20 years later……I have the $5k set of clubs, but still play like I should have the $200 set 😂😐🔫

@e.rortiz2355

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😂😂😂

@maxcoulthurst6987

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Amen brother

@thetowndrunk988

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@@maxcoulthurst6987 well, at least I look good. All that matters. LOL

@rubenhernandez3189

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I bet lessons will help tremendously.

@thetowndrunk988

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@@rubenhernandez3189 they help the guy giving em……

I was inspired by Your detailed presentation and breakdown. With all your data and insights in hand I presented this concept to my wife. She listened intently and did not even interrupt. After I made my pitch she sighed deeply , rolled her eyes, and told me to find a new less expensive hobby.

@Kylegolfs94

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or a more supportive wife!

@redeagle9312

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same here !!!! LOL.

@sixoh_diesel5662

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I'm 47 was considering taking up MTBiking again, need new everything. Priced it out and then reconsidered because I'm not 20 something anymore. So now considering comeing back to golf, again still need everything new. I hear everyone complain about the cost of golf clubs, but I'm not seeing it solely on club cost comparing to MTBikes which can run 5k+ starting for a decent bike, that you buy a new one every few years and 10-15k fir top of the line. Now, there are no greens fees in MTBking but there are lift ticket fees if you go to a true mountain but still, I say all this to say its all relative, and I still think Golf is not that expensive.

@salihalexanderesq.2243

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@@sixoh_diesel5662 speak from that position of privilege...eyeroll.

I used my $200 set from walmart for the entirety of high school golf team and for roughly 20 years. I finally upgraded this year and gained a huge jump in distance and started gaining a ton of consistency. technology changed a lot in 2 decades. Still played well with the cheap clubs but found that I reached new levels with the better technology once I found my groove.

Scratch golfer here…. I’ve been playing my Ping ISI irons since 1997. My Callaway 460 driver since 2008. I just replaced my Adams clone woods with 2 Taylormade R9 woods($60 apiece), but have yet to try them out. It isn’t the clubs, people. lol

You'd have to be a high roller to upgrade an entire bag of new high end clubs every 2 years. I keep my clubs for about 5 years on average and try to rotate new purchases (driver OR irons OR putter, etc) every year so the cost is staggered over the 5 year duration.

@GageDrums

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I feel like the putter is one you don't just change out every couple years either.. Once you've gotten so used to how it performs its hard to want to change to another. Not saying don't upgrade from a cheap set, but once you get your first higher end putter, I don't really see a reason to want to swap it out. Especially if you were fitted for it

You should have Bryson Dechambeau confirm your calculations.😁

I have went through hand me downs and big dumb purchases over 5 sets of clubs in 26 years. I have spent 300.00 to 1400.00 for irons each time. Regrippings, reshafting...it is all a matter of perspective. Just be happy and enjoy the game.

I upgraded one club group at a time and found it to be a great way to transition. First club switched was the putter, because its the club I use every hole and the most, then added some wedges for short game improvement, flipped to driver, fairway woods and hybrid next, and finally changed out the irons. Helped prevent fully readapting my game to new clubs every-time.

I'm a 2 HCP and I've always played pre owned clubs. Only clubs I buy new are wedges which I replace every 2 years.

@mre_man

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same nothing in my bag is new......

5:20 lol nice warmup on the left

@JS-jf7gv

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Gotta engage them quads baby! 😂

One of the worst things you can as a beginner golfer is not getting fitted for clubs. Make the investment early and you'll be thankful you did. You don't have to go crazy with upgraded shafts and such, just get some decent stuff that's right for you. I spent 10 years using used, garbage clubs with shafts that were not right for me; a hodge podge mixture of Craigslist purchases and hand-me-downs from friends. I wish I would have invested sooner. Also, don't listen to your friends about what clubs you should get unless they're a pro club fitter. Go talk to an expert and avoid all of the nonsensical advice from friends that would kill a puppy to shoot 80 or lower.

First set was $200, now it’s about 1k. I feel like the driver/woods are worth the big bill relative to the irons bc of technology

Pushing my arms away on takeaway is exactly what I needed to hear. Was subconsciously doing it at times but now I think it’s what I needed to hit better

My clubs (TaylorMade RAC) are over 20 years old. I’ve been looking to upgrade, hopefully this spring. Love your content sir!

@dennisvwilson

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I received the Rac OS irons as a hand me down gift for my first set and absolutely love them. Hope to get a few years out of them before I invest in something better.

This was a video I needed. I’ve been watching a lot of your videos, good good and a few others, but I’m a new golfer and almost dumped a bunch of money into a new set. Glad I didn’t cuz I’m not good, lol. Thanks for putting the time and energy into these videos.

Thanks for the video! It was really helpful in confirming what I suspected. Lessons are the best way to go. I have been playing golf for about three months, two to three times a week depending on my wife and work😂 I am using my dads old ping ISI K irons 3 through wedge, bought used ISI sand wedge, and a G2 driver and two G2 fairway woods. The only thing I am deciding to do before or after starting lessons is sizing the irons to me my Dad was taller and going with graphite shafts I am 52 anyway thanks again

Love it Matt you are killing it thank you

That was fun to watch....and tru in the thought process,,,, thats why i buy used clubs... 71 yrs old and still in the low 90's when i can get out. lol... Vince

So you’re telling me I need a new driver. Got it!

Bought a set of Ping G10’s 15 years ago and used them until this summer. Got new Ping G425’s and my handicap has dropped from 20 to 9. The technology definitely makes a difference.

I would never spend $5K for clubs, period, and I have been fitted for mine. I think I barely spent $2K. $5K clubs is no guarantee I can play better. Now….if you can guarantee I will lose 20 strokes off my score, then we can sit down and I will pull out the checkbook LOL

this video is me every time i have to get approval from the wife to buy something expensive. "see here honey, this bass boat is gonna make us money in the long run." luckily golf clubs arent on the radar

I am a 12 handicap and I play with a set that cost me $500. It is a collection of used clubs from Calloway preowned. Ping Anser Driver, Srixon F65 fairway, Cleveland 588 hybrid, Mizuno Mp53 irons, Cleveland Wedges and Odyssey putter.

I started to play two years ago. I didn't want to pay crazy money but didn't want a box set. Decided to go with Gigagolf (online store). Purchased their version of Ping G30s 4-SW, their version of the Rocketballz 3-5 woods, their version Rocketballz 3-4-5-6 hybrids, and four wedges. All with midsize grips, graphite shafts with online custom fitting. Total price, $550. Oh and they threw in a stand bag. Great fit and finish. My brother in law (3 handicapper) who's a Ping fanatic was impressed by how well the irons and wedges felt and played. Of course the prices are somewhat higher now but still much cheaper then the big boys. So far they've served me well.

After playing for 20 years I finally upgraded the whole bag at once for about a 3500 total. Pre full bag upgrade I did the cheap of the shelf set from the local sports store. Then always upgraded bit by bit as I went. Putter 1st upgrade, then driver, then wedges, then irons. Every so often switching out clubs, but always used pre owned stuff (except putter). Seemed to help slowly develop a self taught game. Now shooting on a 10 handicap with a goal of 1-5 next season.

I have upgraded my driver and hybrids and wedges a few times over the past 25 years but have been playing the same set of Callaway big Bertha irons since 2000!

I know the goal here was to get a "rough estimate" of cost but it would be interesting to incorporate strokes gained somehow. Like the example of the game improvement wedge, how many of those 5 strokes were driver vs irons vs approach vs putting. spending a few dollars to fill in gaps in the bag is way more effective then dropping 5k on a "new set".

I need more golf buddies to go out and play light hearted rounds like this haha.

I spent prob 1200 total on a full set with bag back in 2007, still playing with them today minus the putter and wedges. About a 13 handicap

I understand this concept, but I a 12 handicap and am a firm believer that its is the operator more than the club. I buy used driver and woods(metals) and about a 600 dollar set of irons every 4 years. I have a ping putter that I found used and i wont let it go ever.

First set was a starter from Wilson in the late 70's - $60. Then a used improvement set in the 90's, Then a fitted set of clones in the late 90's with a Big Bertha driver and 3w. That lasted until 3 years ago. Current set is a mix of gently used hybrids, fairway woods and wedges, a new driver and a new iron set.

Im a 19 HCP Only been playing for 8 months. I spent 4k on my bag set up once I broke 100 with my Callaway starter set. Fully fitted to me(im 6'3) I needed longer clubs. I have also invested about 800 in lessons to improve my game. I think the money is better spent on lessons than new clubs. If you can have an open mind and do what the coach is telling you to do it will save you strokes! While I love my 4k bag of clubs the lessons improved my game more than the clubs. money is better spent there and is almost a cheat code. I have played with guys that have played golf for Years and never had a lesson and some of them to this day have a hard time breaking 100...

@TMar1961

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Never had a lesson other than listening to my buddy who was a scratch golfer. I've gotten down as low as a 10 but stay around 13 now; good enough golf to go play anywhere and not feel like I am paying to get beat up. All that being said, I completely agree with you. I often wonder how low I'd have gotten with a few real lessons along the way; I'm now 61 still holding 13 and have about 3k in the clubs thanks to ebay, new from the store would be well over that $5k mark. Bag is complete, including bling, and should be the last one I ever buy in this lifetime.

@stonewall618

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@@TMar1961 absolutely… I’ve been playing golf since April. Took 7 lessons and I just shot my best round at a 86 with new irons. Once I get those dialed in there’s no reason I can’t shoot an 80. Before lessons I couldn’t break 100. Best $800 I’ve spent on golf was learning how to hit the ball well and having someone correct my bad swing.

Matt, I would love to see a video taking a 90´s scoring golfer comparing a basic driver and several premium drivers to see the difference for those who are a bit wild off the tee to see if it actually helps . Always enjoy your content!

Exactly Correct! I used old Wilson Staffs and Adams woods for a few yrs then upgraded to Maltby customs

Great Video, I started 5 years ago with a Wilson set of clubs from a garage sale for like $75 and shooting around 95-100 a round, then three years ago I got a Taylormade M2 set (irons AP-9 and cleveland wedges 56 and 60 then the 3,5 wood and Driver) at a garage sale for a good price of $600 and I have been currently shooting around 83-85 and now I have been battling myself with spending the $1300 price for a set of just irons....(P790 Taylormade) to hopefully bring me closer to the 80 and below average....I am having a hard time with wanting to pay that much for just irons but I do feel my current ones are just not where they need to be anymore with grooves worn down and all around wear and tear of the clubs, also I need to get them re-gripped but I don't want to spend that money if I am just going to get new irons.....ahh so many decisions Great video, if you have any recommendations or thoughts let me know. I think I just need to pull the trigger on the new set, I just don't want to be disappointed in the long run if I don't see results you know....This sport is addicting and can empty pockets quick....!

@johnmartin4332

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Try Your Edge irons. Much cheaper but great reviews and made in America. Just purchased set of C721 irons new for $400

Best video you've made in a while, just made me smile and laugh the whole time, thanks Matt!

A week before a golf trip, my custom fitted clubs all got stolen. I went out and bought a 2nd hand set of Callaway irons and a 2nd hand T made driver. spent $400 and in 6 rounds of golf on courses I never played. I shot my handicap for the week. So expensive clubs do not make you better. I was a 9/10 at the time.

In my opinion. I think any brand name clubs from the last 5-10 years are going to play roughly the same. Despite what the marketing tells you, the drivers are not adding distance every year. They have compression rating restrictions just like metal bats. I bought a 7 year old 3 hybrid calloway xr that a shoot identically to my buddy's brand new calloway mavrik. A good swing produces a good shot with any club.

This is a very helpful video. Thank you.

Thanks Matt, great video!

I spent ~$1750, I have D - Sim 2 $450 3w and 5w - Sim 2 $199.99 ea 4-PW - P790s floor model $750 52, 56, 60 - Lazarus forged $117 Putter - Pine meadow $40 Got some good deal, love the wedges, but I'd say most could probably repeat or beat my cost and get what I have. I would never pay an extra $4k for a miniscule upgrade. The problem I have by getting great deals is my clubs are all stock instead of fitted, but I do pretty well.

I just bought Mizuno MP-32's from the get go and have had em since 2008 lol. Bought a backup pair from ebay. Still have my old Cleveland Launcher Driver too. Ive won handful of tournaments over the years, but seems I am waaaaay overdue for upgrade LOL

Have just purchased new set of Tour Edge C721 irons for $400. My current irons are Mizuno MX-17s that I paid $8 for from Habitat For Humanity. This will be my first set of new irons. Much stronger lofts.

I am a single mom and I bought a Top Flite set from Dick’s; mens senior shafts, so I can play with my teenage son. Could not use his clubs cuz he is a leftie. My dad gave me his old Adam’s driver which I had re-gripped for $10. Plan on adding a wedge, maybe a 56 degree. Not really sure what he said in the video?? The plan is to get consistent shots with these before upgrading. 5k is a lot of dough. I am looking more around 1k.

It's true, golf clubs are crazy expensive especially drivers and putters because they promise transformation in your game. Don't be silly, get lessons. Even get fit for clubs so that you know what you need. I was fit for irons 2 years ago and it cost $120 for the fitting. And I've learned what sort of shafts that I need in general for my driver. It's not fancy but it works. The thing is, I refuse on principal to spend $600 on a new driver. So I buy 2nd hand. When my brand issues a new model every 2 years, I shop for the previous model because the guys who need the new one want to sell their old one and you can get them from used club dealers for about half price. Also, I've been using my $300 driver for 6 years now and have no plans to replace it. I did have new grips put on though.

I really looking forward to get new sets of irons next year Been using JPX EZ for 5 years and now looking into 3-PW set Can't hit the hybrid like I used to

I started out with top flight package set from acedemy sports. I now have upgraded my driver, 3 wood, and added a 56 and 60 degree. I am really starting to get some power. Still need to work on consistency. Should i wait until i get more consistency to upgrade my irons?

great video, I do think better players can play worse clubs better than high handicap golfers though

Can you do a review on the stix golf clubs?

Lol didn't know mr short game went to MIT. Cost of used clubs are really going to come down since the pandemic surge. In my opinion you are crazy buying new clubs that perform no better than clubs from the last 8 years.

We all wanna know how long this took you to dream up this video? You are hilarious 😂 Keep up the creativity 👏

@MrShortGame

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Way too long.

Bought some wedges from Amazon for a holiday set I leave at the holiday home The wedges cost about 1/4 the price of your standard Callaway Vokey TaylorMade Wedges available I would say they are about 10% less consistent than my Callaway wedges I normally game If you looking straight up value for performance then the cheaper clubs win every time

Good show....Start with a good set and brand will make for more fun and better golf...But the high end set in the $ 5,000 range. great if you have the bucks to burn or play for big bucks on the course...Tools of the trade....The woods and putter I believe are the biggest cost to outfit your game..Irons 4 thru pw there are a lot out there around $ 1,400 dollars..or less....

Loved the video & concept, but want to present a counterpoint. Quality vs. Price is non-linear with pretty much everything. IE, cars, wine, sporting goods... People are willing to pay much higher prices for incremental gains.

Personally I would say a player should look into changing/upgrading clubs for every 10 shots they knock off their average score or when their score plateaus until they are in the low 80's or upper 70's. I started the year off with my old DCI irons from the 90's (high school) then to a gifted set of Bombtech irons. Little change in the score. Then I bought new Mavrik irons and I dropped 10 shots (mid 90's to mid 80's) in about a month. Of course this won't work for everyone and I hit the course and range hard this year which helped lower my scores but I don't think I would've shot 84 (lowest ever) with my older set of irons.

OMG I have been to that range a ton when I would travel to Alpharetta for work. That's cool

Great analysis!

I just got a new set of Pings last year. Snapped my stiff shaft after 5 rounds of golf, upgraded to an extra stiff Mitsubishi shaft (nothing super premium just under $250) and heard it crack after my drive. My hand speed is over 115 on a good day. I take very good care of my clubs, but I think I need an even better shaft at this point for my driver. I was advised to upgrade it after hearing that crack because when I got fitted, my hand speed was in the high 120’s. Any suggestions on shafts? Note: I can hit my 9 iron 200yards- which seems cool but playing with my P at 150 out isn’t always fun.

Great VID, I spent 2k on my set of clubs. I'm a mid/high handicapper and wouldn't spend 10k for those shots but I would spend 1k more :)

This was a good one mate...lmfao.

Have a friend who got fit for $1500 irons and is playing worse than his old CB and said he’s going back to CB next season

I'm a decent golfing, shoot in 70s on regular basis. Only clubs I've ever bought brand new our my wedges. Everything else is used 2nd hand golf clubs. Don't need to go spend thousands of dollars on clubs to play well.

Or you piece a set of clubs together. PXG 0311 XF with a Tensei shaft for $200, Cobra F9 3 wood and hybrid $170 each, Sub 70 699 Pro irons 5-PW for $570, Taylor Made ATX wedges 52, 56, 60 (free from a friend) and a Ping 1/2 CRAZ-E putter for $50 = $1,160. 👍

@aliensarereal7832

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I agree with you. I've build all my clubs useing parts I buy cheap. One set of iron heads cost me 32 bucks brand new. Threw 12 dollar graphite shafts in them and erased 3 strokes immediately. I call bullshit on this expensive golf club crap. It's an excuse to feed your ego. But I'd never play a Walmart set.

@deannanance8843

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I have Callaway pre owned XR16s and have been playing with them since 2018. I hit these XR16 irons better than I have any clubs ever. I have an upgraded Callaway Rogue driver and love it. I saved money getting pre owned and they were just like new. Most important thing is to get fitted so you are playing with clubs that are appropriate for you, not your favorite tour player!

None of us “need” a 5k set of clubs. If you do something as a hobby for long enough though, it just adds up over time.

Started out much the way you did your analysis. Cheap, slightly better and slightly more expensive to today, expensive Callaways. The first 2 sets were an easy purchase. The Callaways were difficult to purchase. Why? I'm married now 😀

People need to understand that unless your skill level matches thr peice tag, you don't need to spend tons of money on clubs/balls. You need swing/ball speed to really take advantage of alot of the separating features in irons/drivers, not to mention having a swing that ensures conilsistent and solid impact. I hit blades on a simulator about 10 years ago and the measurable were terrible because my swing was jacked. Put that money to lessons first and then revist the massive price tag clubs

i use the bombtech 3.0 irons some 2nd hand wedges and an r11 driver and avg 93 a round but this is my first year playing but am buying a new driver this winter. so watch out mid 80s lol

Currently trying to work out what 10 yards is worth to me. Hit a new driver at the range (ltdx max) and it’s constantly 10 yards longer than my 2018 rogue. But how much value and shots is 10 yard’s worth

Hey you’re local to me. I’m at that range all the time. Cool video. 👍

You must be reading my Mind. I currently uses Wilson D350's and considering upgrading Irons to something more Current. Good on Driver and Wedges and Putter. The question really should be should you Consider New or Used? Great Advice by the way..

@NathanSaito

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Can find some pretty good deals on used clubs if you are patient. Hard to find the exact specs you're looking for though

I agree that beginners can hold off before buying the latest name brand clubs, but there's another middle ground between the $250 set and the $5000 high end set: direct to consumer (DTC) companies. Reputable DTC companies like Maltby, Sub70, Haywood, Takomo, and PXG (0211 line) make very good brand new clubs that you can order customized to your shaft model preference, flex, length, and lie. Even a high handicapper will probably benefit from clubs better suited to their swing especially if they have unusual dimensions. Most DTC companies don't spend the $$$ on marketing and sponsorships that the big brands do so they can bring great products to the consumer for much less.

@sixoh_diesel5662

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But would a high handicapper know what flex, length, lie they needed? Asking for a friend 🤣

I’m all for throwing money at the problem. If you’re hitting your 4 year old irons poorly you’re blaming older tech. If you have nice shiny new irons and you’re still trash you can finally blame yourself.

What an absolutely pointless yet absolutely incredible video! LOVE IT!

Depends on how much you enjoy the game and your skill level, everyone knows the rich guy who buys clubs every other year and can't break 90 to save his life but I've never seen a really good golfer using cheap equipment. When you get good at golf, you can really see and feel the difference between a high quality club and cheap junk.

Can you do the same test either with the nitro blasters and a sand wedge or the Wilson SGI profile set that retails for $399.99? Please and thank you. Love your content

I like buying things 🤷‍♂️😂 played some cheap second hand clubs for 10 months then broke 100 3 times on the bounce, decided to treat myself to some zx5 with project x shafts second hand of course. Not broke 100 since 😂 they look good though

I still play with old F9, srixon z355, old rtx wedges and old ping pal putter... I still kick ass to most of the guys with high ends clubs

Mind blown 🤯

I would like to have seen you get a solid 90 or 100 score guy and let him play with the expensive set. Check results.

Better clubs doesn't necessarily make a better golfer. You can drastically drop scores using a "good" set of used clubs that roughly fit your swing and don't cost 5 grand, and spend a few hundred bucks on LESSONS from a local golf pro.

Love the math! Cheaper clubs are made cheaper. I would crack faces, break hozels etc. My 909D3 is still in great shape and I couldn't tell you how many thousands of balls I've hit with it

Fun video but there’s some fuzzy math going on here. Nice vid Matt 😊

Most expensive club I own is my driver (Sim 2 Max) $250, which I got off of another local golfer. Unless I was a tour player; there is just no way that I would buy anything brand new. It just don't make sense for the weekend warrior.

I’d just add if you have a 90 mph+ swing speed and can top 100 mph with your driver then the box set won’t last. You might go to the range and hit one and your driver head goes further than the ball … don’t as me how I know

Get the scotty cover off that good good putter man

I wonder how many people upgrade,add incrementally one or two clubs at a time outside of irons.

$10k to drop 20 strokes? $10k is a lot of lessons, a lot. You'd get a lot better results spending the money on lessons than gear.

Would you give lesson here in Atlanta??

Hey Matt, Just wondering if you would do a video update on your Champions tour qualifing for an event? Or how you plan on doing that? The U.S. open is at a phenomenal course here in Wisconsin.... SentryWorld! Give it a shot? You would have me in the gallery!!

@MrShortGame

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Updates will be primarily on my podcast channel

Come on man, a Scotty custom shop cover on a good good putter?

You should put the upgraded shaft in your he Nitro clubs to see if that makes a difference.

A very nice used set for around $300 is a much better investment, IMO

Your initial estimate still didn't account for all the extra accessories - balls, tees, rangefinder, alignment aids, greens fees, range balls, clothing, shoes, towels, gloves etc. Add another $400-$500 to that start-up cost. Golf can certainly be expensive - as much as you want it to be - but the great myth of golf is that you can buy a better game.

For the average golfer, expensive clubs do nothing to lower ones score. Nothing. No more than a Rolex tells better time than a $10 digital watch. For the beginner, there are many expensive club choices. Unbelievable value. My clubs are a bunch of old ones I have collected over the years. For example I bought my driver used 8 years ago. So about 15 years old. Could I use new one? Well, sure. lol. My putter is the original Odyssey 2 ball. Probably more than 20 years old. Could I use a new one? Actually, no. But last week I played 9 holes at my course and had 8 pars and a bogey (on a long par 4 I can't reach in 2 so really a par 5 for me).

Interesting. Had a set of Staff clubs years ago the shafts were so thick it was like setting a telephone pole up. I had no clue then what they weren't doing for me. I just thought I sucked for a couple years. I bought a set of Callaway irons S2H2 approved by the Ex wife, I then turned into the beast. It was a night in day transformation my scores were dropping like a prom dates panties. I'm just now, getting around to getting a new/used set. I did sign up for a few lessons back in the day which had been improving my score until I found out my Club pro started drinking more than I did and rarely came to another lesson. As a matter of fact he just disappeared. The club house would would get all pissed off about him not showing up, then set me up with a nice pile of balls letting me hit until my forearms resembled Popeye's. IMO does a set of NEW clubs help yes it does. Warning Don't start chasing a few yards more distance can get pricey.

"most people replace their clubs every 2 years" me with the same irons for the last 5 years. I think you accidentally tricked me into justifying my next purchase

I due for new irons if people are buying new ones every two years I’m still playing callaway x-24 hot irons!

I think it's more likely a new golfer right out of the gates would be shooting 110-120, or maybe I'm just surrounding myself with the wrong people

Just breaking down the cost-benefit for thieves breaking into cars or garages lol

Hmmmm I wonder if "most" golfers replace their clubs every two years. I know many do, but most? I feel like that is a little inaccurate.