As it has already been discussed, this is not a speed skating technique tutorial. It is a freeskating tutorial to help casual skaters develop habits that will help them to better accelerate and maintain speed, especially in urban settings and on the ice. If you know the toe flick is not for your application then that’s fine, but any negative comments toward me or my viewers will promptly be removed, so don’t waste your time.

@bxl2012

4 жыл бұрын

Hi, I am a bit late to this video and the comments. The answer to the whole discussion if you should do a toe flick or a push with the heel seems to be this: are you skating with a rockered set-up or not. I do both, speed skating and inline hockey on rockered frames (and I seem to be a huge exception as most people specialise on one specific style). Guess what, with the flat wheel set-up I push with the heels, with the rockered set-up I do the toe flick. No need for anyone to start a fight on what's right and wrong when both styles have their specific application - if you pretend to know better, then you are just in your mono application mode and you don't know that there are other styles to skate. Peace everyone!

@DeezSkates

4 жыл бұрын

I know it’s late, but adding to that, I think it’s a misconception by people who believe I’m implying that you should only push with the toe.. which is not true. I’m only implying that at the end of the stride the toe must strongly flick off of the surface. If you watch this technique video of Pascal Brand explaining the speed skating stride, you can see clearly while the video is slowed down just how strong his toe flicks off the contact surface at the end of each stride. There is a graph of his foot that demonstrates the amount of pressure on each point of the foot and you can see that the toe is the final place that pressure exists as he lifts his foot from the ground, pointing his toe at the end of each stride. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gYp1ltx6ka_fdJs.html

There really isn’t anything like this on KZread this is a great idea and really well executed

This video has so much value that no matter when you see it or how many times you see it, it is always extremely important for all skaters regardless of their level. Thank you so much for share!!!! ❤️

You have a real art for teaching man. Love your tutorials. Keep em coming 👍

Thanks a lot for sharing all this knowledge ! I find it really helpful !!!

At 6:10 you emphasized toe flick as part of good stride. Now, I don't want to discredit what you presented but I heard from numerous experienced rollers (one of them is a speed skater), that you should always strive to push with your heel deep into the stride and that toe flick is a pretty serious error since it creates a tendency for your leg to go back instead of to the side and consequently lose grip with all 4 wheels much sooner (getting less power out of the stride). It will also throw you off balance at higher speeds. Again, I really like your videos and hope you continue doing them but I had to point this out for other who learn here to be critical of this cue (I suggest everyone to try both ways and make their own conclusions). Thanks for the energy you put into inline community.

@DeezSkates

5 жыл бұрын

That’s interesting. I have never heard that perspective before. It is true that you should not release the heel early and that you want to maintain full surface contact as long as possible. However, a toe flick should not stop you from doing that as it is a final step after your foot reaches full extension. As a disclaimer, I am not teaching speed skating, but I have been skating 31 years and this is the first time I’ve heard that. I was taught to toe flick as part of ice skating through the Laura Stamm system. Laura Stamm was a competitive figure skater and has coached NHL players since the 70s so I trust her on this one. ;)

@DeezSkates

5 жыл бұрын

I always like to show my work, so I will leave this reference from the Laura Stamm site so you can do more of your own research. And thanks for commenting. Thoughts, suggestions and questions are always welcome. If something I am teaching is incorrect, I want to know as soon as possible so I can correct it! www.laurastamm.net/The-Toe-Flick.aspx

@Sushipea

5 жыл бұрын

@@DeezSkates Speed skaters usually say "push to the side, push on the heel" kzread.info/dash/bejne/gYp1ltx6ka_fdJs.html In my case, toe flick is necessary for follow-through the kick, and to generate next cycle of the landing.

@DeezSkates

5 жыл бұрын

I understand. I should have clarified “This is NOT a speed skating tutorial.” It is a basic tutorial on skating in general sense. In the context I was taught, it is a necessity ONLY AS A FINAL MOVEMENT to generate power out of your last bit of extension. Hockey players train their toe flick, and even Bill Stoppard preaches training your toe flick for city skating. Speed skating is its own, totally different beast. I do not speed skate and none of my videos are geared toward speed skating (other than one novice review I made last year).

@DeezSkates

5 жыл бұрын

Again, it is a final extension of the foot after you have pushed evenly to the very end of your stride. This will happen in any form of skating because of the natural way your foot lifts from the ground. If you don't, it will look awkward when you lift your foot to re-chamber back to center. I advocate training it because it fits with many other, more advanced moves such as the cross over and backward cross over. I simply don't speak for speed skating because I don't do it, but that does not mean that ice skating technique does not work across much of inline skating. It does.

Always learning.. Nice video man, great instruction, love the smooth outro too

Great advice - thanks for putting it together. As a relative noob it's nice to know I'm doing some things right, and always great to do some fine-tuning of the basics - there's always more to learn. Especially, for me, backwards and skating down hills! Please keep these excellent tutorials coming.

Really helpful. I am working now on my basic stride and find your edge theory very useful. Thank you.

I seriously started paying more attention to my toe flick soon after watching this....wow! Thank you for this!! It’s making my skating Venice to Santa Monica and back so much better. You’re a great instructor!!

Great breakdown, cures common problem some skaters develop, love your videos.

Thanks, this gives me hope. I put on my new inlines and my goodness, I'm a wreck. Everything I knew about standing and walking had NO value whatsoever with wheels on my feet. It's easy to take for granted the traction we normally get, which all disappears when you have skates on. I've done lots of roller skating in my life, and I'm not bad at it, but inline skates are entirely different. I'll try these exercises and see what happens.

Great vid man!

U and dirty deb are the best skate instructors

You look like Howard Cunnigham. Thanks. I'm really struggling on striding,but I'll try the exercise

excellent tutorial

You have a new alumn from Florence (Italy) . You are great👏👏👏👍

Nooooooo not the toe stops!!! I rely heavily on mine and you called me out on it. Definitely impairs my jam skating abilities, but I'm so scareddddd!!!!

Art class in the making....

Could u do an indepth mohawk tutorial. Step by step with edge theory

@DeezSkates

5 жыл бұрын

Ya know.. that's not a bad idea!

@ertfgghhhh

5 жыл бұрын

@@DeezSkates thanks. Plz do the examples in both quads and inlines. And provide a step by step instruction to execute the moves. If u look at debs recent videos on outdoor skating instructions and latest how to stop instruction videos, u can see how she teaches novices to do moves that others need real-time instructors to learn. Plz keep doing what ur doing cause that edge theory lesson helped me alot.

Huge thanks for gr8 teaching, hope someone can help me out here - to be as maneuvering as possible on my 4 wheel Seba High Deluxe, which setup will you suggest - and which wheel compound etc.? Right now I have straight/normal setup with 80 mm /85A wheels - should I take out that heel damping piece - sitting with velcro under the heel of the inner "sock"? Which triskate - w. size, frame and boot - would you suggest for me, as an average levelled freeskater?

Never fail to surprise with the knowledge! What is your rocker setup on the Evo’s (down-down-front)?

@DeezSkates

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That’s exactly the setting I’m using. Front is stationary and I have the back two dropped. Nice balance between agility and stability. I actually got a new frame in the mail that you will be seeing soon! ;)

@heigolepla3946

5 жыл бұрын

Deez Skates I’m gonna take a wild guess that the new frame is gonna be 3x100. Don’t need to answer that, I’ll find out with the reveal.

What are the limitations of fitness inline skates? Like what kind of skating can done on it n to what limit plz let me know

good lesson for me,im a beginner, otherwise i wonder how you put on your skating shoes very fast inside that telephone booth

How long will it take to learn the Mohawk

I still don't get the toe flick, is it like pushing with your toes instead of your edges? Thanks

@DeezSkates

3 жыл бұрын

No. You push with your inside edge as usual, but as you reach you full length of leg extension you extend the foot at the very end.

Plz teach hockey stop

@DeezSkates

5 жыл бұрын

I covered the hockey stop in my last tutorial titled "Getting Started and How To Stop." You can find a link for it in the description of this video! ;D

@ertfgghhhh

5 жыл бұрын

@@DeezSkates my bad

@ertfgghhhh

5 жыл бұрын

U know what, i was so busy with the edge lessons and theory and much dreaded tstop that i didnt pay much attention to ur other 2 stops (powerslide and hockey). I have 78A wheels that would make those two stops hard to do in theory. Also, i found a hybrid wheel hopefully. I just purchased the blackjack and gonna get the fundae wheels. They are grippy outdoors but somehow works wellon slick surfaces too. When that skate comes in, i can try the hockey stop. It bothers me that i automatically did it as a kid but cant now. I think maybe because in the early 80s, we used only one wheel for everything. It was good on asphalt and fast in rinks