I love Lamar but this a stupid question😂 Nobody is on Pat’s level. They just compare other players to him to fill out the segment.

@kleatise52

6 ай бұрын

Next year it will be burrow again.

@og_mante5138

6 ай бұрын

@@kleatise52 No one is close to what Pat has accomplished so far. Burrow can’t even stay healthy. That’s a no.

@dannenpowell8866

6 ай бұрын

Yep

@kleatise52

6 ай бұрын

@@og_mante5138 I’m just saying, once mahomes wins, they will stop with Lamar and try somebody else. Or maybe josh Allen forever

@tylernaylor3233

6 ай бұрын

Didn’t Brady beat him in afc championship 2 times and then went to the nfc and beat him 31-9 in the superbowl? Lmao

The AFC championship game is the Patrick Mahomes Invitational. This isn't a debate

@bo0gi3

6 ай бұрын

He’s lost in his own invitational then.

@jaybrook07

6 ай бұрын

@bo0gi3 yeah he's not immune to losing. It's just amazing that since he's been a starter he's never not been in the AFC championship game

@DreSpeezy

6 ай бұрын

It’s the Chiefs invitational. Last time I checked there still the reigning Superbowl Champions. Lamar has to win first. This ain’t a conversation.

@Frankieefootballmundial

6 ай бұрын

The last time a conference championship game that didn’t feature Patrick mahomes , Tom Brady or Arron rodgers was 2009

@RobertSmith-tu7rl

6 ай бұрын

​@@Frankieefootballmundial arod played in the NFC ..... Sheesh y'all need to stop talking lol

I feel like since people want the Chiefs to lose soo bad because they have been winning the last few years they are just throwing out nonsense because be fr how are you even comparing a guy that has won 2 rings, 2 MVPS, Been to 6 consecutive AFC Championships, and won of those 3 AFC championships. You can give Lamar his flowers but don’t downgrade Patrick Mahomes or even compare him because he Lamar doesn’t even have half of Mahomes Rapsheet.

@marceldwayne8491

6 ай бұрын

Having said that Ryan Tom Brady's extensive experience and impressive track record set him apart from Patrick Mahomes since of course, Mahomes doesn't have his Rapsheet. While Mahomes is undoubtedly a talented player, he has yet to establish the same level of dominance and consistency that Brady has demonstrated over his career. Therefore I have no idea why people even mentioned Mahomes as the GOAT

@maxcenevil

6 ай бұрын

That has nothing to do with the question. The question is who is more revolutionary which means...change.

@marceldwayne8491

6 ай бұрын

@@maxcenevil - Aaron Rodgers

@MrRocket100

6 ай бұрын

@@marceldwayne8491that’s exactly what I was about to comment chiefs fans hate for people to compare mahomes to anybody in the nfl while simultaneously trying to compare him to someone who has 3 times the amount of achievements than he does it is very disrespectful especially when people have already crowned him the best ever ALREADY😂😂😂 and not even to mention that Tom himself destroyed mahomes in the Super Bowl and beat him in his MVP year

@marceldwayne8491

6 ай бұрын

@@MrRocket100 if I could give 100,000 thumbs up bro I would The delusion of fans is almost like politics! Like my dude, where speaking on resume not talent just pure raw concrete evidence. Hands down Tom is the GOAT without a question. Could Mahomes challenge the resume of Tom? Absolutely but at the moment he hasn't even surpassed dare I say, Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning. BEFORE he even gets in conversation with Tom, yes he needs to surpass those guys. That's how far the resume of Tom Brady is. Sorry those are the raw numbers, don't blame the reader.

Kimberley has the worst takes always! She can’t even communicate she gets lost in her points and makes zero sense! Absolute HORRIBLE analyst!

@ti2968

6 ай бұрын

She doesn't even look like she believes in what she is saying 😂

@andrewchiu6226

6 ай бұрын

@@ti2968 Yup. It looked like the producers wanted to have this debate, and somebody had to volunteer for Lamar.

@donovanprice3321

6 ай бұрын

Kimberly is horrible analytically good God almighty!

@MaxyDean13

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, don’t think I’ve heard a single take from her that is somewhat good, always terrible. Put Mina Kimes on instead if you need a female analyst

@rickambres8683

6 ай бұрын

Finally someone else noticed

Kimberley is hardcore REACHING😂😂😂

@phonseng-hs6tp

6 ай бұрын

She remind of that black spike person for Biden. Says a lot but says nothing

@glennkreisel7943

6 ай бұрын

@@phonseng-hs6tp 🤣🤣🤣🤣

How is Mahomes not most revolutionary he’s doing all this at age 27 he’s here every year even with his most trash squad he’s every had . Won 2 out of 3 chips

@RobbieStacks90

6 ай бұрын

Those are team accomplishments. His team isn't trash; the defense is carrying him. If Mahomes played for the Panthers or the Cardinals, they'd still be terrible. Mahomes get far more credit than he deserves.

@jjpark1989

6 ай бұрын

He’s actually 28, about to turn 29 this year, but yeah. He’s on that Brady track right now for sure. Maybe might even pass him. Time will tell. As long as Andy Reid doesn’t retire

@freddygaulman5493

6 ай бұрын

​@@RobbieStacks90you can say the exact same for Lamar if he was on those teams. Before last week he was 1-3 in the playoffs and had everyone in media giving him a pass because he didnt have "weapons"

@BoltTheEmolga

6 ай бұрын

The question isn’t who’s “better” or “greater”, the question is who’s more “revolutionary”. Mahomes is basically the pinnacle of QB play, but at the same time it’s slightly replicable, even if at a much worse rate. Lamar though, is one of one. There has never been anything like him, Vick included, and helped revolutionize how people look at QBs due to the different style succeeding so well. Mahomes is clearly better, there’s no contest there. But that wasn’t the question.

@derrickmason7457

6 ай бұрын

@@freddygaulman5493 you can’t say he’s a 2x mvp and say his teams weren’t good enough

Lamar is my favorite QB in the league, but if we're looking at this objectively: Mahomes has been more revolutionary. GMs are looking for the next Mahomes, not necessarily the next LJ as I think the league are still catching up on really seeing his value to the game. Patrick Mahomes has changed the way we view good throws vs. bad throws much like how Steph Curry changed the way we look at good shots vs. bad shots in the NBA. Lamar hasn't quite had that degree of impact on the game. I'm rooting hard for Lamar and the Ravens in these playoffs, but the answer is Mahomes respectfully.

@andrewchiu6226

6 ай бұрын

Yup. Just like with Steph - all the kids are now throwing like Patrick, and all the coaches are yelling at them to master the fundamentals before the no look, non-platform stuff. He has also set the expectation that all new QBs should have dual threat ability even if they don't feature exceptional footspeed, which Pat doesn't.

@amrey3628

6 ай бұрын

Great analogy. Yeah, Lamar (my favorite player) is like pre championship versions of KD, Joker or even Giannis. It's almost magical seeing what they can do out there but it's going to take a while for that next guy like them to be found. Revolutionary is a big word too because Steph really did change the game & they still looking for that next Steph Curry though. Jokic has & still is in the midst of shifting how do you prepare for a baller like him. Same with Lamar but he Really would solidify it for the naysayers with a ring. I'm absolutely hoping he wins one too. 🙏🏼

this is like saying Westbrook is more revolutionary than Curry it’s nonsense

@johnbradley4130

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!!!

@christopherporter5472

6 ай бұрын

Perfect comparison

Why do they always spend a week talking about Josh Allen after he loses? Media rarely talks about a losing QB this obsessively. Media wants him to win SO BAD.

@goofy_xf6223

6 ай бұрын

He’s the NFL poster boy

@legitdragon6202

6 ай бұрын

They need to coddle him and tell him what a special boy he is when they lose.

@unclephillymya

6 ай бұрын

Sure buddy they will talk about J Allen ONLY WHEN HE WINS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you’re on crack and you need to leave the internet

@MovieMicah

6 ай бұрын

because he’s amazing yet hasn’t won anything

@AJ-jl3fj

6 ай бұрын

Bruh I’m tired hearing about Lamar ain’t nobody say nothing bad about that man it’s they opinion then yall gone be mad when mahomes bust his behind

Lamar vs mahomes will be showtime 🍿

@RobbieStacks90

6 ай бұрын

That's not a compelling match-up. The real quarterback battle in the championship games will be between Purdy and Goff, two gunslingers who know how to run pro-style offenses. I would never want my son to watch the other two if he wanted to develop into a real quarterback.

@kcmo8164

6 ай бұрын

@@RobbieStacks90what is a real Quarterback

@RobbieStacks90

6 ай бұрын

@@kcmo8164 Someone who understands the position and knows how to dissect defenses. We keep hearing about these running QBs and how great they are, but look at happened when Jalen Milroe went head to head against J.J. McCarthy. Did Michael Vick ever win a Super Bowl? He never even played in one. What about Steve McNair, Vince Young, Jalen Hurts? It doesn't work in the long run.

@user-xl8zy6bp7b

6 ай бұрын

​@@RobbieStacks90This is a laughable take bc Brock Purdy didn't look lik that last week and not only that but Purdy is in run first system. He is not slinging nothing all over the field.

@goofy_xf6223

6 ай бұрын

@@RobbieStacks90we know what you really want to say. You’re saying the real QB matchup is between 2 white QBs. It’s not about dissecting defenses or anything else. Brock Purdue and Goff are not Gunslingers. That was a dead giveaway that your statement is complete bulljunk! Way to be a clown

Kimberly is Hating 😂😂😂 I love Lamar but as of today Mahomes is already a First Ballot Hall of Famer if he retires today!😮

@breonmitchell2443

6 ай бұрын

Lamar 1st ballot 2 mvp he automatic to😂😂😂😂

@drm2364

6 ай бұрын

No Super Bowls and not enough stats yet.@@breonmitchell2443

@jeannethompson4048

6 ай бұрын

She’s a moron and I’m not sure why they invite her on the show.

“Don’t sing. Don’t dance. Stop.”😂😂😂😂

@NijaGamer95

6 ай бұрын

Had me dead 💀

@sierrasymone7590

6 ай бұрын

he wasn't having none of it 😂😂

Mahomes 6 yrs in 2x mvp 2x Super Bowl MVPs 6x afccg 2nd player ever to throw 50 td 5k yds Tied 1st all time in most playoff games with 5+ td passes Tied first all time in most td passes in single postseason Ranks 1st all time in Passer rtg Td int ratio Completion % Yards per game in playoffs and regular season Fastest qb to 10K yds Fastest qb to 15k yds Fastest qb to 20k yds Fastest qb to 25k yds Fastest qb to 100 td Fastest Qb to 150 td Best winning % of all time when trailing 10+ at the half in playoffs 1st qb ever to trail entire playoffs by 10+ points and win the Super Bowl He’s the greatest ever

@sirrmanning2769

6 ай бұрын

If Patrick wins it this year ABSOLUTELY! I believe he is the most talented and that includes Dan Marino and some of the older QB's that had lasers for arms.

@qestym8777

6 ай бұрын

Has a long way to go before he catches tom

@helloman3676

6 ай бұрын

He can never catch Tom Brady. Losing to Tom Brady hurt his legacy forever. The better Mahomes resume gets, the better Brady will look. Brady will always get the he beat him straight up arguments. Its not an opinion but facts.

@juscameron7439

6 ай бұрын

@@helloman3676That’s a silly argument.

@helloman3676

6 ай бұрын

@@juscameron7439 Its not an argument, it's just facts. When the chip was on the line, Brady straight up beat Mahomes. 🤷‍♂

I think Patrick maholmes is the best qb for the NEW generation

@Frankieefootballmundial

6 ай бұрын

More like the best quarterback of the 2020s

@RobertSmith-tu7rl

6 ай бұрын

​@@FrankieefootballmundialI think Lamar is right there .

@SycoticForeverNeverAF

6 ай бұрын

@@RobertSmith-tu7rlhell no lmao.

@calebmayfield8285

6 ай бұрын

@@RobertSmith-tu7rlgtfo when Lamar makes 6 AFC championships in a row and two rings we can talk lmao y’all want to crown him so bad when he only has 2 playoffs wins

@RobertSmith-tu7rl

6 ай бұрын

@@calebmayfield8285 lol of he gets 2 rings he will be where Mahomes is as I said many times. MAHOMES had the advantage of having stars and a HOF coach to begin with Lamar will an is catching up. I know what my qb can do . No the media wants to crown Mahomes Soo bad Brady is the goat. And always will be.

I haven’t seen one good Kimberley take ever

@amrey3628

6 ай бұрын

Mina Kimes would be perfect to have on air with them on these days.

I remember when it took Stephen A to see Mahomes throw the left hand pass to say he’s a good qb, man time flies.

Who gave Kimberley a job??

@Bang-bangNinersgang-hv5yt

6 ай бұрын

Apparently Lamar the way she defends that dude

@Boomi_Dog

6 ай бұрын

Diversity hire

@julesinel

6 ай бұрын

Yea, who? great question.

@vTrueDad

6 ай бұрын

She’s great

@Bang-bangNinersgang-hv5yt

6 ай бұрын

@@vTrueDad at only defending Lamar

she went around in a circle to regurgitate what everyone says

Keep that same energy Monday that you had for Josh Allen

@justinbellamy1399

6 ай бұрын

He’s been better than Allen

@acephas3

6 ай бұрын

They won’t, for either QB.

@Jdcjr1991

6 ай бұрын

Josh Allen is OVERRATED they been wanting him to beat Patrick Mahomes but he’s just a full back at QB

@tmc31390

6 ай бұрын

😂 they’ve been keeping that energy for Lamar. It’s Josh Allen who has been getting the benefit of the doubt despite him accomplishing almost nothing.

@legitdragon6202

6 ай бұрын

What? If he plays well except when it matters most and loses, blame the rest of the team and tell him what a special boy he is?

It's Mahomes By Far, funny story is I remember a scout saying Lamar would be another Taysom Hill 😂😂😂

@dfwherbie8814

6 ай бұрын

By definition lamar is revolutionary because if he’s able to pull off the final win, he will change how we and the league views the QB position. Mahomes is revolutionary in a different way, but in a way that elevates the traditional role of a QB. Hope this makes sense lol

This chick on the left doesn’t know much about football, or maybe she doesn’t come prepared. I don’t know I always just fast forward through her parts

Kimberley always sounds she is inlove with Lamar lol 😂

They’ve been waiting to have this convo but Lamar never made it this far to face mahomes😂

@Lrod0323

6 ай бұрын

He is still the best qb rn

@smoove3968

6 ай бұрын

@@Lrod0323he’s not

@maverick33guy95

6 ай бұрын

​@@smoove3968mahomes is s tier.. the debate is for 2nd and 3rd between Allen burrow and Lamar

@youngpicassoart7394

6 ай бұрын

@@maverick33guy95bro said Allen💀

@maverick33guy95

6 ай бұрын

@@youngpicassoart7394 yeah Allen is top 5 at his position

Lamar can't hold Mahomes jock strap

@bgstv10001

6 ай бұрын

Ummm okay!!!!!

@AntLowkey1k

6 ай бұрын

@@bgstv10001you’re drunk.

@bgstv10001

6 ай бұрын

@@AntLowkey1k ok

@AntLowkey1k

6 ай бұрын

@@bgstv10001 but aye I can see why you f*** Lamar though he's nice for real.

stop letting kimberly on first take bru lol

Holy cow, Dan! You finally give Mahomeboy the credit he deserves after glazing Josh Allen for a month straight even after a loss

Molly and Kimberly look fine today 😂😂 only reason I watched today

Mahomes is so good his play style went from being a negative and described as “reckless terrible mechanics turnover prone” to being a mandatory trait for a 1st round qb

@thewanderer6388

6 ай бұрын

That says more about the ability of NFL scouts to evaluate talent.

11:16 When Stephen A. did that I CRACKED UP_ It was PERFECT!!!💯💯😂😂😂

I’m not a chiefs but if I could pick any qb on my team in the history of the sport, I’m taking mahomes.

How on earth did that woman get her job? She is absolutely terrible at this

How can you be revolutionary with no wind or rings to show for?????? CRAZY

@jau.tumn14

6 ай бұрын

you realize football is a team sport right?? 🤦🏾‍♂️

@MovieMicah

6 ай бұрын

@@jau.tumn14fr people need to learn to separate team achievement from player achievement

By definition lamar is revolutionary because if he’s able to pull off the final win, he will change how we and the league views the QB position. Mahomes is revolutionary in a different way, but in a way that elevates the traditional role of a QB. Hope this makes sense lol

@isasooner5

6 ай бұрын

No, we’ve seen players like Lamar in the past. Vick, and others. We’ve never seen a qb with mahomes’ skill set! The precision and accuracy of Rodgers, Brady and manning and the gunslinger mentality of Favre and the best most revolutionary passing skills and angles and improvisation of anyone we’ve ever seen!

@dfwherbie8814

6 ай бұрын

@@isasooner5 but that’s what I said. He’s revolutionary with respect to elevating the the traditional role, skill wise, within a traditional QB skill set. Lamar is taking it to a different direction. And yeah, we had Vick. But he wasn’t quite like this. But it all depends if Lamar can pull of the way win. They’re both revolutionizing QB’ing. I just think it leans more to Lamar with a slight margin

@RyuujinLetum

6 ай бұрын

​@isasooner5 lol what? Lamar is what Vick could have been. He's Vick with actual arm talent.

@jeannethompson4048

6 ай бұрын

You just said what they said about Mahomes.

@yungtone9658

6 ай бұрын

It doesn’t

Why did Kimberly forget about Cam lol. All the swagger and dual QB style exploded with him. Obviously he tailed off at the end but he was Lamar before Lamar came

We’ve seen Lamar before his name was Michael Vick…..his name was Steve McNair…….His name is Donovan McNabb…….Patrick has revolutionized the position.

@brashadcarr6759

6 ай бұрын

We seen Patrick in Dan Marino and Aaron Rodgers and none of those guys are the runners from a shiftiness perspective as Lamar or have the highs Lamar has with 3 perfect passing ratings

@tyrencrafton1814

6 ай бұрын

​@@brashadcarr6759 Mahomes has a Superbowl how higher do you want him to go

@tjellis1479

6 ай бұрын

He has the Bowl...now he needs the Plate and cup set...then some cutlery @@tyrencrafton1814

@risingphoenix1484

6 ай бұрын

@@brashadcarr6759 All those guys dwarf Lamar's TD output.... and lets not talk about TD/Int %..... ok lets talk running the football Steve McNair did it Donovan McNabb did it.... and guess what Dan Marino/Mahomes/ARod all stomp the sh!t out of those QBs when it comes to TD production too..... with all those running QBs and we'll add Cam Newton into the mix..... none of them can produce as man points as QBs who throw the ball to.....wait for it..... skilled positions that are apt to score...... This is why QBs that are skilled throwers of the ball are more valuable.... And lets not talk about consistency.... You know what you are going to get when you are a skilled passer... you can play in any conventional offense and the coach knows what the production outcome will be.... Running QBs you can't hence the inconsistency in play.... A special offense has to be put in place in order for them to thrive.... but its always 1 play away from injury.....

@deonterector

6 ай бұрын

​@@brashadcarr6759 Replace Dan Marino with John elway....Dan Marino was stiff.

I'm getting to the point where I'm tired of hearing Kimberly speak about football. Her responses are so unbelievable she doesn't even believe them. They taking the eye candy thing a little too far now

Can’t wait for this game. It’s a big game for Lamar, it’s a regular post season game for Mahomes. Ravens have more to prove. Will be a good game. Don’t see anyone getting blown out.

I'm huge Lamar fan, he's an athletic freak, and I love his humbleness and work ethic. Having said that, of course Mahomes is more revolutionary. The guy is doing things no one has done with winning and with throwing the ball. Both are revolutionary, but Mahomes is waaaaaay more so. I think people are pumping up Lamar too much lately. Lamar is not better than Mahomes lol. I know people want the Chiefs and Mahomes to lose because they have been so dominant but this is getting silly

@Galero15

6 ай бұрын

Give Lamar a Hill and a Kelce, and this league is completely different

Kimberly has no idea what is finna come out of her mouth loll

Good point by Dan. QB coaches are telling kids to play like Pat which is against everything they’d previously known.

These questions are ridiculous.

Respectfully kimberley, might just be a LJ fan and thats fine but I'd urge her to go back n do her research on Michael Vick,Randall Cunningham,Steve McNair,Donovan McNabb

Clever answer from SA regarding the Eagles: accountability.

"He could go down as one of the greatest of all time" stop it woman he's already number 2.

Can’t stand Kim smh ESPN get rid of her

Put Shay Shay and Kimberly on there together. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

These guys failed to point out how Lamar's broken barriers that transcend sports. ✔$260,000,000 Contract - Without an Agent ✔Surviving Nationwide Collusion & Blackballing These are radical events that present a serious change (both retrospectively and prospectively). So, when you look outside the lines - and into the Front Office - I think you'll find some of Lamar's biggest contributions.

Mahomes has more rings, stats, and playoff wins, but by all means, assume it's LJ.

Mahomes iq compared to Lamar’s AINTTTTTT EVEN CLOSEEEEEE

@jakjones8680

6 ай бұрын

Lamar Jackson has a very high football IQ, that's why he doesn't throw high interceptions. Mahomes has more talent arm wise, but Jackson is smart. Don't let his look fool you, like he's done GM s who said he's an wideout

@jerrythercy4439

6 ай бұрын

they are both smart

@elev8lounge44

6 ай бұрын

@@jakjones8680 dude doesn’t even slide. Like I said mahomes iq is 10000x higher

@jau.tumn14

6 ай бұрын

@@elev8lounge44he doesn’t slide he dives to avoid contact… do you even know what you’re talking about?

@elev8lounge44

6 ай бұрын

@@jau.tumn14 what’s his career playoff numbers. And didn’t all but one year he have like the number 1 defense 2-3x. And the rest top 10? I mean my god. Dude isn’t clutch and like my initial post said .. MAHOMESSSS IQ IS WAY HIGHER. Thats what all the metrics, and the eye test show. Light years ahead

They say “they figured him out” for every quarterback. Besides that, they had a good point since he kept losing playoff games. Let him accomplish something in the playoffs before crowning him over Patrick

Again… get rid of Kimberley

Lamar went from nobody wanting him in free agency to being in the revolutionary conversation

This is an unserious conversation. It’s clearly Mahomes.

Journalist caring about truth 😂😂

This is a stupid question..

That first girl didn’t want to pick Lamar she had to for a show 😂😂

Kimberly you don't belong here

Revolutionary: involving or causing a complete or dramatic change. I think the way you defend Lamar is much more Revolutionary because we've only seen MVP Cam at this sort of dual threat throwing and running the football. We've seen great QBs with great arms, who can scramble some before similar to Mahomes. But we just don't see as many Lamar Jacksons, so based on the change he forces defenses to adjust to I think Lamar is clearly more revolutionary.

This is why I don't watch these shows. Because anyone who says lamar doesn't know anything about football and hasn't been watching football for the past six or seven years open your eyes

He’s won 2 MVPs and people would tell you players like Burrow & Purdy are better QBs If he wasn’t able to run, they wouldn’t hold his talent against him

The conversation is unintelligible because there is no nuance. The media has been bandwagoning

Go Chiefs! FYI, it was so nice seeing you on General Hospital again today!

Why does Kimberly still have a job, she’s the worst analyst on ESPN

Isn’t that the woman who said she wants her quarterbacks to be “quarterbacky” ?

People act like Vic didn’t do Wht Lamar is doing .

@ethonfelton805

6 ай бұрын

He didn’t

@derrickmason7457

6 ай бұрын

💯 they said vick wouldn’t last long either

@sirrmanning2769

6 ай бұрын

Vick admitted that he never worked on his skills until he was released from prison and had to get himself back into football shape. Lamar is the next level of VICK for sure.

@jakjones8680

6 ай бұрын

Not passing wise. LJ is a much better passer than Vick was! Vick arm was stronger, but nowhere near as accurate LJ. Lamar can throw you open,where Vick had to see you open.

@elev8lounge44

6 ай бұрын

@@sirrmanning2769 but he still existed before Lamar and humility is a virtue. Vick was a dog. There has never been a Patrick

Interesting question, but it is definitely Patrick Mahomes. He is as close to a perfect QB as far as skillset and intangibles that has ever played the game. He can make every throw, can play in the pocket and out of it, and is the best or 2nd best escape artist in the league (Josh Allen is in the convo). Not to mention, he can run the ball well also. His blend of passing and running and how he allows those skills to play off of each other makes him so revolutionary. He is also clutch. He won his first superbowl while trailing every game by double digits in that playoffs. A big reason that Lamar took such a big leap at QB to me, even though the passing numbers might not suggest it on the surface, is he became more like Patrick. What I mean by that is, even though, the ravens are the least passing team, when he does drop back to pass, he is making great decisions and manipulating defenses with his eyes and threat of running. He is faking a run to open up a pass now, whereas before he committed to running very quickly. This makes him so much more unpredictable and I believe he learned that from watching Patrick.

Lol if we are going to talk about journey. Before the draft everyone was saying Mahomes would never be a good NFL qb. Many analyst even saying that the chiefs pick was absolutely horrible.

Steve Young was doing all the same stuff in the 90's please look up his stats .. he waited behind Joe Montana, and his career was cut short due to injury in an area when passing wasn't emphasized.

Very tough question but I would say Lamar everywhere you turn you see a running QB every NFL draft you see a QB from college raise his draft stock just because he can run a 40 under 4.50. But Mahomes is what you see in NBA with Curry everybody wants to make them weird throws and live in moments throws

Media says the NFL is filled with young elite QBs but only 1 has any rings. Everyvody else gets a pass based on what ifs

That fake lil pass he did on that run is so fire

Somebody get Kimberly outta there please... cringe just watching her explain stuff

these mahomes vs this convos are annoying. just accept he’s the greatest in the league right now. there are so many convos to be had besides these blah blah vs the 2 time mvp, and 2 time super bowl champ. it’s foolish to say anyone is better than this man.

Both are great and revolutionary. Whoever retires with more super bowl appearances and wins is the better all time

Kimberly’s take was spot on in my opinion, he’s shown you can win his way

@BigDog8162.0

6 ай бұрын

Yeah with Mahomes 😂

I do not like her commentary. Ever since she spoke on cam newton. Disrespectful

Kimberly wants to see Pat fall so bad she will say baker or golf is better 😂

Lamar is getting overhyped to the point people compare him to Patrick Mahomes

"could go down as one of the greatest of all time"? he's already at that point

Mahomie 💪

The question isn't about who's better or greater. I gotta give Lamar a slight edge in terms of revolutionizing the position. It's akin to what Curry did in the NBA as a PG. We've honestly seen a Lamar and Mahomes before, to a lesser degree, but Lamar was literally asked to change positions. I think owners and GMs may reconsider asking athletic QBs that question going forward after witnessing what LJ is doing. Mahomes and some of his unorthodox mechanics will never be taught to QBs, that guy's a maniac but i think more coaches would welcome athletic QBs with great running potential.

Mahomes kinda takes from Favre, Elway and Rodgers. But his throwing ability on the run is stupid.

Stephen A Smith lied that Giannis got Adrian Griffin fired. Giannis came out and said he loves Griffin and he was never involved in any hiring or firing of any coach whatsoever.

SAS Has to start putting some respect on DAN O NAME 😂😂😂 but fr

Saying Lamar is so ridiculous, Kimberley could barely hold back her laugh.

Its crazy how fast they moved on from Josh Allen to Lemar Jackson.

@Jaywon977

6 ай бұрын

Lmao they find a new wb every year to try to compete with Mahomes 😂😂😂 they literally had the same convos about hurts and the eagles last year

@JohnKing-jz9zb

6 ай бұрын

But Josh Allen was never as good as Lamar.. Lamar was just hurt the last 2 seasons

@brandonneumann5294

5 ай бұрын

@@JohnKing-jz9zb Josh Allen is way better than Lamar

I fast forward when Stephen talks

Stephen A be doing Dan just like how he use to do Max 😭 He act like everything Dan do is asinine

Nobody ever thought he wasn’t good enough YT media just knew he was gone make it harder for the Zach Wilson’s of the world🥱🤭

Nothing she said about Lamar makes him revolutionary. Lamar Jackson is a phenomenal player, but I wouldn't say he's revolutionary. Mahomes actually changed the way his position is played. From recruiters to coaches, they're now encouraging and training QBs to execute plays similar to the manner Mahomes does. He also entered an unknown space when it comes to QB contracts. Now that is revolutionary.

@t3themenace361

6 ай бұрын

She want him dats all was smiling hard asf

@Number-gs3rv

6 ай бұрын

Lamar is absolutely revolutionary. Mobility is highly valued in QBs (Lamar has a bit of a part in that), the way defenses have to play have altered because of Lamar’s abilities (can’t just send everyone), what he does on a football field go beyond the statsheet, he’s genuinely changing football

@Number-gs3rv

6 ай бұрын

Also Lamar made insane moves when he was able to get his contract with that insane guaranteed with no agent

Dan didn’t answer the question 😂😂😂

@ebenezerindi1766

6 ай бұрын

He clearly said Mahomes, are you even listening? LOL

lol and pm has how many afc appearances and how many SB?

the fact that people are in here defending lamar in this argument is hilarious

Mahomes stats against #1 defenses including the playoffs…. W-L: 6-1 Chiefs PPG: 31.0 Pass YPG: 322.4 Pass TD-INT: 15-7 QBR:94.3

The program would be better without Kimberly Martin.

Iam watching football because of Lemar Lemar skills on touch

If I didn't hear the name 'Lamar' when describing him, that sounds like Fields

Listen, a good comparison is that Mahomes is like the Steph Curry of the NFL and Jackson is the James Harden of the NFL.

@enriquemiller7868

6 ай бұрын

That is an awful comparison

@sirrmanning2769

6 ай бұрын

Yeah until Lamar wins one (which could be this year) then which NBAer would you compare him to? I do like your comparison(s) though...

@dharmeshp.5565

6 ай бұрын

James harden???? You trippin Mayne lol. Harden is a sucker

@jjpark1989

6 ай бұрын

@@sirrmanning2769 if he wins this year, then he will be like a Kevin Durant.

@chiefsandwarriorslover1543

6 ай бұрын

As of right Mahomes is like the Lebron/Steph Curry of the nfl.

It's definitely Patrick Mahomes 😃

The question is about the most “revolutionary” QB not the “best” or “winningest.” Mahomes is too traditional to be revolutionary. However, Lamar is a player that they were pushing to be either a Receiver or a Running Back because of his athleticism. NOW we all know that he has arm accuracy and arm power as well. THAT is revolutionary!