Stateful vs Stateless Firewalls - You NEED to know the difference

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In this video Adrian explains the difference between stateful vs stateless firewalls. He covers REQUEST and RESPONSE parts of a TCP connection as well as ephemeral ports
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  • @brynjellis
    @brynjellis Жыл бұрын

    I've looked up this stateless vs stateful subject many times before and nowhere has it been explained better than in this video! Brilliant job, thank you!

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @blackie5566

    @blackie5566

    Жыл бұрын

    I second that, one of the best explanations!!! Thank you so much

  • @siraj-7397
    @siraj-7397 Жыл бұрын

    As a Networks instructor, I see that this video is helpful and professional. 20/20

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks !! glad you like it.

  • @raheelsarvana
    @raheelsarvana3 ай бұрын

    I've been in network security for sometime now, and this is one of the best ways I've seen this explained. Great work!

  • @salkeldeliaoe
    @salkeldeliaoe Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video, broken down each and every part very detailed and straight to the point.

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it.

  • @seetsamolapo5600
    @seetsamolapo56008 ай бұрын

    - When you make a connection using TCP each side is sending IP packets to each other. TCP is layer 4 protocol which runs on top of IP and adds error correction and ports. - Each connection by a user via client to an application on a server consists of two parts- the request (initiation) and the response which are two parts of the same interaction - client picks a temporary (ephemeral) port as its source which has a value between 1024 and 65536. Then the client initiates a connection to the server using a well known destination port 443 - https. Well known ports are associated with popular applications. This is the request part. The client asking for something from the server. - Next the server responds with some type of data. The server connects to the source IPof the request which is the clien. It connects to the client's port which is an ephemeral port. This is the response part. It is from the server on that well known port 443 to the client on the ephemeral port chosen by the client - It is is this values that uniquely identify a connection - source Ip and source port, and destination IP and destination port. - Each interaction/connection comprises of a request part and response component. The directionality of the transmission depends on the node's perspective. The direction of a request or response isnt always outbound or inbound. There are outgoing requests, outgoing responses, incoming requests and incoming responses. Some servers can have all, like web servers, where the both initiate and accept connections. For every connection start with the request and the response will be the inverse - When the client initiates a request, packets are sent to the server with a source IP and source port of the client and destination IP and destination port of the server. This request is an outbound request from the client perspective and an inbound request from the server perspective - Firewalls require consideration of perspective - directionality when defining rules for connections. The response is always inverse direction to the request - source IP, source port and destination IP and destination port switch. - Stateless firewalls see the request and response as separate activities. Allowing or denying them is done individually so there are two separate rules required one for the request and another for the response. Therefore more management overhead with more rules required per connection - The request component is always going to be to a well know port. The response is always going to be from a server to a client going to a random ephemeral port chosen by the client's OS. And because the firewall is stateless it has no way of knowing which specific port the response is destined for. Therefore in the firewall rules traffic in the full range of ephemeral ports must be allowed which isn't ideal for security engineers. - Stateful firewalls are intelligent enough to identify the response component from it's request component. By comparing the ports and IP of the request and response and if they're the same it can link them to each other. Therefore, for a specific request the stateful firewall automatically knows which data is the response and automatically allows it. Therefore only one rule required for stateful firewalls which is for allowing/denying the request and the response is automatically allowed/denied significantly reducing admin overhead. In addition there's no need to allow traffic for the entire ephemeral port range as the firewall knows the specific ephemeral port for the connection

  • @TopYoutubeComments
    @TopYoutubeComments2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the amazing work you're putting in !

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoy it!

  • @shitshow_1
    @shitshow_13 ай бұрын

    Well articulately explained. Also quickly refreshed some of the Network layer concepts before diving into the topic, this is something I always wanted.

  • @ShrutiSharma-xu6qs
    @ShrutiSharma-xu6qs6 ай бұрын

    Best explanation ever. Clarity pro max!

  • @jonathantx
    @jonathantxАй бұрын

    Excellent Explanation, I'm still learning a lot but this is spot on and really breaks it down for me to understand. Thank you.

  • @Kumararpit44
    @Kumararpit44Ай бұрын

    Literally, brilliant way to teach. Thanks ❤

  • @chuckbalogh296
    @chuckbalogh296 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video and explanation. You have cleared up so many topics for me.

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @danilomendes2991
    @danilomendes29912 жыл бұрын

    What a great explanation! Great job!!

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Danilo :) please like, share and subscribe (*shudders at sounding like a youtuber*)

  • @ischozar7465
    @ischozar7465 Жыл бұрын

    Good slides, good explanations, good video. Thanks for making me smarter.

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    glad it helps :)

  • @deepshah737
    @deepshah737Ай бұрын

    what a fantastic explanation along with slides. Thank u very much

  • @gomsg2049
    @gomsg20499 ай бұрын

    well explained..thanks a lot!

  • @Enzo-sp3bf
    @Enzo-sp3bfАй бұрын

    Oh this explaination is excellent and helps a lot

  • @greenpixel_
    @greenpixel_2 ай бұрын

    Fantastic explanation!

  • @franciscojosegalan3135
    @franciscojosegalan3135 Жыл бұрын

    Great job, very educational!

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks !!! glad you find it valuable.

  • @brunomarques8070
    @brunomarques8070 Жыл бұрын

    Very simple explanation. Thank you!

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @aslanbekx
    @aslanbekx5 ай бұрын

    Great Video understandable.You are doing well at teaching

  • @Gsfkdhkjhgfs
    @Gsfkdhkjhgfs Жыл бұрын

    Very clear explanation and incredibly helpful. One thing that still confuses me is the ‘overhead’ part which you say is lower on stateful firewalls. Since they record the state of a connection whereas a stateless firewall doesn’t; it’s more intuitive for me to say that a stateless firewall therefore needs less memory and has less overhead as a consequence. But I’m probably mistaken one concept for the other.

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    no you are correct.

  • @Gestr3482
    @Gestr34826 ай бұрын

    Very good explanation

  • @00infinity39
    @00infinity395 ай бұрын

    This is video is 10/10 🎉🎉 appreciate the effort ❤ U got a new sub

  • @WoutiecomNL
    @WoutiecomNL Жыл бұрын

    Great animation and explanation. Thanks!

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks :) glad it helped.

  • @robertalvarez6906
    @robertalvarez69064 ай бұрын

    Excellent! Would you be able to point me to the "next video" that helps explain AWS State/Stateless that you mentioned?

  • @kodak9521
    @kodak95212 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again for the great video 😀😀😀

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @Work-wj8wv
    @Work-wj8wv9 ай бұрын

    video starts at 8:20 if you already know the basics of what a firewall is.

  • @jayydon
    @jayydonАй бұрын

    Great video, subscribed and liked. Just curious wouldn't modern systems only use the ranges of 49152 to 65535 as their ephemeral ports?

  • @MegaNatebreezy
    @MegaNatebreezy6 ай бұрын

    Great video! I am looking to block inbound SMB port 445 across Windows workstations in my environment. If I leave workstations with the ability to make an outbound SMB connection to a printer server and allow the print/file server inbound SMB allow access, will the computers still be able to communicate with the server back and forth (outbound + inbound) even though there is a deny rule on incoming SMB connections? How will the Firewall know which to choose since the rules are almost conflicting, is it going to choose the automatic deny?

  • @miguelpimentel1155
    @miguelpimentel1155 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, super explained recommended

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it

  • @xtoefield
    @xtoefield Жыл бұрын

    holy hell!! this ws explained very well. subbed!!

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks, glad you like it.

  • @silverbell6160
    @silverbell6160 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent, thank you

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped

  • @sfletcherjones
    @sfletcherjones Жыл бұрын

    Very well explained video and excellently well illustrated to boot - I would say one thing and thats the use of the ephemeral port numbers which are the same as the IP of the target which threw me for a second as confusing but maybe might mislead others into thinking the port number somehow defaults to the IP of the target which it wouldnt i suspect? Loved the video as my go to explainer for people and myself when i have to jog the grey matter.

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    that's not a bad idea actually.. i might tweak that in the next version. Thanks.

  • @NostalgistGuy
    @NostalgistGuy11 ай бұрын

    one of the best. thanks

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    11 ай бұрын

    Glad you like it!

  • @TheNitesh101
    @TheNitesh101 Жыл бұрын

    Nice articulated 😊

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! 🙂

  • @Salty_Matter
    @Salty_Matter11 күн бұрын

    Amazing explanation. Just amazing

  • @ggin2008
    @ggin2008 Жыл бұрын

    super helpful. Thanks for this. What do you use to create these diagrams? If you don't mind sharing.

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    it's not one single tool ... it would be a whole set of videos itself to show how to create them.

  • @ggin2008

    @ggin2008

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LearnCantrill I can imagine. they are very good and it would awesome if you could demonstrate it some day. thank you so much for all the work you do. really helpful and high quality content.

  • @whatshatnin4572
    @whatshatnin4572Ай бұрын

    Hey There. Im taking your AWS Solutions Architect - Professional course. It has been a great experience. I am stuck on one demo because I need to increase my vCPU limit to create an EC2. Currently my vCPU limit is 8. How do I increase it and how much should i increase it

  • @jesiotra6246
    @jesiotra62462 жыл бұрын

    great video!

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @Rgroose
    @Rgroose10 ай бұрын

    great, thanks

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    10 ай бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @DrDoktor60
    @DrDoktor60 Жыл бұрын

    Satisfactory ❤

  • @gangisandeepreddy
    @gangisandeepreddy2 жыл бұрын

    I think AWS security group acts like a Stateful firewall? Am I correct?

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    2 жыл бұрын

    correct !! , with some additional enhancements ... since security groups can reference other security groups and themselves :)

  • @kingtop171
    @kingtop1714 ай бұрын

    It’d be a crime to follow, like and comment. Thank you for a Job well done!

  • @rahulpurimetla1152
    @rahulpurimetla1152 Жыл бұрын

    Super presentation

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @sfletcherjones
    @sfletcherjones Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    thank you !! :)

  • @kimshatteen222
    @kimshatteen222 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you like.

  • @omribenhur6954
    @omribenhur6954 Жыл бұрын

    you are the man baruch hashem

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    glad you like :)

  • @jiho1960
    @jiho1960 Жыл бұрын

    Legend!

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks, glad you like.

  • @TheMbudzeni
    @TheMbudzeni2 жыл бұрын

    Then why would people opt to use stateless firewalls instead of stateful firewalls?

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    2 жыл бұрын

    in most cases you wouldn't - it's an older tech. it gives you a little more control .. you can control both sides of traffic flow.

  • @mdgm88

    @mdgm88

    2 жыл бұрын

    With AWS security groups (stateful) apply to things like instances (e.g. EC2, RDS) and ELB. NACL (stateless) apply at the subnet level. You’d probably always use security groups where you can, and use NACL in addition if you need a bit of extra control e.g. to block all pings to a subnet.

  • @c.s1055
    @c.s10552 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤

  • @akashagarwal6390
    @akashagarwal63906 ай бұрын

    Nobody does it better...

  • @devwebj7686
    @devwebj76862 жыл бұрын

    waiting for layer 6 and 7

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    2 жыл бұрын

    Stay tuned.

  • @danielc4698
    @danielc469810 ай бұрын

    good video, but to put it clearer , if the packet go to the router, INBOUND, if they leave OUTBOUND. it is the perspective of the router.

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    10 ай бұрын

    how is that clearer? you've just used a router vs a client/server ?

  • @priyankamahesh6944
    @priyankamahesh6944 Жыл бұрын

    WTF 😳 my brain exploded , couldn’t understand anything. Pls simplify next time.

  • @LearnCantrill

    @LearnCantrill

    Жыл бұрын

    This is the simplified version. But there is other stuff you need to understand first. Maybe check out my networking fundamentals series.

  • @c.s1055

    @c.s1055

    2 ай бұрын

    Me too

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