For anyone else looking for a “Persuader” !! www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Net-Tex-Myti-Fencer-Fence-Wire-Strainer-Tensioning-Tool-/282159080318

I have been lucky to stumble across your video. I am new to owning land, plenty of common sense on here so I will be sticking to your techniques many thanks

Always enjoyable to watch someone "build" a fence. My grandfather was a lineman (Bell Telephone) before power augers so he taught me how to dig regulation correct holes (corner posts were six feet deep). We are witnesses of substandard construction having Amish neighbors unable to keep their stock in and wonder why. We say with a smile, "they are out again!"

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

8 Oclock Ranch I thought the Amish were supposed to be good at that sort of thing ?

@8oclockshepherdess

5 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerP Oh the stories I could tell!

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

8 Oclock Ranch I suppose my only real knowledge came from the Harrison Ford movie Witness, you know, the one where Kelly gets her baps out..... Bad Farmer P 😄🤫😇

@8oclockshepherdess

5 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerP Lord Of The Rings would be a better movie . Think a cross between a dwarf and a hobbit ( more hobbit than dwarf)

I love your common sense approach to this job.

We used to put the stock fencing upside up to allow the game birds free passage.

I was taught to not his two tempered tools together as sharp fragments can be shattered off and may hit ones eye. Also the burred end of chisels should be dressed off for the same reason. I was lucky enough to work on huge construction site that had a blacksmiths and engineering shops. They would make tools and spare parts for equipment that had long run out of parts off the shelf. Only fencing I did was repairing holes in hedges with posts and barbed wire, our tensioning tool was a length of timber with a slot cut into it and pressure was applied to the barb and a staple knocked in. Now that was a fun job. That reminds me don't see any chestnut fencing rolls sold nowadays. That way handy stuff as it could be easily rolled up again and used elsewhere, as quick erect fencing

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

I like a bit of chestnut paling fence myself. Good stuff.

Thanks Farmer P Just finished 250meters doing it your way! Bought a strainer like yours! perfect 👍

Another great video It was a great fencing video

Nice job on the fencing. 👍👍👍👍

Good to see Biskit back Out! The fencing has been made to look easy...Great job...thanks for the lessons. Looking forward to all your videos in 2019....

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

Darren Brett Biskit is almost 100% again now. Never did find out what was wrong with her, the symptoms were flue like with a snotty bogie nose as well. She is still a bit shy of the cold though, I recon we made her soft letting her sleep by the log burner or a month. 🤔🙂

I think you did a cracking job Ian. No need to be de-fence-ive about people critiquing your work.

Excellent Ian. Had a Draper "Persuader" for years. Just ordered a "Monkey" Strainer off eBay. Used similar on the Dairy Farm I worked on as a Teenager but thios looks the Billy Bollocks. Been on my wish list for yonks but seeing you use yours made it a "No Brainer" Like the tighten the top only tip. When putting 2 wires of Barbed on top I guess you tighten the top wire "moderately" first. Thank you for an informative Video - Merry Christmas 🎄

Why don't you buy some wire clamps bud and just fasten ur wire on at each end with termination knots then pull the full stretch up to the middle of the fence and either use crimps to fasten it together or figure 8knots.wire expands and contracts in hot an cold weather also that's why u don't staple all the ways home bud!!

@paulhaworth1824

3 жыл бұрын

Someone with a bit of sense as a 30 year experienced fencer I w grinding my teeth when he w explainin why u should nail all y staples home

6:56 i buggered my fencing pliers doing that. Fixed em by hitting it the opposite side 😂. It’s actually a lot easier to undo the hinge joint to get them off though as ive learnt. Just cut the vertical wire lines, twist them around a bit and it loosens the joint so you can slide em off.

For sheep heads & horses feet it is best to errect wire that has a 30cm gab oppose to a 15 cm gab to prevent them from getting suck.

Your a tidy worker I like that

👍👍👍.

Would be great to see the post knocking to the finished product, good video regardless

Good job

LOL @4:50 "But, I don't like sheep". Mate neither do I, especially when it's the neighbours!

Great video Ian. I have done both methods of tensioning, the box strainer method and long pull is only good if the ground is nice and level. Those red pulling tools are great, handy also for working with barbed wire and doing repairs. Id be very intrested in your video of tree assessment, an area that toutches on my own work ( self employed head gardener for a large public opening estate and also running a number of other large private gardens). On my estate we subcontract the tree safety surveying out , however since it is only done yearly i invariably pick up on a lot of work in between times and also things that escape the tree report. Personally i like to do one of my own walk arounds in the very early autumn as i can deduce quite a bit from fungi and looking at the crown for dieback or reduced vigour.

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

Paul F I will draw up a simple template for VTA ( Visual Tree Assessment) and go through the basics of the process Paul, if you are species aware and have good observation skills it’s not difficult. Might be a week or two before I get around to it though.

@MrPaul1f

5 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerP That would be brilliant thanks.

Love the video mate, I’m fairly new to fencing but I use the same technique as you roughly - hammering the staples in all the way for each post. I’d love some advice on my fence situation though mate: I’m fencing off the edge of my drive going on to the road, there’s already some cattle wire there which is just regular 20 year old mild steel I think with small holes at bottom and large ones at the top. There’s a break halfway through the wire so I’m gonna need to put a new section of wire in between 2 posts in the middle of the fence. I’ve only got diagonal struts on the first straining post and the corner and last straining post. Do I need to add struts to these posts which the new section of wire will be attached to - it will only be 5m or so. If I don’t they wont just fall over will they, I wont put too much tension as I’m doing it with an old draper tensioner bar

Good video have you ever thought about investing in a fencing clamp? You could pull the fence in one go and get it really tight

We have length of wood with bolts and nuts you sand with the wire and winch the stock fence tight it tights tight . We hammer staples all the way in too how our dad taught us to stock fence . The tree vids will be great ☺

you are right let each post take the strain

@adamfooks7248

11 ай бұрын

No, I’m afraid he isn’t. Fence life DRAMATICALLY shortened. It’s not opinion, it’s fact.

Jack have done lots of barb wire fences but never a woven wire fence if get a want to put one up like your way doing it.

Another nice video farmer P. The only advantage to those gripples I've found is there fair quick to install and less staples when joining a new roll... but I'm still not fully convinced 😂. I'm gonna have to look for one of those helper bars, I end up using a hammer or bar which I don't realy like 😣.

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

Casto I can’t remember what the red wire puller is Called Casto, I just know it as “The persuader” I like the gripples for joining rolls of wire, be interesting to see how long they last, apparently the newer ones are better made and should last longer than the originals. It’s the T gripples on the end posts I’m not so sure about.

@casto-

5 жыл бұрын

I'll have to have a look round for one ☺. I've not actually come across the T gripples, I've always, like you did, wrapped the wire round the post and nailed it. I've not had a problem with the ordinary ones that I know of... but gonna have to go check them tomorrow now to make sure!😂

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

Casto I posted up an eBay link for the Persuader ☝🏼 👍

@MrPaul1f

5 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerP its called a myti wire strainer.

Interesting watchin how other people do fencin 🤔 we always put a strainer post in at every change o direction an change o elevation, an strangely in Scotland we always use square posts🤔 😳 but when I was runnin stock farm in England used round 🤔 how far are u between posts we always were 4 yards but urs looked a bit more, Happy New Year to u an ur family 🥂🥂

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Paterson Thanks Robert, strainers on every direction change is a wise precaution, the bowed stretch of fence in this video is concave if you like so any animal pressure on the wire makes it tighter, if the bend was inwards, animal pressure would slacken the tension. I dug the ditch out last year and it’s fairly deep, I doubt my cattle will want very much to test this bit of fence 🤞🏻 My posts are three paces apart, so approximately every three meters, strainer posts are either seven or eight feet long depending on the ground and position and thumped well in, tighter corners have a supporting brace post as well.

@chatteyj

4 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerP You don't use struts then? Also do the strainers have anything attached to them below ground to stop them twisting? Or is this not necesscary do you think? I'm going to be fencing a small paddock soon for some outdoor pigs and so need to know what I'm doing.

@FarmerP

4 жыл бұрын

Devonian Pigs are powerful and fencing for them if not electric needs to be substantial.

yea i am interested in tree info.

My persuadeor was like yours, cost me £50 and broke in half after 3 months! Looked to be made out of cast pot metal / chinesium!

@FarmerP

3 жыл бұрын

Bespokefencing Haha, Chinesium.... I’m going to use that.😄👍

That's a nice day's work,...I was noticing how the lens on your GoPro distorts the wires, when you're close to them. It makes it look like the wire has gone slack. But, we know the difference of that!

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

Reg Sparkes That’s the “ wide angle” setting on the camera Reg, it does occasionally distort the picture a bit. I am looking into getting myself a small hand held camera, something to improve sound quality as well. Many of the videos I shoot don’t need a compact action camera, I got the GoPro for my biking days when it was mounted on my crash helmet.

@regsparkes6507

5 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerP I too, have a GoPro and whiles it takes nice pictures at a distance, I found the same thing, mostly distorted when closer to the subject. But no problems in seeing and hearing you at all, so far.

Tree info - yes please.

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

Jon Wright I will have to do it in bite size portions Jon, it would take a couple of days to cover all of it.

good video when we put wire up we tention it with a tractor

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

william wells Nothing wrong with that William, I’ve done it myself in the past, it’s a lot easier to over egg the pull compared with the chain tensioner though, I like the control the come along chain tensioner offers, I know exactly how much each pull on the lever is going to give.

@chatteyj

4 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerP Is a chain tensioner essential or could you use another tool like a buck rake tine and lever it?

If you’re doing it farmer style vs professional fencing contractor why only have the brace one side then pull against the post the other way to the brace when you switched wire to the non high tensile stock netting. Surely even with your logic about wire stretch applies to the pull forces against a brace?

Hi Farmer P - Great video. Quick bit of advice if you don't mind as I'm about to undertake this job for the first time. Do I need the monkey strainers for the first wire if I have the Persuaders? Just wondering why you use these for the first tensioning rather than the persuaders. Cheers.

@FarmerP

3 жыл бұрын

The monkey strainers are better for longer stretches of wire, where the persuader mops up and does better on shorter sections.

@robofhockley

3 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerP Thank you for the advice!

You do stockfence just like we do! Where did you get your persuader from?

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

SeaSpirit4 seaspirit I posted a link in the comments sir. 👍

Michael Turner

Can I ask what the red tool is called please?

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

J w I have pinned the link I added for it to the top Jw

Instead of putting netting upside down. Use ht 8 80 22 netting instead of c8 80 15

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

stubbenmonkey That would work too, and probably a bit cheaper per roll, I guess it’s just old habits, we have always used sheep net rather than pig wire. This old dog needs to learn a few new tricks. 👍🙂

@stubbenmonkeyfencingtractors

5 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerP there's always an easier way.

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

stubbenmonkey I have no objection to working hard, but always willing to learn working smart 👍

No coat on your little dog..

@FarmerP

5 жыл бұрын

susan brown She has a Christmas jumper Susan, but it’s not cold, about 11 degrees, so she is happy without it, besides she has her bed in my Defender out of any wind.