Judge how much George Lucas "borrowed" from the movie 633 Squadron for the Death Star attack.
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@TheophilusPWildbeest13 жыл бұрын
May the Royal Air Force be with you!
@kd6rxl13 жыл бұрын
Lucas was quite frank back in 1977 that he had studied clips from a number of WWII films to block out the combat scenes. He wanted that part of his far-out sci-fi epic to fit Hollywood conventions and audience expectations.
@XcessiveNinja1712 жыл бұрын
"I just lost my starboard engine" -> it's the left wing that's on fire
@TheJorgSacul16 жыл бұрын
My brother told me about this in 1977-- he recognized it immediately. Of course, I thought he was nuts and ignored him, until today. Great work!
@THEOUTCASTSCREATIVE14 жыл бұрын
Lucas always acknowledged this and other films as an influence on Star Wars.
@4thwallpublishing15 жыл бұрын
mosquitos flying in 3's down a fijord, no room to manouver, having to hit a precision target, being fired at by flak, hunted by 109's.....
@oxmys14 жыл бұрын
"I can't shake it! I've got a wire attached to my wing!"
@harnois7513 жыл бұрын
The reason people refer to The Dambusters is because before Star Wars had its FX sequences shot, al the dogfights and space ship battles were put in with camera gun shots and war film footage as place holders. This is how it was originally shown to Ladd at 20th Century Fox. The Dambusters is the most obvious of these as lines of dialogue from the attack are directly lifted from the 1955 film, therefore it's obvious that the Death Star sequence was in part built up from it. But possibly 633 too.
@orangelion0313 жыл бұрын
My brother and I loved this film when we were kids (OK, we still do...). We went to see Star Wars together when it first showed in theaters and when they began the Death Star attack, we turned to each other and said "633 squadron!"
@gpmurf14 жыл бұрын
Excellent mashup. Lucas, however, has publicly acknowledged "The Dambusters" and other WWII films were a huge influence on the death star sequence.
@Juliusthebastard15 жыл бұрын
The theme tune for this was epic!
@4thwallpublishing15 жыл бұрын
Alot of tweeking but dramatically the scenes are VERY similar. There is some Tarkin windbaggery from some Germans and a torture scene (although no Solo rescue). Another film called Mosquito squadron (which uses bouncing bombs on a tunnel!) has the solosque last minute save.
@4thwallpublishing16 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! -Jeremy Sindon (Gold two - "3 marks at two ten") played a bomb disposal officer in a great series from the 1979 called "Danger uxb".
@Trek00115 жыл бұрын
sir... I was abot to dismiss this out of hand.. HOWEVER Well done to do this... great editing 5 stars and added to my fav list
@603mac14 жыл бұрын
The Force will be with you..........yeah that would be the Royal Air Force
@BattleOfBritainTV15 жыл бұрын
Very good! although at 3:37 you included footage from the practice run with the chalk bombs. It's funny to see the big target with the sticky-tape 'X marks the spot' as if the Germans had set it up like that! The film 633 Squadron is really well made, and a good movie, let along a great war movie. There are quite a few other Star wars elements throughout the film you missed a trick a bit (the rebel base, the brother/ sister relationship ; the torture scene ... think vader and Leia......
@godzilla674012 жыл бұрын
It seems Mr. Lucas borrowed several ideass from several movies not only this one.
@ianrkav14 жыл бұрын
Yeah, George Lucas did say the fjiord run inspired the trench run in Star Wars:-)
@hayabusabart15 жыл бұрын
The Force is strong in this one.. brilliant editing.. well done
@4thwallpublishing15 жыл бұрын
well in a way you do as I believe the TIE engine noise is a p51 mustang played backwards (merlin under licensed). And your right only sound better than a merlin is 2 merlins.....
@BrunoChemalle12 жыл бұрын
OLD OLD OLD old old old republic
@grotty153515 жыл бұрын
"hey the actor who played the australian pilot in this movie is the guy who ...." his name is John Mellion
@EricFell14 жыл бұрын
That's amazing! Lucas copied the entire audio track from this sequence DIRECTLY from this movie?
@gordonsalive7514 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC!!!....glad others had noticed the similarities,was getting slightly bored of telling my star wars friends how much the death star attack resembled 633 squadron!
@HonoredGeneral15 жыл бұрын
Very Well Done! nice mashup. This movie was made in the early 60's using only 3 Mosquitos that were still flying. Impressive for those times. Nice Job! once again.
@CaptainNomura13 жыл бұрын
Actually both 633 Squadron and Dam Busters inspired George Lucas, I think I remember he admitting it in one of the interviews shortly after his first film. Anybody who saw both films immediately saw the connection.
@modernredeye16 жыл бұрын
I realised where he got the Death Star attack as soon as I saw it. Obvious to anyone who saw both films. Better theme tune in 633 Squadron and nicer machines! Originals always better!
@flyingjoejackson15 жыл бұрын
Well done Spartacus! very clever bit of editing. If only someone would make a film about the Mosquito raid on Amiens prison....now that WOULD be a classic. Mosquito was infinately better than the Lanc or the spit anyway.
@Karagianis15 жыл бұрын
it's a mix, there's a line from dam busters near the beginning, the trench run is from 633 squadron, and the final explosion is from Guns of Navarone.
@richardwillett14 жыл бұрын
I've thought this since 1977 when I first saw Star Wars!
@QSDigitalVideo15 жыл бұрын
Good work Spartacus. Lucas doesn't deny getting inspiration from WWII movies, but I'm not sure it was this specific one.
@Lincolnlineman15 жыл бұрын
Lol, I never considered 633 squadron as being borrowed, only The Dam busters. Anyone else notice the end to Independence Day also borrowed a bit from these films? The narrow run with no room to manoeuvre, flights of 3 aircraft, last shot making the win?
@N17C114 жыл бұрын
All kinds of awesome - two of my favourite movies!!!
@myrtlevilleace15 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, besides those twin Merlins sound better than a TIE.
@4thwallpublishing15 жыл бұрын
Oh definatly. Although vaguely remember hearing a story that the TIE noise was a mustang engine played backwards (which ironically would make it a merlin made under license). Just wish Mossies flew again...
@sbl19520714 жыл бұрын
I thought so back when Stars came out, Very good spoof. I've always enjoyed 633 Squadron as well even though the special effects were primitive. Thank you.
@lighthousecollector16 жыл бұрын
great stuff -very clever -as a fan of Mosquitos and Star Wars I really appreciated this!
@LupusAries13 жыл бұрын
Interesting, however as an aviation enthusiast. that mixing up of the X-Wings eninges with the mosquitos is horrible, since the Mosquitos merlin Motor has a destinctive and definately other sound, and most beautiful if you ever heard a real one. Else it is interesting. It fit pretty nicely, well it was always sayd that much of the fighting scenes were inspired by such films and in the first cuts they were placeholders until the trick scenes were done.
@CaptWindShear12 жыл бұрын
Right On! Thought exactly the same thing myself the first time I saw Star Wars back in '77.
@lomax34315 жыл бұрын
The question of whether George Lucas borrowed from The Dam Busters (NOT Dambusters) or from 633 Squadron rather overlooks the possibility that 633 Squadron borrowed from the Dam Busters. Oh, and isn't that bit at 4:21 from Mosquito Squadron, not 633?
@cygil112 жыл бұрын
God damn it, it's almost shot for shot in places.
@terentii12 жыл бұрын
@doffincodger When they were free to maneuver, yeah, usually. When locked into an attack run at a fixed altitude and airspeed, though, it would have been easier for the Germans to bounce them. The German "fighters" in 633 were Messerschmitt Bf108 Taifuns, BTW. The Taifun wasn't a fighter, it was a trainer. It's the same plane James Garner and Donald Pleasance stole to fly to Switzerland in "The Great Escape."
@reese5alive14 жыл бұрын
An excellent interpretaion, well done. A difficult film to edit.
@OdeeOz14 жыл бұрын
Too funny. And pretty much accurate where he got some of the footage. Thanks for sharing Oh, great movie 633 Squadron is too. Well worth the watching.
@duxforddixie15 жыл бұрын
A better theatrical trailer than the original!!
@Robert26528312 жыл бұрын
Remake 633 Squadron please George Lucas
@SteveSabbai13 жыл бұрын
...except for a minor glitch at 2:20 this was very well done...matching up the audio with the video was excellent....
@220641141115 жыл бұрын
The plans for the Mosquito exist, there are surviving moulds for at least some of the moulded parts, and there are (very occasional) Mosquitos in "museum condition" sold - usually for a fair chunk of change. In principle, restoration to flying condition is possible. There are also Mosquito projects, but progress reports from those are far and few between. It seems that the Mosquito is a lot tougher than Spitfires and Hurricanes, both of which have been replicated.
@4thwallpublishing15 жыл бұрын
Yes the navigator (Stewie Macfee) (short one from the great escape) is practically R2D
@zenoist213 жыл бұрын
I like this film too. The special effects are pretty corny in places . It has a brilliant theme tune.
@BrianKorot14 жыл бұрын
OMG! WTF! LOL! That was just about scene for scene... Wow.... Darn you George Lucus!
@Gareth76915 жыл бұрын
nice - my two fave films combined cheers mate
@GarlicPudding14 жыл бұрын
Fantastic editing! consider this fav'ed.
@doffincodger13 жыл бұрын
Damn Clever! But miss the Merlin 'Moaning!
@GHMETCALFE13 жыл бұрын
Classic. I'm actually watching 633 Squadron right now on Netflix. Nicely put together clips, but I always flt that the Rebel Base scenes with all the pilot chatter was taken right from the movie "Midway" Check it out sometime.
@4thwallpublishing16 жыл бұрын
Thats the Folkewolf TA 154 i believe which was a German wooden plane - inspired by the British "wooden wonder" called the Dehaviiland Mosquito
@TheFett00716 жыл бұрын
This edit is amazing.
@DEP71715 жыл бұрын
That was brilliant! Five stars easily! Great mixing skills!
@randomperson186515 жыл бұрын
Good job matching the voice to the mouth movements
@therookpiece14 жыл бұрын
Masterful. It works so well.
@sapphire20018215 жыл бұрын
I especially liked the briefing scene... and the firing sound effects go so well with the lousy visuals!
@Sundancetr414 жыл бұрын
This was funny great editing!
@Valkyrie80114 жыл бұрын
Hilarious! Well done! I got a laugh outa' this one!
@dancerman113814 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Bloody Brilliant Thank you
@emforty214 жыл бұрын
Lucas was 9 years old when he saw this ! and "may the force be with you" LOL !
@slartibartfast171216 жыл бұрын
absolutely brilliant
@4thwallpublishing15 жыл бұрын
Thanks Enterprise! Thats even better I think- apt that a merline would be used for the Falcon.
@SteveSabbai13 жыл бұрын
...nicely done
@stufield749714 жыл бұрын
I always thought there were some similarities. This is great.
@volumex200013 жыл бұрын
yes but where was Hann Solo and his Millenium Falcon ?
@CreweMike12 жыл бұрын
I used to bullseye womp rats. That bit cracked me up!
@orangelion0313 жыл бұрын
Staring Angus Lennie as R2D2!
@4thwallpublishing15 жыл бұрын
Yeah the video has been chopped around a little, but the sound is pretty much the trench run shortened.
@SirArthur10014 жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@Drunkenmaster77015 жыл бұрын
awesome. great job
@robby76214 жыл бұрын
That was awsome, well done
@Killamarshian15 жыл бұрын
I think they have, it's called 'Mosquito Squadron'
@budgiefeathers15 жыл бұрын
hey the actor who played the australian pilot in this movie is the guy who did the narration of the vb ads before he died and he star in crocdile dundee with paul hogan.
@olentangy7414 жыл бұрын
Bravo ! Well done !
@sapphire20018215 жыл бұрын
Heh, excellent stuff! Lucas obviously took lots of scenes from both Dambusters and 633 Sqdrn., the pilfering cad.
@Hudson63315 жыл бұрын
The 633 will be with you, always. ALWAIS!
@doffincodger13 жыл бұрын
The De Havilland Mosquito was generally too fast to be shot down by enemy fighters ?
@no1bodace14 жыл бұрын
Man this made me laugh.... thanks for putting it together.
@MrsRoguedemonhunter14 жыл бұрын
Oh... I also loved this movie too. hehe Sit and watch it with dad. Awesome.
@MarcJboy13 жыл бұрын
This is excellent parody mate well done!! Love both comparisons, obviously no offence to WW2 either, a lot of brave men in fiction but in spirit
@lwilde13 жыл бұрын
Very good!
@TheTenderBear12 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison!!!!!
@4thwallpublishing15 жыл бұрын
True- atleast Lucas had the imagination to transpose it to space - Emmerich didn't even make that leap.
@4thwallpublishing15 жыл бұрын
Cheers- yeah thought about including that but it kind of doesn't mix with the planes so well. Its funny though I think I thought of that torture scene when I first saw starwars!
@4thwallpublishing15 жыл бұрын
Yep,if only there was one still flying...
@Sauciflash15 жыл бұрын
great find
@koalashooter115 жыл бұрын
lol i remember watching this movie...
@TheGroundedAviator14 жыл бұрын
I'd say both film's influenced Star Wars.
@Litzen2k13 жыл бұрын
RIP Poorkins..
@cirian7513 жыл бұрын
@roguewarrior5 Lucas him self said it inspired the Death Star trench run.
@RJM101115 жыл бұрын
Great!
@4thwallpublishing12 жыл бұрын
@Trashcansam123 actually i made this before I saw the Keiper one. I think its clear Lucas borrowed heavily from both
@Zombihamster16 жыл бұрын
Love it!!!
@CrazyKraut2013 жыл бұрын
when i see those old planes and i hear things like "lock s coils in attack position" or "switch shields to double front " i have to laugh XD 5:07 comes straight out of monty python "no im alright BLARGh" XXD
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May the Royal Air Force be with you!
Lucas was quite frank back in 1977 that he had studied clips from a number of WWII films to block out the combat scenes. He wanted that part of his far-out sci-fi epic to fit Hollywood conventions and audience expectations.
"I just lost my starboard engine" -> it's the left wing that's on fire
My brother told me about this in 1977-- he recognized it immediately. Of course, I thought he was nuts and ignored him, until today. Great work!
Lucas always acknowledged this and other films as an influence on Star Wars.
mosquitos flying in 3's down a fijord, no room to manouver, having to hit a precision target, being fired at by flak, hunted by 109's.....
"I can't shake it! I've got a wire attached to my wing!"
The reason people refer to The Dambusters is because before Star Wars had its FX sequences shot, al the dogfights and space ship battles were put in with camera gun shots and war film footage as place holders. This is how it was originally shown to Ladd at 20th Century Fox. The Dambusters is the most obvious of these as lines of dialogue from the attack are directly lifted from the 1955 film, therefore it's obvious that the Death Star sequence was in part built up from it. But possibly 633 too.
My brother and I loved this film when we were kids (OK, we still do...). We went to see Star Wars together when it first showed in theaters and when they began the Death Star attack, we turned to each other and said "633 squadron!"
Excellent mashup. Lucas, however, has publicly acknowledged "The Dambusters" and other WWII films were a huge influence on the death star sequence.
The theme tune for this was epic!
Alot of tweeking but dramatically the scenes are VERY similar. There is some Tarkin windbaggery from some Germans and a torture scene (although no Solo rescue). Another film called Mosquito squadron (which uses bouncing bombs on a tunnel!) has the solosque last minute save.
Outstanding! -Jeremy Sindon (Gold two - "3 marks at two ten") played a bomb disposal officer in a great series from the 1979 called "Danger uxb".
sir... I was abot to dismiss this out of hand.. HOWEVER Well done to do this... great editing 5 stars and added to my fav list
The Force will be with you..........yeah that would be the Royal Air Force
Very good! although at 3:37 you included footage from the practice run with the chalk bombs. It's funny to see the big target with the sticky-tape 'X marks the spot' as if the Germans had set it up like that! The film 633 Squadron is really well made, and a good movie, let along a great war movie. There are quite a few other Star wars elements throughout the film you missed a trick a bit (the rebel base, the brother/ sister relationship ; the torture scene ... think vader and Leia......
It seems Mr. Lucas borrowed several ideass from several movies not only this one.
Yeah, George Lucas did say the fjiord run inspired the trench run in Star Wars:-)
The Force is strong in this one.. brilliant editing.. well done
well in a way you do as I believe the TIE engine noise is a p51 mustang played backwards (merlin under licensed). And your right only sound better than a merlin is 2 merlins.....
OLD OLD OLD old old old republic
"hey the actor who played the australian pilot in this movie is the guy who ...." his name is John Mellion
That's amazing! Lucas copied the entire audio track from this sequence DIRECTLY from this movie?
FANTASTIC!!!....glad others had noticed the similarities,was getting slightly bored of telling my star wars friends how much the death star attack resembled 633 squadron!
Very Well Done! nice mashup. This movie was made in the early 60's using only 3 Mosquitos that were still flying. Impressive for those times. Nice Job! once again.
Actually both 633 Squadron and Dam Busters inspired George Lucas, I think I remember he admitting it in one of the interviews shortly after his first film. Anybody who saw both films immediately saw the connection.
I realised where he got the Death Star attack as soon as I saw it. Obvious to anyone who saw both films. Better theme tune in 633 Squadron and nicer machines! Originals always better!
Well done Spartacus! very clever bit of editing. If only someone would make a film about the Mosquito raid on Amiens prison....now that WOULD be a classic. Mosquito was infinately better than the Lanc or the spit anyway.
it's a mix, there's a line from dam busters near the beginning, the trench run is from 633 squadron, and the final explosion is from Guns of Navarone.
I've thought this since 1977 when I first saw Star Wars!
Good work Spartacus. Lucas doesn't deny getting inspiration from WWII movies, but I'm not sure it was this specific one.
Lol, I never considered 633 squadron as being borrowed, only The Dam busters. Anyone else notice the end to Independence Day also borrowed a bit from these films? The narrow run with no room to manoeuvre, flights of 3 aircraft, last shot making the win?
All kinds of awesome - two of my favourite movies!!!
Totally agree, besides those twin Merlins sound better than a TIE.
Oh definatly. Although vaguely remember hearing a story that the TIE noise was a mustang engine played backwards (which ironically would make it a merlin made under license). Just wish Mossies flew again...
I thought so back when Stars came out, Very good spoof. I've always enjoyed 633 Squadron as well even though the special effects were primitive. Thank you.
great stuff -very clever -as a fan of Mosquitos and Star Wars I really appreciated this!
Interesting, however as an aviation enthusiast. that mixing up of the X-Wings eninges with the mosquitos is horrible, since the Mosquitos merlin Motor has a destinctive and definately other sound, and most beautiful if you ever heard a real one. Else it is interesting. It fit pretty nicely, well it was always sayd that much of the fighting scenes were inspired by such films and in the first cuts they were placeholders until the trick scenes were done.
Right On! Thought exactly the same thing myself the first time I saw Star Wars back in '77.
The question of whether George Lucas borrowed from The Dam Busters (NOT Dambusters) or from 633 Squadron rather overlooks the possibility that 633 Squadron borrowed from the Dam Busters. Oh, and isn't that bit at 4:21 from Mosquito Squadron, not 633?
God damn it, it's almost shot for shot in places.
@doffincodger When they were free to maneuver, yeah, usually. When locked into an attack run at a fixed altitude and airspeed, though, it would have been easier for the Germans to bounce them. The German "fighters" in 633 were Messerschmitt Bf108 Taifuns, BTW. The Taifun wasn't a fighter, it was a trainer. It's the same plane James Garner and Donald Pleasance stole to fly to Switzerland in "The Great Escape."
An excellent interpretaion, well done. A difficult film to edit.
Too funny. And pretty much accurate where he got some of the footage. Thanks for sharing Oh, great movie 633 Squadron is too. Well worth the watching.
A better theatrical trailer than the original!!
Remake 633 Squadron please George Lucas
...except for a minor glitch at 2:20 this was very well done...matching up the audio with the video was excellent....
The plans for the Mosquito exist, there are surviving moulds for at least some of the moulded parts, and there are (very occasional) Mosquitos in "museum condition" sold - usually for a fair chunk of change. In principle, restoration to flying condition is possible. There are also Mosquito projects, but progress reports from those are far and few between. It seems that the Mosquito is a lot tougher than Spitfires and Hurricanes, both of which have been replicated.
Yes the navigator (Stewie Macfee) (short one from the great escape) is practically R2D
I like this film too. The special effects are pretty corny in places . It has a brilliant theme tune.
OMG! WTF! LOL! That was just about scene for scene... Wow.... Darn you George Lucus!
nice - my two fave films combined cheers mate
Fantastic editing! consider this fav'ed.
Damn Clever! But miss the Merlin 'Moaning!
Classic. I'm actually watching 633 Squadron right now on Netflix. Nicely put together clips, but I always flt that the Rebel Base scenes with all the pilot chatter was taken right from the movie "Midway" Check it out sometime.
Thats the Folkewolf TA 154 i believe which was a German wooden plane - inspired by the British "wooden wonder" called the Dehaviiland Mosquito
This edit is amazing.
That was brilliant! Five stars easily! Great mixing skills!
Good job matching the voice to the mouth movements
Masterful. It works so well.
I especially liked the briefing scene... and the firing sound effects go so well with the lousy visuals!
This was funny great editing!
Hilarious! Well done! I got a laugh outa' this one!
Brilliant Bloody Brilliant Thank you
Lucas was 9 years old when he saw this ! and "may the force be with you" LOL !
absolutely brilliant
Thanks Enterprise! Thats even better I think- apt that a merline would be used for the Falcon.
...nicely done
I always thought there were some similarities. This is great.
yes but where was Hann Solo and his Millenium Falcon ?
I used to bullseye womp rats. That bit cracked me up!
Staring Angus Lennie as R2D2!
Yeah the video has been chopped around a little, but the sound is pretty much the trench run shortened.
Great vid!
awesome. great job
That was awsome, well done
I think they have, it's called 'Mosquito Squadron'
hey the actor who played the australian pilot in this movie is the guy who did the narration of the vb ads before he died and he star in crocdile dundee with paul hogan.
Bravo ! Well done !
Heh, excellent stuff! Lucas obviously took lots of scenes from both Dambusters and 633 Sqdrn., the pilfering cad.
The 633 will be with you, always. ALWAIS!
The De Havilland Mosquito was generally too fast to be shot down by enemy fighters ?
Man this made me laugh.... thanks for putting it together.
Oh... I also loved this movie too. hehe Sit and watch it with dad. Awesome.
This is excellent parody mate well done!! Love both comparisons, obviously no offence to WW2 either, a lot of brave men in fiction but in spirit
Very good!
Nice comparison!!!!!
True- atleast Lucas had the imagination to transpose it to space - Emmerich didn't even make that leap.
Cheers- yeah thought about including that but it kind of doesn't mix with the planes so well. Its funny though I think I thought of that torture scene when I first saw starwars!
Yep,if only there was one still flying...
great find
lol i remember watching this movie...
I'd say both film's influenced Star Wars.
RIP Poorkins..
@roguewarrior5 Lucas him self said it inspired the Death Star trench run.
Great!
@Trashcansam123 actually i made this before I saw the Keiper one. I think its clear Lucas borrowed heavily from both
Love it!!!
when i see those old planes and i hear things like "lock s coils in attack position" or "switch shields to double front " i have to laugh XD 5:07 comes straight out of monty python "no im alright BLARGh" XXD
@BlueFox284 Blimey indeed your right. Cheers