Stealth Outback Wilderness | Why I'm Changing Everything On This Build
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For the longest time, I tried to build my Outback Wilderness to take on the toughest trails and the hardest lines. After many attempts and a few failures, I've come to the realization that this vehicle may not be the one for the job. That doesn't mean the Outback Wilderness doesn't have a purpose and can't still be part of our vehicle mix. It just means that it has to undergo changes that play to its strengths and not its weaknesses. This video is a detailed breakdown of what I've been able to do to take my Outback Wilderness from a gas-guzzling station wagon to the ultimate stealth photography vehicle with more capability than most SUVs.
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I have the same car. I did the highlight delete, put on wider lightweight rally Wheels, and Lightweight Oversized AT tires. Other than that it's not about Mods, but what I carry, and I carry as little as possible. An electric cooler for cold drinks and occasionally food, a high flow air compressor that I keep unmounted for better heat dissapation outside the vehicle, mini maxtrax, Tow hitch and rope soft shackles etc. a power pack vs an aux batt, complete with foldable portably solar panels. Portable Blue Tooth speakers so I can listen to music without the car batt being used and still have good sound. I have nothing on the roof, no tent, no rack, but I would probably put a shell or rack if I needed the extra space. So far there is room for my to stretch out, for my cooler, for the occasional cargo, and if I need to haul tires or groceries, I either already have room, or can easily make it by taking all this stuff out in about ten minutes. I do have a full sized spare tire and matching wheel in the wheel well. It is mostly deflated to fit and no tool caddy on top of it, but it does fit, along with a lot of other tools and jacks, without the caddy. There is something to be said for staying light and simple. It helps that I am mostly alone, but hopefully I will find a camping buddy someday with the same hobbies I am interested in. Mostly my desire is cold beer and warm music with a nice view. Databyter
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Great info! Thanks for the comment!
@kwelitysoul
Жыл бұрын
What wheels and tires did you get?
@laysha5470
Жыл бұрын
Yea, what kind of wheels and tires did you get? 😊
@Databyter
Жыл бұрын
@@laysha5470 This is by memory so don't quote me, but I think it is right. I got Motegi MR139's 7.5X17 which is a half inch wider for less sidewall bulge with the bigger wider tires and also for maximum airing down support. And 245/65/17 Falken Trail AT's the NON LT version for this size. Be careful here because they offer light truck version in this size which is overkill and far too heavy for most of our purposes. The non LT version still is an upgrade for load capacity over the stock tire, without the manditory truck load rating that us usually the only offering in this size. This tire is DESIGNED for hybrid softroaders like the Subaru or Rav4, etc. plus it is offered in this size. Unlike the stock tire.. It has thicker sidewalls (1/2" less sag for clearance purposes) despite it's non LT weight it is STILL heavier than the stock tire and a good choice for airing down and aggresive tread. The MR139 wheel is lighter than stock,. but still very strong and aggresively Rally Race designed, BUT it is a few pounds lighter per wheel which offsets the added unsprung weight of the 2x oversized tires, which if you got the non LT version is not nearly as heavy as the LT version, but still quite a bit more than stock. But between the lighter wheel and the heavier tire, I think I only gained about 4lbs per corner, which isn't half bad for a 2x size upbrade. Why is this important? Gas mileage. Between the weight savings on the combo and the effective final gear change that is slightly less torque and slightly more economy, I feel I just about broke even on HWY gas mileage, which is amazing. I get 21 MPG with these oversized tires HWY. Sometimes even more on long flat trips. Non highway Im sure I lose a bit due to the added weight of stop and go. As I said this is from memory. I have written an article about it on one of the Wilderness specific Forums on Facebook if you need a longer explanation of tire choices. On paper this combination will give you an extra 1/2" of clearance because of the 1" taller tires (only the half tire UNDER the axle adds lift so you divide the tallness by 2). But in actuality, because this tire has less sag, it seems to add close to an extra 1/2" making it closer to a guessed .8" improvement overall, making my total clearance about 10". Databyter
Glad you ditched the roam boxes. My suggestion to you is to get rid of the ARB compressor and swap that over to your Lexus, and run a cheaper harbor freight compressor. get the IAG air oil separator. This will extend the life of your turbo engine. Get the Perrin CVT cooler to extend the life of your transmission. You can use the compressor bracket to mount it in the same place. For the back Goosegear makes a bolt in floor drawer system. For tires switch to Falken Wildpeak At3w's and save weight over the the KO2's. Switch from the hood lights brackets to SMK fabrication side mount lights brackets. I currently have both. I'm waiting for the CAtuned brush guard to arrive and I'm going to mount 2 cameras to either side. That will help me gauge clearance over more difficult terrain. The Torqmaster auto locker also helps a lot more than you would imagine and doesn't really affect day to day driving. The clicking is very quiet. You may not be able to clear difficult jeep trails, but you will be able to clear green and blue trails no problem.
@John3701
Жыл бұрын
Wish I could like this comment more than once for all the great upgrade tips!!
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the input!
I absolutely love your Outback Wilderness content as a fellow Outback owner who's looking to step up to the Wilderness and planning to add a few (stealthy) upgrades... Thank you for your transparency of why you're rolling back the idea of the 2024 Wilderness purchase. I'm planning to wait as well since they're due for a possible complete 2025 model overhaul, that I feel will be worth the wait!
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
I would have to agree with you and I sincerely appreciate the kind words!
Yeah, haha, it’s not a Rubicon on 37s. It’s realllly good at easy and moderate trails, but it hits a wall when you try to do more. I have the same size tires and I had to do some cutting and welding to get mine to fit in the normal spare tire compartment. Glad the big boxes are gone, but the roof rack is still really hurting your highway MPGs. I had a cargo box on mine for a week . . . OMG! SO much extra drag when you take a nice smooth roof and add stuff up there. Maybe you could put all the roof tools on the swing out! No aero penalty back there! You’d see a massive jump in highway MPGs.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
It's definitely been a thought! Appreciate the comment, dude!
I think it all comes down to what your requirements are. The OBW is a great vehicle but it is not a Jeep Rubicon. For overall capability, the OBW is awesome.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
I would agree with that statement in its entirety.
I own a '16 OB Limited with the 3.6. I love this car after having a truck for over 20 years. I wanted to make modifications but being retired and having other things in life to enjoy has taken priority over modifications to my OB. Your video has allowed me to realize I don't need to make modifications except maybe upgrading tires and rims but to me, that's it. I've bookmarked this video so I can refer to it whenever the urge to upgrade rears its head. Thanks for this and I look forward to your future vids. BY THE WAY, I'm looking forward to your Lexus build as well!
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to be a voice of reason. Sometimes we all need to be reminded of what we "need" vs what we thing we need. Appreciate the kind words and thanks for the support!
I completely agree with your first 2 points. On my 2023, those are my only major complaints that they didn't address in the 2024. The auto start/stop is kinda a non-issue for me, because I rarely am in a situation where it kicks in, and when it does it's usually because I'm sitting in traffic for a long time. I personally dislike auto hold (in any vehicle) so I'm fine with it turning itself off. I haven't had an issue with it hunting for gears but I also don't often drive that fast. And mine is a 2023 so maybe it's a software change between the 2 years in the transmission controller. The screen issue you mentioned is an issue I've had with every vehicle with a touch screen infotainment center I've ever been in. They all suck and it's why even though I understand why they're going this way more and more, I miss my old dials and sliders and such for my stereo, a/c, etc.
@roamingwithjosh
7 ай бұрын
I miss the dials so much
Great video, and gives me a lot to think on for what my actual needs are. I’m 9 months from retiring from the Navy and currently building out my 22 OBW into a 1 man (+ dog) road trip/photography SUV’RV. Almost done with the inside (sleeping platform done, and almost done with the shelf for the fridge and pullout stove, bluetti ac60/80 arrives tomorrow). Outside Ive only done RR Vortex bars, inno 660 box, and a yakima slimshaddy. Unless I don’t scrap this build to pull out all the rear seats for V3, next thing I was going to save up for is lights and then maybe a compressor. Think I won’t do the tires till they wear out or start hampering where I’m trying to get to.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
That's a lot of good info and I hope it gives some clarity to others!
Photography/videography is the primary reason I picked up the OBW (and originally the OB Premium a few years ago). I called it the ultimate piece of photography gear then, and now the OBW is more like the super-hella-ultimate piece of photography gear. Seriously looking forward to seeing where all it will take me and the rest of my photography rig. 🙂 Thanks again for all your videos. They're a lot of fun to watch, and they're deeply informative to boot!
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff! Thanks for the comment and the kind words, they're much appreciated.
The only thing I really want is skid plates for mine. The almost bought a Rivian, but when I finally drove it, it was so TINY. The outback I can sleep in comfortably and I'm 6'1. I've done cross country trips with bikes and climbing gear on one side and my sleeping pad on the other. Haven't bought a top rack / bars at all because so far all my toys have fit inside the vehicle and it stays nice and dry as well. I don't try to drive all the way there, I drive pretty far and then hike or bike and be comfy along the way.
@roamingwithjosh
10 ай бұрын
Right on! I've been eyeing the Rivian too, but you may have just changed my mind..
@TheSpiffiest1
10 ай бұрын
@@roamingwithjosh think of a Ford ranger with super car performance. It's 7000 lbs, but 800 HP. Half your useable space is in the bed, so you need a cap or something for camping. It will absolutely get to anywhere but it's just cramped in my opinion. It's still an amazing vehicle but after test driving it and lightning I bought obw. Electric isn't where I can justify the price/performance. The lightning pro which has locking diff standard mode would be epic but they aren't making any. So far the obw factory default already has most of what I would have done to your basic outback so I'm pretty content. Heading west for eclipse and stuff so maybe see you on the trail. 😄
Appreciate your honesty and flexibility, to be able to change direction and be up front about it. You may get some haters, but revisiting decisions and having the boldness to change and then make a video about it...good stuff. By the way, my son has an older Outback and loves it to pieces.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words and thank you for your comment!
I have told a few people thinking of beefing up their Wilderness that you realized that the stock version is very capable.
@roamingwithjosh
9 ай бұрын
It is very capable indeed. Thanks for the comment!
My wife and I have ordered a 24 wilderness in blue. We are excited for it to be her car. Her wilderness and my 23 jeep wrangler rubicon eco diesel.
@doc650adventures
Жыл бұрын
Just picked one up! Great vehicle! You will love it!
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Awesome set of rigs for sure!
As much I anticipated you get a ‘24, I think you made a solid decision. I am still in the decision process.. If I go new and have one vehicle it probably going to go with a ‘24 Wilderness as my wife can get in and out of it fairly easy. This vid help make up my mind what to do if I go that route. The alternative is to keep the the 2017 Forester and get an older 4x4 and build it up. The dilemma is to have a great street car with some off road chops but a hefty, for me, payment or get a secondary capable vehicle and build it up! Thanks for sharing and looking forward to additional vids and projects!
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
That's definitely a conundrum. As I age I prefer the more realistic approach and building up an off-road rig comes with it's own set of costs that can pile up over time and actually cost more at the end of the day. Either way, the decision is a tuff one and I will love to know which way you go.
Love my Nomad Grapplers. Significant weight savings over the KO2’s.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
It's actually less than you think, only a couple of pounds per tire, but I still agree with you.
This is great content. Really like seeing your reasoning behind the vehicle builds even though I have different setups. I will have to look through your videos to see if you gave reasoning for picking the Lexus over a 4runner or other SUV for your use cases.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I have something coming on that topic!
I'm just going to add an awning, shower system, fridge and power station. We aren't planning to do hardcore off-roading.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a plan!
This video perfectly sums up exactly what you should and shouldn't do with a Subaru. The benefit of a Subaru over a proper 4x4 is that they are lightweight and efficient. We should aim to keep them that way. So many things can eliminate those traits, and as soon as they're gone, it becomes evident that a real 4x4 would do everything better, often even including fuel economy. A loaded roof rack just destroys fuel economy, messes up the center of gravity, and generates irritating wind noise. If someone needs more cargo space, they should have got a truck. Same goes for the tire carrier and auxiliary systems. I would highly, highly encourage you to swap the KO2s out. It's a great tire -- I have had three sets on my Ranger now. But I would never, ever put them on my Subaru. They are so much heavier than the more appropriate Crossover style all-terrains. I have had heavy tires on my Subaru before and I absolutely hated what it did to the vehicle. On my truck, with all it's torque and power, it doesn't matter. The best Subaru build is lightweight crossover AT tires, lightweight aftermarket wheels, and a mild lift. I have the Ironman kit in mine. That's all it needs. Anything else and you're in the wrong vehicle.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
That is a prefect synopsis of the vehicle and how it should be built. I will probably keep the KO2 for another 10k miles just to get my money out of them. After that I'll be swapping to a more efficient tire. Thanks again!
@flyguy2021
Жыл бұрын
Why a lift with all the previous comments you made?
@JackFalltrades
Жыл бұрын
What are considered lightweight crossover AT tires? Is there any issue with the stock tires? I'm new to this
Glad to hear that you're not trading the '22... though I must admit that seeing it go back to (near) stock is slightly bittersweet. And that's because I was somewhat living vicariously through your mods. That said, I always came to the same conclusion you did - the OBW is for mild-to-medium trails or for on-road comfort. It's not a rock crawler. It's not a trail beast. And that's OK. I use mine on Forest Service Roads here in the Appalachians to get to photo spots where my STI couldn't. Thanks again for the great content.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
I sincerely appreciate your comment and thank you for watching the videos. The OBW is a fantastic car and what you said about it's uses is a perfect synopsis.
We have a trip in august to do the alpine loop so I just orders a Wilco tire carrier for full size spare. I run the same suspension setup as you in my 2016 3.6R Outback. Hearing you talk about mpgs has me wondering how much having that will affect mine. Like I said I run exact same suspension setup as yours with same size KO2’s on LP 1 wheels and get 20-21 mpgs. Can’t wait for content on new 460 build! Cheers my friend! Love the channel
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Right on! A guess would be about a mile per gallon, but the Rig'd carrier is much heavier then the wilco so I could be way off! Thanks for the kind words and enjoy the trip. Report back with what you find on the MPGs
I was going to do a secondary battery system in my OBW and yesterday decided not to because I want to keep it simple and I'll just run my goal zero for power. All I have is my dometic 45L in the back to run. I run the Zarges boxes up top but I have their quick release mounts so I don't run the boxes everyday.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Comments like this are helpful for the people who have the ideas to go slightly beyond what may be needed to enjoy themselves. Thanks for taking the time to put your two cents on the matter.
I'm about to get a forester wilderness. Watching thru your video I'm reconsidering some ideas right off the bat. I'm curious about quick release roof crossbars.
Subarus are ideal for when you something perfectly balanced between daily driving, highway road trips, and soft roading. They're perfect for folks who can't afford a quiver of vehicles to suit different use cases, and just want one all-arounder vehicle that's solid but not amazing, at everything you can throw at it. Which is, let's face it, probably the majority of people, very few of us are fortunate to be able to own a van life vehicle and a road tripper and an offroader. Personally I don't intend to take mine too far from stock. Just a roof box for some extra cargo, a bike rack, and OEM skid plates. I think the more capable I try to make it, the more unbalanced it becomes for highway and around town use. Better to accept it as the subaru it is than try to make it into the Jeep it isn't
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
You summed it up perfectly and I appreciate your input! Good luck on the build.
It's funny, because I came to kind of the opposite realization. I bought this car, because I needed something capable of towing my Runaway Camper. I didn't have many options, because the auto market was insane in late 2021. I have almost exclusively camped at campgrounds, and 99% of my driving is on paved highways. So, in my case I would have been happier with a less off-road capable car with better gas mileage, as long as the towing capacity was still there
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
That makes total sense. Appreciate your input on this.
Really helpful to hear. I’ve been thinking about an outback wilderness, but wondering how much I’ll have to sink into it to make it dirt ready once I plunk down $40k plus to buy it. Seems like maybe a grippier set of tires is the best investment. I was especially interested to hear that you would keep,the stock suspension if you had it to do over again. I’ve got a 2005 4Runner, but probably 80% of the places I take it off road there are stock Subarus there when I arrive…
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
The stock suspension is plenty for 90% of people. Your subaru can be as tall as you want, but the CVT is only going to get you so far. That's my personal opinion.
I'm looking at the Outback because I live in snow country and enjoy casual car camping. I own a 91 Jeep Wrangler that gets me into the back country. Anyone buying a car and expecting it to get them into the middle of nowhere stands a pretty good chance of hiking out.. no matter what the manufacturer badges it.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
I would agree with that and I think the "middle of nowhere" comment I made is a matter of opinion. I appreciate you taking the time to comment!
@j.t.c.9157
Жыл бұрын
@nativenomads I'm sorry if I sounded rude.. I just think some people can get in over their heads and end up in some bad situations. Anyhow thank you for taking the time and making the effort making theses videos. They are appreciated.
Should I get outback ,forester wilderness, Mazda cx50? or something else around the same price range. I don't plan to upgrade anything except window tint, lighting, tires. I plan to do lite off roading to moderate.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
That's a personal question and because I don't have experience with the other two vehicles mentioned, I can't give you my opinion.
My 23 OBW is just the way I want it. Pretty much stock except for cross bars and blacked out emblems. Most of the other stuff I’d want I’d rarely use.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Right on!
I stumble on your channel in search of obw videos because im thinking of getting the 24 or 23, your obw looks amazing, where did you get the side rock crawler and do you have an install video?
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
I did not do an install video on those. I would recommend these for better protection adventurerigshop.com/collections/sliders-skid-plates/products/rock-sliders-fits-20-23-subaru-outback-and-wilderness the ones I have are from LP aventure and they're not as sturdy.
If you have a lithium power pack / solar generator, just use that instead of a secondary battery. I made a 35AH Sealed Lead Acid battery box and stuffed it behind the passenger seat. Take it out and leave it at camp. Charge it with a tender plugged into a small inverter while you drive.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm planning to do.
17 mpg from a shorter crossover wagon is discouraging! 😱But yeah I guess aerodynamics is huge. I keep leaning towards these and Honda Passports. I think I'll appreciate the height of the Honda, huge amounts of vertical cargo space.... so many choices why is this so hard! Also wish Toyota had something in-between the RAV4 and 4Runner for this type of stuff
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Yea it was pretty bad with all that stuff hanging from the car.
Hey! Do you have a video where you show your garage and all the things you keep inside? Because the background of this video seems soo interesting, would love to see all the little stuff and design you have going. Thanks! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
LOL no I don't. Maybe a video idea for one of these days.
I have a ‘23 Outback Onyx (non-turbo) and I consider trading it in for an Onyx XT or Wilderness at least once a week. At the same time, I love the character of the vehicle with 235-65 Nomad Grapplers, and it gets great fuel economy unloaded at 28-29 mpg. It does almost everything I could ask for, currently. That said, I am strongly considering a Raceworks GZ 2” lift to give it a bit more capability off-road and better handling on road. Would I like more power? Of course. Would it be nice to tackle some of the crazier Jeep trails I’ve seen on KZread and elsewhere? Definitely. Even with answering those questions affirmatively, I’m having fun using the vehicle as it is and continuing to massage it into doing more. This is my first attempt to learn where I want to go and what I want to do off-road. There is no perfect vehicle for every scenario and it’s difficult to tell exactly what is desirable without exploring the limits, both of yourself and the tools you use. I applaud you for the journey you’re on and for the learnings you’ve compiled to share with those who watch your channel. Thanks for offering you’ve done to give others a frame of reference so they can make their own decisions.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your comment and how well written it was. Hopefully the channel serves as a starting point for those looking to make their vehicle whatever they want it to be for them and their adventures.
How much of a load can the SOW alternator handle? It sounds like you're drawing a lot of extra current
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Far more than what I'm pulling. At any given time on full load I would be pulling a maximum of 100W.
Great videos and build, and honest self critique! I have a 20' Outback, and am thinking about doing the same lift. I am wondering though if it puts excessive strain on the CVT, and if it voids the CVT waranty, It's a 9y yr warranty if I remember correctly. Also considering flipping it for a used 4runner or Sequoia, but it's a bad time to buy cars with inflated prices on Toyota and high interest rates etc.. 1st Gen Cayenne's lifted are a thing too! Sociable! 🇨🇦
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
I can't answer the warranty question, I would refer to the dealer on that one. I would caution before you lift it because the reality is that most of these vehicles are only so capable and it will cost you gas mileage over the long run.
@SpiritoftheWoods863
Жыл бұрын
@@roamingwithjosh Just watched your video on the subject! 🖖
What’s your thoughts on the nomad grappler vs the factory Yokohama.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
I would go with the nomad grappler over the geolander. That is entirely a personal opinion. Others may have a different one.
Question for you now that you’ve switched batterie systems back to the Bluetti. I have the AC60 and B80 (1200wh), and charging from the stock dc cig port has been frustrating, bouncing between 20-90 watts. Both units can take 200W, VOC 12-28V, 8A independently (same as the EB3A). Do you still think a DC isolator is the best option vs a dc-to-dc charger or converter? And would it be possible to run 20A, split it at a fuse box and charge both units at once? Or would a 12>24v 10A be better since you could maybe wire it to an auxbeam controller? Maybe just wires from the auxbeam directly back to the back?
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
I would probably go DC to DC charger. It should allow for up to 20amps. Not sure how many watts the AC60 chargers at off of AC power, but you should be able to get close to that through a dc to dc. I've seen a lot of guys doing that on KZread.
@FieldingSmith
Жыл бұрын
@@roamingwithjosh Not sure on converting it from dc to ac, how would you wire that? Just direct to an AC cord? I know that the dc port is limited to 8A. Hence why I was thinking of a 12V > 24V 10A converter. I’ve seen people get 200w that way. Or are you saying 20A to 2x inputs?
How much offset are your rims on your
@roamingwithjosh
9 ай бұрын
+38 if I remember correctly
What gas mileage is everyone else getting?
Do you all think it's capable enough for dispersed camping on BLM land and forest service roads?
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
What's really demoralizing is that I have a stock Subaru Outback Wilderness and I'm not getting much better gas mileage than you do unless I am driving all day on the Interstate! 😀
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
lolol yea that's pretty demoralizing.
Are you going to put that sway bar back? 😀
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
sway bar stays on 90% of the time.
I like your decision not to buy a new 2024! I can’t wait for the stealth
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Right on! Thank you!
what happened to the Ram?
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
Traded it for the GX
Glad you came to your senses. All those accessories make one look like a poser and tacky.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
lolol thanks!
Did you take the lift off?
@cougmantx
Жыл бұрын
Oops, should have watched all the way to the end.
@roamingwithjosh
Жыл бұрын
No worries!
You People
@roamingwithjosh
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
You say good gas mileage. What kind of gas mileage are you getting? I have the same vehicle, and I get between 17 and 22 mpg. Not stelar.
@NothingCoherent
Жыл бұрын
Yep. A modern midsized truck can beat that, while being way more capable.
@BE4TNUT
Жыл бұрын
My Wilderness usually gets 27-29mpg according to the onboard computer. Almost all my driving is country roads with speed limits of 50-65mph. I’m a very laid back driver opposed to driving fast as I did in my younger years so I’m not often mashing the gas pedal hard.
@bigdaddy1630
Жыл бұрын
I had an outback and that was averaging 17 miles after installing all terrain tires. After a few months I traded for an gladiator ecodiesel. I have 38" tires and I get an average of 22mpg 😂.
@JackFalltrades
Жыл бұрын
@@BE4TNUT Have you checked the gas mileage the old fashioned way? I calculate my gas mileage when I fill up using the odometer and the gallons I pumped in. That _should_ be more accurate.
@JackFalltrades
Жыл бұрын
@@NothingCoherent I debated that for a long time before buying. Taco or Subie? Subie or Taco? 😀
Less is more
@roamingwithjosh
4 ай бұрын
Agreed
I'd rather pile up all my money and take a blow torch to it all.
@roamingwithjosh
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Sounds reasonable.
@JackFalltrades
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@@roamingwithjosh😂