They might have known, but they certainly did their best to spread misinformation about it through powerful lobbies.

@tolkienfan1972

15 күн бұрын

Also, they knew first and buried it

@davidanalyst671

15 күн бұрын

global warming is a lie taught to you by government scientists, the same ones that screamed about an Ozone hole, the same ones that said el nino is going to destroy america, the same ones that say storms are going to get worse even though hurricanes are still random. The same scientists that tell you to ignore how much debt the USA has... just ignore that and focus on global warming.

@hugonachname8431

15 күн бұрын

There was the global cooling scare story back in the 1970s. It wouldn't have made any sense at all to hide the warming effect then. Plus there were many very wrong predictions in the 70s, like "the population bomb" and running out of several metals.

@coolbanana165

15 күн бұрын

Yeah, Sabine is just spreading genocidal lies. Fossil fuel companies manipulated the public and bought off politicians so that they wouldn't act. That's not our fault, it's wealth being used to ruin politics and the planet. Honestly it's quite evil for her to ignore this.

@The-KP

15 күн бұрын

Very disturbing to find Sabine borderline shilling for Big Oil -- by mocking climate activists and downplaying what was known.

Systemic issues require systemic solutions, trying to fix them on individual level is foolish

@quinson93

15 күн бұрын

Boycott. Start local.

@Celticnot94

15 күн бұрын

I'll be quoting this, cheers

@robadkerson

15 күн бұрын

@@quinson93 That's their point. You can boycott all you want, but if our elected officials don't acknowledge the reality of the situation to cooperate on a federal level then it will not matter.

@MightyDrunken

15 күн бұрын

@@quinson93 That will only work if millions do it. That will only happen when collective action across many different groups occur. Really the answer is simple. We use our intelligence to predict the future, emitting 30 billion tonnes of CO2 per year will change the climate and damage the economy in a big way. Therefore we act upon our knowledge at every level. Instead we listen to money and put off the hard decisions. For short term gain and long term ruin.

@runenorderhaug7646

15 күн бұрын

True, but it is important to take a holistic in actually creating a solution. Within the the enviromental discourse we havent really been promoting a systemstic spproach as much as we have been promoting a effciency bssed approach and this may be harmful to the development of solutions thrmselves

I see no reason to be even remotely forgiving to the oil companies.

@vast634

14 күн бұрын

And still you are buying gas and enjoy the convenience of the modern industry ...

@oski6549

14 күн бұрын

@@vast634 you're literally that "you criticise society yet you partake in it" meme if you're not joking lol

@MimOzanTamamogullar

14 күн бұрын

​@@vast634That's because boomers are resisting nuclear energy for some inconceivable reason

@metagen77

14 күн бұрын

"I see no reason" You could have stopped right there.

@roadhaed

14 күн бұрын

@@vast634we live in car centric towns and cities where walking/public transit isn’t accessible or even possible in some areas. this is the kind of criticism presented by a 12 year old.

Stop blaming the industry that has lied and manipulated world politics and economic policy?

@wostin

13 күн бұрын

@@silikon2 How we call things most definitely have an impact on the attitude we have towards it. If it was called "destroy the planet juice" on all languages and all countries I think it is safe to assume many countries would've had a negative attitude towards it perhaps because of culture. Regardless, I understand the intention of the hyperbole but it's just not true that nothing would've changed when language is such an important part of civilization.

@NiekNooijens

12 күн бұрын

@@wostin I started calling it "dinosaur juice"

@wostin

12 күн бұрын

@@NiekNooijens Hahahaha, great name

@SigFigNewton

12 күн бұрын

It’s fine to point out that the appropriate approach is to reduce demand, but one would have to be a naive corporate simp to ignore how much effort the fossil fuel industry puts into keeping demand high.

@SigFigNewton

12 күн бұрын

Obstructing putting a price on carbon. Campaigns against green energy solutions. Vilification of EVs

the problem was not the fact that they were not sure, but the fact they lobbied against climate action, where a billion dollars a year investment would have gotten us to an entirely different point today.

@happyrascal1009

15 күн бұрын

+like tabacco n sugar

@jwatkins672012

15 күн бұрын

Bingo, bingo, not to mention that we could have been trying to mitigate the impact decades earlier!!!! Just letting the cat out of the bag would have brought attention to it decades earlier, but they chose to squash it, hide it, etc.

@Justin-jl3of

15 күн бұрын

Can you imagine if they had decided the be the face of the clean electric revolution instead and innovate in that direction, there are certainly billions of dollars to be made in clean energy as well, but their math suggested that it was more profitable to forestall changes, buy influence in governments, and misinform the public so they could simply continue to sell the product they already had, even though it's slowly making the planet less habitable and stable for every last one of us. The root of these sorts of issues seems to always come back to corporate greed and maximizing profits to the exclusion of everything else. That is the system that needs to be fixed that produces the results we're seeing.

@nuke___8876

15 күн бұрын

On the business side, the fact they these companies make a boatload of money and DONT invest AWAY from fossil fuels is immoral. If Exxon really wanted to, they could easily be the largest producer of wind turbines and solar panels in the USA or at the very least invest in companies that already make those products. However, their portfolio in the energy sector is 100% fossil fuels. If they did just 20% of that 20 years ago, the entire central USA would be 100% green energy and the coasts could be 50% of the way there.

@gracicot42

15 күн бұрын

Yes. They also made sure that everyone needed a car to survive, along with car companies, lobbying for building only car centric infrastructure, and destroying walkable neighbourhoods. Just to be sure everyone don't have choice but to buy fossil fuels.

I do not blame Exxon for continuing to sell their product toa willing public. What I DO blame them for is that, after their 1979 study, they adopted two different simultaneous approaches. Publicly they launched a campaign fighting against warnings about human induced climate change. But internally they launched a number of important, and expensive, upgrades to their infrastructure in preparation for those same climate changes. Notably deeping the foundations for their oil pipelines across areas of permafrost, which they knew would not be so frosty in the future.This was a literal example of hypocrisy, and future generations should damn them for that. If they had instead said "this is a problem and we need to start developing alternatives right now" they'd be seen as heroes in the future.

@QT5656

14 күн бұрын

Exactly!

@Mythhammer

14 күн бұрын

@kirkwagner461 No. The Climate Cult would have painted them as evil villains no matter what they did.

@MannyJer23

14 күн бұрын

The insane profits clouded their better judgement.

@Gregory-ue8ne

13 күн бұрын

OK, I get that human element, but consider this: what IF, the lead-out venture WAS electricity for motive power, say in 1919; instead of a report after the fact sixty years later?? Would the resultant actually be any different today? Maybe we'd be complaining about what had gone on with Lithium mining, or it's residual during manufacture, and all the while, considering that the wars still would have become, and maybe the bomb would have been more advanced, more damage?? We must move forward now; agree?

@QT5656

13 күн бұрын

@@Gregory-ue8ne Perhaps you should read project 2025 and look more closely into the history of Exxon, Chevron, Du Pont etc. The leaders of these corporations are sociopaths.

Politics is definitely not this channel's strong suit

In the 1920s public transportation was bankrupted in cities like Los Angeles, CA. by these companies. It wasn't just supply and demand.

@user-vl7vk3ne6y

14 күн бұрын

yes this is forgotten about and the last politician I heard that talked about viable free transportation for everybody was Ralph Nader 2004 candidate for Libertarian party. Uh Who is that - ya right who was that.

@brll5733

14 күн бұрын

London once had the most Trams in europe. Then some guy got on a committee who decided on buses. He owned a tire company.

@howtoappearincompletely9739

14 күн бұрын

@@ElonHusky Needless and irrelevant racism, that.

@alohamark3025

14 күн бұрын

We learned this information from, "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?". The reason that MAGA followers do not follow science is that they are illiterate in math. Their innumeracy makes them averse to equations or graphs.

@TheJerbol

14 күн бұрын

It's almost like every point she makes in this video can be easily refuted

I cant blame them for causing climate change, I can blame them for every step they taken since to make the situation worse, especially now as they know full well the impact and are still barely doing anything.

@Llortnerof

15 күн бұрын

Don't forget the steps taken to prevent improvement as well.

@taragnor

15 күн бұрын

Yeah, they've lobbied directly against fixing the problem, doing everything they can to make sure the government doesn't do what's best for the world and the entire human race to pad their bottom line. I absolutely blame them.

@FightTheByte_

15 күн бұрын

Actually, unlike the past, this is a misconception now. The biggest investors in green energy are the fossil fuel companies because they want to capture the market, as the transition occurs so that they can preserve their profit model.

@houstonisnotmyhome

15 күн бұрын

They're responding to their customers that want to buy their products. What's wrong with that? Should we regulate people's thinking, to force people to believe as you believe? Fascism?

@justhecuke

15 күн бұрын

​@@FightTheByte_ indeed. It's hard for me to take greenies seriously when they can't get basic facts correct and just go in with childish cartoon villain views of these companies. And they forget that pretty much every nation on Earth, especially the developing nations, aren't taking climate change seriously. It isn't the oil company's fault that that is happening. The simple practical reality of the situation means we have to adapt to, not stop, climate change. The only true viable alternative we have for scalable energy infrastructure is nuclear, and the greenies have alredy killed that. Hard to take them seriously when they caused one of the largest problems we currently face.

So, no science today then?

@unoriginalname4321

15 күн бұрын

A PhD means you're an expert in *everything*! I know this because I have a PhDuh.

@LuDux

15 күн бұрын

Boot licking is more profitable

@mba321

15 күн бұрын

When has it ever been, really?

@GreenyX1

14 күн бұрын

None, just more Climate Change bullocks. Funny thing is history records the opposite. Since the dust bowl of the 1930s the temps had been dropping and everyone and their dog were preaching the coming ice age and the global cooling apocalypse. I know cause I WAS THERE. The oil industry doesn't give a damn, if you think you're going to die in a freezing apocalypse the oil industry will come up with a scheme to make their product invaluable. That's what they did.

@pistachioshell

13 күн бұрын

no science, just waffling about personal responsibility in the face of the largest resource extraction conglomerates on the planet

Sabine, I like you, but I wouldn't have made this video. There's little doubt that they hid as much of this from the public as possible. I worked in that industry. They were in a state of denial because it would take away their power and influence. So, blaming us is clearly not the answer This would be one topic I would stay away from. Not worth tainting your positive influence in so many other areas.

@Dwarfurious

14 күн бұрын

Yeah i dont understand this video at all; its not like fossil fuel companies would choose to destroy their own company; ideally they would have pivoted to clean/renewable energy decades ago, then they'd be way ahead of their competition today and we'd all be better off.

@EclecticMystic

14 күн бұрын

Seriously, hearing her parrot oil lobby talking points is extremely disappointing. Pretending that individual actions is more responsible than an entire industry and their deliberate, overwhelming lobbying and marketing efforts is crazy.

@jeffbenton6183

14 күн бұрын

She already said all of that in the video, though.

@timothyrussell4445

14 күн бұрын

Well said!

@anarchy8968

14 күн бұрын

true, but even if the public knew their products would still be sold at the same pace. people simply need the gas to power their vehicles

I learned about Global Warming due to excess CO2 emissions as a young Boy Scout in the 1980’s. It was very widely known about and the overall mechanism is easy enough for a middle schooler to understand. The only unknown at that time was precisely “how soon?” and “how bad?” The only people questioning it were those who had vested interests in not dealing with it.

@nyali2

14 күн бұрын

Not true, CO2 absorption band has been 95% saturated. Read the IPCC report and you will see how much we contributed to forcing over the last 250 years. Politicians expect you not to read such data, mind you they don't read it either.

@le13579

12 күн бұрын

​@@nyali2 Exactly. It's pretty shocking how few people have read the technical report (of any of the ars).

@HuckelberryFriend

7 күн бұрын

Similar case. I learnt about Greenhouse effect, global warming (and overpopulation) at school in the late 90's. My mum and an architect designed the house I lived in for 20 years according to ecological standards in the mid 1980's. The information was there but big oil corporate ignored it because big bucks could be made. One thing I'm affraid of is that we may be changing big oil egoistic corporate by big electric egoistic corporate and have an allegedly greener energy produced by polluting machines of a different kind.

Idk sabine how are we supposed to compete with their lobbying powers? I can vote and beg for change and nothing happens. I do what I can with the pennies I own but at the end of the day no difference is made.

@kaasmeester5903

15 күн бұрын

I don't blame the oil companies for not telling us about the dangers with fossil fuels, it was not like it was some deep dark secret. We all knew all along that burning that stuff was bad, we just didn't realize the extent of the damage. And even now, where climate change permeates every single aspect of our lives, it is hard to get people to change habits. What I do blame them for, is that they have lobbied heavily against nuclear power, even funding environmental groups that are opposed to it. If we had a good nuclear industry, we might be in far better shape to fix the climate.

@leesmith2347

15 күн бұрын

It’s a democracy, so whilst you may be voting for the Green Party or similar, most don’t. Several governments have pushed green agenda’s only to be punished at the polls/voting stations for the real or perceived impacts on the economy, their wealth or their precious neighbourhood. When Sabine say’s we share responsibility that doesn’t mean every individual, just the vast majority…..there are a lot of folk probably commenting on these threads on how it’s not their fault. But I wonder how many have a long commute, own more than one car, purchase non-locally, etc, etc…..

@MattAngiono

15 күн бұрын

Capitalism will consume everything

@jacobohnstad4432

15 күн бұрын

@@leesmith2347 well the "vast majority" are completely impoverished. The fault scales with wealth for sure.

@Ancor3

15 күн бұрын

The problem is that most people chose not to vote for parties/policies that could've diminished the impact of climate change. The economy or personal freedom were deemed to be more important by votes

This "personal responsibility" propaganda doesn't help systemic changes. That's why we have nations that should oversee private companies, not the other way around. Our personal choices will not impact global worming as much as fair and targeted legislation.

@eclectichoosier5474

15 күн бұрын

Nobody's choices will impact global warming any more than the dinosaurs' decisions impacted it when the climate changed millions of years ago. Or the assorted microbes' decisions impacted it when the climate changed a billion or so years ago. Or any of the thousands of other times it has changed.

@johnbrobston1334

14 күн бұрын

In a democracy our personal choices determine who creates that legislation. Sorry, you don't get to duck responsibility by blaming the government.

@KateeAngel

14 күн бұрын

​@@johnbrobston1334 delusional

@froukehermens2176

14 күн бұрын

I am masking. Why is the virus still raging and still causing long Covid? Personal responsibility is exactly what governments use to make sure nothing is done.

@rhetorical1488

14 күн бұрын

@@johnbrobston1334 which road did you glue yourself to this week?

I’m not buying it. Took a college physics course in 1979 ‘Energy and the Environment’. So many of the impacts we are seeing today, were foreseen and written about in the class textbook. Wouldn’t surprise me at all, if much of the science used in the book, came from the fossil fuel industry research. They researched, they wrote about it and then they abruptly shut that whole trajectory down, or at least removed it from public view. Then they started heavily fostering and promoting ‘science’ completely antithetical to what they’d already discovered and the Climate Denial movement was born. Fully delivered and nurtured by the fossil fuel industry. I have been totally aware and warning friends and family, for decades, about what we could expect to see, if we would not curb our use of fossil fuels. Of course, everyone thought I was cuckoo. And now, here we are. Everything I learned about in that 1979 textbook and more-so. It even talked about possible mitigation scenarios, and why they were unlikely to be feasible. (Reflective panels on satellites orbiting the Earth and similar things.) I still have that textbook. The fossil fuel industry is guilty. I do acknowledge, however, that humans would in fact continue to purchase the stuff, even if the barrels were marked, ‘toxic, planet-killing chemicals’. There’s no getting around human nature.

@timothyrussell4445

14 күн бұрын

Perfectly put

@RooDawson

14 күн бұрын

I agree with you 100%. I remember back in the 1980s scientists were predicting pretty much exactly what we here in Canada have seen: cloudy, mild winters instead of severely cold but clear days. Spring is very short and temperatures are incredibly hot. Just last year, there was a day when Canada had the hottest day on record in the world. Ya, the world. Hotter than Utah, Saudi Arabia, India, Australia or anyplace else. We're talking over 50C. The weather disasters we are experiencing were all predicted back then. Floods, extreme heat, and so on. There are places in the arctic where the permafrost is actually melting. And polar bears are seen further and further south from their proper habitat because of the lack of sea ice for them to use for hunting. The climate change over the last century certainly seems to coincide with the use of fossil fuels. What do people typically do when someone suggests their cash-cow might be causing a problem? They say "Pfff. That's not true. We have another scientist who says otherwise." People just don't want to admit that when you give stewardship of any natural resource to people whose goal in life is to become wealthy, you're not going to get good stewardship. When the resource ceases to provide the desired numbers in the black, it's dropped and other people have to deal with the ensuing problems. The 1% have an army of mouthpieces to plead their cases. When that doesn't work, they threaten governments with taking their business elsewhere, putting masses of people out of work and causing social unrest.

@Reotha

13 күн бұрын

So what's your solution?

@albertoandrade9807

13 күн бұрын

Name of the book and author?

@Gregory-ue8ne

13 күн бұрын

Yes, human nature; consider THAT as your thesis; and what could be beyond the minds of Men; but to imagine the abyss...

Awww poor companies that destroy the world get critizized unfairly. You're really fighting the good fight here Sabine...

@timothyrussell4445

14 күн бұрын

Well said!

@TheJerbol

14 күн бұрын

She's a mega-capitalist

@QT5656

13 күн бұрын

@@sambolt8659 She's twerking to enlightened centrists for a few more subs. 🙄

@mikalzanna2076

13 күн бұрын

@@silikon2 "sounds pretty honest to me" is very convincing

@andreimustata5922

12 күн бұрын

@@TheJerbol No she is not. She is just wrong here, maybe you could say she is not a good commentator of social realities. It is very far from her expertise anyway.

Sabline, you forgot 1979’s Charney report that compared 3 models (UKMO, NCAR and MPI-M), and came to the same conclusion in 3 of them. And plenty of others that appeared in this period, like Our Common Future. Unlike many other actors, fossil fuel industry has lots of money and therefore lots of power to buy political inaction. They are are totally to blame.

@colinmacdonald5732

15 күн бұрын

The billionaire class tend to lean to the left and thrown millions into Green lobbying, ExxonMobil on the other has to find and produce oil and doesn't have quite as much cash left over to buy governments.

@okerror1451

14 күн бұрын

that's a good point. @Sabine maybe this is a very argument. And also please remember that, if there are no viable options, because of political inaction, then what can we actually do ?

@jorgeluis4389

14 күн бұрын

I was a kid back then, but as far as I remember the scare was about the next ice age.

@jameshoiby

14 күн бұрын

@@jorgeluis4389 This. I fully remember the "coming ice age".

@pridefulobserver3807

14 күн бұрын

No, you are, you are using energy produced with fossil ful, direcylty or indirectly, to writte that, IT ALL HUMAN NEEDS FAULT

Whenever it comes to political analysis, this suddenly stops being a smart channel

@robotron26

15 күн бұрын

Agreed, Sabine has an oddly pro capitalism pov sometimes The fossil fuel industry is responsible because they have the power With great power comes great responsibility, that doesnt stop with spiderman

@idonotlikethismusic

15 күн бұрын

She wouldn’t be the first scientist with a bad take on political and social issues

@stevenblack7928

15 күн бұрын

I totally agree. For me this video is almost reason to unsubscribe from her channel

@valcaron

15 күн бұрын

Thanks for the in-depth analysis, you really showed her with your hot argument.

@fhm21

15 күн бұрын

She is right. People can make so many personal changes to help the planet but nobody cares. Convenience always wins.

Oh, Sabine, come on. What was that even about? Whom to blame? I remember the 80ies and 90ies very well. Everybody knew, but just as today, nobody wanted to take action.

@duncanskertchly7365

14 күн бұрын

Yes, if they'd put this result on the front of every newspaper on the planet it would have made no difference. As soon as people learned that the solution was putting an end to constantly increasing energy consumption and therefore stagnating, or declining living standards they'd soon forget about it.

@pgress1867

14 күн бұрын

@@duncanskertchly7365 it would have been nice if they started investing into PV and Batteries earlier, the cost curve has decreased dramatically. That curve 30 years earlier would have made an impact. However, industrially produced meat, concrete and cement production, cutting down rainforests after the forests in Europe have been depleted and so forth, takes it toll as well. We are basically eating up the surface of the planet.

@merrymachiavelli2041

14 күн бұрын

@@pgress1867 There is also a bit of hindsight in this. While PV may have been a promising technology in the 90s, technology and the energy sector specifically if littered with promising technologies that, for whatever reason, _don't_ experience the curve reduction. Picking the winning horse can be difficult, although more investment across-the-board would have helped.

@pgress1867

14 күн бұрын

@@merrymachiavelli2041 a lot of taxpayer money goes into all kinds of stuff, mostly into war, but also in Sabine‘s favorite nuclear power. Fission or fusion you need to boil water (or salt) to get the heat produced to be converted into electricity. I mean A LOT of taxpayer’s money. A fraction of that would have done the job. And still the lobbies keep on fighting not for the greater good, but for their business.

@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo

14 күн бұрын

There were higher priorities, like avoiding a nuclear holocaust.

I hope that the word "our" point to the minority of elites.

@dasstigma

13 күн бұрын

Obviusly. Because there is no way in hell that anything you do might even be considered "not ideal". Thank you for being awesome.

It was a big fight to get rid of leaded petrol. Tens of millions children poisened. Do not underestimate the inmate criminal nature of big companies executives. The smart but strongest and meanest make it to the top preferentially. A law of nature.

@notanemoprog

15 күн бұрын

"Tens of millions children poisened." [citation needed] "A law of nature." [citation needed]

@vladcraioveanu233

15 күн бұрын

definitely nothing to do with "smart" but mostly lucky heritage

@jameshowe8965

15 күн бұрын

Smoking was not considered dangerous by the medical professionals. Insight is great .

@hitlist2105

15 күн бұрын

🤡​@@notanemoprog

@lakingpaul

15 күн бұрын

@@notanemoprog Citation easily found for the first point if you take 5 seconds.

One of the main reasons why we have done far too little to combat climate change so far is that governments are reluctant to take action. And this is heavily influenced by Big Oil lobbying.

@the_forbinproject2777

15 күн бұрын

codswallop - where's you big idea to stop the big five CO2 emitters? India recently announced $33bn new coal fired power .

@johncoffey1483

15 күн бұрын

The board room event of suggesting we should save the planet by bankrupting the company shouldnt be implausible. Wealthy companies have the resources to diversify quite easily. Is that what will happen with AI well it might end us but think of the profits to be made. We need to hold companies to account for ill effects they cause.

@rcmnet

15 күн бұрын

​@@the_forbinproject2777 Omg we didn't know about India, that changes everything. We should abandon asap any effort to reduce greenhouse gases globally in this case.

@crissd8283

15 күн бұрын

Also, people don't want to give up their lifestyle. To seriously reduce carbon emissions (without a large amount of nuclear) we all must take a large cut in our lifestyle. You don't want to, so we continue to do very little.

@Imaboss8ball

15 күн бұрын

​@@the_forbinproject2777 we could have invested in solar and nuclear a lot more significantly if we knew the stakes. These investments in those technologies would have spilled out to 3rd world nations.

Bad product, bad lobbying, false advertising. I would say they have a great deal of responsibility.

@luck484

7 күн бұрын

Be that as it may...I am wondering if you have any guidance on producing a way forward. SH said Germany is planning to build electricity generation plants that burn either natural gas and hydrogen. I think its a good idea. I think using Hydrogen as an energy carrier is a good idea, although SH seems to disagree.

My uncle worked in the oil industry as a chemist in the 1970s and '80s. He told me in about 1985 about how burning fuel was going to make the world hotter. I believe the oil industry knew their product would warm the world, I don't believe they knew that would be a bad thing. What they should be punished for is the deliberate misinformation when science learned what global warming would do.

You have to admit one thing: The "individual carbon footprint" (ingeniously invented by BP in the 1980s) was a perfect way to shift all the blame from big industry to the end customers. Politicians immediately jumped on the bandwagon and passed laws to put the evil consumer in his place and talk him into his conscience. And now we sit here, sipping our paper straws, grumbling about the airplanes and feeling like the wokest saviors of the world - while big industry carries on exactly as it did in the 1980s - apart from the fact that they make many times more profit today. Congratulations.

@takanara7

14 күн бұрын

plastic straws literally have nothing to do with climate change either, I kind of think it's like a distraction thing, like, a completely pointless change that just annoys people far more then any positive effect. It's not even helpful for the ocean plastic problem since it's not like people are throwing their used straws in rivers (most ocean plastic enters the ocean from Asia)

@solandri69

14 күн бұрын

I don't think you understand how economics works. Blaming "big industry" is disingenuous. As long as customers continue to buy and consume oil, nothing the individual oil companies do* makes a difference. If BP had decided to become a saint in the 1980s and completely stopped oil production, as long as consumer demand for oil did not change, the only thing that would've happened is that BP would've lost market share. And the decrease in their oil production would've been canceled out by an increase in production by other oil companies. Resulting in no net change in total oil consumption. Even if every oil company had "seen the light" and stopped oil production, as long as there was still consumer demand they would've just been replaced by new companies which would've eagerly taken over the market and pumped oil to satisfy that demand. The main cause of our inaction is this silly insistence on viewing "big industry" or "the market" as a singular entity, acting with a single will. They're not. They're lots of individual entities each acting independently. Any analysis or solution which assumes they act like a singular entity is naive and fundamentally flawed. (On a more abstract level, increasing consumption works best by increasing supply. Reducing consumption works best by decreasing demand. When you try to increase consumption by increasing demand, prices go out of whack like has happened with college tuitions. When you try to reduce consumption by decreasing supply, prices again go out of whack resulting in more suppliers entering the market to take advantage of those high prices.) * Lobbying for/against alternative energy production being an obvious exception.

@blinded6502

14 күн бұрын

​@@solandri69Consumers cant stop consuming oil as long as everything on the market is made from that oil instead of its economically less viable alternatives

@zen1647

14 күн бұрын

Just remember the greenhouse gas footprint of not voting for green energy.

@Julia-hf9yk

14 күн бұрын

@@solandri69 Try to get rid of Oil in your consumer live. It is impossible, as long as you don't want to live in the wilderness. Good Luck.

Considering that roughly half of the human-emitted CO2 was emitted in the last 30 years, if we had gotten a 20-year head start in the matter of CO2, we'd probably be on a more hopeful track lol.

@dmitripogosian5084

15 күн бұрын

40 years ago we had half of the current population on Earth, with many living in rather pre-industrial societies. Not surprising we emitted half of CO2 in the last 30 years which uplifted much of the older population and all newborn one.

@Naptosis

15 күн бұрын

@@dmitripogosian5084 There's still billions of people in India and China waiting their turn to bring their CO² emissions up to par with the West.

@zyeborm

14 күн бұрын

@@dmitripogosian5084 I don't think they are suggesting population growth isn't an issue (it's one of the largest) but that the trajectory could have been different. Especially for nations developing now they could potentially have skipped the whole fossil fuel stage and jump straight to cheaper greener power sources. But due to the lack of action in R&D we are still 20 years away from achieving parity with fossil fuels. Rather than it being off the shelf.

@nyali2

14 күн бұрын

And it has only contributed 1,8W/m2, so we are more than fine. Plants are happy though.

@eiwo323s

14 күн бұрын

But it remains unclear which CO2 contributed to the rise in global temperatures. Because even if the world goes green it will still take 40 More years for the trend to stop in addition to natural warming and cooling patterns of the earth. We can't even produce data showing how 2020 caused a reduction in temperature.

How can we not blame them for knowing, intentionally hiding this information, and then profiting off the slow doom of our planet for decades?

@thomasmaughan4798

13 күн бұрын

"How can we not blame them" There is no WE. You choose who to blame, and for what; not that doing so accomplishes much but might make you feel good.

@benediktzoennchen

12 күн бұрын

@@thomasmaughan4798 What a stupid argument. Playing stupid and saying that we should not point out problems because it is somehow a selfish act.

@thomasmaughan4798

12 күн бұрын

@@benediktzoennchen "Playing stupid and saying that we should not point out problems" There is no WE. Problems exist only when a person is obstructed from accomplishing a goal. The best place to look for problems is inward toward self; why do you want to do something that someone else is either blocking or at least failing to enhance your progress? So, when you *point out a problem* you are revealing your inability to do something; and maybe someone else will help you, but it is not guaranteed that someone will help you with problems you point out.

@TheBigboom707

11 күн бұрын

​@@thomasmaughan4798what are you on about? Of course there is a we. Are you saying the whole field of sociology should not exist because "there is no we"? Obviously these companies have profited off of misleading masses of individuals (read: US). So it's only right the these mislead individuals (read: WE) hold them accountable.

@ragnaarminnesota6703

11 күн бұрын

You can not blaming them by not being stupid. You used fossils. You. You caused climate change. Don't try to blame others.

This is just the carbon footprint repackaged

@captsorghum

7 күн бұрын

So what about the idea of a carbon footprint do you find illegitimate? Should people not take responsibility for their own lifestyle choices?

Not act despite uncertainty? They certainly did act, creating massive amounts of deceptions, stating oppositions and lies over decades and somehow making us collectively forget Carl Sagan's testimony in 1985? We can and should put the blame on companies that are by all means innocent, yet often end up looking troublingly guilty.

@thomasmaughan4798

15 күн бұрын

"collectively forget Carl Sagan's testimony in 1985?" Not many of "us" alive in 1985. Who is Carl Sagan? "Carl Edward Sagan (November 9, 1934 - December 20, 1996) was an American astronomer, planetary scientist, and science communicator. *His best known scientific contribution is his research on the possibility of extraterrestrial life* "

@fungussa

15 күн бұрын

Sabine is on the wrong side here, and many times before. What on earth motivates her to promote fossil fuel apologist arguments?

@175griffin

14 күн бұрын

Climate Town did a great video on the reality of this situation. The fossil fuel companies actively acted out of malice. They continue to deceive the public to this day. If people were aware of this, policy and regulations would be decades ahead by now. Sabina argues to say if these companies were honest, they would go under and others would take their place. But she also says people would have bought it either way. It can't be both, and she completely ignores the effect of politics. What the hell is this video? Is Sabine dumb?

@rhetorical1488

14 күн бұрын

@@fungussa because lunatic stop oil present no rational facts or arguments.

@homebrewfeverdreams

14 күн бұрын

@@fungussa Anyone else noticing the desperate slide Sabine is on? I'm half expecting her to start explaining how "eugenics has some practical benefits." I truly think her family may need an intervention.

The problem was that if they hadn't done so much to hide the reality of anthropogenic climate change, we might have begun to do something about it earlier. As for Exxon, the company has reportedly drawn up plans to _exploit_ global warming by going after Arctic oil which would become accessible due to glacial melting.

@eclectichoosier5474

15 күн бұрын

You use the word "reality" as though it is a given. It is not.

@andrasbiro3007

14 күн бұрын

@@marcosolo6491 Nuclear would have been plenty enough. Also we could have accelerated the development of green technologies, like solar panels and electric cars. The proof that it could have been done is first the General Motors EV1, and then Tesla. The EV1 was the result of a California mandate, which was reversed after a lot of lobbying, and GM proceeded to recall and destroy all cars. But it was too late, it proved that practical electric cars are possible, so a lot of tinkerers started to build their own. Then came Tesla and turned it into a real car company. To this day only Tesla is making money on electric cars, and everyone else is still looking for the tiniest excuse to go back making ICE. If Tesla somehow disappeared, all traditional manufactures would kill their EVs instantly. The other proof is China. They invested enormous amount of resources into renewable energy and electric cars (they learned from Tesla), to get ahead of the west. Without dirt cheap Chinese solar panels and wind turbines we would still burning coal and wouldn't have much hope. China also dominates battery manufacturing, and even research. That also drastically accelerated the transition to sustainable energy. So, we could have got there faster with the right investments. Of course a lot of other tech had to be developed too, to enable these, but could have done that too. We could be like 10-20 years ahead with a reasonable effort.

@JoeSchmoe-lq1uo

14 күн бұрын

@@marcosolo6491 All of this 100%. Some comedian recently joked that if solving global warming was as easy as giving up the TV remote control, the world would burn with everyone refusing to walk 5 steps to change the channel. Humanity values convenience over everything and convenience is almost always energy intensive.

@TheJT00001

14 күн бұрын

I bet you got a spelling error for the word "anthropogenic" ... even KZread realizes it's a hoax and scam 🤣🤣🤣

@ericlipps9459

14 күн бұрын

@@TheJT00001 Actually, no. It's a real word, and anthropogenic (human-caused) climate change is accepted as real by the vast majority of scientists.

Is this satire? I came away believing they are even more culpable than I first thought!

@katrinam6795

14 күн бұрын

I was waiting for the video to be satire tbh

OK so we all share responsibility for climate changes. But it is the oil and gas company administrators who were and are the only people who will say anything to deceive and slow the call to change our habits.

"Devised in the 1950s and ’60s, the tobacco industry's strategy was embodied in a script written by the lawyers. Every tobacco company executive in the public eye was told to learn the script backwards and forwards, no deviation was allowed. The basic premise was simple-smoking had not been proved to cause cancer. Not proven, not proven, not proven-this would be stated insistently and repeatedly. Inject a thin wedge of doubt, create controversy, never deviate from the prepared line. It was a simple plan and it worked." - David Aaron Kessler, "A Question of Intent: A Great American Battle with a Deadly Industry."

@thomasmaughan4798

15 күн бұрын

"The basic premise was simple-smoking had not been proved to cause cancer" That is still the case. It enhances the probability of developing cancer. But it does not CAUSE cancer.

@orionbetelgeuse1937

15 күн бұрын

even if the smoking has decreased a lot in some countries there is still lung cancer, the smoking increases the risk of getting cancer but it is not a causal link the same way there is a link between asbestos and mesotelioma.

@Naptosis

15 күн бұрын

@@thomasmaughan4798 The DNA damage done by consuming tobacco _does cause cancer._ Just because it doesn't cause unfettered cancer 100% of the time, does not mean it doesn't cause cancer.

@fungussa

15 күн бұрын

@@thomasmaughan4798 Science cannot 'prove' anything, as proofs are the exclusive domain of mathematics and deductive reasoning. Though proofs are not required to justify policy, as good policy adopts the precautionary principle, that's why underage drinking is not allowed - but you'll probably so that there's no 'proof' that it would be a problem.

@NikitOS-vv4ks

15 күн бұрын

@@thomasmaughan4798 I'm sure it is possible to make the same type of excuse for nearly everything. Old people don't die of old age, they die of [insert every cause of death possible]. You'd say something like that if you were selling pills that make people old. The thing is that using such logic and loopholes to sell a sense of product safety is clearly a malign manipulation. In fact, there's a GREENE v. PHILIP MORRIS USA INC (2023) case. The court's decision has one thing you may find interesting: "Further, Philip Morris does not dispute the evidence of medical causation, i.e., that smoking causes the type of cancer from which Greene suffered."

"If I would not have done it, someone else would have done it" will also be the excuse when someone finally produces an AI that tries to remove us from this planet for it's own unknowable reasons ...

@symmetrie_bruch

12 күн бұрын

absolutely, also what you would say after having launched your nukes at the rest of the world

When the climate goes to poop, which individual company was to blame would be of little relevance. But similarly, to blame individuals for not "dusting their solar panel" cells enough is equally asinine. There needs to be a global systemic change, unfortunately, game over for the current system, or game over for humanity.

@Gregory-ue8ne

13 күн бұрын

George Carlin!

Never owned nor drove any auto mobile for 40 years. I'm not to blame.

@WouterCloetens

13 күн бұрын

And you’ve never owned anything made of, or packaged in plastic. You’ve never burned a candle, or eaten fruit covered in a wax layer to slow decay. You’ve never chewed gum. You haven’t used electricity. You never bought anything that was transported. You’ve never heated your home. You never ate food that was produced using tractors and artificial fertiliser.

@youchwb6005

13 күн бұрын

@@WouterCloetens So I take it, all my existence should have been nothing but standing naked in a field like a scarecrow? Talk about taking someone's comment out of context, I can't fooking believe someone could be so dumb.

@WouterCloetens

8 күн бұрын

@@youchwb6005 You said "I'm not to blame" because you don't use a car. Yet you use oil-based products all the time, many of which end up getting burned or slowly degrade in a landfill.

Lobbying and propaganda is the issue. We still have a large percentage of the population in the USA regurgitating what Exxon has fed them decades ago. Look at the exponential growth and cost reduction of solar and batteries. We could have been where we're at 10-20 years ago, if it weren't for lobbyists drowning out any attempts at progress.

@annoyingcommentator1582

15 күн бұрын

Not that would change that it's unreliable and the current materials used for batteries have limits that will keep them from ever making wind and solar viable, but I'd like to look at that, yes. Source?

@yanniammari1491

15 күн бұрын

I can assure you that solar and modern battery capacity would not have come 10 years earlier no matter the budget its def one of the things that we did really well as humans especially for batteries

@paulsnow

15 күн бұрын

No evidence exists to think we could have progressed batteries any faster than we did. The applications for better cheaper batteries has always been there, and zero people were pushing back on better batteries.

@user-po1jm1eo6p

15 күн бұрын

spot on

@user-po1jm1eo6p

15 күн бұрын

spot on

There is one thing, we can't blame oil companies for: wanting to make money. But there are at least two major reasons that make them responsible for quite a nig part of the mess we're in: 1. Paying and influencing governments not to take action to systemic changes that lead to lessen the dependence of fossil fuels 2. Actively deceiving and gaslighting the public by inventing climate myths, with the personal "carbon footprint". The latter led to major conflicts between people on the whole political spectrum. Environmentalists who believe, the every small personal action counts and shaming people who are "not doing their part" and people who don't care about the environment who feel pressured and blame the environmentalists for their problems. Very machiavellian.

@VoidFame

15 күн бұрын

think you mean "big"

@jojojo9240

15 күн бұрын

smart comment

@veronikakerman6536

15 күн бұрын

Why we can't blame oil companies for wanting to make (more) money? Greed is a sin, isn't it? They are not the only ones to be blamed tho. And blaming anyone does not make the problem any less bad.

@lawrenceksyahoocom

15 күн бұрын

Nobody makes me buy a gallon of gasoline. That's on me. And if the "the people" choose to dramatically reduce their carbon footprint, no one can stop them from significantly reducing carbon emissions.

@Sciller4

15 күн бұрын

Good thing you misspelled "big", and not "bigger".

Sabine, you missed the point, They(oil companies) should have been investing aggressively in sustainable technologies rather than continue exploring so feverishly and increasingly pushing their "planet wrecking juice" and spending more and more on lobbying.

We shouldn't have allowed a government that permits lobbying. We should have refreshed the tree long ago.

@ExistenceUniversity

14 күн бұрын

Your government representative shouldn't be allowed to be a representative?

@billmosby673

14 күн бұрын

First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Except scientists knew this in the 19th century from studying the burning of coal in the UK 100 years before Exxon scientists supposedly figured it out. These corporations knew full well they were externalizing the real cost of doing business.

@thomasmaughan4798

15 күн бұрын

"These corporations knew full well they were externalizing the real cost of doing business." Yes. I learned these principles in economics class. So what?

@RobertJordan-hi4ur

15 күн бұрын

@@thomasmaughan4798 you probably studied economics in the days before business schools also had courses in ethics.

@Naptosis

15 күн бұрын

@@thomasmaughan4798 _So_ lying to the public, sacrificing future generations' welfare, and the welfare of all the other creatures on this planet, _to hoard wealth from short-term financial profits,_ is a grave act of hubris that should be punished and not repeated.

@orionbetelgeuse1937

15 күн бұрын

They didn't really knew, many people made climate studies in the 19th century yet only the study of mr Arrhenius is being cited because it has the right conclusions. Yet at the time mr Arrhenius was making his model the Stephan-Boltzmann law was still in the research. So, without this important law mr Arrhenius managed to make the right conclusions or is just by chance?

@RobertJordan-hi4ur

15 күн бұрын

@@orionbetelgeuse1937 what degree of knowledge constitutes “really knowing”. The point I make is Exxon scientists can’t claim to have discovered something other scientists already have tested. They can only publish results of experiments with data to be verified in peer review by other scientists for testing.

Bloody hell. I get blamed for everything.

@VeteranVandal

14 күн бұрын

It's the trick. Blame yourself so you don't break capitalism.

@MimOzanTamamogullar

14 күн бұрын

​@@VeteranVandalFriendly reminder that Sabine here is a proponent of capitalism

@Jeff-tt7wj

14 күн бұрын

@@MimOzanTamamogullarSo are you

@geoffhaylock6848

14 күн бұрын

@@VeteranVandal Capitalism has always been broke. But so long as it is more broke for others we don't care!!!

@gothoverheaven6239

11 күн бұрын

@@Jeff-tt7wj no, we are proletariat. we are proponents no more than cogs are parts of a much larger machine.

I implore anybody reading this comment to watch the documentary, The Lost Century (and how to reclaim it). It eloquently describes how even something as a better carburetor or a better solar panel is suppressed, confiscated, bought out, or tied up in litigation. Everybody who comes up with an ingenious invention thinks they can be the next Rockefeller of energy, but they don't understand the monster they are going up against. Nobody can come out with a better mousetrap and expect to patent it. In 1951 legislation was passed stating any technology that threatens the national security or the economy of the United States can be slapped with a secrecy order, legally. Research what the Pogue carburetor did to oil prices in the 30s. Prices collapsed. Is this exact type of thing that they are guarding against.

Right after school I made a presentation about climate change back in 1991 in front of a foundation for scholarships. How come I knew it and the well funded fossil industries didn't?

@le13579

12 күн бұрын

Because Al Gore testified to Congress about it in the late 80s.

It's the coverup of the information that makes them culpable.

@junkahoolik

15 күн бұрын

what coverup? i'm almost 40 now and i've been hearing that global warming (not climate change) is real for decades now. as long as the public keeps trying to blame companies for wanting cheap oil products nothing will change. and guess what, nothing will change

@homebrewfeverdreams

14 күн бұрын

and the true harm of their coverup was the "other siding." Their misinformation prevented consensus from forming in the public.

@PacesIII

14 күн бұрын

@@homebrewfeverdreams That and giving Trump and MAGA all that oxygen.

@eadweard.

14 күн бұрын

​@@PacesIIII think these are more your own ideological preoccupations than anything else.

@PacesIII

14 күн бұрын

@@eadweard. Seems pretty evident. Did you see the vultures at the White House presser the other day?

Oil companies are guilty of covering up their knowledge of climate change and spending billions to prevent the implementation of climate solutions. And regarding the consumer's responsibility, this is a *_collective action problem_* like the Prisoners Dilemma. It's not exactly the public's fault. An individual has very little opportunity to do anything about climate change.

There are not too many things that do not have a fossil fuel connection. Manufacturing, processing, transportation, energy, communications, plastics, heating, cooling, cooking. The list is endless.

@edg42

14 күн бұрын

👍

I didn't do nothing about climate change, and I couldn't do, I'm just a powerless individual. The fact that oil companies knew the consequences and didn't act accordingly in position of power and lobby speaks for itself

@symmetrie_bruch

12 күн бұрын

i mean it´s also really not putins fault if you look at it from sabines pov, it´s our fault for not infiltrating his inner circle and putting him down, obviously

Sorry Sabine. I think you and your team did not think this video through. It falls into the same kind of blaming scheme as they have used for a long time. You could have explained the same facts in a much better fashion. Because yes, we can blame them and yes they are mostly responsible for the mess we're in.

@thomasmaughan4798

15 күн бұрын

Always blame someone. Doesn't matter who; doesn't matter what. Just be sure you don't blame yourself or your friends. Pick a boogeyman; Orange Man Bad for instance. Oh, but now there's two orange men. Oh well.

@caioporto9234

15 күн бұрын

​@thomasmaughan4798 If you want to fall for their PR in that you're to blame, be my guest. Sorry if I bursted your bubble. If that's not the case, there are plenty of resources here in YT where you could educate yourself as climate town. Perhaps take the chance ;).

@fungussa

15 күн бұрын

Her video today is so misleading, that I have no choice but to unsubscribe.

@thomasmaughan4798

15 күн бұрын

@@caioporto9234 "Sorry if I bursted your bubble. " You overestimate your influence ;-) "there are plenty of resources here in YT" And at least half of it is just plain wrong and that's before it gets all Scientific.

@erikred8217

15 күн бұрын

Clearly she has become a cynical comment muck stirring troll. Or She is that cynical and believes that big rich liars should get a pass and we should blame ourselves for their crimes. Same diff. Sad really.

Personal co2 footprint is a term popularised by the fossil industry - and that isn’t a debatable crazy thing - it was made and paid by the industry.

It's Human Nature to procrastinate until it's almost too late, then finally do something.

Next week on Sabine Hossenfelder : "Big pharma 'aint so bad after all".

@useodyseeorbitchute9450

15 күн бұрын

Well, last season anyone who dared to have any doubt about them was anti-science...

@Naptosis

15 күн бұрын

"There's *no* conclusive causation between rampant 0pıate prescription and fent addiction!" ☝️🤓

@timothyrussell4445

14 күн бұрын

LOL! Richard Sackler was only trying to rid the world of pain...

@le13579

12 күн бұрын

As a cancer patient, I'd say the world isn't back and white.

wowza, that was a painfully short sighted take from someone I didn't expect it from. Or is it just a new sponsorship agreement?

@lomiification

14 күн бұрын

It's the same curmudgeon view she's got on everything. Being contrarian means that folks in the know see the issues, and people outside see "a breath of fresh air" The more you know, the worse you think of contrarians

@landox

14 күн бұрын

This video is basically a tautological breakdown of the concept of “responsibility”. Like sure she’s technically “right” but seriously what’s the point of posting this? Just to be a contrarian?

@michaelbarker6460

14 күн бұрын

We know better than we ever have about climate change but at least for those in the US there is a growing narrative that things are getting more expensive and people are becoming poorer than ever because its hard to afford what many consider the "bare essentials". However right now the US is at a nearly all time high for per capita consumption in not just the country's history but all of world history for any significantly large population group ever. The US storage market is booming more than it ever has because despite the average american having more square footage per person than ever before we still need more space to store all of the stuff that we own but don't use.

@oski6549

14 күн бұрын

@@lomiification What makes this so bad is that looking at society as a whole, outside of the bubble that watches science news, this is not even a contrarian take but more or less the average opinion...

@SynthAir

12 күн бұрын

​@@michaelbarker6460 I am no expert, but the financial climate for consumers is a complex one, and while there are many contributing factors, the difficulties faced by many cannot be blamed in particular on overconsumption. Wages, and in particular the real value of the minimum wage, has not kept pace with rising costs. The cost of essentials such as groceries and utilities have also outpaced wage growth. Additionally, the cost of housing has far outpaced the rise in wages. While it is true that the US storage market is near an all-time high, I have not found any data to suggest that it is in any significant part due to individuals consuming beyond their means, in fact, due to rising costs and stagnating wages but increased inequality, I would argue that increased consumption per capita would be more likely influenced by the nation's wealthy. That being said, if you have evidence to the contrary, I am always trying to learn and would love to discuss it.

Any company trying to openly and actively dig its own grave is not very popular by its workers.

@Thomas-gk42

2 күн бұрын

Yes, another good argument. Enemy images contradict solving problems.

Even if all fossil fuel extraction was somehow performed by governments rather than corporations, it is very unlikely that humanity would refrain from extracting and burning all that cheap energy. Our only real hope for the long term wellbeing of humanity is to find cheaper, less polluting energy sources.

@mrdeanvincent

13 күн бұрын

Even more importantly is to reduce our massive energy consumption. That's step one. Look at how much we waste. Then what we actually _need_ must come from more sustainable sources.

Well, heavy oil industry lobbying paved the way for the hard-core climate change denial and is hindering us still today - so I *do* blame them for that. They are not the only culprits, but they have their fair share of the blame.

@troytempest9071

15 күн бұрын

Have you ever used oil?

@Collioure232

15 күн бұрын

Nobody is denying climate change, but people are - quite rightly - questioning the hysterical, religious zealotry like reaction of leftists (as usual) on the subject. It is ok to discuss this subject. There are grey areas. There is no “settled” science on this subject.

@DalaiDrama-hp6oj

15 күн бұрын

Very true. They are still active (Donors Trust, Heartland etc.) and it still seems to be legal to diseducate people on purpose. Yes, they are even sending oil industry lobbying books for children to teachers. To say it polemically: By disrupting the education system like that, it is in the end just a brashy theft of tax payers' public (education) funding.

@6ic6ic6ic

15 күн бұрын

​​The left goes so hard because the right is so far off track. 1 forces the other. Regardless, it's the link between business and government and all the failures in the beauracracy that are the real issue. Whether that's attributed to apathy if the populace or the large scope of algorithmic manipulation by business that has led to this, or both, the problem isn't left or right and never has been. It's the fact there is only a left and a right. This devisiveness leads to the 2 issues at play that allows the link between business and government to act outside the interest of the whole. People who blame a political side lack any sense of accountability. They don't want a solution they want to blame somebody or something different from themselves reinforcing that their position is correct. It's not truth they seek but the lie that they represent truth. 1 is as good as the other in their mind. Cognitive dissonance is easy to dismiss because it doesn't exist for you if you have it.

@6ic6ic6ic

15 күн бұрын

​​@@troytempest9071Every single person on the planet uses oil in some regard. Whether directly or indirectly. It's erroneous and irrelevant to the conversation.

I disagree. Knowledge is responsibility and the fossil fuel industry knew what it was doing, the public did not.

@annoyingcommentator1582

15 күн бұрын

The "public" does not care to know shit, otherwise they would not support switching nuclear for coal.

@homomorphic

15 күн бұрын

The public did as well, but the public did not mount a multi decade campaign to bury the truth.

@jayr526

15 күн бұрын

My great great grandfather was a fossil fool supporter. Has demented bride was grateful that he was.

@robadkerson

15 күн бұрын

@@davidmchugh-hypnotherapist7213 and specifically, the public did not because Exxon knowingly pumped out bogus science hoping to muddy the water. It would be absurd not to blame them for doing that. It's tantamount to murder.

@paulsnow

15 күн бұрын

They did know what they were doing. That was improving everyone's lives, worldwide.

as someone from the global south, who is this 'we' exactly. our fault? screw that

@timothyrussell4445

14 күн бұрын

Don't forget Sabine is speaking as a proud German 🤣🤣🤣

Thinking the public will not be myopic and just decide to do the right thing at their own expense is hopelessly naïve.

Whoa, is that a bad take

Wow, that’s the worst take ever‼️This is what keeps us from actually solving the problem. Blaming individuals for something they have no power to control or change, while letting the real culprits (industry buying off politicians and judges) scot-free 🙄

@CroissantMoon

15 күн бұрын

this video is fucking disgusting. I had a fucking stroke just reading the title

@hansc8433

15 күн бұрын

That’s like saying the tobacco industry is responsible for people smoking. People will smoke regardless, just like people will stubbornly keep on burning fossil fuels. Many people just refuse to change if that means they have to stop doing something. So yes, the companies producing fuel are complicit, but all consumers are to blame. We are to blame.

@ZacDonald

15 күн бұрын

@@hansc8433 The tobacco industry IS responsible for people smoking, after just some regulation, taxation, indoor bans, and anti smoking campaigns, smoking rates have dropped dramatically. Could do similar things with fossil fuels.

@Stephanpar23

15 күн бұрын

​@hansc8433 The Tobacco industry literally pushed a campaign during WW2 for soldiers to smoke so they could slide the idea that smoking was patriotic. That's like having McDonald's create all the MRE for troops to eat DESPITE early evidence smoking was absolutely disastrous to the lungs.

@spugelo359

15 күн бұрын

@@hansc8433 You do realize they made that product purposefully addicting so your customers can't just simply quit, but have to struggle a lot for it? It's 100% their fault that people continue to use that product, but not their fault they just tried in the first place. They don't have to have nicotine in it, but keeping your customers addicted is convenient isn't it? And another situation with flue companies. Compare USA or Europe. Europe has good train networks, metros, busses ect. yet in USA the system is absolutely ass and nobody wants to use it unless have to, often not even an option. That would be because of the way fuel companies bribed decision makers in USA to screw over public transportation to force people to use more cars, meaning also use more fuel. People in USA do NOT have option to just say no to using fuel due to the design of most US cities being built for cars... again you can thank both car and fuel industry for that. If US cities were built different using a bike or even simply walking would be sufficient.

Do you blame the smoker, or the company that advertised and lied to them as youngsters using every effective means imaginable, while already knowing the harms?

@edg42

14 күн бұрын

I blame the smoker. No one is forcing you to smoke.

@tombolo4120

14 күн бұрын

the advertiser ...you don't even hear doctors pushing back against marijuana use - only against tobacco. Legislators want the users habituated first before the punishment begins, Lol. Ironic b/c of all the tar accumulation from weed....

The worst thing they did was yes affecting legislation, but also buying patents that would have made progress towards fossil fuel free future. Buying and shelving patents like kids breaking their toys they don't like anymore just so no one else can have them.

This video means nothing when lobbyists exist

@Watashiwadeus

15 күн бұрын

That video was probably paid by a lobbyist lol

@landox

14 күн бұрын

Lobbyist’s are the reason this video exists

The companies can throw the blame at us all they want. We, who were born in this already established car-and-oil-centric society, were not the ones who decided that everything must mostly rely onto them. We are not the ones deciding that all new devices we buy will break on their own 3 months after warranty expired, while being purposely built to not be repairable. We are not the ones putting electronic blockades on stuff to prevent people from turning a slow, malfunctioning device, into a retasked, somewhat useful mini computer. We are not the ones rendering impossible to change the battery of a device that would be perfectly working besides the dead battery. We are not the ones shutting down fully functional nuclear power plants to go back to coal instead. We are not the ones cutting state financial help to place solar panels onto normal people homes to keep on investing in oil companies instead. We are not the ones holding tecnologies that could help reducing environmental load simply because it's "not yet profitable enought". We are not the ones building constantly enlarging and power-hungry AI servers despite clear indications that they are undoing the effort for a better climate of last 20 years, in just two years. We are not the ones who decided that the closest available workplace is automatically beyond acceptable cycling distance, while public transport outside city centres is massively inefficient. Nor the ones who keep building shopping centers kilometers away which slowly kill all small shops in the area you could reach on foot. Sorry, but we are not buying this blame dump any longer. We are the ones who will have to cleanup the prolongued mistakes of previous generation, that - yes - we benefitted from as well but only because we were told things will eventually be fixed, when we were too young to understand that was a lie. Eventually we will have to pay with interests for the damages someone else did, but we'll make sure to write on history books who were the real ones who caused this.

@arpaddanos9416

15 күн бұрын

All these are good points. I don't know what it takes to try to tip the system to start to go into the other direction on these issues. Voting and political organization certainly matter.

@utubinator

15 күн бұрын

Preach it

@feedbackzaloop

15 күн бұрын

Ain't gonna read it all, cause there is a solid objection right off the start: you are responsible for your own decisions. You never asked to be born this time and this place or even to be born at all, but since you're here, do your part your way.

@rex5611

15 күн бұрын

beautifully said

@QuantumConundrum

15 күн бұрын

Just be Amish. I think you got skill gap

first thing reagan did when he moved into the white house was remove the solar panels carter had installed. reagan lived in the here & now, not some distant 2020 like carter

The issue is not "Oil Companies are bad because they sell Oil." The issue is that they are hell-bent on extracting the value of all their reserves. That is, they will do anything to keep the company's value, which is mostly the value of the underground reserves! The result is that they will sabotage any other energy replacement and interfere in politics for that same goal. They will destroy any government to keep doing what they are doing. Unlike other companies that use their cashflow to migrate and adapt, Oil Companies have no interest in becoming "Energy Companies". Their CEOs and major investors are lazy, money-grabbing scum who will not do what they are supposed to do: Take Risks and Manage to Earn Their Money.

@HM-rz8nv

14 күн бұрын

Thank You for spelling it out! Its so disgusting that Sabine has become an outright propagandist for the fossil fuels industry and outright lying on their behalf.

In the quote from Mann, he said that being unconvinced of human impact on the climate was a tenable position IN THE EARLY 1990S. That was over 30 years ago. By the late 90's, there was scientific consensus (or at least belief beyond reasonable doubt in the scientific community) that human-caused global warming was in progress. Even Republicans were acknowledging the problem in the early 2000s. The internal research of the fossil fuel companies would have confirmed the same. Yet they continued to deny the link, helped spread disinformation, and lobbied against climate change legislation all the way to the present. Of course we should blame fossil fuel companies. Even if they didn't 100% "know" human-caused climate change was real, they were the ones who profited, they were the ones who lied about what they DID know, they were the ones who conspired at every opportunity to discredit scientific research, and they were the ones who lobbied against legislation.

@YevOnegin

15 күн бұрын

There was no "belief beyond reasonable doubt in the scientific community". The "consensus" you're referring to is John Cook's paper on the subject, which over half of the climate scientists whom he referenced disavowed after claiming their work had been misinterpreted by him.

@orionbetelgeuse1937

15 күн бұрын

It wasn't any consensus, in fact just a small part of the scientists said that, the others said there is not enough data, Since all the studies confirming the said consensus were sponsored by uncle klaus and his friends and the abilty to pay the rent of those scientists which were in fact scientists in nothing that pays the rent (who hires a climatologst? it's not like being an engineer, they produce nothing that can be sold except their published papers). So, to pay the rent they had to provide stories that get published by the publishers already owned by the same people who ordered the studies. Sabine already told us a few months ago how you can manufacture a consensus.

@rob.j.g

15 күн бұрын

Exxon is still spreading disinformation, judging by these replies

@TheJerbol

15 күн бұрын

@@JohnSmith-dn7tp Well actually alternatives are extremely capable nowadays and solar is literally cheaper than oil. However governments are antagonistic to anyone trying to get off the grid, meanwhile subsidizing the fuck out of oil. There's a reason oil is so necessary nowadays, because of deliberate choices made by people in power to keep it that way... Hell, Germany is shutting down nuclear plants and REOPENING coal plants...

@thomasmaughan4798

15 күн бұрын

"that human-caused global warming was in progress." Sure, that much is nearly indisputable. The question is how much, how soon, how bad, and so on. *Is it even bad?* .

Not sure what the point of this video was? Please inform me.

@Stephanpar23

15 күн бұрын

A Randian grandstand to tell us all we're stupid for expecting oil companies to be held accountable for helping the world burn.

@georgesos

15 күн бұрын

Whitewashing the people who gave me a bunch of money to assign blame to the individual...... Sabine should be ashamed.

@zekicay

15 күн бұрын

Me neither. The issue is not that anyone can't learn how CO2 and other greenhouse gases slow down the release of energy into the cosmos thus increasing surface temperatures. The issue is that most lay people didn't learn, oil companies keep spreading FUD and promoting fake/halfway solutions: carbon capture, renewables without storage, etc... Ultimately helping themselves keep their business for as long as possible.

@valcaron

15 күн бұрын

"Critical thinking too hard, someone do it for me!"

@gregasarka4124

15 күн бұрын

The point of the video is to highlight the unexpected contributors to climate change that often go unnoticed. Take beavers, for example. They are responsible for creating wetlands, which release significant amounts of methane-a greenhouse gas much more potent than CO2. 🦫 According to recent studies, beaver activity contributes to approximately 200 million tons of methane annually. That's no small number! 📊 Greta Thunberg has pointed out, "We must consider all factors in the climate equation, including the environmental impact of beavers. Their activities can have a surprisingly large effect on our ecosystems." 🌍 So, it's essential to look at the bigger picture and understand how various factors, even those we don't usually think about, contribute to climate change.

Brilliant Sabine, I was just feeling awful for the oil companies. Thank you for standing up for them!

Peak oil was not a reason to play dice with the future of our only planet! Doing experiments with your only planet, where the cost of proving your hypothesis right is rendering large parts of it uninhabitable is horrible!

They may not deserve 100% of the blame, but it's not like they haven't lobbied politicians or funded their campaigns. That handily makes them the villain.

@osmosisjones4912

15 күн бұрын

How come the left doesn't have provided evidence for conspiracy stories

@osmosisjones4912

15 күн бұрын

It's finally completed: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHZ7pcyqhce3erQ.html

@normbale2757

15 күн бұрын

The environment industry has lied more,

@robertfindley921

15 күн бұрын

They bought and paid for the Republican party in the US, which spawned Fox News. Enough said.

@CharlesLambert137

15 күн бұрын

Sabine made the point in her video that it is foolish to expect an organization to commit suicide. Since you all consume fossil fuels, by your opinion you are aiding and abetting a villain.

If the fossil fuel companies want to improve their reputation there's a lot of things they could be doing that they aren't.

We will argue our way to hell by considering how the evil we do "Isn't really evil"

Your downplaying of the oil industry decades long misinformation campaign and lobbying is astounding and verges on outright lying. And they didn’t only lie about climate change, but also about all environmental and humanitarian disasters they caused. Do better.

@QT5656

13 күн бұрын

@@pjssjr Exactly! Exxon did not ignore the research... Exxon spent millions updating infrastructure to deal with the anticipated stronger storms, permafrost thaw, and sea level rise. Meanwhile they also spent millions spreading disinformation.

This didn't exist in a vacuum. The way you've presented the information here feels ingenuine and apologist. Should we compare to how we handled the Ozone situation? Or simply examine how the disinformation campaigns that you yourself referred to has created some if not the biggest hurdles in trying to mitigate the situation? The fact of the matter is that these companies did very good research on something that all their information pointed to have the potential of horrendous consequences and instead of engaging in discussion and furtherance of the research and helping with the potential mitigation efforts, they sunk billions into delaying peoples engagement with the subject until after their projections said it could be to late. A huge focus of this topic always seems to be "but are we at fault? It could just be natural volcanos or something." And I just don't get how that thinking is relevant. As it is, our house is burning down, whether it's the work of a negligent arson or a bird with a torch, I think we would agree we should call the fire department and put the fire out. Primarily thanks to these companies now, instead of putting the fire out, we're bickering outside about if we even should put it out all because we don't know if Terry left the stove on or if the California grass was to dry.

@le13579

12 күн бұрын

Of for gosh sake, your house isn't burning down. Stop being an emotional wreck and think.

Hmm, since Im not one of the crooked politicians that kept my head in sand, it actually isnt my fault.

@stusue9733

14 күн бұрын

Sure it is. You seem happy enough to be typing away on your computer.

@freesk8

14 күн бұрын

But you voted for them.

@DiegoGamboa-lo2lw

14 күн бұрын

@@freesk8 One person can't change the system. And the system can be manipulated by economic power, so it is actually fossil fuel companies manipulating the public to get what is good for them even though they know it is bad for the environment and for the public itself. I don't understand how people are missing information that has been there for decades about how private companies use public relations, propaganda, lobbying and corruption to get what they want, and then blame people for what these companies do. I guess you also think that Purdue did nothing wrong because they did not actually physically put their pills in people's mouths.

@stusue9733

14 күн бұрын

@@obsculor From what I have seen its the ones that say things like "it's not my fault the government needs to do something", are the one buying a new phone every year.

@freesk8

14 күн бұрын

@@obsculor My bet is that most of those worried about anthropogenic climate change would not be willing to reduce their air travel by even one trip a year. And air travel is 90% of what most westerners produce in CO2 per year.

This is kind of like saying the banks that were issuing subprime mortgages during the 2008 financial crisis shouldn't be blamed because they were acting in their own self interest

Beach front properties on the Alps is the greatest dark joke of all time.

I mean poor companies, they were too busy polluting and adding lead to read those complicated reports!

Any government attempting to implement even a fraction of what needs to be done would be voted out at the soonest opportunity.

@vanessac1965

15 күн бұрын

Exactly. That's the tragedy of democracy

@markh.876

15 күн бұрын

Fortunately, democracy is not the only possible way to organize societies.

@annoyingcommentator1582

15 күн бұрын

Because democracy works. Sacrificing peoples life and quality of life for ideological goals (Zero-Emission without nuclear energy) is not acceptable.

@markh.876

15 күн бұрын

@@annoyingcommentator1582 Democracy isn't the only or even the best form of government. If you want rapid technological change there is a strong case for a China-style one party state with weak property and human rights.

@robadkerson

15 күн бұрын

@@bikersmate9368 indeed because they've been lied to for decades. Democracy works when there are laws preventing large organizations from deceiving the public to suit their own needs

While this video makes me question Sabine’s credibility the comments section gives me hope in humanity.

@Thomas-gk42

14 күн бұрын

Sabine's vid is very smart and nuanced. This comment section is a funny meeting of the global simpleton community. Have a nice day.

@le13579

12 күн бұрын

​​@@Thomas-gk42 Gosh, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thought that.

We are too many. It's as simple as that. 2.8 Billions in the late 50's. 8 billion people nowadays. You want to save the planet? Fight global warming and stuff? Reduce world population. That's a must.

@delusion2987

14 күн бұрын

no, we are not too many. we are too few actually if you look at young generations and how few kids they're projected to have. the only places in the world which are actively increasing the total human population of earth at the moment are poor countries and those countries don't have industry and the people there consume a tiny amount of resources compared to people in developed countries. the problem is not overpopulation, the problem is overconsumption by developed countries.

Funny how before the 90's maybe earlier , we made products that would last longer and were repairable, and the more we talk about the world burning the less our products seem to last and the harder they are to repair.....how do we not see this!

@lomiification

14 күн бұрын

And almost certainly, oil companies paid a lot of money to the supreme Court that couped Bush into power

@Prunesquallor

14 күн бұрын

Planned obsolescence. One of the drawbacks of market economies.

@angrymokyuu9475

14 күн бұрын

That people will buy increasingly disposable products just proves Sabine's point that people would buy gas even openly labelled as planet-killing juice.

@timothyrussell4445

14 күн бұрын

@@angrymokyuu9475 People will behave in the way the system allows and encourages them to. The government's job is to regulate that system in the interests of its people rather than its richest companies.

😂😂😂 I love how Sabine starts off the video on why it's justified to blame oil companies for climate change. Love that "As data gets better" line. You mean new data confirms old data. It's hard to blame ignorance when you were holding the data in your hand for decades. Maybe if ExxonMobil didn't have a profit motive to continue, even with data, then maybe ExxonMobil would be more likely to change course. Rather than enrich themselves and blame conveniently "ignorant" decision-makers.

@ermarch

15 күн бұрын

Math is not data, that is the problem.

@MillzTheAthlete

15 күн бұрын

@@ermarch When educated guesses get conveniently ignored for the sake of certainty, it's only right those decision-makers be held to account when the "math" doesn't go in their favor. Because it wasn't like a switch from favorable/unfavorable. 99% of data coming in was validating old data/math. Skeptic or not, the math was never in the industry's favor.

@MrSunrise-

15 күн бұрын

Someone didn't understand the video.

@MillzTheAthlete

15 күн бұрын

@@MrSunrise- No, I got the point of the video. My problem is that willfully ignoring data because of uncertainty risked humanity's ability to survive on this planet. Forgive me that I don't believe it was worth the risk nor excuse the decision-makers for taking that risk.

@karlgustav5892

15 күн бұрын

@@MillzTheAthlete @MrSunrise- "Someone didn't understand the video." Yep!

The problem is that the oil industry has no scruples whatsoever... remember the case of lead in gasoline? Even though they knew they were creating generations with an IQ lower by 5 to 10 points, increasing heart problems and cancer, they didn't stop... because the profits couldn't stop... these people who rule the world don't think about future generations...

We have met the enemy and he is us.

Title: stop blaming oil companies First few lines of dialogue: "oil companies knowling produced bad science to confuse consumers" ............ This is just a ground news advert with flare.

@lagmonster7789

15 күн бұрын

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@funnyadamsandlervideos6404

15 күн бұрын

Preach 🙌

@TheJerbol

15 күн бұрын

This is the biggest nothing burger with a hint of viewer shaming. Truly a video of all time

@Naptosis

15 күн бұрын

@@lagmonster7789 thank the gods for the sec-RE-t ad-VANCED SP0NS0R BL0CK-ing app.

@gormanls

15 күн бұрын

Yeah. I don't need the hot take so much. It sucks because she's often very good at communicating

It’s not about the oil companies not knowing. It’s more about the fact that we’ve not exactly been swimming in a sea of other options that we all willfully ignored. And to the average person, when faced with a life of hardship and uphill battles against big oil, most choose what’s available to get us back and forth to work.

@zyeborm

14 күн бұрын

They actively prevented the creation of other options. Despite knowing.

@katrinam6795

14 күн бұрын

A complete Green Transformation of our economy would ask everyone to get poorer than now for a while though. While lobbying to prevent that from companies is heavy, individuals and voters would not be happy either (they aren't, as we can see in Germany). While I was also pretty negatively surprised by this video, I have to agree that individuals changing on a structural level would be necessary too - But everyone would hate it. Like, governments worldwide could agree (good luck lol) to force everyone to use green energy or none. Introduce speed limits first and mandatory car sharing second. Buy railways like crazy. Maybe get some kind of electric autonomous robotaxi fleet which can connect the most remote rutal places. I am not surprised everyone is hesitant to actually do that though.

@Mike-Snoducky

14 күн бұрын

The people that are so quick to place all the blame on oil companies would probably be the loudest whiners if oil companies reduced their production. They are extremely ignorant about how important oil and gas is to society.

@timothyrussell4445

14 күн бұрын

EVs are available and much cheaper to run

I asked myself an extreme question some years ago. If the UK government told me I was no longer allowed a car ( and thus no job), would I vote against them. Too right! My decision, my responsibility, not the oil industry's. Now have a model Y and, unlike my good and nice friends, believe that every bit helps, they've all given up.😔

Savant Arrhenius developed the CO2 model of global warming in 1896.

Sabine - capitalism is good actually Also sabine - oh no we are destroying the planet

@gabagoul67

15 күн бұрын

she didn't say capitalism is good though there are realities people need to acknowledge and navigate through, for example the nature of free market, people vote for free market and the only kind of company that can exist in this society is one that aims to grow. denying these realities is part of the roadblocks on the way to solve our world's problems. blaming everything on the oil companies is actually very bad since you accept a reality where a public company can be seen as good. the problem isn't the company, the problem is the economic structure, and to change that structure one thing that needs to exist is pressure from the people, and people will put in less pressure on politicians if they think that some companies can be good and others can't.

@gabri41200

15 күн бұрын

@gabagoul67 she has a video titled "Capitalism is good actually"

@gabri41200

15 күн бұрын

@gabagoul67 The nature of capitalism is incompatible with sustainability. Capital is value that values itself. Under capitalism, a company cannot be even in its economic balance, it necessitates profit. Capitalism, therefore, demands infinite growth in a finite planet.

@TheJerbol

15 күн бұрын

@@gabagoul67 it's called looking between the lines. Although with Sabine it's much more obvious than that. She has occasionally interesting videos interspersed with absolute science-bashing trash

Don't forget that fossil fuel companies also promoted politicians that denied climate change in tactically important local elections and forced more moderate politicians out of office, restructuring the political system from the bottom up and indirectly leading to the polarization we see today. Fossil fuel companies essentially developed the misinformation and rhetorical tactics used by recent political campaigns. Also yes, they could've known what the world's scientists didn't know: they have way more resources than academics and much more of a profit motive to research these issues. Science isn't only done by neutral institutions and you can see that now with most AI research being lead by tech companies rather than universities. I don't know if this is just a European take, but you are severely ignoring the political tactics fossil fuel companies used to hamper legislative action and misinform the politicians and public in the US. They were so effective they made climate change a polarized, left-vs-right topic. I recommend watching the three part documentary on Big Oil by Frontline, it's free on KZread through their channel.

@le13579

12 күн бұрын

Or you could read the technical report in each of the IPCC assessment reports for a start. And then move to NIPCC reports. And then to the book Green Murder.

Yep, my science teacher taught this with the graph in 1980. We knew what was coming.

One problem is that hundreds of thousands make their livelihood from blaming others. Stop blaming and begin fixing.

I don't understand, most people don't have the level of knowledge of the oil companies, nor the resources to investigate their own behaviour, how can consumer, being actively lied to, be more to blame?

@jollyjokress3852

15 күн бұрын

people are stupid, I agree. Yet, stupid action has an effect. Thus, the actors can be blamed.

@dmitripogosian5084

15 күн бұрын

You argue that people can't be allowed to the ballot box ?

@thomasmaughan4798

15 күн бұрын

"how can consumer, being actively lied to, be more to blame?" Because you have a duty to not be stupid. Obtain education, make wise choices. That choice may well be to continue using fossil fuel when it is -40 degrees outside (C or F doesn't matter at that temperature). Perhaps you should not be living where it gets that cold. Well that's most of Canada and the north-central states of the United States. Most of Russia. Parts of Europe and you cannot just go south because it's a whole nother country and besides, it is already occupied.

How is it our fault if, for the LONGEST TIME IN AUTOMOBILE HISTORY, there was NO ALTERNATIVE to gasoline? Those alternatives could have been created EARLIER if we knew.

@jollyjokress3852

15 күн бұрын

Stupid. There are bikes and buses and trains. And also, you don't need to go on far away vacation multiple times a yr. But yeah, you are just the puppet that has no choice than to take the most comfortable but most devastating transportation means.

@marcomoreno6748

15 күн бұрын

Henry Ford bought up fully functioning public transit utilities, then literally burned them abd outright destroyed them so people would be forced to buy cars. Sabbine is promoting the bad.

@ksp6091

15 күн бұрын

No, no alternative could have existed because we did not (and still don't) have enough energy to replace petrol. The entire society ran on the energetic abundence created by petrol.

@caioporto9234

15 күн бұрын

All the early alternatives have been destroyed by the oil and car industry. In my country they lobbied to deactivate the WHOLE train network. Now after 50 years we're starting to reactivate it.

@dmitripogosian5084

15 күн бұрын

They are still not created

Why do physicists have the absolutely worst takes on globally impacting phenomenon...

An example of how idiotic is to discard everything you can't prove

Dear Sabine. I don´t understand the title "Stop blaming fossil fuel companies". You said the mistake was not to act despite the uncertainty and not update ours plans when new evidence came in. But that wasn´t done because of the imense power of those who didn´t want nothing changed!