STOP Defending Pokémon Scarlet and Violet

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Pokemon Scarlet and Violet just released and... they're something so far.
►Discord: / discord
0:00 Intro
0:47 Optimization Stuff
2:02 People Defending Poor Optimization
5:35 Conclusion
#pokemon #pokemonscarlet #pokemonviolet

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  • @Rogar555
    @Rogar555 Жыл бұрын

    When Arceus came out and we found out Monolith Soft helped out, the game ran as good as it can, knowing that Gamefreak was going to do it themselves would have been even worse. We need GF to have more of Nintendo's in house to help out from now on and to also change the old guard because they clearly gotten complacent. To hammer my point even further, ever since they went full 3D, they have just been getting worse and worse. I'm with you on this, I just want the games to succeed and not be a buggy janky mess.

  • @ivifernando4488
    @ivifernando4488 Жыл бұрын

    I disabled auto-save and I didn't have any crashes while playing. But I agree that it doesn't make sense for the game to be so laggy in the cutscenes. And let alone how pig the NPCs are when they are relatively far away from you. I have the same opinion as you, I loved the game, it was beautiful to play with the real feeling of an open world, but the lag is something that doesn't make sense to exist.

  • @sertulariae8294
    @sertulariae8294 Жыл бұрын

    Klawf's Anger Shell ability makes him unplayable because during every fight it triggers and makes you watch 4 different animations to illustrate the way his stats changed.

  • @jimimcmahon4522

    @jimimcmahon4522

    Жыл бұрын

    I hate that they did that it should've functioned like when a pokemon uses shell smash because that's basically what that ability is.

  • @baconsword4261
    @baconsword4261 Жыл бұрын

    Gamefreak try not to force a game out for the holidays challenge (impossible)

  • @eikeshu
    @eikeshu Жыл бұрын

    I personally don't have this game, but from what I've seen, the optimization issues are really unacceptable and the game crashing sucks. Having a framerate that is so inconsistent whilst not delivering high quality visuals is definitely an issue of the game. In older console generations (ps3 360 mainly), even with games that had bad framerates (i.e constantly going below 30) at least had a reason to since they delivered very high quality visuals for that time (main example I can think of is Far Cry 3). Pokemon was never a graphical powerhouse and I've never heard the games get applauded for performance, but there's no reason why the Switch should be struggling. It can run Bioshock Infinite and Doom 2016 at 30fps, and Burnout Paradise at a pretty consistent 60fps for crying out loud. I'm not a snob for framerate or graphics, and I understand that on the Switch one of those things may be sacrificed depending on what the devs wanna do, but the state of both of those things in this game are not good here. So it's really just the game having bad optimization. I hope they fix it soon, cuz it shouldn't be like this.

  • @wrrrryyyy12
    @wrrrryyyy12 Жыл бұрын

    i dont have a switch or pokemon so im on your side since people really should look at issues with stuff they like

  • @statesminds
    @statesminds Жыл бұрын

    I like the game and it has a lot of things to make it a great Pokémon game. It also has a lot of things that they had in older games and PLA they took out which is dumb. Obviously the performance should be better. I don’t think anyone is saying it shouldn’t. People just still enjoying the game and people attacking them for it

  • @orsonzedd

    @orsonzedd

    Жыл бұрын

    I am 3njoying the game too but it's a hot mess

  • @SpammusX

    @SpammusX

    Жыл бұрын

    Paying full price for hot garbage is unacceptable. The Pokémon franchise has the resources to invest in proper R&D to develop a proper 3D engine at least. They've had years. This isn't uncharted territory. They aren't trailblazing. They have no excuse to have this game run worst than the last one, and not enough consumers are voting properly with their wallets.

  • @emeralddragonz2.019
    @emeralddragonz2.019 Жыл бұрын

    I don’t really have much of a problem with the games other than 2 things: 1.) The bugs & glitches. I mainly do see the problem being how top notch the quality of the graphics are. It’s a bit too much for the Switch to handle (then again we have games like Xenoblade) 2.) The Dunsparce evolution. I mean I am thankful that Dunsparce did get an evolution after so many years but… I honestly was expecting the evo to look more as a Dragon-type Pokémon. qwq

  • @lionheart4424
    @lionheart4424 Жыл бұрын

    It's super sad because the actual presentation of the game (3D models, textures and art design) is much, much better than Sword/Shield. But the performance is really hindering all that out.

  • @Zrorro
    @Zrorro Жыл бұрын

    Internet: stop playing Pokemon, it's all glitchy and stuff. Me playing Pokemon: yeah I see it Internet: then stop playing it, look at the bad frame rate. Me playing: yeah, it's pretty bad Internet: then why are you still playing it? Me: But I am having fun.....

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    You can have fun with it.

  • @StarmisYT
    @StarmisYT Жыл бұрын

    If they fixed the performance and glitches(though it makes the game more funny than anything), it would be a whole lot better. I really like this game, but I agree it could be a whole lot better.

  • @TonymeansAnthony
    @TonymeansAnthony Жыл бұрын

    Tbh I can agree. Even me who doesn’t have the game knows what’s going on with all the errors and bugs and stuff. _I’m not a Pokémon type of guy either tbh._

  • @hakimalam7753
    @hakimalam7753 Жыл бұрын

    I wish Game Freak could spend some more years learning about developing 3D games especially in optimization aspect, because the games keep coming out every 3-4 years even when they transition from 2D to 3D. Though I think even 3 years should be more than enough to make these cartoony style games

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    I usually say games should take as much time as they need for development as there are always hurdles you have to go through when making them. However in Gamefreak's case, development studios from Nintendo or one like Genius Sorority (Pokemon Colosseum's development team) should collaborate with them on future mainline Pokemon games.

  • @Max-ws9kh
    @Max-ws9kh Жыл бұрын

    I did enjoy my time with this game although I saw some problems about that game on other people playing (Like the ones you mention), the only problem I run on my play through is seing wild Pokémon doing the Harlem Shake from far away. That’s all I can say.

  • @TheAAJYu
    @TheAAJYu Жыл бұрын

    I consider myself to have a low standard when it comes graphical fidelity after playing and enjoying Fire Emblem Three Houses and Legends Arceus, and for performance, I at least expect my games to be playable and consistent in presentation. In Scarlet and Violet, the dips in performance are not only distracting (frame rate drops), they can actively hinder your experience (crashes). That is where I draw the line. The game itself is very nice, but how can I enjoy it when it’s sluggish to go through and I know there’s always a chance that something out of my control will go wrong?

  • @andrewwarner4434
    @andrewwarner4434 Жыл бұрын

    The problem is a lot of these social media posts are people in multiplayer trying to create visual glitches lol

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    I've seen some of them and they're something for sure.

  • @K41_GER
    @K41_GER Жыл бұрын

    Eyo ngl absolute banger video Its painful how Botw runs pretty much without issues and yet POKEMON cant run stable years after all this time!

  • @cryptochronos4099
    @cryptochronos4099 Жыл бұрын

    I played for 9hrs on Monday and I had auto save turned off at the end of it right when i was about to save and call it a day the game crashed when one of my pokemon evolved. I've honestly been saying this since x&y but gamefreak are decent idea people but some of the worst devs and the matter that pokemon isnt just outsourced to hal or another nintendo inhouse just shocks me to this day. The games are good they made ev training easier with the bands and vitamins available early on they added the new terastralizing gimmic but didnt make it a grindy slog to get the tera type you want on the pokemon you want, so many of the small details were so well done and thought through that it just makes the flaws that are there just seem so much more disappointing.

  • @ShadowScarKnight
    @ShadowScarKnight Жыл бұрын

    Is it bad that I expected you to add in a crash screen at the end just as a joke- Still I agree; the game's honestly very entertaining despite the bugs, this is why I was apprehensive about the three year gap between this and SwSh. This game needed more time to iron out all the bugginess prior to release

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    That's not bad for the expected joke lol. Anyways, Gamefreak definitely needed more time with these games.

  • @orsonzedd
    @orsonzedd Жыл бұрын

    By the way if your game crashes hold X, B and Up and you can reload from a back up save that is usually further along

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    I've heard about this and it works. Thanks for letting me and others know. 👍

  • @orsonzedd

    @orsonzedd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ronald200in I'm glad to hear it helps!

  • @neophyte_tpk
    @neophyte_tpk Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video Ron

  • @octanecat3825
    @octanecat3825 Жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised people still say this game runs like crap because it's on switch when xenoblade 3 released a few months before and have no major bugs that break the game like this. While there were glitches like one that let you challenge a super boss early to skip trave to a late game area when still in the early game but that got patched pretty quickly.

  • @charg1nmalaz0r51

    @charg1nmalaz0r51

    11 ай бұрын

    Well they are technically corrct and wrong at the same time. It would run better if it wasnt on switch because the lack of optimisations wouldnt matter lol. But yeah you are right the company knows what hardware they are working on and didnt make any attempt to make it work at all

  • @darrien1859
    @darrien1859 Жыл бұрын

    This video was definitely needed!! I really enjoying the game but if my game crash one more time!!!!🤬🤬🤬 thank you Ron for spreading awareness

  • @Coldcolor900
    @Coldcolor900 Жыл бұрын

    0:29 look ma I'm on TV anyway yeah. I think this game is great, but it could do without a world ending sandwich.

  • @rosefire1988
    @rosefire1988 Жыл бұрын

    The only thing is frame drops which I don't really matter about

  • @Voltaradragoness
    @Voltaradragoness Жыл бұрын

    I thankfully didn't have any crashes, but the slowness and graphical/lighting glitches just killed my will to live with this game. I loved the gameplay overall, but they're so slow. People do need to stop defending this, there's no excuse. The whole patch mentality is killing games and this is just another example. Not to mention that other things just feel half-assed or unfinished like certain designs/evolutions.(Dunsparce) and christ, even most of the shiny forms look unfinished. Like Koraidon has a killer shiny, so wtf happened with Miraidon? Just overall this game just feels unfinished to me and it saddens me. This is freaking pokemon, they can't be doing this. (Also just saying that we now live in a universe where a recent Sonic game functions BETTER then a recent Pokemon game)

  • @yanturgeon1384
    @yanturgeon1384 Жыл бұрын

    I would have buy it if the performance were better but no i will not buy a pokemon if they dont try to do their best to create a pokemon game just like they did their best with legend

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    I would of preferred if we got Legends DLC for November so that Scarlet and Violet can have more development time.

  • @Axzellx
    @Axzellx Жыл бұрын

    i don't play pokemon. but yeah. i heard rumors crashing the game for no reason in a matter of seconds

  • @Tai-Kun
    @Tai-Kun Жыл бұрын

    still waiting for that sauce on that cynthia pic 👀

  • @aurorablaize
    @aurorablaize Жыл бұрын

    I have yet to see someone defend the bad optimization. What I HAVE seen them do is say they're having fun while still acknowledging it.

  • @ToastyBroskii
    @ToastyBroskii Жыл бұрын

    Luckily I’ve had no issues playing except some lag here and there

  • @brandonbackup873

    @brandonbackup873

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, same. Worst glitch was falling through the floor, everything else is just cosmetic issues.

  • @FormattedWill
    @FormattedWill Жыл бұрын

    The game certainly has a good bit of jank, I am liking the game overall though. I disabled auto-save and have the game installed on a micro-sd card. Performance seems to be better than what other people have been reporting. Additionally, I had the game crash once when I encountered a mimikyu which was annoying. As for the reason behind the performance issues and pop-in and stuff, it's likely a combo of the switch hardware, which gamefreak has no control over, and the engine they are using which gamefreak hypothetically control. I only say hypothetically, because they may not have access to a different engines due to nintendo publishing, it's unlikely but a real possibility. just look at lego star wars the skywalker saga as an example of developers being forced to use inferior or inefficient engines. With how much money pokemon makes I do expect them to put better funding into the game development and using something like unreal 5 would be awesome, but the cost of learning a new engine can be pretty high both financially and time-wise, and with the release schedule they seem to be required to have by nintendo, just might not be feasible. To be fair though, the pokemon games aren't necessarily the largest part of the money making machine that is pokemon, and while it definitely makes a good amount, in the total pie, it probably makes much less than merchandise, the card game, the anime, etc. and so the amount of funding they actually get to make the games is likely proportional to how much revenue it makes. Which kinda sucks, but they likely wouldn't fund the pokemon game dev for say 2 million when the games only bring in say 3.5 million when they could invest 2 million in all the other areas of merch and bring in say 5 million.

  • @TheGooseIsLoose9000

    @TheGooseIsLoose9000

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude they rushed the game. It isnt hardware and it ain't the engine. Bad code.

  • @bacon_208
    @bacon_208 Жыл бұрын

    Nobody is defending the poor optimisation. People are just saying that past the optimisation, the games are the best we've gotten since gen 5 for a mainline Pokemon game and it's misleading for people to review bomb them with 0s

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't agree with review bombing. Everything should have a fair review. Also with gen 5, that's because it was the DS which even has weaker hardware when compared to a hybrid console like the Switch.

  • @charg1nmalaz0r51

    @charg1nmalaz0r51

    11 ай бұрын

    plenty of people are defending the poor optimisation to the point they are gaslighting it out of existence lol

  • @rosefire1988
    @rosefire1988 Жыл бұрын

    Bro I've never had any problems

  • @micahfurlow2624

    @micahfurlow2624

    6 ай бұрын

    2:32

  • @mr.thecoon1956
    @mr.thecoon1956 Жыл бұрын

    I'll never understand the argument that the reason why it runs poorly is that the switch is bad when games like BotW, the Xenoblade games, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, and Monster Hunter Rise run well on the system.

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    I can understand games like Xenoblade and Monster Hunter having technical issues since there's a lot going on with the action. However, the other games run fine on the Switch.

  • @jakebleyenberg8822
    @jakebleyenberg8822 Жыл бұрын

    I will continue defend it until I see a first hand problem with the game :)

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    Fair enough I guess.

  • @matthewbraith0411

    @matthewbraith0411

    Жыл бұрын

    You are the worst type of pokemon defender.

  • @TheYveltalKid
    @TheYveltalKid Жыл бұрын

    The problem is that you got Violet instead of Scarlet.

  • @wolfie766
    @wolfie766 Жыл бұрын

    thought i was watching a cyberpunk 2077 take xD

  • @vegeta2998
    @vegeta2998 Жыл бұрын

    I can understand the arguments you have said but do remember that BOTW was also released with a ton and I mean ton of glitches and exploits inside of its game. It has its own problems. The switch out of all the other systems is not a powerful system. Take RE6 port. Heard it is horrible. Or the jump Force that had to drop way down in graphics as well to run on Switch. Also BOTW and Pokemon were both in different devoploment times as well. Pokemon Violet, Scarlet about 2yrs. BOTW about what...7yrs or so? Not defending its problems cause I have dealt with the drop frames and also the game crashing so far once out of nowhere but we gotta remember that BOTW had a lot of more time to be made and still got released in a glitch mess.

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    I can see what you mean about BOTW having its own issues and more time for development. However, the game itself wasn't crashing or had constant optimization issues at launch.

  • @vegeta2998

    @vegeta2998

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ronald200in Oh I will not deny that at all just like to point out to some people who try to use BOTW for examples since it had a lot more time to be made. Not gonna lie or make up excuses about how poor it runs no matter how much I am enjoying the game in a whole.

  • @Levigumba
    @Levigumba Жыл бұрын

    Based Cynthia take

  • @yaggaman1914
    @yaggaman1914 Жыл бұрын

    as a guy that hate pokemon and like digimon... i am enjoying this because it gives more or a purpose then the dull crap these 12 years

  • @amygeer2217
    @amygeer2217 Жыл бұрын

    People are allowed to like and defend the games they love. I agree that the technical problems aren’t excusable but that shouldn’t ruin your overall enjoyment of the game.

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a fair point to look at it, there are games with *some* technical issues that I love such as the first Pikmin. However, having technical issues aren't excusable because of major and profitable Pokemon is as a game series. This is why I can find it hard to defend.

  • @brofessorbon
    @brofessorbon Жыл бұрын

    I feel people defend Pokémon because they have accepted that game freak will not put in the amount of heart they put in after DS era. But what you love the most is what you criticize brutally. Sadly Pokémon company has devolved into *insert I like money Mr.Krabs meme* knowing people will shovel out the money to buy it anyway and if it doesn’t sell well… then they will just copy and paste then call it a new game. I like the idea of what they were going with that they are finally branching out more (granted slowly) but they need to have more people on these projects and have more time. BOW has some minor frame rate issues but they are barely noticeable.

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree with your criticism part since there are things I love but also criticize (like the Chibi Robo series). Money is also a factor too, but there are gaming companies that both make a lot of money and create stable games (Level 5, HAL Laboratory, etc).

  • @wut.mimikyu8937
    @wut.mimikyu8937 Жыл бұрын

    highest grossing media franchise

  • @kooljokez
    @kooljokez Жыл бұрын

    no im going to keep defending it

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    I may need my Rathalos great sword for this.

  • @Heira
    @Heira Жыл бұрын

    Hmk I think scarlet violet should been out in January and delayed legends arceus idk what they thinking doing 2 games this year thr gamr is mostly likely legends arceus style lol I'm almost done with the pokedex also thr framerate is fine 😂 I love legends arceus but crud this gamr is a sequel quality life improvement to legends arceus but improved it I'm not defending it but it's the engine they are using I was totally right they were using legends arceus engine hahahaha u guys need to accept it also I think they will patch it next month or week after thanks giving also I barely have any issues at all today no big glitches lol just one crashed 😂

  • @fatnugs3925
    @fatnugs3925 Жыл бұрын

    I am not defending this game. There is glaring issues for sure and i do believe the game should not have released in this state. Saying thay im genuinely having fun playing it. I dont think its fair to blame game freak entirely. Have you actually seen how many devs gamefreak consists of? They split that in two so half could work on arceus and half could work on scarlet and violet. This is not enough devs man. Ontop of TPC aggressive marketing they have deadlines. Deadlines that must be kept from a buisness standpoint to keep merch flowing. I do really want better for pokemon games too but until they got more devs on the scene i dont think thats ever going to happen.

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    I've seen the number of employees too (169 I believe). It does suck that the Pokemon company put more time constraints on the developers when compared to the other studios that work at Nintendo. I will say that the Pokemon Company should get other development studios involved, like ones from Nintendo or even Genius Sonority (creators of the Pokemon Colosseum games).

  • @tripplordofinconvenience9953
    @tripplordofinconvenience9953 Жыл бұрын

    E

  • @espurrseyes42
    @espurrseyes42 Жыл бұрын

    Funny how PKMN and GamefrEAk gets away with doing literally anything any other game and game company would get BLASTED for. Cyberpunk was a mess? R-R-ROASTED! Pokemon is just as if not more messy? GIVE THEM A BREAK! THEY'RE A SMALL INDIE COMPANY! EVERYTHING WILL [not] BE FIXED WITH PATCHES! POKEMON WAS NEVER ABOUT GRAPHICS AND PERFORMANCE (it also never explicitly promised that as compensation for cutting over half the franchise's main form of content, the Pokemon).

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    Cyberpunk was a complete mess at the beginning for sure (even Playstation had to remove it from the PSN store). I wouldn't say that Scarlet and Violet are that low in terms of optimization.

  • @eddyd.newgate2073
    @eddyd.newgate2073 Жыл бұрын

    u probably thought Arcues was a good game Skull EMoji

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, it has a good catching mechanic as well as introducing a new status such as Frostbite and Snow rather than hail. Battle system wasn't the greatest.

  • @royukbien3738
    @royukbien3738 Жыл бұрын

    Wow no pokemon z cya in the next 10 or year's 12 when it comes It never going to happen

  • @jmashups6804
    @jmashups6804 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly Pokemom games still feel like they're catching up to games that came out 5 years ago. It's just a standard of quality that Nintendo can only get away with because of Pokemon's addicted built in fanbase.

  • @santinogoring8860
    @santinogoring8860 Жыл бұрын

    Breath of the wild's open world is dead tho so bad example

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't call it dead since you have the environment to interact with (Rune abilities, hideouts, side quests, taming horses, experimenting weapon combos, and more). Also, game doesn't put the Switch on life support when you're simply going through grass.

  • @santinogoring8860

    @santinogoring8860

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ronald200in It's a pretty passive open world, if it was more active i doubt breath of the wild could handle it, but I agree that Pokemon Scarlet/Violet is pretty bad even tho I haven't had any problems myself.

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    @@santinogoring8860 That's fair to say.

  • @orsonzedd
    @orsonzedd Жыл бұрын

    Ah ha it's you thats been forging those N-word passes!

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    My cover has been blow...

  • @Sakura_Sakamoto
    @Sakura_Sakamoto Жыл бұрын

    I agree there are issues with violet and scarlet But if you had to compare it to an open world game on the switch perhaps the most recent Xenoblade chronicles game would have been better instead of a game that was ported from the Wii U to the switch and I’d like to remind people that breath of the wild struggled with frame rate issues in the lost woods.

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    I do remember that being the case with Breath of the Wild with all the fog, but even then, simply going through grassy fields doesn't make the game lag. Xenoblade would of been another great example as the game doesn't really lag unless if there are many actions occurring at once.

  • @Sakura_Sakamoto

    @Sakura_Sakamoto

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ronald200in Fair points The lag in violet and scarlet is bad and it was wrong of to point the flaws of another game Just because these issues are in other switch games doesn’t justify them being in this games Games should build from each other and improve not get worse

  • @roxaskinghearts
    @roxaskinghearts Жыл бұрын

    i already called it on top of arcius was a more inspired game sadly

  • @birboii
    @birboii Жыл бұрын

    Most cringe video I've seen all day

  • @Ronald200in

    @Ronald200in

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I'm just built different.

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