When I started playing drums I would play to records (remember those). So I guess the music was my click. Years later I did use a click and it was so much easier.

@laszlozoltan5021

5 жыл бұрын

sometimes I do that- old familiars and such that I used to air-drum to before I got a kit- even now I do to try to mix up the 4/4 groove I seem to be locked into right now. But I realize it is mostly too fast for me- luckily I can slow a track down through a daw and practice the pattern. I am discovering there is a lot more happening underneath nowadays than I took for granted. It is pretty cool actually

Terrific immediately useful concept....thanks Stephan

Percussion loop is a great idea, thanks from south of brazil!!!

This is fantastic. I've been making loops and melodies on the MPC and drumming to them without realizing it was the better approach. It is easier and definitely more fun than playing to a click. I thought what I was doing was worse, but after this video, I'll hardly practice to a click again.

Amazing!! I’ve had that problem for years, this is just what I needed. Thanks a million!

Stephen Clarke your channel is so helpful to me! Its like a Beginners guide to drumming for dummies! Thank you fam, you now have a new subscriber.

Brilliant idea. The middle set, without percussion really appealed to me, since I like listening to that sort of music in the background in the first place. And there are easy tools that can allow you to create that kind of synthesized "music". I have several inexpensive metronomes, but I hate them all because they sound like my alarm going off, all beepy instead of drummy. Thanks.

I have been "enjoying" practicing to only a downbeat click. Heck even just count out loud and clap the downbeat. It's an eye opening excercise.

Thank you Stephen, brilliant! 👍

Brilliant! Thank you.

Really liked your work on the Melodic 90 bpm

Great advice!

Great video......I use a TAMA RW200.......I watch a light, easy to work with onstage.

Great idea!

It can also help to figure out which is your dominant ear, and have the click in that. You can have a dominant and more comfortable ear, same as eyes and hands. Mine is my right ear, so I have the click play only on that side for recording with any guitar/drum tracks.

I'm doing this in an similar way. Placed a keyboard beside the kit and running some keyboard automation.

Very cool! ! I started my own channel few months ago and came across yours. keep up! Just subbed

If you have Logic, Garage Band or Reason or some other DAW there are tons of different percussion and melodic loops and you can practice to and you can adjust the tempo and layer different loops to together and even make an arrangement if you want.

Great video

That's a good approach to the problem. I have limited experience with clicks and metronomes, but I've noticed I can play along to some just fine, but I can't play along to others. The recording software ones (I'm assuming built in. I don't know.) I have a hard time with. My Tama metronome I can play along to all day. I used another module somewhere and had to mute that too. I can't think of any differences between them other than the sounds themselves, but I can't play to some.

Thank you

This is good advice. I do the click thing without issue, but sometimes it does get boring. Something I will do too is make MIDI drums and hard quantize then play drums and or/or guitar with that, then redo the entire thing live. In other words, the MIDI is cold and perfect. The live drums shouldn't be perfect, but give you something to follow esp if you already have drum parts written for songs etc. Great stuff.

I've ran a studio for a few decades, and one of my metronome fixes was always to record myself shaking an egg shaker to the metronome, then muting the click. Then, once the band is ready, often playing some sort of in time, in key, simple melody on the keyboard to go along with it. Some members would want both, some would want one or the other, and some would just want click (not even other band tracks) so this has proven to be a session saver for sure. Also, the keyboard melody has actually made it into final tracks a number of times because the band vibes with it so well, so it's a win win.

Loops are really helping me.

I suggest using a shaker loop as a metronome for acoustic guitar and even recording midi parts in a DAW. It induces “vibe” or human feel into the recording. Then when it comes to Laying down live drums, this Lets you play drums as oppose to keeping time for everyone else. For Funky uptempo stuff, a Hand clap, human beatbox or foot stomping loop can give push or laid back feel.

Hey dude newish subscriber here really like your videos and I'm recently restarting to play after 8 years but I remember I had this drum instructor that made me sleep with the metronome one time to get that tempo right , it was a bit much but it did help somehow after that I just turn the metronome on for a few minutes to try and keep it fresh in my mind. Still hate it tho lol

@Nowhy

5 жыл бұрын

You hated it because it was not a tempo that was natural for you at that time of your life (don't get stuck - "be like water" ;) ) .. When I wanted to play the music or insperation that I am hearing in me and went into the studio, two things I had to find out (I am generalizing here and there were other approaches): 1. What key, or more precise, what scale fits my emotional state. 2. What Tempo, or more precise, what rhythm is my "internal time keeper voice" speaking at. Like always with music or being whole, listening is key... There is a talk on TED about how to listen - The speaker is deaf ;) Gleene is her name if I remember correctly.

I do something similar to this. I just loop 4 bass drum hits on 1 2 3 4. A snare on 2&4 and 8th notes on a high hat. Or I go on KZread and look up drumless backing tracks and play along.

I think that practice isnt about having fun. Its hard work (which can be fun). The fun comes from playing with others. From what I have found so far, playing to 30 bpm for 20ish minutes a day really solidifies your inner feel and time. Then, when you play to any other time it feels super easy because you were used to an ultra slow beat and all of a sudden it feels like the time is being handed to you for free.

The electronic Roland sets have loops like these, I usually run it through my drum amp and sit at my kit

I love my metronome!

You should start a new KZread channel for practice beats! Lol Drum line in marching band did the most for my timing and tempo but practicing with recordings has done a lot for me. I tend to rotate the recordings a lot: familiar and unfamiliar; sometimes pick something new on KZread and do my best. Also choose a variety of tempos and loose vs tight drumming. I tend to follow Buddy Rich’s advice: don’t practice.... Play! Practice is boring but you can play along with recordings and integrate the practice points.

Hey stephan, i really like your'e video's. Can you tell me what kind of snaredrum you use? Thanks!

That fill at 5:25!

I've played for decades, never practiced to a click track because I hate them. They remind me too much of playing on the dashboard of my car in time with the turn signal when I'm at a stoplight--something done out of boredom, not music. I used to practice to records and tapes. The one time I used a click was on my Roland set, it has a clave click and I practiced with it after reading Jack DeJohnette's method book where he recommends having the clave running in your head all the time, even for jazz and rock. What you're showing here, playing with a percussion track, would be something like that and would be way more interesting than a 4-beat click over and over.

I've often thought about having a drummer record to a percussion loop if they're really struggling when I'm recording them. I'll have to try this out at some point! A side note, your kit sounds amazing! What kick and toms are those?

so, as a beginner, sometimes when practicing I am just awful, usually the day following a productive session, maybe Im too tired or whatever.... in your experience is it better to plow on hopefully warming up on the way ? or should I step off for a bit and come back later on ? I try to spend time hitting the kit daily but after a few minutes it feels dead is when I have to stop and ask myself if I should keep trying or take a break ? How do you approach your students when they come in and basically wind up wasting your time not getting it on that day ?

i have been following you since I ad started drumming but since that i have changed to percussion, (yet just have a cajon and a rav drum). So if i would like to apply these method to my percussion playing, i should use drums as a metronome? kinda like a revesed way to yours? Or because the cajon is still close to a drumset, i should stick to your percussion loops, hmm intresting

Ive never used a metronome and looking back I wished I had done so...playing over 40+ yrs I have used click tracks(which because of the fact I never used a metronome I could never get used to a click)) I have abandoned the idea now because unfortunately I have wrecked my hearing to the point of a hearing aid (been deaf since an infant) but on the other hand playing drums didnt help much either !LOL! (damn cymbals!) I still play believe it or not despite my deafness and I actually do studio work too here & there ..do yourself a favor all you drummers (especially the younger ones) and protect your hearing.....yeah but if I only could go back in time....

This is exactly what I did, hated click. Now use human metronome as I record myself with a percussion instrument along to the click. Means I can put feeling into things

Playing along with an album recorded with a click is my favorite way

I've always wondered if just playing along to tracks is as effective at strengthening your time as playing to a metronome. Most of the time I just play along to recorded versions of the songs I'm playing. Should I still be practicing with either a metronome or these loops?

@no_peaches_8085

5 жыл бұрын

good question

Where do I get those loops

Any tips from anyone here in how to get my drummer to practice to a click he refuses to and it’s starting to become an issue for the band

I have never practiced with a click or any timekeeping device and have no trouble keeping time by myself

The very fact that you hear a lot of parts is the reason it isn't good time practice. The metronome is definite and unyielding. You can be sloppy and play to a good percussion track and it'll sound okay. And you'll think you're doing well. The metronome lets you know when you're the slightest bit off.

@bryanharrison3889

5 жыл бұрын

This idea is more for people who just can't get the mindset of metronome playing.

@NelsonMontana1234

5 жыл бұрын

@@bryanharrison3889 That's just making excuses for people with a bad work ethic. You do what you need to do to get better-- not feel better about yourself.

@Arkansya

5 жыл бұрын

@@NelsonMontana1234 if the aim is only to keep up a click track, a korg volca beats is cheaper than the drummer's pay. You have to be able to play along in time and the right feel/pocket for whatever song you perform with other musicians. Learning to feel and listen the internal clocka with tracks is an interesting way. Many drummers feel kinda ok following the click but get lost when there's none. They are shitty drummers for sure.

wouldn´t it make sense to at least on this video have no background music? sigh.

@kaalmansur

5 жыл бұрын

@@justincuret you talkin´to me?

Don't tell me what to do. You're not my real dad!

U funny

ok yeah but you need metronome to create the musical track to play by....?

Dude get a nice drum set

I'm a simple guy, saw Dubstep, turned off your video..

@bryanharrison3889

5 жыл бұрын

Lots of info here... you only hurt yourself.

I think you are doing more educational videos than practice.Go to a good teacher istead this youtube shit! He will give you a good technic and sound which you don't have yet. The world is going to analog-real live man, instagram and youtube will fall soon. What will you do!?

shorten your beard, dude!

Great idea!