For those who still questions about the actual power output of these chainsaws, here is a link to these saws being ran on a Dyno. www.arboristsite.com/threads/new-70cc-class-saws-dyno-day.347213/

That speaks pretty impressively for the super light weight MS462! Both great saws.

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

It does!

That 462 is my dream saw, the 500 is sweet but I'll stick with carb for now. Tried and true!

@jeffcoulter7181

3 жыл бұрын

I have the 462, it’s a fantastic saw.

@bman6065

3 жыл бұрын

Still running a 460. How do y'all think they compare? I heard a lot of complaints when they initially made the switch to the 461.

@TKCL

3 жыл бұрын

@@bman6065 I wound up buying the 462 and I'm absolutely blown away with it. No issues and runs like a scalded dog. My dealer said that the mtronic Version saws have been extremely reliable

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

Best power to weight out there! Congrats on the new saw!

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

They're all excellent, but the 462 is my favorite.

Great fair comparison there, I own a 500i with the 25inch light bar, it's a beast of a saw. It's very nice saw to use as well.

I’ll stick with the 462! Proven and powerful

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

You can't go wrong with the 462!

I got a 500i last year summer. I love this saw! Very fast acceleration. I use it for everything 🧡⚡️💪🏼

Good job on the cut. I see a lot of guys filming timed cuts and they end up rocking The saw backwards and forward. You got it down, the fastest way to through the cut this is to keep the blade as level as you can and keep the RPMs consistent and in the saw’s “sweet spot”.

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@stephenspreckley8219

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@hightechredneck_0566

Жыл бұрын

Bar* not blade

@johnm8891

Жыл бұрын

@@hightechredneck_0566 I like blade better. 500i is its own kind of light saber

Some people are missing the point of the 500i. It’s not about saving a couple seconds here and there, it’s about always starting, always running at peak performance without worry about temperature, altitude, type of fuel mix. It just automatically stays perfectly tuned. No fiddling with carb ever. It sat for a month? No problem it just cranks like it did fresh out of the box. Carbed saws the slow drop in performance is so slow you don’t notice. And unless you are a pro getting the carb back to perfect is a frustrating series of adjustments listening for the 4 stroke and backing it off or leaning it out, testing in wood, changing the idle screw, readjusting readjusting until you realize the darn carb must need replacing.

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

You make some good points. The Mtronic models have also eliminated the need for adjustments, though they still use a carb that's electronically adjusted. Now some still prefer adjusting a carb, and they're applications where it's still needed, such as when using a saw on a mill, and when cutting in wildfires where there's a lot of smoke, as the smoke tends to make the system malfunction, and honestly it's quite easy to tune a carb with just a little knowledge. Also there has been a lot of teething problems with these systems from both Stihl and Husqvarna, though the newest versions seem to be very reliable. In a few years we will truly know how successful the 500I is, so far so good. Stihl did quite a bit of testing with the injection system, including using it first in the TS-500i cut-off machine.

@gergggerrg9667

3 жыл бұрын

Until the computer fails, which they always do.

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

@@gergggerrg9667 Solid state electronics are very reliable. People always fear the new.

@gergggerrg9667

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andyshine77 Yeah, I have had plenty of high quality electronics fail, it may prove to be great, but the "new" is many times unreliable.

@Bournefort

3 жыл бұрын

People always think electronics are done when they fail. I have fixed so many "broken" PCB boards by reflowing, resoldering, or replacing components. I would rather work on a broken circuit board than tune a finicky carburetor.

Two of the best saws ever made! Although I’ll stick with the 462

@Andyshine77

2 жыл бұрын

For the most part I prefer the 462, the 500i shines in bigger wood.

@wva_trucks2336

2 жыл бұрын

@@Andyshine77 do you feel the 500i is worth all the hype?

@Andyshine77

2 жыл бұрын

@WVA_Trucks 23 It's a very nice saw, but in the end it cuts wood just like any other. I consider the 462 and 500i the top dogs in their displacement class and the best power to weight. So no probably not worth the hype, if you have a nice 70cc to 80cc no real reason to drop $1,500 on a new saw, unless you just like collecting

Great video! I have the 500i. (Love it). And beautiful cherry tree. I hope that wood made it into furniture and not the fireplace!

462 hands down. Great video, awesome. “ 🙏 “

@Andyshine77

7 ай бұрын

I still have a 462. I sold the 500i.

@slackerdog007slackerdog8

7 ай бұрын

Nice, a lot of folks don’t bring up about how 500i over heats, gotta take it to a shop to get work with. A “ stihl 462 can be work out in the field. Great job sir.

Great video! I love my 462

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

It's a sweet saw!👍

I have the 462 and love it. The thing that gives me pause on the 500i is I’ve seen a 440 with a muffler mod beat and tie two different 500’s and an 046 outright beat the 500. The 500’s may have needed a good sharpener, but still expected it to crush a 440 and at least match or better an 046. For 1400 I expect dominance over 0 series tech.

@Andyshine77

2 жыл бұрын

If you don't run the same chains, same operator and so on, comparing the saws means nothing. The 500i stomps a 440 and and is well ahead of the 046. Something was off!!! That said nothing wrong with the 440 or 046 , but they do not have the power to compete with the 500i. Besides my videos there have been dyno runs with all these saws, with the numbers to back it up my results. Check out the OPE forum all the info is there.

@supay2929

2 жыл бұрын

I want to see a 500i beaten by an 046… I own an 046 and it’s a great saw, but I have tried the 500i of a friend once and I can say there is worlds between the saws… like the 500i is just insane…

I like my 461. And sound of a 2 stroke chainsaw just puts a big smile on my face

@Andyshine77

2 жыл бұрын

The sound and smell.❤️

Fuel injection is the best. More efficient and powerful. Both are great saws. I just hope a dealer can get the 500i in stock.

@JaseVaughn

3 жыл бұрын

I just bought one today about 30 mins ago in FL :)

@Bournefort

3 жыл бұрын

@@JaseVaughn Congrats! I can't wait to get mine.

I ordered the 462 a few days ago I was really thinking about the 500 but I decided to put some of that money in a ms 261 Arctic edition I think they both will serve me well

@Andyshine77

Жыл бұрын

You will be pleased with your purchase.

I would say 462 is the one to go.

Our firewood here is dry lodgepole not too huge. My 440 runs so good I can't give it up. I keep it super sharp and it cuts our wood like butter, a bigger saw is of no advantage. However I want one.

@Andyshine77

Жыл бұрын

If you're 440 is doing it's job, there's no reason to grab a 500i, other than just because. Just because is a powerful force though.😉

I have the 462. I guess 500i next

Can we get a 500i 28 inch bar 7 and 8 pin rim comparison? Thanks!

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

Good idea!👍

bought a 500i in september that thing is an animal

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

One of the strongest stock 80cc saws ever.👍

Where did you get the dogs for the 462.. recently got one and the stocks just don’t do it for me

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

The large 460 and 660 dogs fit, and the 660 roller chain catcher. I made another video about the subject.

I was thinking of trading in my Echo 620P for one of these to work along my 462 but doesnt seem worth it. Its a great running. saw but hefty price tag and when I start to get tired my Echo still has the power to get through bigger stuff efficiently and is so much lighter than either one.

Looking to buy MS462c or MS500i for mainly firewood work on my 10 acres. Upgrading from my MS261c. What saw do you prefer?

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

I replied more in depth in the other video. It all comes down to what you're cutting and what you want to handle, both are amazing tools.

How long does each tank of gas last on the 500i? How does it compare to the 462?

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

After break in the 500i gets more fuel efficient. That said I will guess the 500i burns about 5-8% more fuel, which is about right for 80cc.

I want a 462 with a adjustable carb..

I'll buy one of these 2 in the next couple months. I just can't decide wich one to chose! The tried and true 462 or the new and powerful 500i. I want to keep it for many many years so I have to make a good choice. Any suggestions?

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

It all depends on what you're cutting and what if any other saws do you have? In general I feel the 462 is slightly the better all around saw, but if you cut somewhat larger logs the 500i will have the power to pull through.

@willisbruce4044

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andyshine77 I'm currently running 60cc husky (555, 262xp, 357xp). I mostly cut hardwood in the 20inches range and lot of smaller softwood (for wich the 357xp is perfect). So my new stihl will be for the hardwood, felling and at the wood pile. I hope I'm clear, english is not my native langage. Thanks!

@Bournefort

3 жыл бұрын

I am in a similar situation. I am buying one saw to use for my lifetime and am leaning towards the 500i due to the fuel injection. Never having to worry about cleaning or tuning a carburetor is nice. Plus it is a more powerful saw than the 462 if you ever need to push the limits on big logs.

@willisbruce4044

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bournefort exactly! It's also only 200$ more than the 462. I think I'll go for the 500i,

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

You can't go wrong with either. The benefits of the 462 over the 500i. Better air filter, which also has a particulate separation system, slightly smaller/lighter, more nimble, one piece top cover, better fuel economy and it's slightly less expensive. Benefits of the 500i over the 462. More power, crazy easy to start, power to weight is unmatched, it's fuel injected.

mantabb

362 czy dopłacić do 462 użytek prywatne wycinki

That is pretty impressive to see 462 can keep up with the 500i. I have the ms 462 and love using that saw I have used the 500i I personally think it’s a bit over priced and overrated. My ms 660 will out cut both those saws in that same log.

@strobaholic

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, the 500 is overpriced, but it’s a very nice saw. Starts up super easy. The 661 is too heavy for general purpose use. The 500i has the best power to weight ratio of all the other similar saws. And you’re paying a premium for the fuel injector technology.

@Andyshine77

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. And IMHO the 500i will hold it's own against most stock 660's.

Ms462 and 572 xp husqvarna???Thank you.

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

Might have to do just that. However based on the difference between the 462 and 500i I would put the 462 at least equal to the 572, probably a little ahead.✌

@goran84

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andyshine77 Thank you.

Hi. Wich Saw would you prefer? 462 vs 572xp. To make firewood ca.40meter a year. Thx

@Andyshine77

2 жыл бұрын

I feel the 462 is the absolute perfect firewood saw.

@timtorkelson7201

Жыл бұрын

Have the 462cm with bark box,3 point Dawgs ( WCS products) and just ordered their uni air filter...love that saw it just does fantastic job!! Could be in my mind but brother got me to switch to Amsoil Saber oil and it seems zippier?zipper?? Probably in my mind but zip zip zip with the trigger!!!😁

Crazy what a difference is hearing them side by side. Now what I'd like to see is how they stand against each other with those bucking spikes in the cut. Test that torque

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

Felling dogs.😉 Using them for Leverage when bucking really should not be necessary if you have a well set up chain, and using them to make a timed cut will cause cut times the be very inconsistent. It will however give the operator a a good bit of information about the saws power.✌

Man I am in Canada, tried to get a 500i full wrap, none, anywhere. So I was like can get a 661 again? No. Can I get a 462? Yes but its 200 dollars more than normal. So now I have a 461 ffs.

What length ES bars are these please? Trying to get a size for my new MS500i. Thanks!

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

28"

@bertraminc9412

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andyshine77 Thank you, sirrrrr!

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

No problem, it's a good size for the saw.

@bertraminc9412

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andyshine77 I have a 25” on order. I don’t think I need a 28”. Thanks!

@em4703

3 жыл бұрын

@@bertraminc9412 25 is probably better if you want a more balanced saw. Only go higher if you really need extra length.

500i never loses power, stays consistent all the way through

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

That it does.

Good 500i si 462 ....

I have a ported ms462 that is absolutely amazing, don’t use my other saws much.

Did you test the 572 against these yet?

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

Yes in my last video.

@jagcustomknives

3 жыл бұрын

Hey I know you lol

462 is Very Acceptable performance. There is Literally No Need for 500i... 🤷‍♂️

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

If already had a 462, I likely wouldn't feel the need to upgrade.

@chrisp556

3 жыл бұрын

3-4 seconds in the cut aint enough to justify the upgrade. It would take 6-7 cuts for the 500i to be 1 cut ahead ..

@Bournefort

3 жыл бұрын

No carburetor maintenance and the ability to power through longer bars are the two benefits of the 500i. The 462 is lighter and performs nearly identical to the 500i unless you are cutting really big wood. 500i is a more efficient saw and has a better power to weight ratio if you do need something to cut big wood.

@timtorkelson7201

Жыл бұрын

In addition to very similar power I'll take lighter big time!! Older I get less weight I want.

What I would expect... 500i has 7? more cc than the 462 (10% difference) so one would expect roughly a 2.5 second (10%) difference in times. The guys I know who run 500i's now in BC say the 500i's do a better job of pulling 32'' and 36'' bars. I run modified 461 and 880 so it'll be a while before I'll buy the cool 500i... maybe sooner ;).

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

The 500i will definitely pull the longer bets better than the 462.✌

I’m slapping myself in the face at this point . When I traded in my 362 R I should have gotten the 500i R instead of the Ms 462c R !

Save time cutting spend more time filling the gas tank i own both saws and i get twice as much cut with the 462 then the 500 idk about you but I can't fill up gas and oil in 3 seconds that has to be a factor

Too bad that both saws are completely unavailable in the Pacific Northwest. Very large Stihl dealers in the heart of big timber cutting country have not seen a 462 in over 7 months. 500...they laugh at you. Stihl rep said over three thousand 500i saws on back order in just Washington and Oregon. The shelves are bare at Stihl dealers and they have no ETA on restock. I found a 572xp after weeks of searching and was lucky to get it.

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

All those models are available locally, sitting on the shelf. and are coming in every month or so, though the supply chain is much slower do to Covid. The East Coast seems to be in better shape than out west with supplies.

@darrenpendergast6658

3 жыл бұрын

I live in Washington state, my 462 just came in today ive been waiting 2 weeks. I got put on the list for a 500i and was told it would be a few weeks. They are around just never make it on the shelf.

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

@@darrenpendergast6658 bought a Stihl pressure washer from my dealer, he had two 500i's that just came in and a 462 on the shelf. So they are coming in.

@Bournefort

3 жыл бұрын

Same in Minnesota. They come in every week or two and are usually sold instantly. I am the first one on a 2 week wait list.

@ronpage101

2 жыл бұрын

Reno, Nv dealer has both. $1,400.00 for the 500i. Tempting!

Voglio sapere il prezzo della macchina 462

My 460 has a bark box and I'm not in a hurry.

@Andyshine77

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely an all time great the 460!

@adelarsen9776

Жыл бұрын

@@Andyshine77 Thank you. The new 462 makes exactly the same power as the 460 but it's 500gm heavier. And so much more that can go wrong. Glad I got a 460 and 660.

@Andyshine77

Жыл бұрын

Well sorry to say, but the 460 weights 14.5 pounds, the 462 comes in nearly a pount and a half less at 13.2 pounds. The power is very close though. I like the 460, 461 and 462. The main advantage the 462 has is less weight and it's smoother. The 460 and 461 are going to be a bit more durable, though Stihl beefed up the 462 in early 2021.

@adelarsen9776

Жыл бұрын

@@Andyshine77 The Stihl website in my country shows the 462 as 500gm lighter than the 460 which is 6.5kg. Power is listed as the same - 4.5kw. I just got the info from my 460 manual and the Stihl website. Does this help ?

Ea I can’t tell one from the next I herd one is a gas hog and other is lot less expensive

Now try a muff mod 462 against the stock 500i

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

I have to keep these saws stock as I want to compare them some more that way before I mod them, they will eventually be fully ported.✌

@donpetrey8007

3 жыл бұрын

What exactly is a Muff mod cause I have a 462

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

@@donpetrey8007 You open up the existing exhaust port in the muffler, or add another port, this improves flow which allows the engine to make more power.

@donpetrey8007

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andyshine77 ok well that’s not to hard I have a drill lol. I’ll give that a try. Wish you could still hot saw mod them but that’s all gone now damn EPA

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

@@donpetrey8007 They can be ported just like the old school saws, the system adjusts just fine and I'll likely be porting these saws myself. Thanks for stopping by.

armored chainsaw

$1000 Extra = A couple Bragging Rite Points !

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

The 500i is about $200 more than a 462.

2 Seconds difference in time ??? Some people must have little to think about in life when they worry about 2 second differences.

@Andyshine77

2 жыл бұрын

A difference of 27.7% is a representation of the power between the two engines, it's not about the time it's self.

Nice😍😍💪🇷🇴

Meh I’ll keep my 462

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

Can't blame you is a phenomenal saw.

@coryfairbairn5311

3 жыл бұрын

Recently bought the 462, awesome saw.

@ryanh.2049

3 жыл бұрын

@@coryfairbairn5311 Same here

Geile Schnittschutz Hose Jens Blau 🤔

🪵🪵🙏🙏

Untuk

I'll bet my 16 year old 880 magnum outruns them both, lol!

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

All saws being stock, In wood 36" or less smaller saws are much faster, the 880 just does not have the rpm.

@stephenspreckley8219

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andyshine77 I thought my old 090 was slow, well I'm ripping Australian hardwood with a 42" bar, yet I'm tempted with that MS500i.....

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenspreckley8219 I'm well aware how tough the wood is in Australia, big saws shine there for sure.

@bman6065

3 жыл бұрын

880 is all torque. It's not a fast cut

@Andyshine77

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, in this size wood it would be slow.

Vollpfosten , in der Jeans , na super , einen nicht motorisierten Rasenmäher, würden die von mir nicht mal geliehen bekommen.

it doesn't cut well, the teeth are broken