Stock Miata NC3 vs. 200whp Tuned RX-8
Today we have our slowest race yet! Quinn's 200 whp Tuned RX-8 vs. Matt's Stock NC3 Club. We did this race to set a baseline on the NC before bolt ons and tuning.
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Reminds me of racing 90s Ford escorts against the cavalier after school. 90 hp and being jerk wads and still under 50 mph. Jason camisa said it best. In today's world where a camry does 13 seconds in the quarter mile. Speed doesn't make a car fun anymore. So you gotta buy a car that you love and brings something to you that can't be found in raw power. The rx8/nc is a perfect example of this
@way2hi980
4 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I got rid of my 500+ whp 135i to get an NA miata, the power has no meaning if the car has no soul.
@nicholaskallmyer9865
4 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Driving slow cars fast puts a big smile on my face. Plus driving a car at its limits (even low limits) teaches you more than driving a beast at 50% of its limits.
This is what it’s all about on public roads. Low power sports cars, burying your foot in the ground and just banging around town. Yes fast cars are their own level of of fun, but these moments are something special
I think I would like to see a grocery run between the 2 of you. How practical they would both be. Almost top gear style ❤
@Carlos.Rivera
4 ай бұрын
Rx8 will win😂 The fact you can fit a carseat behind, stroller in the trunk will give you leverage when the wife complaint about the car
@midtown1466
4 ай бұрын
You could put the top down on the miata and stack groceries 10 feet high
Remind me of driving my NA Miata. Full throttle I would barely hit 60mph lol. Now do that with my m3 and I look down I am doing 120. Something about driving slow cars fast will always be the best thing.
I just sold my 95 Miata. This makes me want to get an NC. It just looks so good
@Hxnry.69
4 ай бұрын
You 100% won’t regret it for a nc2/3. I sold my turbo 94 to get a nc2 and I haven’t looked back.
@Camj27
4 ай бұрын
@@Hxnry.69 does it feel bigger inside? Main reason I sold my 95 was because I’m too tall and my back was hurting after 30 min of driving.
@Hxnry.69
4 ай бұрын
@@Camj27 defintely feels bigger inside. I had to have the NA seat all the way back to feel even somewhat okay in a driving position but with the NC I can move it a few clicks up and it’s perfect. I’ve done driving longer than that and I never really felt bad after getting out
Anything with rx8 and nc in hitting the like button before watching.
Stock held up pretty well!! NC PRIDE
I am super excited to see these two projects evolve together. Mazda love! -Fellow NC owner.
Awesome! Can't wait for the NC build 😎
These looks are aging very well (when done right like these). Fun vid.
Great way to start the day! Incentive to get out in the garage tonight.
These cars (and their “limited” capabilities) are magic. The goal (for me and, it seems like, you guys) is engagement and excitement. Excellent video. Fun to watch. Keep ‘em coming!
I'm curious how the Miata will do after the header and tune. If it can keep pace with the RX8 it will prove the worth of doing the upgrades.
Nice job guys! Looking forward to future content with the two and how the NC stack up against the 8 😊
Loved this! They both look so good!
need more videos like this. looked like you had a blast
Fantastic video guys. That was a riot. Good stuff!👍🏼
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
Thanks Brian!
I love this series!
Beautiful cars. The Miata though... wow. Great video guys!
I'm loving these videos! I had an NC1 and now have 2 NC2. They are a blast! Id love to see ITB or forced induction on the nc3, it came with forged internals from the factory ready for light boost!
Great video to watch. You must be local to me as I recognize some of the roads you’re on. Will be looking forward to seeing the NC build.
Man ,I love Mazdas!!!!!!! Let's goooooooo🎉
Good video. The only thing you could have added was having the S2000 stalking in the background.
Can i just say the nc's shifts were buttery smooth and lightning quick! Impressive driving! Newly subscribed for the nc build but both are beautiful cars!
Looks just like my NC. Great content. Sub’d.
New subscriber. Looking forward to the build. My wife and I are enjoying her white 2013 Club PHRT. It is her daily driver. We are also in CT so you may see it around. I have completed the expansion tank, RPF1 on 235/40/17, Ohlins, Goodwin header, mid-pipe, muffler and strut tower brace. I do all of the work myself. Tune is likely next. The car works well on track too.
@diseasesjesus5078
4 ай бұрын
Damn you got the ohlins nice. My wife also has a miata she daily drives! Def get that tune it'll wake it up with that full exhaust. Fab9 has a good tune kit
The boys are back!!
Cool video format
turbo the NC to 300whp with fab9, feels perfect had it for 2 years never let me down.
Really want both of these cars, but can only choose one, think ima end up going with the RX-8 and end up getting a mazda3 hatch 2nd gen, and a ND MX5 later down the line when most of the 30k-50k mile ND's drop under $20k. Absolutely loved how the NC looked in this video by the way, and the styling mods (if any besides lip and rims) made the RX-8 look freaking good even as a 1st gen RX8. Really needed to see this video, and it gave me a great idea of which to pick between the two.
You should install the BBR 225 kit on the Miata! ITB's and all
Great video to start your tuning journey. I'd love to see a BBR supercharger on the Nc.
@ZackNakazora1
4 ай бұрын
Bbr itb kit you mean? ❤
Putting little brother (NC) where he belongs... 😂 The light weight wheel/ tire package on the NC probably helped to close the gap. Now lets see a track/ togue battle! 😁
So right about lower HP cars. 2 months with a '21' MX5 and have a '21' Supra which I love. But I have more connected fun in the Mazda! And more 'Erotic' fun in the Supra. ✌️
I had an rx8 and i want to buy one again. But this miata looks sweet . I am so divided rn.
@diseasesjesus5078
4 ай бұрын
Bro get the NC its extremely reliable, I've daily'd mine from 52k miles to now I just hit 100k miles yesterday over 6 years. Headache free ownership its so bulletproof.
@castro392
4 ай бұрын
@@diseasesjesus5078truth, I own an rx8 and its just not as reliable
@travisswanson3449
4 ай бұрын
Or... Brace yourself... it may seem sacrilege... Get a drivetrain swap on your RX-8 with Keisler Automation with an LFX V6 engine, 6 speed transmission, and differential, with beautiful machined aluminum components, and computer and wiring. Full turnkey swap. But be prepared to wait. It's on backorder. You can build it yourself, or have them put it together. The weight penalty is minimal, as it's an all aluminum heads and block, and the advantage is the headers are cast into the block, so you have room in the engine bay, just two pipes from the engine for exhaust. 280-300 hp, with 250+ torque, it's a game changer. It only revs to 7,200, but it's extremely reliable. And engines and transmission and differential are between $500-$1200. The kit is about $6,000-$8,000, depending on if you do it yourself, or have them build it. So, there's that. And Quinn has a video on it. Both street, and track. RX-8 for the handling, wheelbase, and practicality. NC Miata for secondary fun car. IMO.
God this makes me miss my Miata. I sold my ND Club for a CX9 due to family use. I’m definitely getting a NC Club when the time comes for a fun car again. It’s just the right price. I’d love an RX8 too but just don’t know enough about a rotary.
Great fun but I was hoping to see your latest Supra review! I’m hoping you’ll do a before mods, and after mods review. Can you update me before I 'Explode'? 😆
The video is cool but I woukd love to see a comparison run at Line Rock full course. I believe the maita and the rx8 also share the same trans.
Its nice to not have to risk jail and have fun 😊
Although not legal in CA, I’ve seen a few NC’s get their motors retrofitted with a 2.5 liter. Mild cam, headers, and tune.
@Chilicharger665
4 ай бұрын
Not one CARB shop could spot a 2.5 swap from the stock 2.0.
@DSORDR1
4 ай бұрын
What is the 2.5 out of?
@EchoSigma6
4 ай бұрын
@@DSORDR1 A Ford Fusion or Mazda6 are the most common platforms.
I suspect maybe the wheel and tire package helps on the NC, but maybe since they’re wider probably close to stock weight.
What a fun vid. We dont need high hp races to have fun, isnt that the whole premise of the miata in the first place?
I love my Rx8 so much
I bought my white ‘13 Club three years ago and just have a blast with it.
Smiles per mile
Y'all should take a road trip with these two gears and gasoline/top gear style
When I drove my M2C everywhere, I was getting honked at and pissed off a lot of people. When I drive my ND2 the same way, no one gives a shit and thinks it’s cute. Lol
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
lol
Fun stuff - was that the GTA load screen music I was hearing??? lol
You're like 17 years old guys with fresh driving license :DDDD Loved this episode :D
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
It's the little things lol
I'm excited to see how the NC stacks up against the S2000 once it's had some mods, I'd imagine they'd be pretty similar once the NC has 200 or so hp.
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
It's going to be exciting to see for sure!
A quiet-ish exhaust car, with ~220whp is perfect. I'm glad to hear someone else agree 🤌 Good video
More rx8 content!😢
I wanna see you guys renesis swap the NC
RX-8 FTW 🫶🏽
@jumpninthedarkalley
20 күн бұрын
Dog shit miatas ftw
@The Slip Angle Quinn, still loving that RX8 and what you've done to it. Looks so much fun to throw around. I remember last time you replied to a comment I made a couple of years ago or so about tuning the RX8 and about 20b n/a motors, and you mentioned that 20b's were too expensive and as far as the stock renesis in the car now, that you thought that you pretty much exhausted all the reasonable mods for the engine. But, in that question, I asked a question that you didn't answer though. I asked about what you thought about peripheral porting/street porting and lightened rotors and if you would consider those kinds of mods? I think there are rx8's that have done both with good results. I know the RX8 is the handling machine, but just wondering if you considered going further with more involved upgrades for the motor. Also, just curious, how often do you check the compression on the renesis? What about shorter final drive ratio for the rx8 and would you consider one? Like a 4.7:1 vs the stock 4.44? I've heard some thought the trans gears were pretty tall. For the track that you use, it could mean more shifting though depending on how short the final drive is, especially a 5.1. Might be more fun on the street though. Thoughts on that?
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
My 91 Miata has been on Vargus Motorsports for over 4 years getting a PPort 13b with lightened and balanced RX8 rotors. We'll see how streetable a Pport can actually be if I ever get it back. I just bought an Adaptronic for the RX-8 so we'll see if we can squeeze more HP out of it being able to properly tune it. I never check compression as there haven't been any indicators it's degrading. I have a 4.77 S2 diff installed in my car. We did a video on it a while back.
I have always preferred to go fast in a slow car, than go slow in a fast car
NC has really short gearing which helps too
The NC is so under-rated! I have a big nose NA that's slow as a cow and my NC2 is a beast compared to it. Full exhaust with a tune gets you 200hp to the flywheel up there with a Honda s2000. The stock NC tune falls off after 5500 rpm. Super awesome budget sports car these days
I loved my RX-8. To me It was a Miata I could take my wife and 2 kids with me in. I hated the fuel mileage though.
Where can i get a new engine for my rx8?
I was looking at a mint rx8 w/ 11k miles recently. I wound up buying an NC2 PRHT instead. The RX8 might be faster, but it's never going to be as fun or look as good as the NC PRHT
What wheels are those on the rx8 and specs? looks amazing!
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
Advan TC-4 18x9.5 +38 Umber Bronze. Special order as they do not have the machined ring lip
Could you do a 981 Cayman S/ GTS/ GT4 review please?
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
Have one that you can donate for a review? :)
random question here, have you kept the bennett built coolant tank in the rx-8? Im debating picking one up because my coolant sensor is failing. I've heard the bennett built tank overflows easily, but I'm going to extend the overflow hose deeper toward the ground.
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
I removed it for that reason exactly and went back to a new OEM unit
Just swap the 13B-MSP into the NC :)
It's like Honda racing in the late 90's.
"why did this guy slow down a little bit and then speed up a little bit" lol
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
lol
Vtec kicked in yo! 😂 its true.. you dont need a fast car to have fun
hilarious! comment for the algo 🤘🏽🔰
With respect,I always thought your figures of 200 at the wheels were a bit suspect just for bolt ons.....I've never heard of anything higher than 190 without port work done.....maybe I'm wrong and you just have a bloody tight motor there
@shazmaster
4 ай бұрын
no a healthy motor will do around 200whp. Cat delete, ignition kit and tune will get it around there alone. After that you're chasing 2-3hp for each mods I had a ltw flywheel, cat delete, ignition kit, airbox mod and tune, i got low 14 - high 13 second quarter mile! I was slightly faster than an ap1 s2k and even with an ap2. I did lose to a modded ap2 however
The ETS2 music in the background is killing me
If that’s a metra kit, how are you finding it? Regarding the aircon
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
Everything works! We did a video install on it recently too
@12TWENTYFOUR
4 ай бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle awesome I’ll check it out as I need to upgrade
Torque matters to get a car moving. Thr nc has a fat torque curve. The rx8 has a line. The rotary engine for those watching doesn't make a peak torque it just makes whatever it makes and horse power goes up based on rpm. (stock porting) with the nc matching torque with it hitting lower and 300 lbs lighter would give similar acceleration up to a point. I bet gears a header and 91 tune would even things up.
Rx8s are so damn slow but so damn fun...I have a fresh streetported Rx8. Shes peppy but still...lacks that power and then you toss her into a corner way faster than you should and it just eats it like its nothing and demands more speed through the corners. One of the greatest cars ever. Also the stock leather seats are fkn comfy. Could sit in them forever. And then theres that sound...after 6k, it just screams but yet so smooth and creamy. Creamy scream.....lel
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
Agreed, probably the best driving mechanical sports car.
The S2 RX8 switched to 4.77 right any plans for that?
@ZackNakazora1
4 ай бұрын
I think he already didnthat. They make 5.1 5.3 gears too
@shazmaster
4 ай бұрын
he already did the 4.77 switch
this doesn't help my desire for a NC2 with a 2.5 swap. Keen to follow the NC build
Please reduce the volume of the background music. Great content non the less
Just get the fab9 turbo kit for the NC and be done with it 350+ hp , then you can go up against the supra
How is the NC miata 2500lbs and the rx8 2900? Doesnt the RX8 have aluminum subframes and other parts in more exotic and lighter materials? why is there such a weight difference?
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
The subframes are steel on both and the RX-8 is decently bigger with more sound deadoning, speakers, etc.
@user-oz5yk9bm5c
4 ай бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle thanks
Please please put all the bolt ons the nc3 then dyno then tune then re dyno the car. I put my car on the dyno stock 132whp mustang dyno then did bolt ons dc sport intake (cheap and effective) Goodwin catless header Goodwin cated mid pipe Goodwin street single then dynoed again 148whp. Then dyno tuned it 150whp and 1hr+ on the dyno to get the 2whp. I would like to see if you get the same results. Everyone claims 10-15whp with a tune I personally have not seen it.
The thing is the RX8's gearing is SO FREAKING LOOOOOONG. I think a really short final for a more fun focused car would make it much better, and for a good fun daily, I'd say swapping a ZF 8 speed would actually make a lot of sense with these - shorter gears, with 2 extra for cruising.
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
It's not long, you just have 2k more RPM to play with vs most cars. Mine is even shorter with a 4.77 FD differential now
@aprtur
2 ай бұрын
@@TheSlipAngle exactly. I was about to say, I have an S2, which has the same rear end ratio you mentioned (4.77), and its not either too short or too long. The shortest ratios I've ever owned was my old Juke Nismo RS 6MT - that makes my RX-8 seem like a Corvette in comparison.
BBR 225 Kit with ITBs and you’ll beat the RX8 and the white miata 🤭
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
Maybe :)
the funny thing is these cars are not meant for this type of driving
slow cars are more fun
God damn street racers..... Rokin and racing... Im calling 911... or 999 here get the call transfered..... If you send me the wheels from the RX8... I mite not..call the 5....0 All good fun.... and of course safe......😉😉😉😉 N x
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
lol
2.5 swap then you'll have 200whp
This video made me want to jump out of my desk chair and go do hood rat $hit with my friends 🥲 Miata looks tough in that last scene Matchew 👊 Quinn, that paint is still looking cherry 🙌🙌🙌
@TheSlipAngle
4 ай бұрын
We should definitely do some more hood rat $hit!