I have been running a 661 for 6 years now. Had one trip to the service shop with it. It has been a strong running saw.

@stihlusa

2 жыл бұрын

Kevin, we are happy to hear the MS661 is doing its job for you. Thank you for being the best part of STIHL!!

Converted to woodburning insert on Christmas Eve 2013 and have cut -3 cord with my MS 261C-M. So far so good!

It's 2020 now. I bought the 261 cm. It is awesome. No problems ...just cutting.

@joew9392

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody works on them around here...

@jeremyscott6641

3 жыл бұрын

Just wait my old 261 never gave me issues for 20 years so I bought the 261C not realizing it’s chipped, stupid thing was running fine until it didn’t, air filter clean but the spark plug fouled after limited use, has maybe 15 hours on it, junk period.

Whoever took over to stihl manufacturing and thought process needs to give it up

@kingdommusic5456

3 жыл бұрын

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Best advertisement for the chinese clone saws that I have seen.

I am very pleased with my 261c. I bought it 3 years ago, cut and bucked 30+ full cords of firewood and at still runs awesome. Last fall I got it pinched in a 20 inch diameter tree just as it was falling. I stepped away as the tree was going over, the saw fell out and the butt landed on it. Saw was still running but unusable with a broken wrap handle. Local Stihl dealer had a me a new handle in 3 days after I ordered it, and after about a 30 minute job to put it on (never changed one before) it looks and runs like new. Very pleased with the saw and dealer.

I have the 201t c m and it cuts great, better than I even expected .

Hate to see these bad comments. I've been running a 261c for three years and it has given zero problems. I run non E premium gas and syn, oil mix. Hope it stays that way. I see now they have fuel injection.

@philipjean1086

Жыл бұрын

Have 4 still saw have had more problems with my ms-261c artic than all the rest of them since i bought my first 028 in 1984

@PurpleNovember

10 ай бұрын

Same here and the fuel injection is even better. Most of the problems blamed on the electronics are mechanical problems the electronic control is compensating for, problems that would probably be obvious on manual carb saws.

@johnb8956

8 ай бұрын

People buy these things and do 0 maintenance/ care and wonder why they don’t function perfectly.

the last thing i want would be a computerized chainsaw

@markclark1605

3 жыл бұрын

I have a husky xp562 with it . It does alright to me, but I think it makes the engine run lean. Last week I bought a Sthil MS 261 with the carburetor. I like it just fine. I have several other pcs of equipment with carburetors and they do fine. Keep good fuel with 4 stroke engines along with 2cycles and its fine.

@dkdanis1340

3 жыл бұрын

@@markclark1605 ecu knows the best and it adjust in all situations.

@jefflohr5533

2 жыл бұрын

@@dkdanis1340 so does my EAR and my screwdriver

@jesse1136

2 жыл бұрын

I've run many saws with M-Tronic and one of my personal saws has it. Here's the deal: if you are a "chainsaw guy" this will not be the Stihl for you. But you already know that. This is great technology for a wide ranging fleet of trucks whose operators dont understand why a saw that ran beautifully last week in Chickasaw won't do anything but spit and sputter and stutter before dying down in Bay City. They're going to get pissed off and most dont know how to tune one (but they'll try anyway). Now you've got 12 saws going to a Stihl service shop because of elevation drop. That's who this saw tech is for and it is a perfect saw for the job.

The automotive industry has proven for decades that electronic engine controls can be reliable, efficient, and give good performance. Funny how so many people think that as soon as you put anything electronic on a machine that a failure is just around the corner. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, though. As for me I'll continue to enjoy the performance of my MS362CM.

@Offgridgremlin

2 жыл бұрын

completely agree. people seem to forget the 35 year old ECUs in cars still working fine to this day with zero servicing input

@ben8606

2 жыл бұрын

Agree as well. My 362cm and 661cm run great. most people hate change and generally have terrible memories

I dont have spark. Is the ignition module the culprit? I have an MS441C. It has good compression. Everything is good, the flywheel, the carb, compression and other components but it does not have spark. I cant use it. Please help.

Are MS441C and MS440 interchangeable in terms of carb, coil and flywheel? Thanks

Thats why I keep my older Stihls going. I can see all that technology costing a motsa to fix. Right after warranty, solenoids, coils, carbs, digital this and that will all cause disappointment.

@dkdanis1340

2 жыл бұрын

This will have way less problems than any manual carb. People that don't want this tech haven't cut a tree in their life. Automatically adjusts to every condition altitude temp etc no manual adjustment needed. And electronics will never break.

@mateobrainardo4770

Жыл бұрын

@@dkdanis1340 And how exactly do you know this? How do you KNOW this M-tronic system will last as long as an old school carbie and frequent manual tuning? Using a chainsaw is an EXTREMELY violent (vibrato) event. Every component of that saw will be shaken, and exercised vibrationally; I just don’t see how this Frikkan M-tronic can be durable for years and years of heavy duty use, when it is an electronical solution to a mechanical and fluid dynamic system. I guess we’ll see in a few more years when shit starts acting up the madness of diagnosing which component got tired of the continual vibratos, and gave up. I have a feeling that the M-tronic replacement parts are going to be expensive...Of course this will occur outside of the Stihl warranty, and you might just buy another new saw at that point. It’s the maddening “throw away” society in which we live. Profit at ANY cost. Quality and longevity be damned.

@Drottninggatan2017

Жыл бұрын

@@dkdanis1340 Electronics are the first things to break. And just about everything on a modern Stihl is built flimsy. The electronics and the "smart carb" is no exception. Maybe it is good for evolution and for sales. The saws in the 1970 and 1980 were made too good, and that hurt sales of new saws quite a bit.

looks awesome

Very awesome

What means a great deal to me would be the warrantee on a saw like this, electronic part have a history of not always working as they were designed to work. Is the saw waranteed long enough to cover problems that might develope later on in the life of the saw. If the saw is as good as advertised then the company should be willing to stand behind the design improvements for the life of the saw.

@danhenderson783

10 жыл бұрын

Modern automobile electronics are incredibly reliable. Handheld power equipment has to deal with weight vs performance. Electronics absolutely add more bulk, this is not a good thing. The EPA gestapo are destroying everything with a internal combustion engine. It isn't about air anymore it's about controlling your life the way they see fit. If you voted the Leftist Marxist ticket you get what you deserve.

@michaeldougfir9807

5 жыл бұрын

Tim Frost: The reputation of STIHL is that it is VERY DIFFICULT to get that company to cover almost any warranty work. Not very long ago, in Stihl's advertising, they said they were addressing stalling & flooding problems in certain models that they named. I thought this was unusually good of them; and they said they would continue down the line to improve the remaining models. I have always had problems with Stihl saws flooding. So this was good news. It is also why I have owned Husqvarna & Jonsered saws, and some others as well. Last week a good man that has a construction KZread channel, demonstrated turning a large Stihl saw on its' right side to deal with flooding. That was news to me. I will probably have to try it. While we are talking about saws, there are several KZread videos on chainsaw sharpening. Some of them are incredibly poor. However, after more than 20 years of collecting sharpening devices, there is one to recommend. It is the little, inexpensive, 6 sided thing sold by Husqvarna and Jonsered. I have used it on 3/8 chain very happily, and there is one for low profile 3/8 as well. And I used it on my Farmhand 029 Stihl with very happy results in USA West Coast pine. I think it is worth a try. Remember to clean your file. NO sharpening device will overcome a poorly maintained file. I replied to much more than you spoke about. I hope to be of help to chainsaw users. Remember to read your saw's handbook. It is there to help you.

@mateobrainardo4770

Жыл бұрын

@@danhenderson783 LETS GO BRANDON!

I have a 362 wrap handle that is modded to the limit that thing rips

I’m just here to read all the negative comments from those who fear technology. A lot of the same comments I heard when EFI cars came around. The only constant is change.

@markproulx1472

3 жыл бұрын

Bullseye, dude.

@mateobrainardo4770

Жыл бұрын

That’s cool. You surf KZread for entertainment purposes, I get it; but I sincerely doubt you’ve ever worked on a chainsaw in your life! The M-Tronic is a fPOS.

Hope the fix them, out of all my saws the 291 & 362 are the worst,,, they give me nothing but issues

I needed to purchase a new chainsaw. Looking at all this new tech has helped me to make up my mind. I will never buy a NEW chainsaw, only older models.

@sofjanmustopoh7232

5 жыл бұрын

Tony C sure Make sure your car is still carbureted And uses point distributor Oh did you hitch a mule to work today ?

@stephanmackie5281

3 жыл бұрын

@@sofjanmustopoh7232 LMMFAO. Your right. The M tronic is bad ass

@joew9392

3 жыл бұрын

It's okay to buy an electronic ignition saw but I draw the line at a saw with a microprocessor on it.

@user-ch4dl7je9v

3 жыл бұрын

@@joew9392 No all this emissions bullshit is garbage. It in no way improves the engine of the chainsaw.

@user-ch4dl7je9v

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephanmackie5281 Badass? Is that code for utter shit? i mean if you're a little boy and don't want to use a real chainsaw, sure your little crap toy could be 'badass' in your fantasy world . Me I'm busy doing a man's work, not pretending to be a man like you.

I have a 2017 stihl ms362 cm. Would you know what version of m tronic it would have??

@stihlusa

3 ай бұрын

Hi, Glenn. Thanks for reaching out! Please feel free to contact STIHL Customer Service regarding the matter at hand, so our team can look into it. STIHL Customer Service is open Monday-Friday, 8am-7pm ET. You can reach us at 1-800-467-8445 or via email at support.stihl.com/en-us/write-email/.

nice video guys

Great something that is going to cost to fix. The old way has worked for years. They seem like they want some service money now too.

@trashman1694

5 жыл бұрын

yup

@JosephSmith-by7wt

3 жыл бұрын

Old is gold

@yommmrr

3 жыл бұрын

Yep give the 500i a few years and stihl will be making more on repairs

@SoutheastanglerLLC

3 жыл бұрын

@@yommmrr that's the goal of today. All these manufacturers have discovered you cant make money on something that last forever. Price of parts is going up aswell so they force you into a new machine.

@mateobrainardo4770

Жыл бұрын

@@SoutheastanglerLLC True DAT! It’s the Walmart throw-away mentality. I’m still using the original piston and cylinder (and CARBURETOR) in my 1987 038 Magnum AV. I keep it fat, rich, and oil happy. Usually 40:1 with a bit more oil here and there. The crank bearings and seals are still original as well. I bought it used at a pawn shop in Xenia, Ohio for $100 bux. Love that saw. Heaps of torque.

Zama carburetor?

Can you help us out with the fuel solenoid, and what one has to do if it is replaced? It is my understanding that the new version of the solenoids don't work in conjunction with the old model coil, and it [coil] also needs to be replaced if the solenoid is changed to a different part number. Also, if that is the case, what coils go with what fuel solenoids ? thank you. How many coils were issued for the ms362, and are all of them limited (RPM LIMIT) ? Thanks again.

@stihlusa

Жыл бұрын

Hi, Thomas. Thank you for reaching out. Please feel free to contact STIHL Customer Service regarding the matter at hand, so our team can look into it. STIHL Customer Service is open Monday-Friday, 8am-7pm ET. You can reach us at 1-800-467-8445 or via email at bit.ly/3P7iMUv.

@thomasgronek6469

Жыл бұрын

@@stihlusa Many thanks, the customer service support team never has the ability to answer my questions. I am waiting for a return call. The thing is, this information should be published, and put out there for reference. either hard copy, internet, or both. Also, those who own equipment should be notified when changes of that magnitude are introduced. Additionally, if a part isn't available any longer, all additional parts required to fulfill the needs of the upgrade should be free or at minimal cost to accommodate the machines needs. One shouldn't be forced to buy a new coil just because Stihl screwed up with the Fuel solenoid. Hell, the updated solenoid and control module should be given to customers with the original versions of the machines, accompanied by a letter of apology for the inconvenience, and a check to cover our labor, or free labor from a Stihl mechanic. Your customers shouldn't have to pay for anything that Stihl messed up, ever. So start sending some letters, with information about what is going on. BTW, The solenoid failure caused severe scoring of the piston and cylinder due to the lean-burn condition it was experiencing due to solenoid failure WHAT WILL STIHL DO TO CORRECT THAT PROBLEM ? *(The fuel solenoid was designed to fail between 100 and 200 hours of operation, REAL NICE).* the heat probably ruined the plastic bearing cages. If nothing else, at least let us know what we need to do to fix the problem by providing the part numbers, info, and why. This extends to more than the 362, and the Stihl team know it. Can you say class action suit ?

Witch number sthil have this tehnologie exemple ms270 ms 390 ?

@joew9392

3 жыл бұрын

Neither of those saws have M-tronic, thank goodness!

Sounds like technology has made it's way into the woods. Let's just hope we don't need to fix them in the woods.

@michaeldougfir9807

8 жыл бұрын

+mcovey12 My grandfather always said, Wait till a new product is perfected. (Till the bugs are worked out.)

@user-sj5ct3ys4c

6 жыл бұрын

+Miv v chael Dougfir

@trashman1694

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaeldougfir9807 Your grandpa would tell you to buy the old saw and rebuild it now..

@joew9392

3 жыл бұрын

Not too bad, just carry a laptop with you, filled with Stihl's proprietary software, a soldering iron and an electric generator, etc....most loggers have this, don't they?

Does the M-Tronic system have a battery or does it run directly off the magneto?

@stihlusa

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Christopher, Great questions. The STIHL M-tronic does run off of the ignition module (another name is ignition controller). Thanks!

I have a sthil ms441c magnum. Will start fine. Once you press the trigger it quickly goes wide open throttle. Will not go back to idle. Stuck wide open throttle. I need help

@stihlusa

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Mr. Yazzie, We would advise to stop use of the unit for your safety and please take the unit to your local STIHL dealer for assessment. The dealer can assess the throttle cable that is associated to that machine.

Can anyone attest to the reliability of this system? I am debating between the MS 261 standard vs MS 261 C-M.

@travisschierman6382

6 жыл бұрын

Do not get the m tronic junk stuff

@Wishbone799

6 жыл бұрын

Stick with the older technology that works. More designed for Dealer interests with a bit of EPA thrown in for an excuse.

@markclark1605

3 жыл бұрын

it's fine. Just bought the Sthil MS 261 with the standard carburetor.

Couple things - yes, EPA is driving. Comment on the carbs in cars then and now, the first *UGLY* feedback systems in 1981, then MPI, then TPI, and now Direct Injection. I believe over time this will be a good thing. Reliability is a concern for any new introduction but it isn't like the mid-80s when computer technology in engines was new. This is commonplace now. Also, hardware has gotten consistently better in terms of computers/microchips that can withstand harsh conditions. I for one think it is a good thing and believe that over time will overcome issues if there are growing pains. We don't try to buy the best if we arent serious about quality equipment and I don't think Stihl will let us down. Also remember, Briggs and every other equpment manufacturer will need to do this to comply with standards. One other comment - concur with person who stated previous models were better performers than current - I have noticed this also. I think the switch to electronics will correct that as manufacturers have struggled to create carburetors to achieve EPA controls, and the net result was consistent drops in performance - maybe not noticable from one year to next, but over time the changes add up.

Can't keep the 261 running at 8,000 feet for more than 20 minutes in temperatures over 65 degrees. It runs OK in colder temperatures. Just bought it a few weeks ago in Colorado. My 16 year old Farm Boss runs fine in the same conditions running the same gas. I'd appreciate some advice on a solution.

@stihlusa

3 жыл бұрын

Hello and thanks for sharing your concerns with us. Is it a MS 261 or MS 261 C-M. If its standard carburetor MS 261 then it may need a carburetor adjustment. Please ensure you are using a fresh and good quality fuel (minimum of 89 octane). Some fuel companies run winter and summer blends of fuel. Maybe the place you get your fuel still has some winter fuel from there last delivery. If your concerns continue please send us a direct message on Facebook and we would be glad to learn more.

@muffly3

3 жыл бұрын

@@stihlusa it's the C-M with an 18" bar. Gas is 91 octane. As I said in my post, the 16 year old saw runs fine on the same gas. I've got one of your pole saws too, and have no problems keeping it running in the same environment. I'll try re-setting the electronic system as seen in the video. I'll reach out via Facebook if I continue to have a problem.

@stihlusa

3 жыл бұрын

May need a re-calibration if your going from two different elevations.

@muffly3

3 жыл бұрын

@@stihlusa Purchased the saw in Castel Rock, CO which is around 6200 feet. Saw is stored and used at 8100 feet. The re-calibration instructions are in the owner's manual, I assume? If there's any more support you can provide to help re-calibrate the saw, that would be appreciated.

@stihlusa

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, give our team a call with any further questions. 800-467-8445.

I think that this should be a feature available on the homeowner saws more than the professional ones. I see electronics as being somewhat unreliable, which is just the opposite of pro grade. homeowner is more of a convenience thing (although price is part of it as well). if this was done without electronics, I would really want it.

@logancote6703

Жыл бұрын

thankfully all these saws offer models without this feature. Just what we need - some shit we cant fix !

@PurpleNovember

10 ай бұрын

Same thing was said about electronics on vehicles and not being reliable. Electronic cars are far more reliable and a hell of lot less maintenance than carburetors and points vehicles. Electronic engine controls are very reliable and require a lot less attention than manual carb saws, plus more power and burn less fuel. The downside is the $1,000 MGD scan tool if something does go wrong, with the electronics that does require a scan tool, and you don’t want to take to the dealer. I was an 80’s kid and remember the early computer control systems on vehicles. I get the hesitation with the saws and I was skeptical at first after reading about the 201 problems. The early M-Tronic versions needed some updates but the 3.0 is problem free as far as design goes and the failure rate is extremely low. If there’s a problem with the saw it’s likely going to be mechanical.

How much can fuel eficiancy really matter in such a small engine,

@MrThroll

9 жыл бұрын

Mike Goss Alot if you're using it for several hours every day

@michaeldougfir9807

8 жыл бұрын

+Mike Goss The EPA gets on your case and MAKES you make certain improvements. The government's job is to protect you from yourself. Didn't you know that? I call it, protecting us to death.

@markclark1605

3 жыл бұрын

It really don't save that much fuel. They are running them so lean now. A well adjusted carburetor does fine.

@mateobrainardo4770

Жыл бұрын

@@markclark1605 same problem with Harley Davidson motorcycles. The FI models are set to run lean. The EPA mandates this. The first thing I do is riches up the fuel map. Makes those engines run cooler too.

I just nearly orded one but change my mind and got the husky 550xpg..

Why do the ignition modules fail constantly. I'm on my third one, the saw has less than 100 hours of use. Maybe you guys should upgrade the quality

@stihlusa

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Thomas, Ignition modules often last the life of the engine, but in some cases can fail sooner. This can be caused by the heat soak or electronic components that give out typically causing a no spark condition when the engines warmed up. We do not have any common issues with them and usually can be replaced up to 2 years under warranty. If you'd like for us to look into this with you please send us a direct message on Facebook since we cant get them on KZread. Please send us your serial number and any service or maintenance work orders you have. Thanks!

@thomasgronek6469

2 жыл бұрын

@@stihlusa Thank you for your responding, I will try FB, although I've already been in contact with the company, but to no avail. The coils were not exposed to adverse heat conditions, if there is some other electrical issue that could cause coil failure, please post here. You haven't lost a loyal customer, but I think a deeper review of coil failures might expose later issues that could be avoided.

@thomasgronek6469

2 жыл бұрын

@@stihlusa I took apart one of the failed ignition modules. The capacitors are too small, , , without insufficient Kv capacity, they fry themselves. I just saved your company's reputation (IF YOU REVIEW THE SITUATION AND ACT ON MY INFO), and I saved your company a ton of money, and lost customers. Please send me some free coils for and MS 362, and and MS 261 for a bonus, and what the heck, an MS 400, made in Germany would be nice.

@stihlusa

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your feedback. We monitor warranty data very strictly to ensure our products are maintaining the highest quality. If we notice any growing trends we will look into and review it with our product specialists. We unfortunately can't send you these parts directly. If you can get them into your local STIHL dealer then we would be glad to work with them. Please send us your dealer information and serial number in a direct message on Facebook. Thanks again.

@thomasgronek6469

2 жыл бұрын

@@stihlusa Thank you.

I wish the presentation had less adjectives and adverbs.

Have a bunch of other Stihl gear and would've bought an MS 261 CM, but that M-Tronic just didn't sit well with me as I keep my saws for years. Ended up with a simple but quality Shindaiwa 501sx instead (same as Echo 501P). All the upside with little downside and way lighter too.

@TroubadourJuggernaut

2 жыл бұрын

agreed, I say buy up 3 or 4 traditional carbureted Stihl's before they disappear, we'll have them for life ........ this new "electronic saw" is either for the home owner who doesnt know how to fix a saw or the pro who will throw it away and buy a new one in 5 years when it fails

makes it seem like its a good thing haha. its just a way to try to keep the power up while dealing with the EPA bullshit. the old saw prices are going to keep climbing most professionals will not be dealing with any of this stuff. even the 461 and the new 660s are controlled down. My old 039 is a better running saw than my new ms362. More reasons to bring your saw back to the Stihl dealer to get work done to it. I wouldn't want to mess with a customers electronically controlled chain saw.

Why not just go with straight fuel injection. BTW learn how to adjust a carb it's not that hard. Neither is a rebuild kit.

sounds like something else to break

@mateobrainardo4770

Жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what it is. ...aand it will fail outside of the Stihl warranty. Good luck getting them to actually FIX any problems within warranty BTW. They just don’t do it. Profits at any COST!! The glory days of quality STIHL chainsaws were in the 1980’s and ‘90’s.

My computer is smarter than me! Now, even my chainsaw? This is operator, planned obsolescence.

this seems over engineered and overdone.. more stuff to break..

I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle kzread.infoUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.

Cant stand working on these.. always issues..

I have this carb system on my saw and it doesn’t run right. Stihl dealer has changed this carb out twice and I just too it back again. Nothing but trouble within the 1st month. They just keep trying to fix it. This will be the 4th intellcarb it has had on it. They should switch the name to ignorantcarb because you will feel ignorant after buying a saw with this on it.

@bogdan.1721

2 жыл бұрын

Wich model saw ?

We all said the same thing when fuel control came out in cars and trucks, who wants a carb on their car now. Give me fuel injection any day and this is just the start. Growing pains will pass for superior performance soon. Who would have thought 4cyl. car could get 200+HP back in the 80's and look now.

@sofjanmustopoh7232

5 жыл бұрын

August Fesi Yep Amen ! Now we have 6 speed automatic that is more fuel efficient than standard 5 gears manual Engine that goes 300K miles Spark plug that goes 200k before needing replacement Welcome technology advancement

@markproulx1472

3 жыл бұрын

Right in the middle of the bullseye, dude.

@mateobrainardo4770

Жыл бұрын

@@markproulx1472 perty sure you were wearing skinny jeans when you wrote this!

Junk my 201 has cost me from day one

Is Stihl making a fuel injected chain saw?

@cavemannsniper

5 жыл бұрын

Yes

@joew9392

3 жыл бұрын

I think they call it an MS500i, not sure though...

Cost savings based on fuel usage is a selling point? What about when you got to send this all out to have the carb adjusted? Most tree guys aren't breaking out a laptop and troubleshooting their microprocessor carburetor. I'll take the old school carburetor any day

@no.step.on.snek.2423

2 жыл бұрын

The mtronic adjusts the carb dude.. both the solenoid and the processor are easy changed IF faulty. The fuel consumption isnt the only selling point. As you know, a engines performance is controlled by fuel air mixture. In old carbs this was done manually and by ear. If you live somewhwre like i do, it can be 88 and sunny one day and 30 raining ice the next. And everything in between . The mtronic is a gamechanger here.. 3 years daily use and ive had no trouble at all with my 661cm.. actually the exact opposite.. that dude is always tuned just right no matter the enviroment.. i understand the skiddish mentality behind new stuff.. but this really isnt new technology. Its just new for chainsaws.. and it works.. huskys autotune does the same thing. And its good at what it does too... Ive had more trouble with regular saws than the mtronic.. and thats the truth.. not sure who told you that you needed a laptop to diagnose it... If you work on the fuel system or air system of the saw, you have to reset the processor.. you dont plug a laptop too it.. all you do is run it in the cold start position for 90 seconds. Cut it off and the whole system is reset. Dont be afraid of innovation brother.. you might actually like it.. you can google search autotune and mtronic. And youll see issues with it.. but all in all were talking 20 people posting online.. you can find equal numbers of bad reports on anything manufactured... Search mtronic problems, see how many different people complain... Lets go overboard and say 50 people.. thats a big imaginary number but for the sake of argument lets use it.. 50 people vs the THOUSANDS of mtronic saws sold.. thats a small percentage.. take into account that most these were resolved with a trip to the dealer and its negligable. 1000s of saws sold, happy saw users dont complain on the internet.. they use their stuff happily. thats why you only see negative remarks.. the happy people , ( vast majority of owners) are slinging saw dust.. if you want to stay old school, i respect that..but dont bad mouth good stuff because you dont get it.

@lucymoss1336

2 жыл бұрын

Í

@mateobrainardo4770

Жыл бұрын

@@no.step.on.snek.2423 Perty sure you work for Stihl on their propaganda “team” And have never worked on a chainsaw in your life.

I suppose the fuel injection system is made in China just like the current non adjustable Zama (which Stihl now owns) carburetors. I believe the current ignition systems are made in Italy. It will be interesting to see if they continue to make them in Italy. So much for the Stihl products being made in the USA. They are assembled in the USA with at least two sub-systems being made outside the USA. The Bosch plugs are no longer made in Germany. It would be nice to know exactly what percentage of a given product is made in the USA. I am glad they are assembled in the USA. It would be much better if they were 100% made in the USA!

@danhenderson783

10 жыл бұрын

Pretty naive statement. Made in USA simply means higher prices, nothing more. After they are engineered I don't care who builds them. Thanks your local Marxist union for driving manufacturing out of the USA

@brianscottdubois7515

10 жыл бұрын

Yea, It is always the Union's fault. This type of bull shit attitude is what is wrong with this once great Nation. We currently have communism for Big Business. We have welfare for Corporate america. You may not care who builds them. It is too bad when the guy next door is no longer employed. It will make a difference when it is you or someone in your family. It could never be mismanagement's fault or the greed of the parasites called CEO's. The next time you enjoy a forty hour work week, overtime, paid vacation day, health and welfare, safer working conditions, etc. thank a Union and the members who fought for workers rights. It make one hell of a difference to me where they are made.

@matthewnelson2690

10 жыл бұрын

What Stihl professional saw have you run that didn'y have an adjustable carburetor? Made in the USA doesn't mean anything other than a majority of the cost is U.S. based.

@jtmoody88jm

10 жыл бұрын

Matthew Nelson I can list quite a few Zama carbs that are notorious for failure. But if you like stihl you'll have to live with Zama carbs.

@matthewnelson2690

10 жыл бұрын

Justin, whether or not Zama carburetors are our aren't quality components isn't the issue. The issue is the original posters ignorance of a world economy, what made in the US legally means and assuming m-tronic means fuel injected (it doesn't). What 2 stroke carbs do you like by the way because I hate some fixed orifice walboros.

Sounds like trouble to me.

What happens when there's a bad solenoid and it runs it too lean?🤣

Looks cool on video but my saw died a month into ownership. Poor buying experience from the dealer period. That was last year saw hasn't ran since. Cannot recommend it ms362c.

I’ve heard to many horror stories of this crap! I’m going to buy the regular MS 261

my MS 261 is not a good saw. It overheats after 1/2 tank of gas . After 1 are 2 hrs you can use it agen

@joew9392

3 жыл бұрын

I sure wouldn't trade my 361 for one of them...

Garbage runs like junk and now I can’t adjust it

no

the new 362 are junk after a month of use the saws dont idle and u have to squeeze the throttle to get them to start when there hot and it not just one saw that has done this the company i work fotlr jas bought at least ten of them and there all runnig the same and we alsent them to stihl dealer to fix and they were sent back running the same junk product stihl should refund everybodys money that bought one

@bmlprailroader

7 жыл бұрын

Ken Phillips I thought I was a 2 cycle mechanic until I decided to fix 1....fuck this shit. ..

@mateobrainardo4770

Жыл бұрын

@@bmlprailroader Frikkan WIRES everywhere. LETS GO BRANDON

But then your fucked if that system malfunctions

Why not just keep it old school where everything was simple as that to fix. Get ride of the ethanol fuel. So fuel last for years. To much bs. Anyone know a good brand without this bs. Stihl just lost another loyal customer

@dkdanis1340

3 жыл бұрын

Hey by the way it's 21 century not 14th century anymore. It has been old school for 60 years something is expected to change they didn't discontinue any standard carb models. And what's more simple than chainsaw that adjusts everything by itself. This tech is pretty useful for those that actually do cutting everywhere not like those who brag about their carbs meanwhile they curse everything in garage cause they don't know how to adjust it and they cut 2 times a year. They certainly didn't lost any "loyal" customer cause no loyal customer will say something like that and probably won't even buy that chainsaw. Ethanol has lots of benefits in gas.

I have a MS661. The M-Tronic saws is crap, has been to the local dealer 3-4 times, now it is to the Stihl importer here in Norway. The saw has not been through 2 tanks of fuel yet! If it does not start at the first pull, it will not start at all. Gasoline is coming out the exhaust, stone dead machine due to flooding. The local dealer changed the complete carb, worked well for about one tank of gas, now it is dead again. Stay away from this crap, that is my advice.

@trashman1694

5 жыл бұрын

I live in America but family came from Norway. Pisses me off to see this electronic bullshit has made it's way into Stihl chainsaws. Maybe the E.U., U.N., U.S.A. bullshit emissions laws are too blame and not Stihl... but Fuck this shit.

@petarbasic5553

5 жыл бұрын

Please,I am thinking to buy 241 c M tronics ,also have offer from one local store brand new unused ALPINA prof 750,year of production 2000,Gilardoni piston.Please,advise me.

@sashaantidot2444

4 жыл бұрын

@@petarbasic5553 I could advise you. Take your grandpa Saw and be happy( i'm sure he has one of the oboslete but still working in the barn)

@mateobrainardo4770

Жыл бұрын

@@petarbasic5553 Petar, I advise you as a mechanic and chainsaw repairman that if the badge reads M-Tronic, RUN AWAY! M-Tronic, supersonic, bubonic! POFS, in my experience.

complete garbage m tronic sux just ask any professional arborist or any saw mechanic if u want to buy a saw that runs good for about 6 months then wont start when it warms up or stay running at a idle u have to hold the throttle wide openen wile pulling it to get it started then keep reving it non stop just to keep it running then when u bring it to the stihl dealer none of it is covered under warentee and nobdy can fix it so they say its fixed give it back to u only to come back with the same problem then buy it

@fernecrutatorul

3 жыл бұрын

You are so right my friend! I have bought a stihl ms 661 c manufactured in 2015 bought from Germany and I used it for about 30 hours in 2 years cutting firewood. One day after 10 minutes of work the saw shut down and dind't start. No spark. next day started, after 5 minutes shut down and wont't start. Igniton module is busted. WTF?? How you can advertised this shit as profesional? Paid for the saw 1500$. The best part , this model is not available in my country and ignition coil is not available. Number on coil is 1144 4700 D. If anyone had the same issue, please tell me the replacing part number... so I could order it online from amazon or ebay.

@mariafreeman7257

8 ай бұрын

Had my 261-cm for 10 years…. never had a problem….service it myself….. and yes , I am a pro…..

Who like minecraf

201tc worst saw I ever owned.nothing but problems from day 1

The mtronic is fine.. your just scared of it because you dont understand it . Its no harder to work on than any other saw. Old timers tendency to open a package, throw the owners manual away and wing it, is gonna be a problem.with new stuff. You guys act like they put a robot in the saw.. you use cars every day with efi. Nothing ever goes wrong with that processor. The whole damn car be falling apart but the ecu is doing fine

@dkdanis1340

2 жыл бұрын

When somebody learns something it looks like the best thing in the world but when somebody learns something even better it looks even better. Like caveman learning when meat is cooked is tastes better and what else they can improve ohh they learned if they put salt on meat it's even better (I'm not sure about cavemens but just an example). Mtronic was a thing for 10 years and by now i think they learned benefits. I think most of them are joking or just aren't educated on this stuff or they haven't cut a tree in their life cost was concern for them but it's literally super cheap to fix and it has diagnostics which further lower cost and it will never break if it's maintained. By now i think all of them love electronic controled chainsaws the video is 7 years old.

junk

Garbage! Go back to a design that worked!

Worked in the electronics industry for 35 years. Your car today is basically a computer controlled vehicle, airplanes use computers to fly, pacemakers and diabetes pumps are controlled by electronics but your worried about running a chain saw 😂 Yea, you could sure work on an old car ( all the time) easier, but compare that to a new car that will typically run 100-200k with little to no maintenance other than oil and brakes…..