Storing mercury without water
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This is an update to my video about distilling mercury! I explore different ways to store mercury, including one without water.
Link to distillation video: • Distilling Mercury Metal
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I find that a steel vessel and some teflon tape does the job adequately enough. ;) The actual DOT approved mercury flask, the green ones in my videos that are rated for 60 mph crash and brief fire exposure, are a bit expensive though... I'm considering taking an old fire extinguisher and seeing if I can re-purpose that for all the mercury I don't have proper flasks for.
@ravien6142
3 жыл бұрын
hi
@ariatcg
3 жыл бұрын
@@ravien6142 hi
@jhyland87
2 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea...
@apimpformallyknownasslickb65
2 жыл бұрын
Cody's Lab is the best! I switch between Cody's lab, Thoughty2, and NileRed. My top 3 at the moment
I sacrificed safety for beauty. -NileRed 2k17
@anqied
6 жыл бұрын
Famous last words.
@elevenfortythree4769
2 жыл бұрын
His priorities are on point
As a chemist, it's great to see this sort of video on KZread, thanks for what you do
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
thanks!
NileRed: I think it will be mostly fine as long as I don’t throw it across the room… Me: *having flashbacks of NileRed throwing beakers across the room*
You should make a video or go through the process of how you dispose of all your waste products. Mercury, Acids, various salts, etc. Thank you!
@shawnsustrich7981
6 жыл бұрын
Who's that guy taofladormouse or what ever. He seemed to play fast and loose with mercury, I'd like to see NileRed show the proper care it deserves
@meepk633
6 жыл бұрын
Wait. Does he just throw his waste away? Does he spill and not recover? Seems like those accusations are serious and deserve evidence, if you're making them.
@gorepuppy
6 жыл бұрын
If you have free elemental mercury spilled. Suck it up with an eyedropper and keep it for reuse. if you cannot get to it all in a spil, like you spill it on the ground use a bit of zinc powder, this will form an alloy with any mercury left and this is much less toxic to the environment. If you want then you can collect the alloy and contaminated dirt as much as possible and store it until you can turn it in the the proper disposal centers , your local recycle center may take it but if not, a hazardous material disposal center would be the place. Many states in the US (not all of them)are lax on some toxic chemicals as long as they are small household quantities. But even then would normally convert dangerous chemicals to less dangerous ones if I need to toss it. Keep in mind folks throw out tons of CFLs each with a drop of mercury inside, lead items, cadmium contaminated items, you name the toxic element, I bet we have folks throwing it away in a dumpster. However I feel chemists that know a bit better would at least try to the best of their ability to avoid introducing a dangerous substance to the environment.
Mercury waster container = Neighbor's pool
@dirtydan9785
3 жыл бұрын
Micheal no-
@HandFromCoffin
3 жыл бұрын
The bowl of water you leave out for your neighbors cats.
@natetv1494
3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@DeezNuts-
3 жыл бұрын
Nooooooooooooooooooo
@turgidbanana
3 жыл бұрын
Why would you do that?
If in long term storage underwater contaminates come out of the mercury and dirty the water isn't that a good argument to storage underwater? Seems like it's cleaning it more.
@BuckFieri
7 жыл бұрын
I was kind of wondering the same. It seems like a long term rinsing, and is just as efficient at preventing vapors as without the water.
@greenthizzle4
6 жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% certain about this, but I'm pretty sure the dirt in the water is mercury oxides being formed from the water basically rusting it if you know what I mean. Not 100% on that though
@LiborTinka
5 жыл бұрын
@@greenthizzle4Could be the case, but Mercury(II) oxide, or HgO has very minute solubility in water, something like 5 mg / 100 mL of water - maybe it is still enough to make it murky.
....and then there's Cody's Lab.
@LiborTinka
5 жыл бұрын
NileRed: impact resistant double container, sorbent, protective coating etc. Cody: steel drum on a backyard
Next video should be posted Tuesday
@jelletje8
7 жыл бұрын
ow boi
@sethkrolnik1315
7 жыл бұрын
NileRed what hot plate stirrer do you use
@808ghurricane6
7 жыл бұрын
can you make FURAN?
@TomsLab
7 жыл бұрын
Seth Krolnik I think Nile uses a Corning PC-351
@josealbertoaldanaosma7156
7 жыл бұрын
NileRed Are you going to make a video when KZread give you a play button?
i like these videos. you and cody'slab is inspiration at its best!
Since you are experienced at 3D printing model editing, you could add some ring harness on top of the bottle that will make it not rattle around, but can easily be pulled of in case you need the aesthetics
@ElTurbinado
2 жыл бұрын
easier to just cut a circle out of a piece of cardboard box, or whatever.
Congrats on 100,000 subscribers Nile. Great videos!
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@adityamathur6938
3 жыл бұрын
@@NileRed yo congrats on 2600 thousand subs
Thank you for your video's. I'm a retired guy and I can recall my grandfather, a gold miner, telling me how they would use a deer hide chamey to extract water and debre from their mercury. It was important to put the hide side out, put the dirty HG into the meat side and squeeze it threw. I would be interested in your thought on this, Bill in B.C. Canada
Another excellent video! :3
How thoughtful of you.
Wow, already 100k subscribers! Congratulations, last time I looked through my subscribers you still had 40k, that wasn't to long ago.
@watermelonjaz2137
3 жыл бұрын
Now the mans at 1.8 million 🙌
I remember in my school we were just handed a glass bottle with mercury. No shatter proof, no twice packed. It was just passed around to demonstrate its density with the bottle being almost to heavy to lift with one hand. Looking back at this I feel like that was maybe a bit unsafe. I mean we were kids, anyone could have dropped it as no one expected the weight of it.
You could glue some silicone rubber on the inside of the plastic container, so it's shock-proof and remains safe. As always nice video it's nice to have a little lab time like this.
The paper towel being repelled by the mercury just blew my mind! Holy crap 😮
Nile Reeeeed!!! love the vids when u gonna get coats and beakers man. ps would love to see some more synthisis of reactive compounds
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
I will get the beakers in a week or so. Then Ill have to figure out the whole sales part. The coats are at least a few months out. I havent started on them yet...I am bad
@sethkrolnik1315
7 жыл бұрын
NileRed got a ballpark figure for the beakers?
I think storing the Hg under H2O is a good idea for several reasons. One, if you find your water getting cloudy after several months, you are simply cleaning it better without any effort. Second, and as you stated in your other video, this will help depress the mercury vapor in your bottle (and even long term, as the number of molecular collisions in water would be substantially higher than in air suppressing vapor buildup). Either way, great set of videos!
@Metal_Master_YT
11 ай бұрын
great thought, but in practice, water is still not that useful. #1 if your mercury is so dirty that plain water is able to passively get impurities out, then you DEFINITELY need to inspect your mercury and container and CLEAN them, that _shouldn't_ happen, even relatively pure mercury doesn't tarnish, and shouldn't put that much junk into the water. #2 um, no? idk why you are still using the advice from his _previous_ video, when he addressed the _issue_ with that advice in _this_ video, specifically why it doesn't matter if there was water for long term storage. water only slows the process, as long as its left for long enough, the bottle will come up to the saturated vapor concentration anyways. for short term storage water can be helpful because it effectively reduces vapor, but for long term, the water isn't a perfect block, and the vapor pressure will still build up until it reaches the standard concentration for mercury at room temp. #3 you are constantly making a dangerous contaminated liquid side-product that can potentially be spilled and must be disposed of properly, which of course is not ideal. #4 the amount of vapor you are trying to prevent is also pretty insignificant, just walk outside, open the container, let out the vapor in the breeze, then return inside. alternatively dont use such an oversized container, if the container is full of mercury, there is no room for vapor. #5 you can store the mercury in a chemistry fridge (which he has) and it wont evaporate nearly as much.
Just what I needed right now - a new NileRed video! (me brain is tired)
this seems so unsafe!!! I love it
Ok but when you put the paper towel in the mercury it blew my mind for some reason.
That was very interesting.
Almost impeccable, good work. I'd just add rubber on the support ring. You were rightly scared about it. :)
I've been working for a while now with thermochromic pigments, I was wondering if there was an easy way to synthesize them.
For a bit of added safety maybe packing the back half of the container and maybe even be able to use a packing material that makes the mercury stand out.
Could you use molecular sieves to dry the mercury?
You could add Vigreux column to help increase purity.
It would be neat to see you make a basic plastic. Because you made potato starch before which can be used in such a thing, or i'm sure you have many other options as well. But regardless would be an interesting video to see.
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
I will do that eventually (with the starch). I will also make nylon and some other plastics.
How do you clean your Hg contaminated beakers? Do you keep them specifically for mercury or do you clean them and use them for other reactions?
I don't remember how I found this channel and I know absolutely NOTHING about chemistry I was absolute abysmal at it in school but I've managed to eat through all your videos in like 2 days and I can't get enough. You might aswell be talking Martian but it still fascinates me and helps me sleep... not meant in an offensive way :)
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
I am glad you like them! :)
@imogenruthburnett3867
7 жыл бұрын
NileRed I love them! I'm addicted
It feels like in a number of videos he essentially says "I should probably do X, but I don't wanna".
After my grandma died we found that she had a 600 ml bottle of mercury in her basement. Glass bottle, stored inside a cardboard tube with packing peanuts. She was a scientist, so she had a lot of weird stuff, like some natural asbestos, but that 8 kg bottle of mercury was probably the weirdest/most dangerous. Pretty awesome though.
@Cadwaladr
7 жыл бұрын
BTW she died in 96, but probably had that bottle since about 1948, so I think it keeps pretty well.
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
What did you do with the mercury?
@Cadwaladr
7 жыл бұрын
NileRed My dad just took it to a hazardous waste disposal place. I'd have kept it, but I was only 16 then so I didn't get a say.
What contaminants are left and how do you get rid of them?
If you answer, I swear to like all your vids
How about a polystyrene foam ring around the top or neck of the bottle as a spacer between it and your plastic secondary? It won't obstruct the view, and it'll provide some stability.
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
even with all that was a good idea as well and will probably pretty much eliminate any Fusion of mercury vapor from your bottle. that said the water wasn't really a bad idea. Yes the gas the top eventually come to equilibrium, but if your goal is to minimize the fusion of the bottle the rate at which it approaches equilibrium matters because the Mercury escaping from the bottle lowers the equilibrium value. The final equilibrium is a function of the rate at which Mercury is making it to the gas phase against the rate at which Mercury is escaping the bottle. the water would lower the rate at which Mercury is making it to the gas phase. Probably buy a lot comma since there are no common intermolecular forces between Mercury atoms and water molecules while both water and Mercury have strong cohesive forces hydrogen bonding and metallic bonding respectively. I would expect the partition coefficient to be very big. still it was interesting watching you dry out the Mercury. and I appreciate the caution with which she treated it no you didn't talk at all about the ventilation you were using. do you know what the regulations are concerning the disposal of Cinnabar, and does mercury sulfide count as Cinnabar?
How about using silica gel or table salt in a side container to dry out the mercury?
I believe that gold dissolves in mercury. Can you do an experiment to dissolve gold in mercury first, and then recover the gold by distill mercury out? Thank you.
What would be the procedure of you dropped the bottle and it shattered?
Would it be a useful idea to fill the bottle with xenon, or sulphur hexafluoride?
Is sulfur better than Iron Chloride? What are the advantages? Also I think that water doesn't stops mercury vapors...
Excellent video! A minor correction: steel is definitely NOT a good container for mercury or mercury salts. A plastic bottle is the recommended storage for mercury.
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
A lot of places actually recommended steel. I agree though, plastic is the best.
You could always save some of the packaging foam sheets from randomly purchased items and the next time you are designing a containment system, take vessel 1 and trace a circle in the foam with said vessel, then take vessel 2 and do the same over the top of the first circle. Do this twice, now you have nice little dampening rings. While typing this out i began to consider the complications of unknown composition of the foam material being used in combination with a unspecified sample. I also considered how this comment is quite inarticulate and messy. Good. Moist, you should have said your mercury was slightly moist.
My dog is relieved to hear that you didn't use any KITTY LITTER, a substance beloved only by villains.
there was a bubble on mercury 2:23 .does mercury form bubbles?i thought it'd be too heavy to support itself
@lajoswinkler
7 жыл бұрын
Nice observation. I've observed bubbles in mercury and I think it's because of the minute surface contamination. There's always some lipids on its surface.
Note to myself never get any Mercury compound for my home lab... All those dangers that have to be care it's too much for a lazy ass as me, btw I love your videos and also I wanted to ask you what do you do with the Mercury wastes (even the water disposed that contained Mercury)? Thank you and keep going with the great job
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
I have them all in 2 4L containers. Ill clean them up in an upcoming video.
100k boiii
Hey, can I ask you where you got your mercury? I have maybe 1 lb but it was expensive. Trying to find a cheaper source.
@kelvinyonger8885
4 жыл бұрын
I know Cody distilled his from some ore, idk about nilered.
I think you can use the solution of ferric chloride to absorb mercury vapor.
where do you buy mercury in Canada?
Do they have superfund sites in Canada?
Do you just sometimes walk by the mercury and shake it because you can?
Cool vids man, Can you make an LSD synthesis video 👌
Wouldn't the water pulling out the impurities be a pro to storing it with the mercury? Murky water on top would suggest that the impurities have somewhere to go, and that they're no longer contaminating the mercury. Right?
Hey NileRed, I really like your videos. But I have got one question for you: Is it possible to get 100% clean mercury ?
@icantellyouhadenoughytfort8539
6 жыл бұрын
Nope.
3:40 can you sulferic acid dry mercury?
@nullnull5268
7 жыл бұрын
it's much harder to get rid of the acid
What do you thing is more hazard uranium or fluorine gas
Damn! how big is that sep funnel? Nice upgrade.
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
It is 1L. Ive had it for a while
@joeya5438
7 жыл бұрын
NileRed oh nice, never seen it before.
it was placed in the plastic bag, in the sulfur, snapped shut, then sealed in two yards of concrete. your mercury is now safe.
May I suggest storing your mercury with radon gas? I know this is a bit late, but to prevent rust and such it might be a good idea!
@luisp.3788
4 жыл бұрын
what did you smoke
@vivimannequin
4 жыл бұрын
Radon is radioactive though and won't exist as long as you want it to
@luisp.3788
4 жыл бұрын
@@vivimannequin look up "joke" in the dictionary
@ThePeterDislikeShow
Жыл бұрын
Problem is the decay daughters of radon might alloy with and contaminate the mercury.
Shouldn't you purge the bottle with nitrogen or argon?
eh sir i wanna request hehe at here chili price 8-9$/Kg i just thinking about can you extract Capsaicin | C18H27NO3 from chili?
Meanwhile Codyslab is literally plunging his hands into mercury and flushing it down toilets.
@joshbrz8902
7 жыл бұрын
Zapleek good for him go watch his vids then wtf?
can you please teach us how to make chlorosulfonic acid with pure sulfur, oxygen, and hydrochloric acid?
Hi NileRed, just curious what do you do for your day job?
@vapenation7061
7 жыл бұрын
I think he's doing KZread full-time
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
As the guy below said. I am making videos full-time now
How do you dispose of your hazardous waste? There are usually places to take stuff like used motor oil and paint, but I doubt they'd be willing to take a bunch of mercury contaminated water.
@xenonram
7 жыл бұрын
chejrw Google "laboratory waste disposal services" There is a number of them, and they'll take care of it.
Hi NileRed! I love your videos, they are very professional when compared to other "chem labs" videos from other youtube channels. The way you show it and tips are very detailed. My suggestion is to try something in organic chemistry, like a friedel crafts synthesis. Why dont you use the benzene extracted previously and add an ethyl group using friedel fracts just to show the reaction? Thanks mate!!
I find it hard to believe that the water or paper towel would be that "contaminated" mercury is not a wetting agent and due to its density and nature to clump together I would be skeptical of the amount of contamination that occurred. Would think it very interesting to know the amount of contamination found in that water or towel if you sent it off to a lab to be assayed...my guess would be you recovered 99.99% of your mercury.
Would you date or label this mercury for long term storage?
That 'plastic' container kinda looks like polycarbonate. I suspect that the glass bottle may have more impact resistance.
Unrelated but, how much mineral oil would I need to store 84 grams of sodium?
If you filled the bottle up to the cap with water, there would be no mercury vapour pressure, wouldn't it?
is it illegal to store mercury?
When are you going to reprocess transuranic waste?
I have about 6kg of mercury that was given to me years ago by a company that serviced sphygmomanometers. It was contaminated with glass and oil, and I cleaned it up for my uses. I store the mercury in a reagent jar with a greased ground glass stopper. No water is held over the mercury. This bottle is in turn stored inside a 5 gallon pail, with foam holding the glass bottle securely within the secondary container. The pail has a tight fitting lid and is marked with a poison warning along with a description of the contents. Since I live in an earthquake zone, I store this pail in the most secure part of my house, which just happens to be the furnace room. In the winter, the room gets to maybe 30C, so it isn't that hot. The vapor is contained by my double storage system anyhow, and the mercury is very infrequently accessed. Other than storing this mercury in a bank vault, I think I've done everything I can to ensure that it never contaminates the environment.
@sc1338
4 жыл бұрын
Dan Adams wanna sell it?
Oh wise and all knowing chemistry oracle , I humbly ask for your wise guidance . Would you please tell me how to refine scrap lead to get pure lead . Thank you for your help
@DiverCTH
7 жыл бұрын
Buy a lead furnace with a bottom drain from your local gun store. Heat to melting temp, and flux with wax and/or sawdust. Scrape the dross off of the top, then drain off the resulting lead. Repeat until you get bored. This won't get super-pure lead, but should dross out most of the alloys.
@huckstirred7112
7 жыл бұрын
TRIED that. The alloy of this batch of lead wheel weights increased the melt temp so much that it melts at nearly the same temp , but do do your response I will certainly try it it again . Thank you much for your response
wait is glass not enough to store mercury?
Update??
wouldn't be a bad idea to flood it with an inert gas that might prevent any oxidation what do you think
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
It is commonly done actually. I just dont have any nitrogen or argon
@PhillyFail
7 жыл бұрын
NileRed okay but hey weld shops sell gas cheap
Would the mercury oxidize like other metals?
@Dra9ontail2
7 жыл бұрын
It does oxidize in air over time. You'll find a dark grey solid on top called 'dross'. I don't know what it would do at elevated temperatures tho... I think it'd react like most other metals.
My mercury would make you cringe. Got it out of some old German collection (pretty sure it's from or collected by someone from German because that's the language the little paper labels translate from using google). It's basically just a thing glass vile that someone sealed at the end with heat and a twist. Actually a lot of this collection probably isn't stored very well. The calcium is the one that makes me nervous. There ain't a lot of that fluid (not sure exactly what it's suspended in) in there and it tinks pretty hard against the inside of a very thing vile.
Why exactly are Mercury fumes so toxic if the elemental form isn't all that toxic aren't they just micro droplets. Do they deposit in your lungs or are more easily made into salts?
@vivimannequin
4 жыл бұрын
If mercury get in your blood stream it likes to make itself into organic methylmercury which is a neurotoxin.but you have to either let it seep into your skin or breath the vapors meaning you can drink it without any problems except mercury isn't really cheap
Does mercury react with sulfur at r. t.?
@luisp.3788
4 жыл бұрын
yep, at least from what I've heard. - late person
Have you considered making a mercury vacuum pump? You can pull a ridiculous 1 mPa vacuum with one. It's officially called a Sprengel pump.
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
Interesting, Ill look into it
Good decision to change that muggy bottle.
Will the mercury vapor build up enough pressure to break the glass?
@BuckFieri
7 жыл бұрын
Not unless its stored in a volcano
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
Nope. The vapor pressure isnt nearly enough to do that
@ECM398
7 жыл бұрын
no
@5thDragonDreamCaster
7 жыл бұрын
Did you know that you can store butane as a liquid in soda bottles.
@nielshildebey
7 жыл бұрын
5thDragonDreamCaster yes we arent stupid 😠
why dont you store the mercury in a smaller container so there isnt alot of room for vaiper buildup?
why the fuck am i watching magic science man at 4:14 in the morning
where did you find the mercury...? in europe it's impossible to buy it :(
@lajoswinkler
7 жыл бұрын
No, it's not impossible.
@Dra9ontail2
7 жыл бұрын
I bought mine from an old pharmacy. Labstuff also sells it.
@ExplosiveAnyThing
7 жыл бұрын
Really? I can't seem to find anywhere mercury. Even if i ask i get the weirdest look ever, aaannndd a bunch of questions..... What did you say to them? Oh also i cant find it from labstuff.... How much did you pay for how much of mercury?
Is there a market for mercury, I have some that I would like to sell. Found it in my father's out building after he passed.
@crewnail1763
4 жыл бұрын
@Bill Howitzer Two bottles, they may not be full, I think they may be 25 pound bottles. They are the plastic bottles that are labeled Instrument grade if I'm not mistaken.
@crewnail1763
4 жыл бұрын
@Bill Howitzer Not sure, sure wouldn't ship it and have no idea about legality. I'm in the Texas panhandle, if near or ever pass through this area could be picked up. Not sure what the value is, would you know?
@crewnail1763
4 жыл бұрын
@Bill Howitzer I didn't think it was that valuable but I haven't looked in years. I just happened to stumble upon this video and thought about it.
@crewnail1763
4 жыл бұрын
@Bill Howitzer What do you use it for? I know its been used in gold mining but needs to be reclaimed, I'm sure there is a lot of mercury pollution from the old timers.
why would you not use a smaller bottle and fill it all the way up?
@sivalley
7 жыл бұрын
Konstantinos Fylatos thermal expansion
@miatacollector
7 жыл бұрын
sivalley well I didn't mean to completely fill it with no room. Just leave a little volume for the vapors.
@NileRed
7 жыл бұрын
I didnt have a smaller one
Did you slow down the commentary because it seems Very Very slow
**D E E P E R I N T H E B E A K E R**
Where I can get mercury?
@vivimannequin
4 жыл бұрын
Old thermometers and tilt switches from thermostats are if you don't wanna search online
i was the 1000th like exactly
Anyone else get a kick out of the paper towel not absorbing the mercury?
I'm not coming for you but how are you disposing of your waste?