You are right about climbing the flywheel. I talked to a guy at our local club that had a superior throw him across his yard. Apparently all the plates and screws in his leg has turned him into a great weather predictor. He now has air start on the engine.

When I was a kid in southwest New York, I used to wake up to this type of sound from the pump station across the valley. I never got to see the engine, but I have been looking at and listening to oil pump engines for years and this is the first I have heard that makes that really slow exhaust sound. Took me back.

I grew up in a little central Louisiana oil patch town named "Tullos". The pop-pop-pop of these little engines lulled me to sleep every night and when (for some reason) one stopped, I immediately woke. We have an old "railroad" Elgin pocket watch that saved my grandfather's life by shielding his midsection from the shrapnel from an exploding engine that he was trying to start. Never knew what he did wrong, but, obviously he did something wrong.

Golly I remember hearing these bang away out in the distance. Sound of money.

Granddad (born 1905) told me that the hot tube engines used to have a platinum ring in the hot tube to promote ignition. He always wanted to get ahold of one of those to make a ring for Grandma, but I guess everybody had the same idea. As to the engine "sucking the safety on the bottle closed" the oilfield engines had accumulators. They were like small versions of the huge coal gas tanks. I watched a video with one once. The accumulator would slowly fill, and then when the engine "hit" it would suck down a lot of the gas, then it would refill during the "miss" cycle. If I ever get an engine, I want to track down a spider and one or two pump jacks for it to run.

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

I like the story that your granddad wanted to make a ring for your grandma that’s neat but this is what I was told about the accumulator one some called them gas-o-meters we had one on the first Reid we had and they are oil filled to keep them from leaking and two I was always told you only need one when the hot tube and engine are on the same fuel source due to these engines running on very low fuel pressure there was a chance that if the engine it a hard enough load it could suck the flame out in the hot tube then you have lost ignition and if that happens now you have gas not being burned flowing into the building and with open flame lighting like yellow dogs that’s what will set the building on fire or make it explode and as for them refilling on the miss cycle they very well would refill on a miss cycle but there are not very many oil engines that are hid and miss there are a few but the majority including Reid Bessemer and ball are all 2 cycle there is no miss they only miss because the fuel mixture isn’t right and there are a lot of things that can affect that when you run a hot tube and humidity is a big one

Could you imagine working next to one of those, hearing that 12hrs aday? In your sleep. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

THANK YOU, for educating me, and others. I didn't know that about the tube. I only knew how the original "hot bulbs" work.

Safety is an important aspect thanks for sharing 👍 never knew

Fantastic video !! A friend Joe Prindle told me about the flames out front as a good indication to how much fuel . Thanks for a great video. Jim.

@engineerinhickorystripehat9475

Жыл бұрын

How's his leg?

@jimfrench8105

Жыл бұрын

@@engineerinhickorystripehat9475 Hello. Not me and the leg.. I have a damaged neck with trapped nerves from pulling on my Reid. But thanks for asking. I'm looking at ways to crank it forwards and backwards for the start.

@engineerinhickorystripehat9475

Жыл бұрын

@@jimfrench8105 joe just about lost his leg to an infection

Thats experience & common sense that makes it look so easy. Jolly good show!

In the early 70s I would go to sleep listening to the sound of one of these running two pumps at once. Boy do i miss the sound of these.

Thanx about the comment on the foot and spoke/climbing the flywheel. Somebody will meet there maker someday.

Great video sir.

Very cool video! Would love to see more!

Great to learn from, thank you!

What a lovely bit of gear. Nice work.

Thats awesome! I would love have one of those!

Very cool. Darlington, South Carolina

great, love to see it.

Old school tec, only way to go

Awesome

I was willed a 1915:20hp Reid oil firld engine. ran once I know about 30yrs ago but I didn't observe the start sequence . But i have it tunning on vhs video

It is a cool smooth running engine for now.

That was cool never seen this imaine when they used these a long time ago interesting

That is so fucking cool

Wise words. What’s the little wheel on top of the engine for ?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

The little wheel is called a drillers wheel or a telegraph wheel depending on who you talk to but it is for engines that run drilling rigs there would be another wheel like it on the drilling platform and a cable would be wrapped around them it allowed the driller to control the speed of the engine from the platform instead of waking back to the engine itself

Nice Reid. I see that it only runs in "4stroke" mode. (Hits every other stroke) That probably helps it run slow. I wonder why though? Is it too lean and wont fire the first time around? Then it pulls another charge making it rich enough to fire (the 2nd time)?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

7 ай бұрын

Most of the issue with it skipping is ignition a hot tube is very inconsistent the other part of that is I don’t have an accumulator for the fuel so it’s possible it don’t have enough but if I speed it up it will fire every time.

England was Speculating on going to Hot Bulb Engines, for their Tanker Ships, Because they use the fuel they’re hauling, and Weight Hauling to Fuel Consumption is Better, They were saying. And can use any fuel.

And this is why they were started and run continuously without being shut off.

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

6 ай бұрын

That depends on oil production I knew several old guys that as a kid went out and were responsible for starting multiple engines every morning now at a show if I can start in the morning with less people and let it run into the night then shut down I do

Looks really safe

great engine for sure ...good video too. question... does one cylinder bring in the charge and the other cylinder compresses and fires the mix?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

Yes the out side cylinder brings it in charges the drive cylinder in the center then it compresses it and fires

@chupacabra1765

Жыл бұрын

I was gonna ask the same question, So it's sort of like a turbo charger, except in this case its a pistocharger.

Thanks for all the safety tips. What's a "hot tube"?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

The hot tube is exactly what the name implies it’s a hollow metal tube that is threaded into the head of the engine and it glows cheery red that is your ignition source instead of a spark

@frankschwartz7405

Жыл бұрын

@@barnettsantiquemachinery4854 Thanks for the information.

Do you have a 3D cross section view of this engine with all the parts labelled?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

I do not have one with the parts labeled but I do have cross sections from the original book such a thing could be made though

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

All of the cross sections I have are 2D but I do have a complete parts list from the factory including all of the aftermarket options and factory options

I got around one of those M F era decades ago it is Ine Scary Bastard stay Away far Away

How much propane does this engine use over a given time? This thing is awesome. I want one. Have small flywheel engines currently. 7 herc and a couple JD.

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

2 ай бұрын

I can run on a 20 lb bottle for about 4 hours total but it will frost one in about 3 hours so I have to warm it back up to get that extra little bit out of it if you are running the hot tube on the same bottle it will cut that down quite a bit

@BigBlockSpence

2 ай бұрын

@@barnettsantiquemachinery4854 There’s a 25 on eBay now. Wonder if it’s any good. Are these engines finicky to get tuned in to run good?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

2 ай бұрын

@@BigBlockSpence they aren’t to bad if all of the valving is sealed and the the regulator pistons are set correctly starting from scratch it’s a lot of cranking to find out what each engine wants fuel wise they are pretty close but they each have their own personalities the biggest thing people run into is they are notoriously easy to flood

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

2 ай бұрын

There is one on Facebook marketplace for sale that I believe the person listing it thinks its a ball engine and the have it spelled boll but the pics that are their are a Reid I don’t know what size looks to be a 15 or 20 hp it’s in West Virginia I think they want $1,000 for it but it said if it don’t sell it’s getting scrapped so someone could probably get it really cheap

Just went and got a 25 last week. Cant get it to run very good. Sometimes not at all. Not sure what’s going on. Almost seems like it’s flooding. It’ll wear a guy out. Were there service or repair manuals made for these? I need as much info on them as I can get.

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

2 ай бұрын

Yes there is a Reid manual I don’t know if you are a member of the (O.F.E.S.) Oilfield engine society group on Facebook but in the group files is a pdf of the entire Reid manual and parts list I believe it’s like 79 pages long

you are right it fired whem i did not espected it!! slow turn you even had time to leave and then bangggg view secs later

Help needed. My son purchased a 15hp Reid type A. We have tried to start it numerous times. Recently we had a friend look at it. The crossover value is missing copper rings. Do you have a contact where I could purchase a top and bottom ring?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

Ok so as far as I know no one is making them you have to make them it is very easy to do if you have a local advance auto they usually have it in stock if not they can order it but you need a bosh oil gage install kit that has copper the tubing in roll it measure where the rings need to go then cut them to length get the gap as close as you can it doesn’t have to be perfect but the closer the better once you have them cut to length take a torch and heat them up until they glow it doesn’t have to be all at one you can heat it in sections once the cool place them over the valve and put it in DONT hammer them flat first let the valve crush them they seal better now I am not going to lie mine still leaks just a little but it runs just fine and offset the gaps in them just like you would piston rings if you need it I can make a video on how to do this

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

Had a typo you need a Bosch install kit

@dalehammond6712

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

@engineerinhickorystripehat9475

Жыл бұрын

@@barnettsantiquemachinery4854 did burnsy quit entirely ?

How long do those 20 pound bottles last on this thing?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

I can run about 6 hours

I wished you would have explained the engines principle of operation. Why does it have two cylinders of different sizes, with 90 degrees crankshaft orientation? What controls the intake and exhaust events? Is the smaller cylinder a sliding valve?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

9 ай бұрын

that exists over on my TikTok account

@CATech1138

7 ай бұрын

piston pump scavenged two stroke operation

@austincjett

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info. Those six key words definitely would have made searching easier.

That's alright.

This engine is new to me. Why does it have two cylinders?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

7 ай бұрын

The cylinder in the center is the cylinder that is running the engine the outside cylinder is basically a large fuel pump

That thing looks like it’s about to fall over

What will we do in The quarter mile ?

@michaelsimpson9779

6 ай бұрын

Lol

They still use these in the oilfields

@JK360noscope

Жыл бұрын

Lmao outlasted three generations of owners

What is this engine supposed to do?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

This engine was designed for oil field work they could be set up and used to run the drilling rigs or what most did was run a central power oil lease it and the power sat in a central location on the lease and then rod lines (aka) sucker rods ran from the power house out to the pump jacks to move them so this engine was capable of running several wells at once

Maybe some headers

I wouldn't feel comfortable running that without a cooling tank connected.

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

7 ай бұрын

It’s no worse than a hopper cooled engine with water in the jacket it can only get to boiling now I agree I would not want to run it all day that way but for 20-30 minutes as long as water is over the cylinder it isn’t going to hurt anything

internal fired sterling engine!

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

I understand where it’s seems like that’s what’s happening here but a stirling works due to a temperature difference and air displacement the Reid in this video is a traditional internal combustion engine the burner and the tube are an ignition source for the air and fuel the second piston is basically a fancy fuel pump

Need to 4 Barrel carburetors on it.

All the ancient pumpers may disagree.

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

They very well might but some of them are the ones that taught me.

@ericbucato4561

Жыл бұрын

nice video.it for sale??

How long with that run on that 20 pounder?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

I can get about 6 hours out of it

@snicks50

Жыл бұрын

@@barnettsantiquemachinery4854 Nice do you have any idea of under load ?

@snicks50

Жыл бұрын

Can I also ask what is that tube on the compressor side for on yours. I just got one of these engines after my grand father passed away.

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

@@snicks50 to stay on the safe side I would cut it in half I am not sure exactly mine isn’t loaded but it depends on several elements like how big the load is how long it’s loaded and your speed at idle mine on the hot tube isn’t firing ever revolution like it should with that being said if it was the consumption rate will be dramatically lower running at lower rpm like any engine the other problem is you will loose bottle pressure as the tank starts to frost I had someone tell me they could get 7 hours or so out of a small bottle before it would frost then they would stop the engine them the bottle warm up and they would get about another hot out of it

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

The reid my grandpa had was run on a 100 pound bottle and because it was in a mag and running at idle we could run it all week at Portland Indiana no problem with fuel to spare mine is on small bottles to run it temporarily but when it gets put on my trailer it will get 2 100 pound bottles one for fuel and one for the hot tube

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What fuel is being used?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

Propane

What’s the small cylinder for.

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

The smaller cylinder on the on the side is the charging cylinder it draws in the air fuel mixture and then charges it into the main drive cylinder at the same time it pushes the exhaust gas out

@CATech1138

7 ай бұрын

us newer fangled guys would call that cylinder a scavenging pump....also at a later point in history this cylinder layout was called a twingle or a twin piston "single"....usually without a cross over valve, instead using piston timing to create a reasonable cumbustion chamber volume....the whole idea is flush exhaust out and push fresh in during a single crank shaft rotation.....some early small Sachs motorcycle engines use the same technique

It would have started first try if there was no camera. Lol

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

That statement is so true I have been in that situation more times than I care to admit

I wonder how this engine would run wood gass

I wondered about this horrendous queefing, but then you said there is no exhaust. lol

What's your drip rate on the oilers?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

on my oilers the reid manual itself says that the pot oilers hold enough oil to lube the engine for 24 hours I have not done the math to see what that comes out to but when I set them I run them where I get a drip every 25 to 30 seconds

@michaelhelmick8225

Жыл бұрын

@@barnettsantiquemachinery4854 Thanks for your reply. I think we're putting way too much oil on our Reid.

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelhelmick8225 you very well could be and I myself may have mine to fast but my grandpa always told me oil is cheaper than parts even when I know I have to much I run it anyway I would always rather have more than not enough

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelhelmick8225 and no problem I am glad to help

@michaelhelmick8225

Жыл бұрын

@@barnettsantiquemachinery4854 thanks. I may reach out to you to get some help on the transfer valve

2nd and 3rd biggest things ive seen reciprocating in a Reid 😂😂

Kinda looks like a Sterling engine that's been converted to gas.

Where is the governor?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

The governor on Reid’s was an option if it had one they are supposed to be mounted to the side of the block behind the valve body I don’t have mine on or hooked up yet I had some work to do on it and have not finished it

2 stroke ?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

yes it is 2 stroke

@Fairlane55

Жыл бұрын

Why is it only firing every 2 revolutions like a 4 stroke?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

@@Fairlane55 it is very difficult to get engines like this to run correctly on a hot tube the hot tube ignition can be very inconsistent when not under load. temperature differences with the tube, placement of the hot spot, variations in the air fuel and humidity are all factors in the way these engines run while it is very possible to get a hot tube to run correctly getting it to run correctly on a consistent basis is the battle that all of us fight

Hit and,miss.engine.?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

It is of that era of engine but this one is not hit and miss it’s 2 cycle

@peterhenrikpoulsen2026

Жыл бұрын

@@barnettsantiquemachinery4854 i Thing,that. I only hear.its ignigt. Univel. Maby its Was Cold. Sorry i spillet,it wrong. ( i am from ,Denmark.) Hilsen Peter. Looking forward,to answer. Peter. Denmark.

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

@@peterhenrikpoulsen2026 it’s all good this is the entire reason my channel exists to explain things about these engines that most people don’t and I do believe I understand what you are asking so I will say that this engine is 2 cycle which means that it is supposed to fire every revolution but also you did hear it miss and I say that for lack of a better term this engine has no valving except for an intake and exhaust port in the main cylinder and it also has none of the governing system that makes a hit and miss work the miss in hit and miss is caused buy mechanical weights holding the exhaust valve of the engine open when it gets to a certain speed allowing it to coast with no compression or intake vacuum this engine can’t do that so the miss you hear is due to the fact that the ignition system is a tube that is glowing red hot we call these hot tubes they are an extremely reliable ignition source because there are no moving parts no wires and no magnets to creat a spark it’s literally just a heat source it’s basically a fancy glow plug that needs to run all the time they miss and don’t fire constantly when the engine idles due to a number of issues humidity is a big one and I don’t know why but it has a major affect on the way this engine runs if wind is blowing you can loose heat you could have inconsistencies in fuel pressure so the mixture may not have been right it is extremely hard to get a hot tube to run the correct way but it can be done

These have killed a lot of men

That thing speaks English..it goes: Tarp, Tarp, Tarp, Tarp...

8:11 when it actually starts and the talking is over

What I can hear you

If you're going to talk then have a microphone! I can't lip read when you're oiling the thing!!

Why not do the procedure the correct way you speak of? Are you in a hurry, got someplace to go?

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

Tried to get the run time down on the vid

You chastise and condescend for the first minute. Then “you do not stick your foot in the spoke” but you can stick your head though the spoke. WOW, boss you speak like everyone is a moron. Other than that, good video.

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

I am aware of what I did I normally don’t But in order to keep the vid short I had to light the tube first because it takes so long to heat up you can be mad all you want but when you go to a show and see a guy climbing each flywheel and 2 standing behind them pulling and all of them are on the same engine it needed to be said

@tacomas9602

Жыл бұрын

He’s just trying to get it done, at least he ACKNOWLEDGED the danger of such things and showed us. No different than old farmers 😅

Pedal to the metal... :)

You wasted 8 minutes of your breath and my time

@barnettsantiquemachinery4854

Жыл бұрын

Then I hate to give you bad news but this channel isn’t for you