subtractem is 100% right. every time the devs talk, most of the things they walk about are "we'd like to", "we want to", "we will", "we could" etc and it really gives the feeling that they are still super early in development

Resident console gamer here. While we’re talking about controller / keyboard parity, let me use a mouse for inventory/stash management. That’s the main pain point of controllers. As mentioned in the podcast, gameplay with a controller is great.

@Babrex

2 ай бұрын

I switched to PC myself because of all the stash management. My first maven kill was like on my 3rd league and I did that with a controller. Tight kiting becomes better on controller for me. If they fix the stash management on controller I don’t know how but if they do, I’m going back.

There was something that made me really mad in the middle, but I've completely forgotten it by now. So I guess it's another great podcast. :D

48:40 that whole spiel, wonderful.

@MaxxxMaxMaxx

2 ай бұрын

10/10 also helps that Trinity is kind of a stripper name also lol

@ondrejmarek1980

2 ай бұрын

Deadpan delivery sealed it tight

One of the reasons I like POE is that we can build one button or even zero button builds. I very much do not enjoy darksouls kind of game play, and seeing it creep into other games I enjoy is disappointing to say the least.

Was a cool episode! Thanks!

thanks

Man I’ve been enjoying all the podcasts you’ve been putting out.

Personally I don’t see the point of taking the left click instant skills away? Why can’t we just have both that and the new skill gem that would have been super dope.

Great episode. I'm a little anxious about necropolis balance, but the core game changes are fantastic. I'm planning a ridiculous tree based around the master limit changes. We'll see how it goes. Happy league start everybody.

They can easily prevent the numlock trick from working, at the expense of other stuff. Simply make it so holding down a button doesn't trigger a skill, only a downpress does?

If enough content creators got together and started to push the idea of swapping to a controller to loot I think GGG would have to address it. As long as it's mostly unknown they can ignore it, but if it starts to become the norm then players will feel the need for a controller to play at the same level, and GGG wont like the advantage for controllers.

@Dracwahl

2 ай бұрын

Nahhh, they'll just laugh at how atrocious the inventory management is with controller then continue to ignore it.

Enjoyed this one very much as per usual, thanks for constantly getting great guests catmaster

Part of me was wondering for a short time if we were still talking about PoE/LE when Sub was talking about penetration.

As a console player for 5k hrs, after playing on pc for 5k hrs, controller looting is nice and all, but id take better inventory managment over loot. I just buy quad tab after quad tab because clearing a dump tab is just awful. Everything about inventory management is TERRIBLE on controller, ive been begging for M&K on console since i got there.

We did get better graphics in PoE and improvements all the time. Maybe not much endgame, but at that point endgame was in a really good state.

Affliction was like Perandus league back in the day. Cadibro enabled us scrubs to get 20-50 exalted uniques (like belly of the beast, mjölner, voll's devotion). Tryhards really complained that casuals were able to play strong builds because of the league mechanic.

I have also been using last epoch to get my friends into path. its been hard but i think they are getting it cause they keep making new characters when they think of something and last epoch is not too wild .

@32:20 is a very important question raised by Catmaster.

I love snap and other guests very nice podcast 😋

Shout out to balor mage another player with bad hands who uses a controller for games. Poe adding controller support was a massive bonus for me.

Builds that can do a valdo could easily do the bosses for the drops. But not necessarily a nohit run.

Great poe podcast

I may play ssf this league but unsure what build to play yet

@2fat4airborne44

2 ай бұрын

can recommend the EA Champ - Zizarans most beloved starter. SSF viable and very tanky so it can be played even on HC. Very solid

@GRIMHOOD99

2 ай бұрын

Honestly as an SSFer you can probably play whatever that doesn't require specific unique to work this league, because crafting with graves seems strong enough to make crafting of upgrades much easier than it is normally.

love your videos, would love them more if there were timestamps

@catmasterOP

2 ай бұрын

Noted! I am currently really busy with a backlog of podcasts to be uploaded but I'd really like timestamps as well. Maybe I can finda good AI solution.

You should try controller on a regular lootfilter, its really bad. If there are any monsters alive in close proximity they get prioritized and targeted, boulders, chests, barrels etc. Breach was nearly impossible to play if you wanted to open any clasped hands, so the rework there is one of the biggest qol for controllers 😂

Listening to this as I still love the game. But for the first time in 4 years, I'm completely indifferent to POE. I've been enjoying LE so much that I don't feel any will to play POE right now haha. Especially as an SSF player, Circle of Fortune is so much more fun and rewarding if I compare to the grind in POE. But it's great to see the game improving. I'll try POE2 when it's out, but I think my time in POE1 is in the past.

I think GGG might want to look at PoE 2 development and start implementing some of the PoE 1 content cycle mindset.. Im starting to think we might not see PoE 2 full release for another few years.. Last Epoch is only going to continue to get better.. and if they really want to continue support for PoE1, they'll really be shooting themselves in the foot by delaying development of the core game to make sure we get shit like mounts in the game.

My biggest hope for necropolis is that zizarans push gets enough people into hc trade that its worth me going hardcore all the time.

@tinecchi3648

2 ай бұрын

I’ll be honest i think this might be one of the worst leagues to push people into hc because the league mechanic can’t be turned off xD Even in the campaign.

@tinecchi3648

2 ай бұрын

Not saying it’s a bad idea but just for this league I could see it turning out really bad with people perma dying to juiced monsters from the mechanic

@an0mndr

2 ай бұрын

@@tinecchi3648 oh I definitely agree HC will be rough with an unavoidable mechanic. But usually my only problem with HC is the small economy, so I'm hopeful. And at least I know I won't be alone. I wonder if DM is going HC trade

@pagannova3621

2 ай бұрын

@@tinecchi3648 it looked like you could click around the Lantern icon to click the door or zone, but, that might not be the case.

@HolyDawntaker

2 ай бұрын

​@@tinecchi3648you can choose to use the the mechanic in the campaign for what it looks like but for maps it might be always on

I think IIR and IIQ should be removed as affixes and replaced with stats similar to what you see on Thief's Trinkets and some rogue gear.. chance for specific dropped currency to roll into higher tier currency and/or chance to duplicate specific drops (scarabs, essences, maps, etc).. Then save affixes like "chance for chaos to drop as divine" for an MF unique likes Greed's and make it a tier 1 or tier 0 drop.. This would make MF always useful for without absolutely breaking the game when a mechanic like Affliction exists.. Going with a few cheap MF items should never be more efficient than fully min-maxing a character to run harder cintent faster..

We got cray scarabs t😂

@geoffreyrutherford9665

2 ай бұрын

T 17 with the boss scarabs go hard go fast before they break it

@geoffreyrutherford9665

2 ай бұрын

It ruins miinins

The impending doom change was not half baked they just chose to revert it because it was not in the patch notes. They also clearly thought through the use cases of instant skills on left mouse and chose to nerf it. Reddit just had a meltdown so they are doing damage control. Hopefully they will communicate nerfs more clearly in the future

@HolyDawntaker

2 ай бұрын

I think the changes to left click debacle is more to get people ready for poe 2 imo, since wasd is a thing in poe 2 and console players (like myself) would be or feel like they are missing out on having a skill with practically full uptime

@MrTheSmoon

2 ай бұрын

@@HolyDawntaker if wasd is a s superior as a lot of trust worthy people say then it would be worth giving up 40% uptime steel skin anyway. i would bet they just thought "this is a jank interaction" then looked at the telemetry of what skills are being used on left mouse and decided to address them (generally nerfing them reworking bone armor...). then the automation suport got put in a teaser by someone that was not part of the balance team and didn't realize how reddit would react.

cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers!!!! BINGING THIS BEFORE LEAGUE START CAUSE IM SO LOST HAHAHAHA. no idea what oty do now that my only learned starters are super painfully nerfed, buuuuuuuuuut balors srs necro sounds still amazing! and i can pivot to dd of chaining if i can afford the gem in early maps if it looks to expensive! buuuuuuuuuuuuuut why is lightning arrow league start so tempting hahahaaha plus i want ot enjoy the tri elel elehit IVE WAITED SO LONG and now its meta fav so i doubt ill be able to race the cost changes without play time but im excited ot ry white map alch and go as lightning arrow to farm up gear for a quick transition like srs poison or dd of chaining or archmage so cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers AND I HOPE WE ALL HAVE A BLAST EVEN IF MINE IS A 28 HOURS ACT 10 LMFAO

Frogs

I agree with balor entirely.. "relative" speed is all that ultimately matters.. I have a half dozen examples of SIGNIFICANTLY slower combat that I enjoy more than PoE..... BUT, PoE 1 has failed absolutely miserably at balancing speed, so, in my eyes, there are only a handful (at most) of actual viable builds in this game. If poE 2 drops and the fastest build is twice as fast as the 2nd fastest build, then PoE 2 will essentially only have 1 build option.

From the thumbnail I thought Andrew Tate was hosting this lol.

@catmasterOP

Ай бұрын

My head is way rounder and more beautiful than that tate egg 😡

@sulemanmalik8228

Ай бұрын

@@catmasterOP Not sure about that tbh but why the hate? He has helped millions of men around the world, including myself so he is a force for good in the world. Anyway, peace and good luck in the new league.

About the t17s the normal monster scaling won't scale DD damage but you can raise specters from those maps and they will have the highest HP for DD now. Also, I agree with Baylor I think they are gonna leave PoE 1 to the blasters. They will let us be totally degen and the Diablo 2 vision has moved on to PoE 2. Affliction was the start imo.

Twinstick controls are NOT new to the genre. Dude has never been playing ARPGs before.

I hope the dont invest anything to put was into poe1...

@catmasterOP

2 ай бұрын

same

People who complain and call for DD to get nerphed are so annoying. I played it last league and thought it was an okay skill. It was nothing like my tornado shot character.

@whiskoo9941

2 ай бұрын

its just racers and people who look at racers for metas without understanding it. same exact thing with seismic trap. they only nerfed seismic once it started to become a legitimately widespread play rate skill. same will happen when people pick it up this league. its playrate isnt spectactular because its not the easiest skill to play and it genuinely feels pretty awful to play despite it being so strong. and u have it completely wrong, you cant compare ts to dd, because dd doesnt have an infinitely scaling power ceiling like ts does, you cant throw more and more mirrors at dd to make it stronger, it will hit a cap significantly quicker than ts will, and so its playrate will drop off a cliff after leaguestart. the difference is dd will kill ubers on day 2 or 3 or even day 1 whereas a bow starter will be buying their voidstone carries on day 2. its strength is how corpse explosion scaling works so that it can throw so much of its power investment into defense so that it will never be slowed down by deaths on softcore, or the hands down most perfect skill in hardcore or any race setting. tldr; its about racers (in which no one should really care about) but the amount of people going to be playing it now will put it into the spotlight for nerfs just like seismic did

@psykedude

2 ай бұрын

​@@whiskoo9941 piggybacking off of this I would also add that TS is the worst skill to make such a comparison to since it has also been in the spotlight for many years for deserving a nerf.

so kinda curious but um why does nerfing skills in a pve game even matter ? like i get why it would matter spefically for stuff like races but outside of that ? its not like we are playing against each other like pvp so even if a build is giga op uber bosses on hour 3 who cares ? its not like anyone is forcing people to play the uber builds or anything why not let the people who enjoy that enjoy it im really curious about this kinda stuff and why it matters to people

@HolyDawntaker

2 ай бұрын

In terms of solo self found it doesn't really matter, but for trade league if you don't play a meta build/ really good mapper you feel like you're way behind those that are playing the meta. They clear faster or boss farm more efficiently so they gain more gear and currency which impacts prices and you start to either feel fomo or like your making no progress compared to others. Plus dd has been a top tier skill for years but if another skill has been a tip tier skill for a couple of leagues ggg nerfs it(see semsic traps or lighting conduit as examples) and dd stays the same

@gmoddude12

2 ай бұрын

i mean....isnt that people choosing to feel like that and choosing to run a build based on those personal feelings ? does not seem like fair reason to nerf or kill skills just because some people dont like feeling behind instead of just playing whatever they want@@HolyDawntaker

@HolyDawntaker

2 ай бұрын

@@gmoddude12 you are right but that still doesn't change the fact that dd has been top tier for years and doesn't get nerfed to shake things up but if another skill is tip tier for a league or 2 it sees a nerf

@gmoddude12

2 ай бұрын

@@HolyDawntaker i know as i Said i dont even get the idea of nerf in a game like this Since we dont really pvp and people have the option to choose so there should be no reason to nerf

@catmasterOP

2 ай бұрын

Just because it's PvE doesn't mean it's not competitive :)

Kind of annoyed about the conversation to nerf DD. It's only a racing issue, who cares. Ziz also brought this up with Mark. Streamers need to stop creating problems that don't exist. There are a zillion builds better than DD.

@catmasterOP

2 ай бұрын

The problems exists NOT only for streamers. You may not care, but tons of people enjoy watching competitive PoE and DD has consistently been the best choice for Gauntlets and league start races for YEARS.

Balormage wrong as usual. Kappa. Lol.

For ruthless hate at the start, please understand that it is not in a good place, they admitted it and said they have fixes internally already done, but they don't release it as they don't want the community outrage they had before. Joking about it and how much they got changes etc is perpetuating this, and has actively meant people who want to play ruthless get a worse experience. How entitled do you have to be to say it isn't enough that you get all these changes every league but you support the ggg hate for doing ruthless content, which means those who do want to play it have a worse experience. Current player count is lower as there are core issues keeping some from doing ruthless again. Issues they stated they fixed but do not release due to this entitled mentality.

@MrMollusk7

2 ай бұрын

The 13 ruthless players got their own ascendency passives and still have the nerve to use "entitled"

@viscrid4964

2 ай бұрын

There may be more if they fix the issues. People like you are entitled as it isnt enough for you to have all the content ggg release relevant to you so you have fun, you want them to not release content other people like so that they dont have fun

Balor they don't play the game like you claim. If they did, then why would they roll out terrible changes that the community complains about? If they played, they would have known how bad those changes were.

@HeshingtonMugabi

2 ай бұрын

Such as ?

You keep praising ggg like shills. Yet theyve turned the game unto a meme /mobile game. They clearly dint care about poe 1 anymore and are just throwing ish at a wall and taking what doesn't even stick. The vision was awful but this is beyond the opposite of the vision. Valdos maps need to be deletee.

@MannersPlease

2 ай бұрын

Nah

@ArpeLorpe

2 ай бұрын

Guy out here upvoting his own cooked takes 😂😂😂

@Patrins

2 ай бұрын

You ok buddy?

@dillonlaney1520

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like someone can’t make it outta white maps 🫣 funny u say they don’t even use what sticks tho. They’re getting more and more players each league so obviously they’re doing something right. Just cause they don’t suit “ur” needs doesn’t mean they’re doing everything wrong. If ur gonna have a hot take my guy/gal at least have a hot take that can make sense with some info to back it.