categorical one has proven to be a little bit stiff and inflexible.

  • lo riddell
    lo riddell6 жыл бұрын

    "He's a grey area in a world that doesn't like grey areas." Never heard anything truer.

  • Zes

    Zes

    2 жыл бұрын

    wrg, no such thing as true or not

  • Big Sav

    Big Sav

    2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely

  • Padmé Amidala

    Padmé Amidala

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah lol its not like schools force "Be different! Normal is boring" down everybody's throats, grey and colorful mean the same things, really

  • Abigail

    Abigail

    2 жыл бұрын

    I read this comment at the same time he said it. 😂

  • themonkeydrunken

    themonkeydrunken

    2 жыл бұрын

    Truth is binary; it cannot be modified. /grammar

  • Jordan Garth
    Jordan Garth Жыл бұрын

    I've read the book as well as watching this and I must say it's super interesting. I also find it really makes you think about your own mentality and bias.

  • Ash Trash
    Ash Trash4 ай бұрын

    I love when somebody's qualifications to speak about a science are that they write things about stuff.

  • Kushagra Gupta
    Kushagra Gupta Жыл бұрын

    This man deserved a standing ovation.🙏👌

  • Lady Riot
    Lady Riot Жыл бұрын

    I think I would have met with Tony in a cafe for coffee. I believe Tony is right. According to many of the checklists all of us from time to time in different phases of our lives could check off more than a few on one or more checklists. Few of us fit into the psychopathic pool, but we often dip our toes in water.

  • Chris Mik's World
    Chris Mik's World2 жыл бұрын

    This guy Needs to do Audiobooks His Voice is so soothing I Love it

  • Mr Garrett

    Mr Garrett

    2 ай бұрын

    Good God No! I found it to be extremely irritating.

  • Mpls Maven

    Mpls Maven

    Жыл бұрын

    @handpaper LockPickingLawyer makes me creeped out because no lock is safe!

  • Damon Alagich

    Damon Alagich

    Жыл бұрын

    @Kishan P. sado masochists indeed

  • Aspen

    Aspen

    2 жыл бұрын

    He has a bunch of audio books in audible and you can find them in KZread

  • smoldeku_ shari
    smoldeku_ shari Жыл бұрын

    CONFESSION: I once believed that I was mentally ill since I was 7th till 9th grade. At school I would play like the most aloof and loner kid of all. I never expressed my personal thoughts or emotions, so people weren't mean to me due to the fact that I only say what they wanted to hear. When I got into arguments, I knew when to wash my hands off the blame and how to turn people's sympathy towards me. I took the advantage of "I was at the top students so therefore I can do no wrong" towards my teachers and classmates. I felt nothing other than bored after the other kid tried picking on me, even when he got called to the office for counselling....... Looking back at my ways, it was a bit horrifying.

  • Kitsune Fyora
    Kitsune Fyora Жыл бұрын

    If everyone acknowledged that everyone has at least 1 mental disorder or has a little crazy, we might be more accepting of each other.

  • Rob Manson
    Rob Manson Жыл бұрын

    I have a common disorder. It’s called mysphonia and it is a sensitity to sounds and means that the background noise in this talk tends to drown out the substance of the talk. Thank science for Subtitles

  • Blue Eyes White Dragon
    Blue Eyes White Dragon2 ай бұрын

    When l was in university, a couple of psychology courses were required for my major in sociology. Right off the bat l recognized my psychology professor as a nutbar... he used the book he published as the basis of the course, reading in a monotonous fashion from the podium. He was quite full of himself and l remember his name to this day, almost 48 years later. He taught me nothing. I interestingly l also noticed (from casual discussions) that a large percentage of the students in that class seemed to be interested in whether they themselves might be "crazy" to some extent, and used the information gleaned from that course to perform some sort of self analysis. My conclusion was that not only the professor, but many of the students who were attracted to the psychology department were probably mildly psychotic. Then those psychology majors would go out into the real world after graduation and diagnose people, often with life changing effects. Go figure!

  • Natasha Galt
    Natasha Galt3 жыл бұрын

    This is honestly my worst nightmare, not being able to prove I'm sane.

  • Man who is missing two toenails

    Man who is missing two toenails

    8 ай бұрын

    Gaslighting is easy and sucks.

  • zgoosekeeper

    zgoosekeeper

    3 жыл бұрын

    Only a sane person would worry about such a thing.

  • Emily Herbert

    Emily Herbert

    3 жыл бұрын

    What is sane??

  • PsyintZ

    PsyintZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    The fact that this bothers you pretty much confirms your sanity. The insane tend not to contemplate their own sanity.

  • a Bear

    a Bear

    3 жыл бұрын

    As long as I'm free I don't care lol. Bitched thinking I'm crazy; I'm just havin fun

  • VDrillo
    VDrillo3 ай бұрын

    when i was 12/13 i faked being suicidal to get into one of these “spa retreat” rehabs and when i got there i had to learn to constantly look happy and hide emotion it was pretty traumatic but looking back was just a couple years back

  • Word of a Rebel
    Word of a Rebel5 ай бұрын

    That was enlightening and thought provoking 💝

  • Lars Stenstrup Bruntse
    Lars Stenstrup Bruntse Жыл бұрын

    "He's a grey area in a world that doesent like grey areas". Amazing this man

  • Morgan J
    Morgan J Жыл бұрын

    This is so true it’s sad. I got sent to a mental hospital for a WEEK in that week they put me on 2 new meds I’ve never been on and tried to say I had a bunch of stuff wrong with me. They told me it was unnatural to cry bc I was in the hospital (against my will I should add) on my mother’s birthday and my best friends family’s funeral

  • Morgan J

    Morgan J

    Жыл бұрын

    Also the more you would ask to leave or try to convince them you weren’t crazy then they would literally tell you to your face the more you ask the longer they make you stay. So by the 4th day I just stopped crying and talking to the staff

  • Human
    Human2 жыл бұрын

    That hit pretty close. I Imagine a psychopath never cried themselves to sleep, that simplifies the test a bit.

  • The Game Gang

    The Game Gang

    2 ай бұрын

    This isn’t true, it’s possible for a psychopath to have had this experience.

  • Ender Warlord

    Ender Warlord

    3 ай бұрын

    In 17,5 years, once

  • Savannagh K. Chase

    Savannagh K. Chase

    4 ай бұрын

    @OfficalMcM no they have almost the full spectrum, including just enjoying things like music. Even love, just harder to get to that special place for them. It's more of an absence of empathy. That's about it. They get to live lives and enjoy the activities etc.

  • F1rst Aid Music

    F1rst Aid Music

    8 ай бұрын

    @JJ you have too much faith in us

  • Man who is missing two toenails

    Man who is missing two toenails

    8 ай бұрын

    @Human I did that all the time, I'd usually not get in trouble if I acted like I was remorseful.

  • Mohammed Rizwan
    Mohammed Rizwan6 ай бұрын

    This is a wonderful piece of storytelling!

  • writerbethd
    writerbethd2 ай бұрын

    "But the grey area is where you find the complexity. It's where you find the humanity, and it's where you find the truth." That's a beautiful quote, and I've felt that, believed that, my whole life. That quote, that realization, is a gem. "He's a gray area in a world that doesn't like gray areas." I also like that one because it too is very true.

  • Marvin Schumann
    Marvin Schumann Жыл бұрын

    Not just a speech, that was a piece of art!

  • Sarranid Sulfate
    Sarranid Sulfate Жыл бұрын

    i can really relate to a lot of this. through my teen years i wanted to escape from society. i had no clue that i was struggling physically and did not take my physical diagnosis seriously, because no doctor or nurse seemed to take it seriously either. i was given very little information on what i was going through. i thought that i was just plain lazy and useless, and procrastinated forever on everything. i had a friend online who was schizophrenic and romanticized it, and i thought i wanted to be schizophrenic too, to finally get the help i wanted, but didnt know i needed - though, not for that reason. i was already meeting psychiatrists weekly to talk about my ongoing depression and anxiety, but this time i tried to act more... crazy. and asked to be reviewed again. the people diagnosing me swallowed it all raw. although i did not come up with ideas from books or the likes, because i had never read horror before, i used my nightmares instead as a source of inspiration and did a bit of research online on the disorder, that worked very well. it is surprisingly easy to fake a mental illness to a professional. their job is mainly to detect it, not doubt it. and i dont think they realize how easy it is to fake with all the information available on the internet. after being diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, i was force medicated even though i did not want to be, but they made false claims that i was a threat to others. my mom recounted once, that when i started getting medicated, thats when i truly became crazy. i recall i had extreme anxiety and catastrophic thoughts, i would follow my mom around even if she was going to the toilet, and demanded to be able to see her at all the time. i feared for her life for no reason at all. i thought something or someone would harm her if i did not protect her. they believed this was my schizophrenia showing, and they started pressuring my parents into giving me up to be hospitalized in a locked facility, where they began medicating me really hard with doses that was not allowed outside of this facility, with no signs of improvement. i dont ever want to be medicated again. it was horrifying and made me so numb and unable to express any emotions at all. i stopped caring about myself and how i looked to others. you lose touch with yourself, and you get so many physical problems from this medication. and it was the one with least side effects. i experienced extremely blurred vision and was unable to read (they had to check so often if i turned blind because of it), my muscles became very rigid and i had a lot of spasms and twitching, i drooled a lot, choked on food even if i tried to take tiny bites, i developed a phobia for swallowing in the progress. i became mildly anorexic. and as mentioned, i started to genuinely act crazy, laughing for no reason, or make humming noises. just to feel something. they also started treating my weight loss with more medicine, which made me very aggressive and prone to lash out, mostly verbally. i tried really, really hard to contain this alienating anger. i never had such a bad temper before in my life. finally, my parents had enough when i frantically texted them for help and they intervened and demanded i was let out. i dont know what would have happened to me if they were not there to safe me. at home i was still medicated for a while, but i decided to stop using the medication on my own. at the time i was on medication, one of my favorite dogs had to be put down. when i was off the medication again, my bubble of emotions inside me burst out and i mourned for several months, crying constantly each day. i had not been able to cope with anything while medicated, and now it all spilled out in one violent and unstoppable stream i still struggle physically today. but, while i am still having this 'lazy' attitude to life from my lack of energy, fighting my own body every day, i am not impaired mentally. and that confuses the psychiatrists. after escaping from the locked department and being off medication again, my head became clear and focused. i tried to explain to them over and over that i am not paranoid schizophrenic, that it was all a mistake. i tried to explain to them that it was all made up, that i just wanted to get away from it all. every time i did that, they wrote in my journal that "patient has no self awareness of their illness". they explained to me that the reason i wanted to get away from society is because i am mentally ill. after each meeting, they would note down tiny, tiny details, that "patient is wearing the same clothes as last meeting", that "patient looks well groomed today" or "styled their hair", that "patient looks distant" or "patient has trouble speaking" or is "mostly silent". and just like tony's case, they would distort regular information i shared with them into something mental and twisted. i had to be very careful using sarcasm or irony. i have improved a lot over the last couple years after being medfree for longer, after having moved away from my parents, and just given time to reflect on myself and grow up, without being intervened on or told what to think. now the psychiatry leaves me alone. but it is still officially written in my papers that i am paranoid schizophrenic. i dont think i will ever get rid of that diagnosis, no matter how well i thrive. if they ever recognize it, they will likely contribute it to their earlier intervention, and say that the medication helped me recover, or whatever. they will not admit to being wrong. and so they have always created this image towards society that they can never make a mistake. we put too much trust in them that they will do the right thing, and we are left with no idea of what is going on behind the scenes. it can destroy people's lives, people who dont have guardians to make sure they are being treated right. i saw it myself while i was there. so many lost people whose days are all the same and it will never change. they dont cure people, they immobilize and drain them into husks, until they have no more energy to protest

  • Sarranid Sulfate

    Sarranid Sulfate

    Жыл бұрын

    @Cláudia no. this has something to do with child trauma. mental illnesses can push those that are already pushed over their limits to do terrible things out of pure spite to humanity, but a mental illness alone is not enough. self harm is the only danger that can occur in those cases, and only if the illness is severe enough, or again, something pushes them over the limit. like a bad environment, abusive parenting and neglect, etc. there will also be cases where parents cannot explain why their child became a serial killer for example, but there are also many cases where children dont confide in their parents about abuse that happened outside of their home and keep it a secret their entire life out of guilt and fear. that is enough to build up a disregard for humanity, too. mental illnesses alone do not drive you into a vengeful frenzy. i know this because i have been there myself, i have disregarded humanity many times, not because of a mental illness, but because of physical chronic illnesses and a controlling, neglecting parent who thought i was always lying about my well being, and an abusive, aggressive and sexualizing brother. i just never acted on it, because i was never pushed far enough. my childhood experiences could have been way worse. maybe if i had schizophrenia too, it would have happened. but i could also have had schizophrenia and a loving childhood, and the result would be the same. its all about how much is thrown at one individual, and how little is done about it afterwards. those things will leave permanent scars on the mind. medication, in this case, is not how you improve a person, its how you subdue them, and should never be treated as a long term solution. there are many other, much more caring ways to help a person cope with their mentality and improve who they are, and help them build up a new, healthy identity. something as simple as a tailored diet, exercise and memorable good experiences can completely eliminate a mental illness. the brain is always willing to adapt for the better, but it needs more chances and more time to do that while it recovers from past experiences. in any case you will find out that the one thing both mentally ill and childhood abused victims want, is just someone who is willing to listen

  • Cláudia

    Cláudia

    Жыл бұрын

    Shizophrenic are an huge danger if they do not take the meds. All that happened to you was your own fault. Your choices.

  • Garbageboy Stinkman
    Garbageboy Stinkman2 жыл бұрын

    About the bomb-sniffing bees: he wasn't wrong.

  • crazy clasher

    crazy clasher

    Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't that make you a psychopath

  • SimulatedUniverse

    SimulatedUniverse

    Жыл бұрын

    I was just reading where they have trained rats to sniff out land mines.

  • Jayne Stag

    Jayne Stag

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I saw a programme on it.😊

  • Patriot First

    Patriot First

    Жыл бұрын

    @taco trader underrated reply

  • oneoflokis
    oneoflokis6 ай бұрын

    Some psychiatrists I think are just busy finding something to say/do: and justifying their own state jobs by any means possible.. 😏 I agreed with what the book said about capitalism and corporate psychopaths. 🙂👍

  • a squishy jellyfish
    a squishy jellyfish Жыл бұрын

    If somehow, you can crack the faces they've hidden just by a feeling of discomfort or just by a gut feeling that this person is not what they seem, trust it with all your heart and up your guards to maximum. Calm, cool and collective is the key. The consequences of being manipulated by someone might just be the end of you, either psychologically and physically, it just truly just an horrific and traumatized experience, and it WILL get downward from the moment you knew you hooked.

  • efnissien
    efnissien Жыл бұрын

    I've several friends who have worked in psychiatric medicine... generally those with degrees in psychology only did them because they're too scared of the outcome if they visit a psychologist themselves! It also makes them feel better if they can criticize someone else's life and drag them down to their level! lol But on the idea of it being harder to get out of a hospital than it is to get in, one of the friends of mine told me about a television researcher that got themselves checked into a hospital to research for a drama. He checked in incognito, only 2 staff knew who he was (so that the staff would treat him like any other patient) he was only supposed to be there a couple of days. However, one of the staff that knew who he was, was taken ill while the other went on holiday. This left the researcher stuck in the hospital for a fortnight, he would turn up late for group therapy and say "sorry I'm late, I was on the 'phone to my producer" and the therapist would nod and say "yes...of course you were"!

  • Ta3iapxHs
    Ta3iapxHs Жыл бұрын

    So many truths and things we should think about in this video. Amazing job.

  • CSEmber
    CSEmber2 жыл бұрын

    I really like that one line "I was desperate to define him by his maddest edges."

  • Joy Warriors

    Joy Warriors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Beautifully written

  • kavishka Dharmasena

    kavishka Dharmasena

    2 жыл бұрын

    CSEmbe

  • Anoop Mysore

    Anoop Mysore

    2 жыл бұрын

    @PegC someday if we get to meet, mind showing me all of your recordings?

  • Amunet xo

    Amunet xo

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know this is a controversial subject right now, but that kind of reminds me of what Shane Dawson did in his Jake Paul series

  • PegC

    PegC

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is an awesome line!! Thank you for pointing it out! I’m writing it down. :)

  • Helen
    Helen Жыл бұрын

    I find it fascinating the amount of dubiosity he conveys when talking about these conditions. I’m not sure it’s overly helpful in the overall conversation surrounding mental health.

  • kelli blue
    kelli blue Жыл бұрын

    We ALL have some type of neuroses or something. I think that makes us all normal. However psychopathology is definitely a very different level. What he said about CEOs/business leaders (and I believe, many politicians) being psychopathic is spot on. I've worked with some.

  • J Bach
    J Bach Жыл бұрын

    Wow. That was one of the greatest TED talks I've ever seen.

  • Deborah Duthie
    Deborah Duthie Жыл бұрын

    Having this side of Psychological Assessments made more ambiguous, was an eye-opener to the slips that a single mind assessing makes, whether they want or mean to or not, assessments do take many examinations to find the ‘mean’ of what it means to be and cope in this world.

  • Manafactariq
    Manafactariq4 жыл бұрын

    This, honestly would make a great film ..., the screenplay would have to be very well written but if it Is, it could be one of the best psychological thrillers

  • NatoStorm

    NatoStorm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Emily Tybeck they're not glorifying mental illnesses, they're pointing out that sometime psychology is wrong, and people who don't have these mental conditions are being diagnosed with them anyways because what is "different" and not normal sometimes gets too specific, and these tests don't look for the normality or lack of it, or even the cause of these conditions, they simply look for the "different", and then proceed to label these differences as something that needs to be fixed, usually with drugs; what I'm saying is, in a world of 7 billion people, you are going to have things that not every person on this planet has; it doesn't mean that these small deviations are mental illnesses that need to be treated; not everyone is the same, and that's what makes us human. yes there are horrible mental conditions that we should try to fix, and yes sometimes there are things different from the norm that aren't exactly good, but too often things that are normal get labeled as "different" or "dangerous" or "needs fixing". I go more in depth in a reply above to Sven Jensen, you should go read it

  • Manafactariq

    Manafactariq

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Mydevineselfive realized that this is prolly the most popular ill ever be in life

  • Mydevineself

    Mydevineself

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shutter island

  • Daryl Jordan

    Daryl Jordan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Manafactariq shutter island ;)

  • brwi1

    brwi1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Joyce A and “men who stare at goats”

  • Malachi Hormel
    Malachi Hormel Жыл бұрын

    I hit every box on the checklist, the less than savory ones included. I'm even enough of a narcissist that I would be kind of proud to be labeled a psychopath. Problem is, I don't think I'd get any of the prestige of being a psychopath without actually murdering someone. If I don't murder, then people would probably just assume I'm trying to be edgy. If I do murder, then I'd still have to get caught as proof, and that involves jail time. Even if I murder someone, get caught, and serve my time, then I'd still be considered one of the dumb psychopaths for actually getting caught. It's borderline prejudice at this point.

  • Ananamu
    Ananamu Жыл бұрын

    I haven't enjoyed something as good as this for a long time....hilarious !.....and added....very very insightful ...mastery of a topic ...impressive

  • Fox D
    Fox D2 жыл бұрын

    As a survivor of the Massachusetts adolescent mental health system in the 1990s (and the myriad human rights abuses that came with it), this hit hard.

  • coconut shells
    coconut shells Жыл бұрын

    It's frightening how an individual (psychiatrist) can subjectively decide the fate of another based on what they think is "normal". Who's checking to make sure the psychiatrists aren't psychopaths? 🙄

  • robbysoaks
    robbysoaks Жыл бұрын

    I've long viewed the DSM manual with a grain of salt. That's not to say that I think it is nonsense or useless. Rather, I believe it should be used more as a *guide* to indicate that someone veers in this or that direction on a *continuum*. I don't believe that many people can be lumped strictly into one category or another, just as Jon Ronson suggests here. Of course, there are some pretty clear-cut cases -- someone like Jodi Arias who stabbed her ex-boyfriend 27 times and shot him afterwards, simply because he rejected her for another woman, plainly skews very far towards full-blown 'psychopath' in my view. I would not hesitate to label her a psychopath, especially given all the interrogation and court footage I've seen. However, I've met several people who have been diagnosed with mental disorders and assigned the corresponding labels and it's not uncommon I'm left unconvinced. 'Normal' and 'abnormal' are such subjective terms and indeed differ between societies, cultures, philosophies and religious beliefs.

  • Wandi Doang
    Wandi Doang6 ай бұрын

    in 2016 I was admitted to a mental hospital and the doctor said that if I had an emotional disorder and depression, what I felt was that I couldn't be angry, I never cried in front of anyone except in front of my parents, and the most unique thing about me fast in memorization, am I a psychopath, psychiatrists admire me because I can recover very quickly

  • jjimy woods
    jjimy woods Жыл бұрын

    Always enjoyed that Jon Ronson guy since his book 'Them' .. He's acceptance of human idiosyncrasies and delves deep into the sole of moranic media headlines .

  • StereotypedMe
    StereotypedMe Жыл бұрын

    This is one of the best TED talks ever!

  • Yuno
    Yuno5 жыл бұрын

    If anyone's wondering why there's so many gray zones between mental disorders and mental health/sanity: Mental disorders are defined as overly-strong reactions to situations. A 'normal' person would react to an awkward situation with discomfort, while someone with anxiety or panic disorder might fall into a panic attack. Both react strongly to the same situation but one of them acts in a very unhealthy way. You declare behaviour a mental disorder when it becomes a nuisance or risk to the person in question or the people around them, to the point where their day-to-day life is disrupted or they're putting themselves or others in danger. That's also why he could identify with so many things in the book in the beginning! And that's why everyone's a little psychopathic. Everyone gets in the same situations, but some people react so strongly that it actively influences and hinders their life. (I missed that in the presentation so I'm just gonna throw this out there)

  • Holly

    Holly

    4 жыл бұрын

    Confusedgerman …

  • Elephant

    Elephant

    5 жыл бұрын

    If anyone's wondering, the word psychopathy comes from the Greek words Psyche, (Pseehee [emphasize on the last e] )which means soul and Pathos, which means passion but also patheia which means that something happens to you for a lack of English words.

  • Briana Pearson

    Briana Pearson

    5 жыл бұрын

    From a professor in my MFT program who specialized in abnormal psych: "We all have psychoses. It is only considered a disorder if it interferes with your life."

  • jeoux chmeoux

    jeoux chmeoux

    5 жыл бұрын

    @cellogirl11RW You're correct however the amazing thing about the brain is how changeable it is. The one thing health professionals don't seem to take into consideration is that the human brain is extremely plastic. They used to say that the brain is only plastic when young and when you reach 25, you're pretty much who you're going to be for the rest of your life. The brain is capable of healing and changing its behavioral patterns simply through positive association and negative association (Behavioral Conditioning).

  • Lilly :

    Lilly :

    5 жыл бұрын

    Confusedgerman Exactly what I was going to comment actually. So many times have I seen normally anxious people say they have a anxiety disorder because without the prefix of extreme or enough to cause harm and disrupt daily lose the description fits most people who scare easy