Honestly there aren’t many stock cars that can out handle a stock C4 without spending HUGE money. They really were light years ahead of the game.

There's a reason why L98 powered Corvettes dominated SCCA showroom stock endurance racing back in the mid 1980s.

@sidefx996

Жыл бұрын

3 years undefeated. Lotus and Porsche got so butthurt they had the Vettes banned from the series and they were forced to race against themselves in Corvette Challenge.

I love seeing your 1990 Corvette out-performing all those junky modern cars!

@morecars324

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it hangs right in there! Next time out I’ll be with intermediate drivers who push a little harder

The C4 design is so good for the track, it's almost like everyone started copying their design for a few years following...

@pascalmorel2069

Жыл бұрын

Entièrement d'accord 👍🏽

Love to hear that ZF whine like mine does, lovely

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

O yeahhh she’s a winer lol thought it was almost a problem when I first got the car before I knew it was normal for a black tag zf. What you can hear mostly in the video from inside is the p/s pump whine it does it pretty much every track day

That looked like so much fun! I haven't had the courage to take my '96 LT4 on a track. Really I think it's a better car than I am a driver.

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!, we’ll the good thing about that situation is your car will be very predictable and stable which makes it good to learn on

Really like your car. I have a torch red 93 LT1 6 speed. These cars were really ahead of their time. I have hit 150mph at Mosport on the back straight with no mods, bone stock. No one truly understands unless you drive one. They are truly great cars and undervalued in the market place. Thank you Dave Hill and the corvette engineers of the time.

@morecars324

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for checking it out man , sounds like you have a fun car as well. I’m very impressed with it although it could use a little more power up top the tpi falls off really quick I’d be interested to see how a lt1 car feels.

The Miata gave a good run! So did you! You were able to keep up. So very impressive!

Absolutely killed it in some of those corners. Awesome driving fun to watch and even more fun knowing that I get to be a proud part of this legacy having a 94 LT1. You dont even know or understand till you drive one.

@morecars324

4 ай бұрын

Thanks man! These tires weren’t the greatest either..now it’s on falken rt660 and it corners even better. Definitely a good legacy to be part of I love the car

@charlescarr3909

4 ай бұрын

@@morecars324 I love how you overtook that car one the inside and just swept past it almost like it was only crawling by. But Corvette's are famous for that. I started off driving as a teenager in a the newer 96 Cutlass which is no comparison but had Corvette inspired suspension and let's just say I was younger dumber and a lot more brace back then... Now at 33 I hope I can actually help myself get into harnessing the power of the car a little more.

Awesome track run didn't know those old old c4 still had it in them

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! They do the job that’s for sure

very nice run... thx. just got an 85 20k miles

Man you were hauling ass that was beautiful

Very cool. I just bought a 1990 C4 as well.

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

nice! hope you have good luck with it, so far love mine

These guys in their modern cars are still paying for them while racing them no doubt.

Outstanding, just work on rntering and exiting the 180 degree turn....wish Houston had a track!

Very very nice run your corvette pulls like mad. Great driving young man.

@morecars324

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir, I’m very happy with it for a stock 1990 perfect for the tracks local to me

Amazing 👏🏻

awesome editing style

If you haven't upgraded your brake pads, may I suggest Stop Tech, they have several pads, if you plan to do a lot of track days than plan to change brakes before events as the track pads don't get hot enough on the street. The stainless-steel brake lines make a big difference. You can help with temps by switching out the stock radiator for a Dewitt's dual row aluminum radiator, it helps a lot. My Z51, 6sp has the oil cooler option and the radiator is built to add effectiveness in this aspect. If you haven't autocrossed the car you should, you will find the car perfectly suited to autocross. Nice video.

@morecars324

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input I really appreciate it man, I’ll look into the stop techs I’m running some rock auto pads and although they never faded they did smell really bad so I kept pulling into the pits to check them. I’ve heard these calipers also like to spread apart over time so I may look into other options but I’m impressed by how it stopped from 110 mph. Yeah as far as temps I also have a z51 I’ve looked under there and saw a big cooler which looks to be for the p/s I think the engine oil cooler is just coolant that flows through the oil filter housing not like an actual external one so I may upgrade to one of those. I may look into that and I can see how the torque would suite autocross.

@ThorinOakenshieldGSD2023

2 жыл бұрын

@@morecars324 The Corvette can always stand a radiator upgrade. On the brake front, the pad and braided steel brake lines are a significant affordable upgrade. Well Wilwood makes a great upgrade package for the vette the calipers which were produced by Brembo are in my opinion excellent. They work great for track days and autocross. now if your going to race the car ala SCCA then a brake system change becomes practical as your going to want to be able to move balance as well as some performance gains but otherwise my opinion is that well maintained stock set up is fine. My car was prepared by Dick Gulstrand and ran with the Gulstrand club in SCCA Cal Club and San Diego region both with it's prior owner (3 championships) and with me (1 championship) If the car came with the oil cooler option you will see two lines running from the oil filter location to the radiator. The upgrade of the radiator to a dual core aluminum will do you as much or more good than a separate oil cooler which is a lot more complex because of the way the C4 is set up that it sounds. Having moved from So. Cal to Texas I appreciate cooling. If you haven't autocrossed it's a blast, and if it comes to your neighborhood and the car is running good look for the SCCA Pro Solo, that is a real hoot.

I had a 90 Z51 a couple of years ago. Such a fun car and easy to work on. I never got to do any track days but it was a blast to drive in the NC mountains.

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

Ahh so you know what they’re all about! Bringing it on the track definitely pushes it to the next level, going to be filming more on the next few track days

@ianleckie922

Жыл бұрын

Easy to work on? I need to watch what you do.

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

@@ianleckie922 depends on what your trying to replace lol

@SSFormula-iz7wc

Жыл бұрын

@Ian Leckie when I acquired mine it wasn't running. The owner got frustrated with it so I picked it up cheap. Nothing more than a fuel pump that went bad. I had the old one out and a new one in, in less than an hour. Easiest one I have ever changed. A few weeks later I had a stalling issue. Nothing more than an ignition control module. Over the year of ownership I replaced the adjustable shocks that had worn out, did all 6 U joints, tune up, fluid changes ect. Everything done in my driveway. And I am not a professional mechanic. Way more easier to work on than my 4th generation F bodies.

@ianleckie922

Жыл бұрын

@@SSFormula-iz7wc I did the injectors, EGR, O2, 3 core radiator, thermostat, etc. still trying to work up the enthusiasm to do the spark plugs and knock sensor.

Thats something that i wanted to do with my Z07 package+ looks so much fun!

@morecars324

4 ай бұрын

Definitely a good way to get the most out of your car!! Always a good time with the vette

lotta fun. on my 91 i drilled out the rear cat and the up front pre cats with a long drill and replaced very restrictive stock mufflers with dynaflows. some extra hp for a cheap price.

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

Been thinking about purchasing a corsa for next year

I have a 89 L98 Vette its fun to say the least. I rebuilt the motor to stock specs and it runs strong. I need to change the stock shocks though.. 102,000 on the originals

Thanks

That Engine Temp is Scary Hot 😯

@rogermouton2273

5 ай бұрын

C4s are designed to run hot, and given it's being hammered on a track, it's even higher than normal. Unless it hits the 'danger zone', I don't think it's a concern.

fun video

Great seeing this. Good driving bud. Vette totally held its own. At the end i see you are going to upgrade the pads and lines. Also, change and upgrade the brake fluid and power steering fluid for higher temps. Are you going to go with a slotted rotor? Recommend it . Look forward to more videos.

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out man, my plan is to film more driving I tend to push the car harder now since I have a few more hours in the seat. It does have high temp brake and p/s fluid and slotted drilled front rotors. I’m running the track pads from rock auto they’ve held up great.

@jeffspicolli593

Жыл бұрын

A easy upgrade to C4 braking is front C5 rotors and Calipers with a Doug Rippie Brake Bias Spring in the master cylinder to put more braking to the rear to compensate for the increase on the front. I did this on my 93 with Baer two piece rotors and the results are wonderful.

@redtesta

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffspicolli593 oh for sure, i was just talking about oem equipment but that is a great upgrade and Rippie is always solid. been around a long time

thoroghly enjoyable!! i was commentating the whole time, leaning and watching the mirrors for ya. Damn mini roadsters are like mosquitos! good driving, did you light up a smoke @6:33? nevermind, thanks for sharin.

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

Lol thanks for watching man! I know they’re quick in the corners haha, the car was making a lot of noises inside first time on the track not sure what that was?!

I love my c4. This looks like 90-91. Same as mine. Gray horn button. Wish I can take mine to the track.

@morecars324

3 ай бұрын

Hell yeah! 1990. Why can’t you take it to the track?

@adriansantana2220

3 ай бұрын

@@morecars324 Honestly time. But maybe this summer

Awesome job! What PSI are you running in the tires?

I have a 1988 manual coupe, so I was very interested to see how your car performed because track days are in my car's future, as well. Thanks very much. I understand why you haven't got an aggressive front-end alignment -- street handling is compromised, and tires are not cheap -- but 1-2 degrees of negative camber could significantly reduce the understeer you are experiencing on the track, and C4 front camber is set with easily accessible shims. By removing shims totaling equal thickness from each side, you can quickly increase negative camber for a track day, then put them back afterward. 230F of water temperature is actually within the C4's acceptable range. With the factory 17-lb pressure cap, the coolant won't boil until it hits 260F, and normal operating temp for these cars is around 205F. Your oil temp of ~250F was well below the point (400F) where good motor oils start breaking down. Obviously, you wouldn't want to flirt with the upper limits on a regular basis, but C4s do run relatively hot. The noisy power steering pump _was_ a good enough reason to cool the car down, of course. A return-line cooler can solve that problem.

@morecars324

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking out my video Mike, always appreciate feedback from other c4 owners. You will like your car a lot for track driving, the c4 definitely gives you a confidence behind the wheel when you start pushing it harder. As far as my setup I’ve tweaked it since this track day, I actually did a track day/time attack this past weekend and everything held up great. I’m now running 1.4 degrees up front and 1.5 in the back, that’s the best I could get it with the factory setup with Pugh sacrificing caster. I did notice a big difference as I could turn in harder and even put the car into a small drift if I desired. After doing the alignment I wouldn’t not to have to change it, the passenger side sucked to get to the shims so I’m going to leave this setup for street/track use. The power steering didn’t give me issues this past weekend for whatever reason and it was 85+ degrees and sunny, there was another guy out there same car but non Z51 his p/s was boiling over so my stock cooler seems to be holding me over for now.

@morecars324

2 жыл бұрын

Also sorry for the typos hope you can read through them, I wouldn’t want to keep changing the alignment is what I meant to say

@michaellorenson2997

2 жыл бұрын

@@morecars324 I'm thinking of soldering thin aluminum fins to the stock 'cooling loop' in the power steering return line.

@michaellorenson2997

2 жыл бұрын

@@morecars324 How is that camber setup for ordinary driving and tire wear?

@morecars324

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaellorenson2997 you can buy coolers on summit I think that’s your best bet, also run redline fluid. Maybe even find a cooler from a z51 , in my opinion my factory one isn’t in the greatest location so maybe you can choose a better spot for yours. The setup is fine I drove 2.5 hours each way to the track for the first time on the alignment, tracked nice on the highway. Figured tire wear is not much of a concern since I’m hard track driving anyways, but worse case I rotate tires on wheels from left to right in 5-7k miles

That car needs 3.73 gears and a 214/ 224 cam @ .050 with valve springs and a tune. It will work with the computer and pull hard out of the corner. Great video and car.

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

i agree it could definitely use more power at this point i drive the car to its full potential. Thats something i will put some thought into, i do like the 3.23 though for highway cruising thanks for checking it out have another video dropping soon

@5inchborespaceing

Жыл бұрын

@@morecars324 We raced a 93 Trans AM LT1 car back in 96. Stroked to a 383. Used the 3.23 rear gear with a 2.97 first gear. It was never deep enough. Around 420hp

What was your top speed down the back stretch? I've got a Bright Red 90 also, it's got the softer suspension and automatic trans, you can find a short video of how I bought it last year on my channel way down the video list.

@morecars324

2 жыл бұрын

Was hitting 110 on that part of the track, nice man I’ll check it out! Love the 90

@bradfallin2698

2 жыл бұрын

@@morecars324 Thanks, I enjoyed your laps around the track.

@morecars324

2 жыл бұрын

@@bradfallin2698 appreciate you checking out!

@scoutleader06

Жыл бұрын

@@morecars324 cool !! bet it felt solid !!

Nice !! What MPH could you make in the straights ?

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 110~115

"Stock" Corvette blowing by other cars .. Oh by the way it's a Z51 ! LOL. Cool Vid !

@morecars324

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t be fooled it was the Novice group 😆

@morecars324

2 жыл бұрын

And thanks!!

Where’s this track night at?

@morecars324

10 ай бұрын

Thompson speedway in Connecticut

What track is this?

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

Thompson Speedway in Connecticut

Mid Ohio?

@morecars324

4 ай бұрын

No, Thompson Speedway in Connecticut

Z51 FX3?

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

Non FX3

@vikingtrad3r

Жыл бұрын

@@morecars324 there is no gotcha there!

Too tame for me. I feel like I went to the grocery.

@morecars324

Жыл бұрын

Haha hey it was a shakedown