Nice explanation of stove options. I went a bit mad on bug in and bug out options after Nord Stream 2 was blown up and blackouts in the EU were expected last winter. An unusually warm winter saved us. Couple of things. Methylated spirits for my Trangia cook kit have an unlimited shelf life. I bought a 20 liter container. Well sealed and robust. Put away safely and left unopened. I bought a small bottle for practicing. One thing I did get was a Primus multifuel stove, it will run on any liquid including gasoline or diesel with the included interchangeable nozzles or gas cartridges. Very robust, comes in a sturdy bag and a comprehensive repair kit is £20.00 extra. Very pricey, but the old steel models can be found for £100. Good point on the noise, the Primus is ridiculously loud unless you buy a pricey3rd party simmer ring attachment. The Pocket Rocket is loud but there are models with a broader flame jet base that are quieter. Some of these type of gas stoves don’t have a simmer control! I found the large 500ml gas cartridges for half the prices of the Camping brands with exactly the same propane/isopropane fuel mix for half the price in the tools sections of a large DIY outlet. They were still available at the normal price of €5.00 when the Camping brand cartridges were all snapped up after tripling in price last winter. The shelf life of these cartridges is very long, while digging through my camping stuff I found an old half full cartridge with the price sticker in Spanish pesetas not Euros so at least 20:years old. Some rust on the threads of the valve so I have greased my new ones. Works fine but lives outside on the balcony due to it’s advanced age. I would take the gas cartridges stove for a GHB, easy, light and convenient and the Primus Multifuel for anything over 72 hours (Post SHTF WROL) with a siphon hose to scavenge gas/diesel from vehicles. Good point on the noise though the Trangia would be very quiet. The Trangia fuel bottle is very light and you can easily refuel a hot stove with it. Kelly Kettle cook systems are interesting, been around for ages in the US. I might try that if I was relying on wood for fuel. Again thanks for the review, didn’t think about the noise, guess I have to buy that quiet simmer attachment ring for the Primus. 😊

@p2snetwork

7 ай бұрын

As always thanks for watching. Never really thought about the Primus. Will have to have a looksie. I have a gallon of meths for jic. When burnt it produces virtually zero CO so say to use indoors or in confined areas. Enjoy your weekend. 👍

Excellent, comprehensive review of stove options. As a backpacker, rather than a prepper, I'll probably give more attention to weight, but for trips of up to a week my set up of choice is alcohol (bioethanol), inside a stormin norman cone, which is very similar to your Caldera cone, but is designed to come as two pieces (and fits inside a 700ml pot). For a trip of over a week cannister gas becomes the lighter option overall. My choice being a remote cannister stove, with the burner sitting on the ground rather than on top of the cannister. I find this setup more stable and easier to shield from wind.

@p2snetwork

2 ай бұрын

Weights a real issue for everyone really unless you're car camping. Thanks for your input, and for watching. It's appreciated 👍

Brilliant range of stoves and excellent explanations. I have the pocket stove from Backpacking Light and think it is excellent with my Trangia burner. For my bug out/get home I prefer the Esbit Mini folding solid fuel stove twinned with a 400ml stainless pot from Decathlon and instead of hexamine tabs I use Half a BCB Fire Dragon - what's not used goes in a zip lock bag. Tin foil for a lid. I also have a wind shield made from the base of a meat tray that slips into the water bladder pocket of the pack. The obvious reason for choosing FireDragon is simply it's ease of use when it comes to lighting (especially in adverse conditions) and if I have to heat water for a dehydrated meal then 400ml will do that easily. I completely agree with you about the need for a fire - dig a hole and have one if it is a must.

@p2snetwork

7 ай бұрын

Thank you, the Pocket Stoves a great bit of kit and the Fire Dragons underrated. Sounds like you're well sorted. Cheers for watching and enjoy your weekend 👍

Interesting look at the different options. We have gas stove in our cars which is usually just for a cuppa when out and about, but obviously can be emergency kit if you’re stuck and still with the vehicle. Then in my opinion, the folding BCB stove is the best option for the GHB. To be fair, I generally just carry hexi blocks but I agree the fire dragon pods are a better idea. Atb mate 👍

@p2snetwork

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching , it's appreciated. Take care 👍

Excellent options. In my car, I have a plastic bin with camping equipment that includes a 2 burner stove. If I am able to stay with my car, I would use that until my fuel ran out. For my GHB, I have a few of fuel cubes, an alcohol burner (trangia), and the little crown like holder, and the stove that is smaller than your honey stove. With that stove I have three options for fuel: twigs, alcohol burner, and the fuel cubes. I have a nesting titanium backpacking cookware. Foe my BOB I have all of these options plus extra fuel (alcohol and fuel cubes).

@p2snetwork

7 ай бұрын

You're definitely well prepared 👍 thank you for watching.

I routinely carry two "stoves" in my bug out/get home bags... the BCB folding firedragon, and the US GI canteen cup heater. I do have a copy of the Bundeswehr three piece kit thats quite good for camping. Enjoyed your video!

@p2snetwork

7 ай бұрын

To be fair the US GI Canteen cup stove is so light and nests that's not a bad idea. Thanks for watching and enjoy your weekend. 👍

For those using a gas setup and want to learn more about the effects of pan size (diameter), flame level, the benefit or not of using a lid, wind effect and the benefit of heat exchanger pots, the current 'Gold Standard' is the series of videos by GearSkeptic. Well worth a watch !

@p2snetwork

2 ай бұрын

Thank you. I'll have a look

My homemade little dandy is ideal you can use solid fuel, wood or alchohol it packs down into a pouch made from a breast pocket from a shirt. If you're handy with a few basic tools they aren't hard to make. Plans available online. For more long term or greater numbers or when traveling in vehicles a kelly kettle is a good option. Mine has done great service over the years from camping and picnics to blackouts due to storms .Stood in our open fireplace in the house.

@p2snetwork

7 ай бұрын

Not heard of that one before. I'll have to investigate. Always fancied a Ghillie Stove, cheers for watching, enjoy your weekend.

For get home I have a really small fire dragon stove carries on gel tab inside, weighs nothing and costs a pound or two. Only recently discovered them, works well with a mug

@p2snetwork

7 ай бұрын

Great choice for GHB. Thanks for watching 👍

1. Gas stove (Light and go, higher BTUs). 2. Alcohol stove. (Lower BTUs but easier fuel to get and make your own stove for free) 3 Tablet stove.(Very low BTUs but compact fuel, worst of the 3). All three can be used indoors with care, important as most of us live in urban areas. 4. Would be wood stove, but you then have to hunt down wood for your fuel, not ideal in bad weather. If solid tablet stove, then plan to carry twice as many tabs as you plan to use, regardless of brand, they are not very good. Use windscreens, and in cold weather make a V out of coat hanger and put between your alcohol and pot to life off the cold pot from the burner.

@p2snetwork

7 ай бұрын

And try and keep your alcohol fuel close to your body. Works much better in cold climates when kept warm. Thanks for watching 👍

I see that you too have the affliction of buying stoves and cook kits 😂. My stuff is geared more towards camping and hiking needs, which can double for emergencies. Any Trangia or military surplus stuff is good in my book. Very thorough video with the pro’s and con’s, thank you.

@p2snetwork

6 ай бұрын

I keep telling the good lady that I can never have too many stoves. Or rucksacks...

@michaelnasser8697

6 ай бұрын

@@p2snetwork Agreed! The wife told me I can’t get anymore bags, I have a problem she said 😂😂😂

@p2snetwork

6 ай бұрын

@@michaelnasser8697 the only problem I have is finding somewhere to hide them 🤣

@michaelnasser8697

6 ай бұрын

@@p2snetwork 😂😂

The bcb crusader mk2 stove is fantastic ( used with the mk1 bcb crusader canteen cup ) The mk2 stove fits the trangia burner ,or the fire dragon gel , or twigs , or monkey stove , or penny stove , or hexamine , ... Being anodised aluminium with many vent holes it does not melt when used with hot burning hard woods .... Not many of us get excited by stoves but sadly I'm one...lol 😂

@p2snetwork

3 ай бұрын

That's an interesting combination. Does it still nest with the MK1 mug and Osprey (58 pattern) bottle?

@davidjacobs828

3 ай бұрын

@@p2snetwork Yes , but it's then taller than the mk 1 cook set and requires the mk2 pouch as the mk 1 pouch won't fasten if the mk 2 stove is in it . But it's a far superior kit with the mk 2 stove . The mk 2 canteen cup is aluminium which is shite compared to the legendary stainless mk1 canteen cup. Thanks for taking the time to reply. 🙂👍

@p2snetwork

3 ай бұрын

@@davidjacobs828 thanks for letting me know. Have a good un

I favour the m71 swiss gel stove and can carry a bottle of firedragon gel. Fairly light and lasts ages tbf

@p2snetwork

7 ай бұрын

Not seen the Swiss Gel stove in ages. Used to be a few quid a pop. They're OK but I found them to struggle when there was snow on the ground. Much the same as Chaffing Gel. Cheers for watching, enjoy your day. 👍

@batzpfsaddict2806

7 ай бұрын

@p2snetwork not tried it in the snow tbh but firedragon gel is ok when wet. Need to think of better options for the family situation though

@p2snetwork

7 ай бұрын

@@batzpfsaddict2806 for the family it has to be gas really. Otherwise you'll be there all day. The pocket rocket clones in Amazon are very cheap.

Thanks for sharing, I've not seen those Honey stoves before I'll have a look. Like you I tend to go with a trangia pot (carry 2 so can do a quick swap for longer cooks or for fancier scrans when sharing) and either the small sit on stand for small pots or a triangular one for sitting bigger pots like a Zebra or frying pan. I'm a bit of a kit tart so have lots of options from hexy through to gas and a cracking Coleman dual fuel a mate gifted me (a few fell into his bag when he was leaving the army 😉) and I've enjoyed playing with them all. Keep going back to the simple trangia pot set up, as you say, they take longer than gas but they're a simple system that's hard to kill. I've not tried the Fire Dragon stuff yet, I need to give it a test run compared to Hexy, what's your preference between the two mate.

@p2snetwork

4 ай бұрын

I have some hexi which is just as well as it's now illegal to buy in the UK 🤣🤣🤣 Hexi works but smells and has to have a ventilated area. Fire dragon can be used inside if you are careful. Very little C0 as it's alcohol based. Less soot than hexi, if your only boiling 250ml of water and your cup isn't cast iron and two inches thick you can get away with half a cube. I don't mind it. I have a stove and fuel in the car for brews. I've noticed the price of the stoves have risen. I was paying 3 quid a pop, now they're a fiver plus. But alcohol being it trangia or a monkey boy stove are my go to's.

@deeps2761

4 ай бұрын

Cheers, I've got a small amount of the real hexy and some fake stuff that doesn't last as long. Didn't realise it was illegal now but it shouldn't surprise me, there's probably some iffy stuff in it. I really should get with the new century and try those gel blocks although I don't carry an emergency hexy up the hills any more. I tend to stick with the trangia pots and keep a small second bottle of meths separate in case I lose/break my primary one.

oh boy I like my stoves, and i prefer alcohol stoves, I've thought about this a bit, for 1 or 2 people I go for the small twig stove, can use twigs alcohol burner or solid fuel. i find the bcb is limiting, an esbit with a puck burner gives the option to use the gel in the lid as well, I've tried using twigs in the esbit, which isn't that good. what pots would you use to accompany the stoves, and are you only looking at mre packets?

@p2snetwork

5 ай бұрын

For 99% of the time I'm only boiling water to heat rat packs or for use with dehydrated meals. If it's just me then usually a MK1 Crusader cup or the US canteen cup. For a "bug out" situation I'd carry the Honey Stove, this lets me use alcohol burners, hexi/esbit or gel and if course twigs, pine cones etc. Id then be using a 1.1 litre titanium pot so I can heat up two rat packs at a time. I really don't do proper cooking if I can help it haha. Thank you for watching, enjoy your day 👍