Stihl Farm Boss would not start for nothin' the other day.( I had not used it since last year). Dumped out fuel and refilled with the fuel I mixed last year. Still no luck! I dumped out that fuel and purchased fresh, TruFuel 50:1 in the can and voila! after 3 or 4 pulls, the saw started up and is running like a champ! Had no idea the saw is that sensitive to stale fuel. Thanks for posting this video!

You make my day with this advice; I spend many hour trying to find the reason my stihl chainsaw won’t start, so I replaced the gas, and works like magic! Definitely Stilhl’s doesn’t like old gasoline! 😅

Jesus… my MS271 wouldn’t start on the day I bought it! It’s been hard to start ever since and is not even a year old. I am really starting to doubt Stihl at this point. I started using my 25 year old one!

@dentondunn4346

2 жыл бұрын

Just bought a 271 new yesterday and when choked it won't burp and very hard to start. About to take it Back and buy a 455 Rancher

@ricktempleton3107

2 жыл бұрын

These chain saws won't start not a fan. I'm getting another craftsman. Started everytime

@Bill_tyler

2 жыл бұрын

My still SUCKS too!!

@Bill_tyler

2 жыл бұрын

@C Dub yup

@Bill_tyler

Жыл бұрын

@@logos155 I ended up having to change the spark plug now it works every time. Also, mine is super touchy,if you choke it and keep pulling after the slightest burp it will flood if you don’t switch the choke to the middle position

Number 1 - spark plug. If I’m not going to be using my saw for several months. I empty all the fuel out and run the saw until all fuel is through the lines and allow saw to die. The carb and lines will gunk up if your running ethanol. Anytime your using mixed oil and it’s been sitting ALWAYS mix it good shaking from side to side. Every 100 hours new spark plug. I bought a “ newish “ Ms251 and still tinkering with it.

Thank you my friend. My problem was the same as yours. I dumped the old gas and refueled with True Fuel 94 octane and it brought the saw back to life.

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

@nazahelbrum3318

Жыл бұрын

Have you seen Texas chainsaw massacre?

Thanks. I picked one of these off the curb on my weekly "trash patrol". I find all kinds of stuff. The week before that was an antique bench grinder that just needed a new cord. Anyway I already verified spark and spark plug, compression, and clean filter. The fuel in it smelled janky so especially after seeing your results I'll swap that out next.

Thank you! Your vid saved me a trip to the repair shop- my fuel had gone stale in the can probably because it was about 6 months old before I mixed it!

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching...

Thanks for posting this video. I've been using decent fuel and still having occasional problems starting my farm boss. After watching your video I poured the fuel out from the saw into a clean white container and I was shocked by the bits of black crap that were sitting in the bottom. I've given it a decent flush and problem is now solved.

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching!

@Peav1

Жыл бұрын

@@flannelguydiy6458 mi o

@breannaoliver6316

4 ай бұрын

​@@flannelguydiy6458 excellent video. Happy new year 2024!! Soy Nuevo en TU canal.

@kevinhunt600

2 ай бұрын

Uuu

Another thing to watch out for on some Stihl saws is the ground wire routing that can wear off the insulation and cause an intermittent shorting. As it slowly erodes the ground wire it becomes more frequent. Easy to check and easy to repair with a bit of electrical tape or liquid tape stuff. Just follow the wire and examine it closely. If you see any open wire, fix it. Why the Stihl engineering group decided to route it behind something that can vibrate was probably an oversight but it can be maddening to discover, thinking it's a coil going bad or the carburetor out of its proper range.

Great job with you maintenance diagnostics! Just a small tidbit, always add SEAFORM additive to your 91% octane gasoline or higher fuel used.

@Steven-gv1ke

Жыл бұрын

I personally like Startron.

I've got a new 271 and it's a bear to start. Yes, place it on the lower setting til it burbs, then move to the next notch up; still (Stihl) hard to start ! Can also be hard to turn over when it sits for a few months. Now onto starting with the 'chain brake' on. You can forget it. It will not rev up and quickly stalls. In addition, no design should be so fuel finicky. Let me know if you're having similar problems.

@davidserens3143

7 ай бұрын

MYSELF AND 2 OTHER PEOPLE I KNOW HAVE THE SAME ISSUES, BRAND NEW FROM THE STORE, 2 DIFFERANT MODELS. I'LL NEVER BUY ANOTHER

Every time I get my STIHL out,first thing I do is put on my JOCK STRAP. They are a pain to start!

@juniorboyd6974

2 жыл бұрын

Get you the new E stihl - easy to start.

@dalehummel3515

2 жыл бұрын

Worst saw I ever owned.

@jimbanda

2 жыл бұрын

Plus the foot hold is tiny.

@Spearoman

Жыл бұрын

You’re not doing it right Rookie!

@meatpie1380

Жыл бұрын

Read directions 😂

Flannel, I have a Stihl mini tiller with the same engine you are working with here and I can not get it to even fire. I can rebuild this entire engine by myself and have no hesitations as far as my ability to do it correctly. I rebuilt the carburetor and it was spotless on the inside, not one spec of dirt or debris. I am getting somewhere around 140 PSI compression. I am getting a very strong spark and the spark plug is brand new and putting out a dark blue spark. I even took the flywheel off to make sure the shear pin was not sheared off and the timing being the culprit and no such luck. I've shot carb cleaner gas and brake cleaner in the carb and once again can not even get it to fire. I tried brand new Stihl 2 cycle fuel from a Stihl dealer and still nothing. The primer bulb is working properly and filling the chamber as it should. I think I about covered everything. Got any ideas?

@mafirearmsafety

Жыл бұрын

Make a boat anchor out of it.

@flannelguydiy6458

Жыл бұрын

I think you need at least 89 octane... or more

@rays9719

Жыл бұрын

@@flannelguydiy6458 No one really reads.

Always check the exhaust ports for mud dauber nests. I've had my fair share of no starts from that reason alone, while living in TN.

They should invent non pull start chainsaws

@atozproductions9660

10 ай бұрын

90% of the new ones are. You do a slow pull and then it starts on the release

TruFuel or VP Racing, 50-1mix in the can. They're ethanol free, with a 2 year shelf life after opening the can, and a 5 year shelf life if unopened. It's pricier, but worth it if you rarely use the small engines. You don't have to winter-prep with this fuel, meaning you don't have to empty the tank and run it dry. It won't break down. If you keep something running often, then fuel station gas will be ok. When it's getting close to the season where the machine wont be used for a good stretch, I'd switch over to the TruFuel and run through a tank or two on the last tasks, so it's in the carbs for the lengthy storage. You'll thank me later for this. 😁

In addition to well mixed fresh fuel, I'd just add that Stihl recommends gasoline with a rating of 89 (mid grade) or higher. Lower octane ratings may cause your saw to not run as good but their main concern for recommending a higher octane rating is to protect your engine from being damaged. Fuel with lower than 89 octane rating causes the engine to run hotter which increases the chance of seizing the piston. Despite what so many believe, fuel with higher octane ratings actually have higher flash points, therefore lower octane fuels will ignite easier and/or sooner than higher octane. I have a high performance engine in my car which demands a higher octane fuel because it's a very high compression motor. If I would run 87 octane, the heat created from high compression would cause the fuel injected into the cylinder to ignite before the spark plug fired (known as a ping or knock). I recently checked the compression on my Stihl chainsaw and it was 165 psi, which I consider to be in the mid to high compression range for a chainsaw.

I use nothing but Non Ethanol super in all my power equipment and in my ford f250 460 when pulling a heavily loaded trailer in the mountains (we live between the Pacific mountain range and the Cascade range). Yes, the fuel cost more but worth not having the headaches.

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

I had the same problem and took mine to the local hardware mechanic the next day. It started right up for him. He told me after these saws set for a long period of time the diaphragm in the carburetor can dry out. But after attempt of starting and letting it sit for an hour or two it would start no problem

use alcohol free fuel , and start every month for a minute or two...this is a must for all small engines, if small engine has a shutoff turn it off and let it run itself out...especially on generators..

Thanks...exact same problem. Dumped out old fuel tried using fuel that worked with other tools. Still didn't work. Went and got new fuel like you did in the video...started on second pull!

@flannelguydiy6458

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped....now you can help me by sharing this video on Facebook

It’s vert common that ANY petrol engine does not like to run on old fuel. In my 1970’s Triumph car I leave it with full tank over the winter plus I add a something called “fuel stabiliser” to the tank to make sure the fuel does not go stale. Modern petrol has ethanol in it and this can go stale in as little as 30 days…

Typical Stihl chainsaw not just hard to start but VERY HARD TO START!

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

I usually have no issues...

@dwh5512

2 жыл бұрын

@@flannelguydiy6458 I have one with less than 100 hours and now it won't start with the $16 a pint Stihl brand fuel.

@lancehughes4132

2 жыл бұрын

@@flannelguydiy6458 I sure do.

Don,t dispose of old fuel, its ideal for cleaning away oil dirt, cleaner in ultra sonic device in sealed container, brush cleaner, fire starter would you believe, and Molotov cocktails.

@vouvray59

2 жыл бұрын

Don't.

Pay a little bit more up in new Hampshire for ethanol-free fuel but it's worth it

Very helpful. Thanks!

Start next time in the Fall. I use pure gasoline, no alcohol, fill the tank with the pure gasoline with Stihl oil and STA-BIL. Crank the saw and let it run for 3 or 4 minutes. In the Spring empty the fuel out, again fill with pure gasoline, Stihl oil and this time Seafoam, then crank. This has worked for me for years!

@flannelguydiy6458

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

@tbh9524

2 жыл бұрын

When adding fresh 50;1 with stabil, use a paper paint filter in your funnel ... eliminates starting and carb problems...

Old fuel was my issue, changed, kicked up third pull... may thanks for the knowledge!!

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching...

This was/is a 'worthwhile' video. Thank you! Wow! What a lovely setting you have in your 'backyard'; God is Good!

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Dude you might be my new hero I'm going to try that as soon as I get home

I have what is basically a brand new stihl ms880 and im currently having this issue. Ive had the saw for a couple years but have only had the chance to use it 2 or 3 times. I have never had an issue starting it until now that it has sat for about year. I will definitely be getting new gas.

I've always regretted buying my farm boss. I've got other Stihl products that just run but the farm boss should have been named the fussy baby when it comes to cranking and running on that same gas the others don't care about.

You need to earth the spark plug on the cylinder head (preferably) to see if you actually do have spark.

@herrfinke1

Жыл бұрын

My Farm Boss isn't starting the next day after using and I don't see a boot my my plug... I thought I remember there being one?? It's just the round wire clip jabbed into the spark plug wire. I see a a spark, so likely no factor?

Simple !!!! Good. !!!! Thanks !!!!

Our fuel here in the UK doesn't suffer from these problems even when many years old. An old Honda Generator started fine and run out a full tank of fuel that was over a5 years old !! The addition of Ethanol to fuel is a killer of machinery.

@Nitroracer2332

2 жыл бұрын

Uk is so much better than usa

@Steven-gv1ke

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Untied States can thank the tree huggers from California for the ethanol in our fuel

Ran into the exact same problem with my Stihl saw, and my mix was made with ethanol free fuel. 2 other 2-cycle engines ran just fine with the stuff so I assumed something was wrong with the saw. It was kind of a last ditch effort to try a different batch of fuel before starting to get into the carb, etc. and who would of thought - on the 3rd pull it 'hit', I clicked the control lever up 1 position and it fired right up & ran like a champ. I guess these Stihl saws are pretty finicky on what fuel they want.

@flannelguydiy6458

Жыл бұрын

for some reason the saw is more tempermental than any other Stihl product I have owned. I have to use at least 89 octane in this saw. Meanwhile, I can use old 87 octane on the other Stihl machines and they all start on the first pull

@MMWhittemore1

Жыл бұрын

Something is up with Stihl ... My old saw starts like a champ. My new one, last 6 months MS391 was a bear to start and wouldn't idle if it did start. Now I am starting my saws for maintenance and the new one won't even chirp ...

great video, you're a natural

Ok just started playing this and watched the chain crawl as you tried to pull start your saw, either clutch spring is on its way out or the bearing is extremely dry.

Good video. Trouble I have is pulling rope. Did what was on video. Everything else checked out

You didn’t say how old the fuel was? That would help? Do you consider four month old fuel old? My Stihl is two years old. Never had a problem with it. Bucking a tree today and foolishly ran out of fuel. Filler er up now she won’t start. Any suggestions? Thanks for posting.

Beautiful looking place you have. Greetings from Wales!

Ethanol free only !!!!!! With some stabile you will never have starting problems

Man uyou just saved me a lot of worry. Did all these same things.. watched your video and said screw it.. dumped the gas and put new. bingo. Thank you~!!

@flannelguydiy6458

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching! please share the video

Thanks for the tip. I face the same problem too. I change the fuel. It work. Do I have to empty the chainsaw oil if not using a longtime?

@flannelguydiy6458

Ай бұрын

the chainsaw oil will make no difference. Hopefully you used SUPER high octane fuel.

@jamesundau8790

Ай бұрын

@@flannelguydiy6458 ....thanks for the information.

Good video on poor fuel quality. You had me at "aren't the birds loud?" Thank you for properly starting the saw on the ground w/your boot in the handle. However, please never start a chainsaw w/o the chain brake on - you could see the chain move when you were pulling the cord. I think that contributed to the hard starting. If that saw started running and kicked back when you were least expecting it, that would be bad. Always start a saw with the chain brake on, and engage the chain brake every time the saw is not actively cutting wood. Also, I swear by the pre-mix fuel cans from Husqvarna or Stihl. That fuel is precisely blended with the proper ratio of 2-stroke oil, it is ethanol free, and is stabilized for up to 2 years of storage. I use the Husqvarna version that is available at LOWE'S in my Husqvarna 480BTS leaf blower and it starts every season on the second pull (and has very little 2-Stroke smoke) Otherwise, thanks for a good video.

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

@johnny-james

2 жыл бұрын

I always thought they start better without the brake on.? I love my old Pioneer saws, they dont have a chain brake, which to be honest most of my saws stall out with the brake on I've gotten used to just shutting them off when I gotta move about or talk with another, I suppose I never trusted the chain brake like Id never trust a rifle safety, good video.

@ArrowItArchery

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnny-james I have never started any chainsaw with the brake on. I will never start a chainsaw with the brake on. Kickback only occurs when the blade is in something. Sometimes they're stubborn to get going. I damn sure don't need a chain brake adding to the problem. 🤣🤣

I have a ms250 cut firewood everyday. Was cutting fine then instantly stopped.now not starting.. I think we doubled up on 2stroke mix. What must I look at

Thanks for the video I’ll try this today

Thank you!

Stihls are very tempromental to fuel octane levels, always empty and dry store chainys when not using them for a long time,,,,

@intoxicode

2 жыл бұрын

I've done this and it still won't start had this problem ever since I bought the damn thing I literally empty it every time and now it still won't work

thanks buddy, sometimes its the least thing you suspect, great video, just subscribed. Regards .

I love the edited in photo on the front cover lol

The deer did it sneaky bastards

Good catch ! Nice job

@flannelguydiy6458

2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

M tronics is adjusting to the good fuel only, STIHL is great but picky about fuel!

If you have an air-compressor, the Air Filter can be taken apart and blow air from the "inside" out. (At 3:50, look closely at the lower right corner of the filter, facing us... you'll see two nibs in the molding. (Same on the other side.) Twist a flat-bit screwdriver on those nibs to separate the halves.) The two halves snap back together.

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the info...

@brandib264

2 жыл бұрын

@@flannelguydiy6458 There is no man more knowledgeable than one open to learning something new. He's the most intelligent man in the room. I know this so well bc my bf is a stubborn know-it-all that costs himself SO MUCH time. His way is the only way and I want to run my head thru a wall sometimes. Ughhh Anyway ended up here bc I'm doing some covert research on his saw not starting. Thanks for the info!!!!

Great Job! That did the trick....

Great video. Thanks for posting. My MS251 Wood boss is 3 years old, and has always been a Mother to start. Most times I would give up on it, use my Husqvarna for a few hours or day, then MAYBE the Stihl would start. I put some fresh fuel added to the old fuel In the saw, that was there for a year I guess. It absolutely would not start. Pulled the spark plug, vented the cylinder with a half dozen pulls. No start. Finally, I did what you said. Dumped all the fuel into my outboard motor tank. Bought the $10 a liter canned 92 Octane Pure Fuel Premix. Stihl started right up. I'll never use anything else in this POS saw from now on. My Husqvarna runs fine on the old fuel NOT a Stihl fan. My dealer was no help at all, and wanted $70 to do a service on the Shihl. One $10 can of Trufuel premix, and back on track.

@JimDon-xj5qp

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts, exactly. My Husky starts like a charm, every time.

@MikeG-qu9si

9 ай бұрын

Bought a brand new stihl 311...not impressed, nothing but problems!

This was a surprise problem. Fuel stabilizer might help. Another problem could be ethanol in the fuel. Ethanol absorbs water over time and the water sinks to the bottom of the tank. Then when it starts the carb sucks the water-ethanol mixture instead of gasoline. If it sits long enough the ethanol can convert to ethanoic acid and corrode metal parts. The fuel Stihl sells contains no ethanol.

@flannelguydiy6458

4 жыл бұрын

yeah I used to deal with the water/ethanol issue when I had my boat.

@SuperMurrayb

4 жыл бұрын

It is great that you shared your experience and showed exactly what to do to fix a fuel problem. That could save an expensive trip to the shop for repair. Thanks for doing a public service by posting this informative video.

@winstonsizemore2997

3 жыл бұрын

Find and purchase Real Gas that's Ethanol free and your small engines with thank you with better performance and longer life

@achunable

2 жыл бұрын

doesn't premium gas have no ethanol? if you go with that, no need for a stabilizer.

@SuperMurrayb

2 жыл бұрын

@@achunable Some premium gas is ethanol-free but governments everywhere are trying to force people to use ethanol blends. Check online to see if the brand you intend to buy is free of ethanol.

Isn't there a fuel filter on suction hose?

Check your exhaust screen also... if it's plugging up it will bog.. just found this out on ms311... thought it was the carb, nope.. exhaust was plugged

I only run high test non ethanol fuel and echo synthetic oil in my chainsaws n weed eater. If I have to dump fuel out I use a funnel with a screen n dump into my tractor 🚜 then I just top it off with a gallon of high test fuel. It doesn't matter if some oil is in the gas your engine will burn it off. Just don't do it a lot. Zoom zoom

I’ve seen the can fuel get some saws going that were not staying on.

That is why I spend the extra money and buy non ethanol gas just for my saws

@thomasgronek6469

2 жыл бұрын

me too, , , ,and mowers

Which Stihl this? What problem? I have Stihl 880 171 FS 560 HS 45

I have a stihl ms250 that i bought 1 year and 2 days ago. I started it the other day. It ran fine. Went to the mountains, and would not start (about 3,000 fo0t elevation change). Came back home, drained fuel from combustion chamber (pulled plug, turned upside down, and pulled chord until all flooded gas was out). Stihl wont start. Judging by the comments, stihl quality has gone to 💩 . That's too bad. I had a stihl ms250 (same saw) that i bought in 07. Ran great on regular gas (10%ethanol included) for 14 years, and replaced with a new $400 saw. What a disappointment!

I have a small poulan and I rebuilt the carb, installed a new gas line and filter. Changed the spark plug and made sure it had a spark. It has compression. It still doesn't start. It fires when I use starter build but that is all. Any suggestions?

@keithschneider6348

2 ай бұрын

Take the carb apart

It probably took that long for the first batch of fuel you replaced it with to work its way through. I have the same saw and it became unreliable after 10 years. I replaced air filter, spark plug, fuel filter, fuel line and carburetor and now it runs like the first day I bought it. I'm a retired firefighter and I've worked with a lot of hand crew guys and I never realized before talking to some of them about it, how commonplace it is to simply throw a new carburetor in out in the field.

I try to only run engineered fuel seems to do the trick but if I let her sit for too long I’ll still have to dump fuel, pull the plug and crank it a bunch of times to clear the lines then let it sit with the plug out for a few hours before reassembling and repriming the lines and it’ll jump to life

@flannelguydiy6458

Жыл бұрын

thank you for watching

I store all mine with the stihl premix and haven't had a fuel issue starting them the first time for the season. Just dump any remaining ethanol fuel, run it dry, then add the premix and run for a couple of minutes before storing. For my other machines I use sta-bil (I actually add it to every can I fill) and have never had a fuel issue when first starting them either. Also, my stihl two strokes are no't picky about their fuel either, so maybe your carb does need cleaned out?

@flannelguydiy6458

Жыл бұрын

the carb is fine, this saw just needs higher octane. Older fuel loses octane.

@thebrokenclock3001

Жыл бұрын

@@flannelguydiy6458 well, since it's been two years since you made the video and haven't had problems with the carb, I'm gonna say you're right haha! Good job presenting your troubleshooting process btw; videos like yours have gotten me out of a pickle more than once.

@flannelguydiy6458

Жыл бұрын

@@thebrokenclock3001 thanks for watching and for commenting back. It would help if you can like and share the video. Much appreciated

Wish these asshole companies would invent a chainsaw that actually starts once in a while

I have a Tanaka blower and trimmer and I have always used TruFuel.

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

Hello, This is an excellent video that allowed me to same time & money. With the same model, exactly same issue. Checked the sparkplug which was ok, wanted to check the carburator, when I saw this video. I remove fuel and gave a chance to Stihl MotoMix....and it works! What I dont understand is that other Stihl tools have no problem, but this chainsaw is really dependent upon the fuel quality.

That's all well and good, but what is your suggestion when the STIHL MS-290 runs great and then won't start at all??? Let it sit for two hours while you split the logs you just cut and it'll start right up after an hour or so. WHY???

@dalesmyth7398

Жыл бұрын

My 290 will do the same thing. Vapor locking. Try taking off the gas cap, let it set for a few seconds, then try it. Not saying yours is vapor locking, just saying having the same saw as you do, doing the same thing, and what I do works. And, usually have to choke it to start. I've learned over time how my 290 acts...oh by the way, do you notice say your cutting wood, and let it idle for say 1 minute or so, and start cutting, and it lags, boggy, bottoms out, or dies? Mine does this, again, vapor locking. That is when I notice it, and when it bogs a bit, I rev the saw up 3 or 4 times pretty good, and it straightens up and works like it ought to. Might try and see, it's free and easy.

@getdusty1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dale. I'll hafta give it a try.

@dalesmyth7398

Жыл бұрын

@@getdusty1 Yep, try that. And also, problems can come up when the screen in the muffler stops up with carbon, making the saw bog, and sometimes won't start. You may know this, but in case, take the nuts off the muffler, dig in there get the screen out, see if it's clogged, and burn that carbon off with a torch. I use a torch on a 1 lb. propane bottle, and it'll clean right up within a minute. With this gas thing in the video, maybe somehow I'm getting good quality gas at the 100% pump, but I've never had fuel to go bad. I mix up 5 gallons at a time before winter, and it'll last me quite a while, any leftovers, I use in spring for the weed eater. But, I mix my oil more like 45:1 instead of 50:1 ratio, I've done that now for 45 years in Stihl saws, never had an issue with bad gas, esp back in those days when we had good gas, but even today, never issues. And I use Quaker State 2 cycle oil in my Stihl's, I have 3 of them. Stihl oil is a joke really, Stihl is not in the business of making bar or fuel mix. Look at the bottle of Stihl 2 cycle, they used to say Made for Stihl by Valvoline...something of that wording. Just some tips from an old fart that's cut heaps of firewood for 45 years, hope it helps, have a good one!

My sthil 291, snug up the chain , it goes and it stops then its trying to go…..got a new needle bearing inside the clutch, new oiler, new sprocket, but still doing the same thing….got the brake loose too….help!

Use super unleaded it lasts a year + even with the ethanol... regular only lasts 1 month in any single cylinder engine .. it just wont run but u can use it in your car or something with more then 1 cylinder ..i did the test ik what im talking about...2.6 ounces of oil to 1 gal of gas .and note compression can't get any lower then 140... if it does its hard as heck to start .. good compression is 150 psi... anything over 155 is a blown head gasket belive it or not. I just noticed some people say fuel stabilizer could help... NOT ,it doesn't help one bit ..its a waste of money. I been repairing small engines and a car mechanic for over 35 years

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching...

Never use gas with ethanol. I also use Seafoam and Marvel. My 041 is 35 years old. Still runs, but I retired her as she was starting to fall apart. I like to mix a little rich, about 2 gallons instead to 2 and a half.

@thomasgronek6469

2 жыл бұрын

I water-wash the gasoline, then decant the gas off of the top, leaving the ethanol / water on the bottom. I never use gas in my 2-smokes any more, ,, , I use MotoMix or Truefuel.

What is it about Stihl lately? I have a Stihl saw, and a Husqvarna 450. The Husky starts every time--no matter the quality of the fuel. The Stihl is a constant pain, and is so temperamental.

@flannelguydiy6458

Жыл бұрын

it is the chainsaws that are the problem. All of the other stihl machines start on the first pull

Amazing how fuels today is crap....I deal with dozens of small engines repair... and 9 out of 10, issues with those small engines is fuel related. I tell and show people with ethanol and methanol additives in fuel...how that fuel absorbes moisture... people wonder why and how water gets into the fuel.. just set a glass jar on a work bench with fuel in it...most often, the fuel will go cloudy within a minute... What is that...well that is the ethanol and methanol based fuel sucking in moisture....

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching...

I have one of those Farmtec Holzforma G660's that is a cheap Chinese clone of the Stihl MS660. That thing will not start if I try to run the premixed fuel or slightly old mixed gas. It will only crank and run on fresh mixed gas.

Thanks bro 😊

@flannelguydiy6458

3 ай бұрын

Any time

You're flooding the thing! You put choke on until it fires once and then you take it off or end up with a flooded chainsaw every time.

Your buying the wrong gasoline. After three carburetor & cylinder block replacements at $200.00 per. to fix my Billy Goat leaf blower, my Authorized Cub Cadet Dealer repair guy shared a secret with me. Seek out & find "REC" gasoline, mix that with your Stihl oil. Your machinery will just purr & always start, even after the seasons with no stabilizers either A decade ago, I use to drive 30 minutes away from my house to buy "REC" gasoline. Nowadays I can buy it right down the street at my local Marathon station. Sometimes, people working at the station don't even know what it is. I put that gas in everything except my car. Use it mixed with oil or straight. Like me, you will think (this guy is nuts) How can there be special gas. Try it &Like me, you will believe.

I love my Stihl...when it works but honestly the chainsaws are a nightmare to start. I paid $450 for a farm boss and it floods if you look at it wrong. Can't tolerate fuel more than a month old. AND it complains about my cooking. WTF Stihl. Figure out how to start a chainsaw. My Ryobi starts with old tar. It is a horrible saw but it starts. Figure it out.

How old was your old fuel? An estimate in weeks or months would be helpful.

@flannelguydiy6458

5 ай бұрын

I would say two months. However, I think for these machines you need to use higher octane fuel.

@jamesmordovancey517

5 ай бұрын

@@flannelguydiy6458The fuel I have in question is probably five months. I've already disposed of it and will not make same mistake again. Thanks, Flannel Guy.

THANKSGIVING

Good job tracking things down. Now ya need to do a carb adjustment, bud. Idle is out of whack (see moving chain at idle)

@flannelguydiy6458

3 жыл бұрын

yep... that is a different video!

@mdmoto1

3 жыл бұрын

@@flannelguydiy6458 Should also have the chain brake on when starting. The Spark plug needs to be grounded in order to get a spark to jump the electrode gap. Caution about putting the spark plug near the cylinder head in order to see the spark, if your engine was flooded doing that will blow the flooded fuel out of the cylinder on to the spark plug which if sparks will start a fire (I saw a guy burn the carby off his lawnmower doing that,). Air cleaner, Ideally split your air cleaner element open (using the screwdriver end of your Stihl tool) and those elements can be washed under a tap (and then dried) . As per Jason's comment re moving chain at Idle, Turn your "LA" screw Anticlockise until the chain stops and then another 1/4 turn. Good luck.

Fuel is BY FAR the most common chainsaw problem I’ve had. Changing your wpark plug is a waste 99% of the time.

I have a new Stihl chainsaw bought last year and know zero about it. Naturally, I went to the manual as it was very hard to start. Use fresh fuel, 89 octane, with quality oil. Stihl discourages additives that may damage plastic parts. Fyi.

@flannelguydiy6458

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

Ethanol fuel is horrible for 2 cycles buy the pre mixed or ethanol free fuel and mix your own. Also a BIG fan of Sea Foam for lengthy storage periods.

Probably a combination of poor gas and the filter. If your air filter is blocking air flow, the mixture will be too rich for combustion. Fresh gas won’t burn without correct air/fuel mixture either. Good video

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching...

@jamesfarley5183

2 жыл бұрын

Fresh new fuel is best but most times the gas is never very fresh but will start and run. fresh new fuel has higher octane and can run leaner ok,but older yet still good(not stale) will start and run on a richer mix ie carb. mix screws a little richer. old stale gas will lock up 4 cycle valve stems.

@karlrovey

Жыл бұрын

You also need gas to actually get to the carb, something seems to be a problem for the saws that don't have a primer valve.

this whas helpfull.very helpfull.

Thank You Man

@flannelguydiy6458

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching! please share the video

I have many Stihl machines of various types. Every so often one plays up. My MS230 chainsaw wouldn't start.I thought the spark was weak and changed the ignition coil with still no start. I had another plug,not new, but no start. Ordered new plugs in post. Next day added some premix into the plughole still no start. Last option a partly screwed in a loner type car plug,immediate start!. Put the old plug back in and it ran perfectly. These plugs are shorting when cold under compression. Took my Stiht hedge trimmer that also wouldn't start and no start. Removed plug,heated it up with little blow lamp around threaded part,not ceramic core at electrode as it can crack and drop in bore ruining engine. Anyway fitted warm plug and immediate start. I believe the chemicals in fuel ane 2 stroke oil are shorting the plugs. Yes change them but this top tip will get you running. It's also possible that water in fuel is mitigated by this very old school trick.

@flannelguydiy6458

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching! please share the video

Using the stihl motomix premixxed fuel works for me. Might be cheaper options i suppose

Where is the fuel oil?

Is the fuel premixed

@flannelguydiy6458

2 жыл бұрын

yes

Thx.

Mines brand new and im having a very hard time getting a full pull..it stop after about 6 inches,I have blisters on my fingers...never had this kin of problem with my other stihl saws...

@flannelguydiy6458

3 жыл бұрын

sounds like you may need to take it back to the dealer

I paid $600 for this so I would not have this problem. It is frustrating. Where/how are you seeing the spark?

@flannelguydiy6458

3 жыл бұрын

the spark plug was up against the metal housing where the plug screws in. Keep it about 1/8 of an inch away and pull the starter cord. you should see the spark bridge the gap to the piece of metal. This sounds like a new video that I need to make

Put the new mixture then start