Starrett 98 Series level calibration procedure

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How to calibrate a Starrett precision level series 98.
I'll show the complete procedure to calibrate a precision level, and finding the leveled axis on a surface...
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  • @garycasteel9390
    @garycasteel93909 жыл бұрын

    That is the procedure we use to calibrate our precision levels. Starrett gives the same procedure in their introductory notes to the "Levels" section of their catalog. When we do the calibrations, we make sure of the following: 1. Level and surface plate are at the same temperature. I call this "normalized"- probably a misuse of the term. I like to let the levels sit on the surface plate for a few hours, if not overnight if there are extreme temperature differences (like a level that was in its box out in a vehicle in winter). 2. Clean the surface plate and level contacting surfaces well. 3. Using the heel of your hand, swipe over the surface plate and level base to feel for any slight burrs or dings. If you feel any, stone them off using a small stone. For burrs or dings that you can feel, I use a "hard India" stone and something very light like "LPS" or similar. When you are done with any stoning, wipe things down with lint-free wipers, such as "Kimwipes" (industrial grade tissues). At home, I use toilet paper. 4. If no burrs or dings are felt, I "kiss off" the contacting surface of the level. Lightly stone the level contacting surface with a smooth, hard Arkansas stone. I just give the contacting surface of the level a rub with the Arkansas stone, dry. 5. I use a "Sharpie" marker to outline the position of the level on the surface plate. 6. Position the level within the marked outline and note the reading. Follow what Leigh wrote to adjust the level. We call this "bucking in" the level. 7. When you are done with this "bucking in", you should be able to turn the level end for end and have the reading repeat. A Starrett 98 level is a precision level and is fairly easy to buck in. One graduation on the vial = 0.005" per foot. If you do this exercise with a Starrett 199 level , one graduation on the vial = 0.0005" per foot. Starrett calls their 199 series levels "Master Precision Levels". I call bucking-in a 199 Level "Chasing my tail". I have bucked in levels out in the field on any convenient flat surface such as machined & ground casing flanges on turbines. I have used the table of a Bridgeport or the flat way of a big LeBlond lathe as a flat surface to buck levels in. If you do not have a surface plate and put the level down on a flat surface, check that there is no "rock". The level must seat solidly on the flat surface. If you use a piece of plate glass or a large flat piece of metal, you must make sure that level sits solidyl on it with no "rock". If you can;t come up with a surface the level will sit solidly on, you can create one. To do this, you will need to shim one end of the level so the ends sit soldily. You can use shim stock or even something like a playing card. I did this once or twice out in the field with a level that was out of adjustment. I was doing a favor to a friend of a friend. He had a small sawmill and was setting up an old wood planer. He had an old Starrett 98 level that did not repeat its readings and had no really good flat surface to calibrate the level on. The planer tables were about the best machined surfaces in the guy's mill and those tables were not quite flat as a result of wear and years of rough conditions. Having no really good flat surface, I created a reference surface by shimming one end of the area the level was to sit on. The flattest surface was not realy that flat, and the level rocked a slight amount. I taped the shims down with ordinary Sctoch tape- made the shims large enough so the level sat on them, not the tape. I got the level bucked in fine and did the best I could with the old planer. Once you have the shims in place on the one end, you must not move them while you are "bucking in" the level. It comes down to establishing a solid reference "plane" or reference surface that the level is always seated in for adjustment. The business of "Stoning" off surfaces is something I was taught to do routinely. Many machinists and toolmakers as well as millwrights will "stone off" contacting surfaces. You are not looking to take off any measurable amounts of metal. What you are looking to do is to insure there are no slight burrs or raised areas of metal. Routine handling of precision surfaces can result in these tiny burrs or raised areas. The heel of a person's hand is often the best means of detecting any such burrs or dings. You might be surprised to see that careful stoning and cleaning can make quite a difference in accuracy and repeatability of a precision level.

  • @voxveritates2498

    @voxveritates2498

    7 жыл бұрын

    Excellent, thanks!

  • @gyromike1966

    @gyromike1966

    5 жыл бұрын

    @steve gale Bruh...if you're leaving "body grease" on a surface, you need to jump in a shower and scrub your nasty ass!

  • @johnridgeway6718

    @johnridgeway6718

    5 жыл бұрын

    Gary Casteel #1 I use the term “Soak” like in heat treating time requirements. #5 be careful of ink thickness from the Sharpie. Let it dry and usually one light pass with a very fine stone is good. The 98’s, all sizes, have a resolution of .005” Lenier foot. The 199 master has a resolution .0005” foot. The Granite Surface has to have a defined resolution also from the manufacturer. same with cast surface plates. The heat from your hands can be a factor also. 3 precision machine jacks method works the best on any work bench environment

  • @daryld1325

    @daryld1325

    4 жыл бұрын

    I love people like you. ty (apprentice millwright here)

  • @felixf5211

    @felixf5211

    2 ай бұрын

    IMO, using precision ground stones on the plate and all mating surfaces is crucial when looking for precise and repeatable results.

  • @DavoShed
    @DavoShed5 жыл бұрын

    I never thought of adjusting an angle plate to find a level plane on my surface plate. I should have no problem calibrating my level armed with that little nugget of information! Thanks David

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    5 жыл бұрын

    Glad you got something from the video... Thanks for viewing and for taking a moment to leave a comment, Pierre

  • @evaliket
    @evaliket6 жыл бұрын

    I just purchased a 98-4 Starrett level,Thank you for the very detailed instructions on how to calibrate it

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    6 жыл бұрын

    Those are quite reliable tools, and, quite easy to calibrate when you get the right method... Thanks for your comment, Pierre

  • @colinmansell3524
    @colinmansell35248 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your great advice, we have 3 Starrett 98/12 levels we use for leveling pool tables with. This video has helped to calibrate them.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    8 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad it would help someone, thanks for letting me know that you liked, Pierre

  • @djough1
    @djough14 жыл бұрын

    Pierre, I was "learned" about Old 98 levels back when I was knee high to a grasshopper was that you should never slide a machinists level. Always pick it up and place it down where it belongs. Sliding them on stones, Whether granite or slate, is of course abrading them. Old 98's that have been "slid" over and over, over the years end up on eBay and not handed down from masters to an apprentice. The bases become untrue and eventually need to be sent back to Starrett to be properly reground. Just a good habit. Thanks.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    4 жыл бұрын

    For usual day to day use you're right, as for the calibration or anything that relates to metrology on a granite table, you slide your parts in order to eliminate all possible dirt or grit from being caught under, one of the most important step in precise measurements is cleanness, where you keep on wiping your table and parts to be measured, best and most sensitive wiping tool is your clean hand, this is where you feel the most and the smallest grits...

  • @lookcreations
    @lookcreations8 жыл бұрын

    Hi , reached your channel vi Randy Richard, looking forward to looking through your videos. This one is going to be very useful as I calibrate my 250mm hilger watts level and the my granite surface. Lovely clear explanation , thanks.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    8 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed and got something from it... I'll say a big thank you to Randy... ;) Thank you for comment and nice words... Pierre

  • @lsstarretttools
    @lsstarretttools9 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    9 жыл бұрын

    lsstarrett Hi, thanks for visiting and comment, Pierre Beaudry

  • @Achisachis73
    @Achisachis739 жыл бұрын

    nice video, thank you for sharing

  • @charliecarpenter2840
    @charliecarpenter28404 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting this, it was a great help.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    4 жыл бұрын

    Once you done it once, the following times get to be almost automatic..... Thanks for your comment and glad it helped you....

  • @mainesailah
    @mainesailah9 жыл бұрын

    Nice Pierre, I recently acquired 2 starrett 98s and a 15" 0.0005" master that I need to calibrate. Thanks for reminding me to do it.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    9 жыл бұрын

    Peter Owens Hi Peter, like you seen it shouldn't be too bad of a task, the 15" is a little more delicate but pretty easy as well, just let me know how it went....! Thanks for comment, Pierre

  • @RRINTHESHOP
    @RRINTHESHOP9 жыл бұрын

    Nice demo on the levels. It can be very frustrating getting the calibrated at times. Thanks for sharing. Randy

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    9 жыл бұрын

    Randy Richard Hi Randy, the trick is not to start going in the wrong direction and sink deeper. It rarely takes more time than in this video. There is the 12 inches with the wrong vial that I had to conclude that the vial was not lined up correctly in the tube, it doesn't take much...Went shopping again..... Thanks, Pierre

  • @jean-yvesbeguec9944
    @jean-yvesbeguec99446 жыл бұрын

    Thanks very much. Quite complex to understand for me, but it works ! In fact must find two things: a horizontal line, unknown when we begin, and the calibration.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comment and glad it helped, Pierre

  • @dhaynes4515
    @dhaynes45153 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, just acquired a used Starrett 97-8. Now I know how to calibrate it.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped you... 🌈👍 Thanks for taking a moment to leave a comment....

  • @bRad-ns6iy
    @bRad-ns6iy3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the tutorial!

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the comment... 🌈👍

  • @ducatista1098s
    @ducatista1098s2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. So simple, yet I hadn't thought to do this.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have to admit I'v got the idea from another machinist, just like you said, it's quite simple as long as you understand the principle..... 👍

  • @ducatista1098s

    @ducatista1098s

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pierresgarage2687 and so on to another... at least some things are right with the world =)

  • @amleh550
    @amleh5505 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot! I calibrated my Trelle level according to your method. Very accuracy.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    5 жыл бұрын

    Glad you got the task done and thanks for taking the time to leave a comment, Pierre

  • @amleh550

    @amleh550

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pierresgarage2687 just one moment, i want to add. The level is better to put on two identical Gauge blocks along the edges. Then the measurement will be more accurate, and the readings are more stable. Because the surface level can not fit snugly to the base. This will lead to the fact that the measuring base of the level will be of different lengths with a 180-degree turn. Sorry for my English.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't understand what you mean by "two identical", maybe you need to know I'm using a precision granite table to perform the adjustment, the precision of the table exeed the accuracy of the levels. If not, please try explaining again, or possibly a short video...

  • @amleh550

    @amleh550

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pierresgarage2687 Hi! I will try to explain ) I realized that you are using a granite calibration table. But the level surface may not fit snugly against it (until it is proven). Value of division depends on the measurement base (distance between points of contact). Any defect on the surface of the prism or plate will change the measuring base. Putting the level on two identical Gauge blocks, we guarantee the length of the measuring base and the value of division. PS: Here (in Russia) we use "GOST" and "Measurement Technique", which explain this moment in detail. Sorry, I could not find a similar ISO document.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think I'm getting the idea, this is where a bottom testing is in order, if needed a lapping operation may be needed. Your calibration technique is valid in case of a irregular bottom surface of the level, but you have to use the same principle when using the level to measure anything thereafter. I'll try to perform an inking surface measure of the bottom of the level to see how flat it rests on the surface. Those levels are certified to 0.005inch per foot or 0.42mm per meter, that is not very affected by tiny defects on the base, when we get to the more precise levels with 10 times that resolution, much more care need to be taken, then, better pre-calibration testing and repair wuld be needed. Good points you bring into the discussion...!!!

  • @MrMayham
    @MrMayham7 ай бұрын

    @5:10 you gave me a good laugh “you don’t have to tightened this up like you were going to the moon and your life depended on it”

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    7 ай бұрын

    😊😊......

  • @jamiebuckley1769
    @jamiebuckley17699 жыл бұрын

    good video thanks for sharing your knowlage pierre.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    9 жыл бұрын

    Jamie Buckley Hello Jamie, Thanks for comment, any question, feel free to ask.... ;-) Pierre

  • @davidhess6561
    @davidhess6561 Жыл бұрын

    2022 and all still relevant information.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    Жыл бұрын

    We'll always need a calibrated level........ 😉👍

  • @radiationman72
    @radiationman727 жыл бұрын

    Very Good instructions

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    7 жыл бұрын

    Glad if it could help, thanks for comment, Pierre

  • @patrickreddy722
    @patrickreddy7226 жыл бұрын

    thanks this really helped

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hi Partick, Glad you got something to help you, and thank you for taking time to leave a comment, Pierre

  • @bx2200
    @bx22009 жыл бұрын

    Hi Pierre - Thanks for this. Am I correct that the bubble moves when you rotate the level/angle plate because the granite plate itself has not been precisely leveled? In other words, it's possible to use this procedure to calibrate a level, even without access to a perfectly level surface - correct? -Chris

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    9 жыл бұрын

    bx2200 Hi Chris, you're correct, my granite plate isn't perfectly leveled cause I moved it and not performed the leveling yet. You have to find the one and only the one axis that is leveled, like you've seen it's not very difficult, there would be a limit to how a table would be out of level... With a little patience you could get the same results. Thanks for your support, Pierre

  • @CarlosContreras-gk9gp
    @CarlosContreras-gk9gp3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome tutorial

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it and thanks for your comment.... 🙂

  • @joemcglothlin1058
    @joemcglothlin10589 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation! Thank you. I need to do this to my level. I have one like your 12" level.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    9 жыл бұрын

    Hi Joe, procedure works for all sizes, and type... Let me know ho it went....! Thanks for comment, Pierre

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Tony Wilson Thanks for taking a moment to leave a nice comment, I'm located near Montreal, Canada... Pierre

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Tony Wilson For the moment the border is closed with the US, hope it stays that way until things get better on their side.... Over here most places are now open, things with bars aren't always people to exert the most clever beheavior, I'm afraid that we get back even worse than the peak we had. Australia is a huge country with many climates, they only forgot to include cool and cold... lol You make me envious for you're not having snow... Sigh...!!! We could have a couple of beers and spend some time talking about Trump and the numerous WTF moments... I'll spare the channel from expanding on the subject... Cheers, from sunny Canada and quite high temps, 30 C and over for many days now.

  • @mjmonjure
    @mjmonjure8 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Thanks for the video even though I am a little late to viewing it. Can I assume from the calibration procedure, that it is not imperative that the surface upon which the calibration takes place, needs to be level? As long as the calibration results in the level reading the same in either direction? I have an uneven floor and want to create a flat granite table so that despite the uneven floor, the granite table is perfectly level from end to end. I was thinking of getting one of these levels for that purpose. The granite table will be about 3' x 4'.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    8 жыл бұрын

    +mjmonjure No problem about the time you watched this, there is not late time on KZread... ;) Even on a unleveled plane, you'll have one axis that is leveled, this is what I ended up finding at first, and using the angle plate for reference. Once you have calibrated your level, it's easy to make the table leveled afterwards. Also a detail you may want to know, those precision granite tables are meant to rest on 3 points of contact, they are manufactured and calibrated in that manner, they should be also used that way. (The stand is 4 legged but the table itself is resting on 3 points) Thanks for comment, if you need more info just ask... Pierre

  • @markschiavone8003

    @markschiavone8003

    5 жыл бұрын

    mjmonjure I'm a little late to the party and I'm sure you have built and installed your table. In the future may I suggest something that I learned from granite installers? Once you figure out what lengths your table legs should be, make a template of the table out of one by stock. Its easier to dial in wood legs by cutting or adding shims.

  • @duberposcue9687
    @duberposcue96875 жыл бұрын

    que precio tiene ese nivel por alguien que me diga

  • @debasishsahu3082
    @debasishsahu30825 жыл бұрын

    Sir it is very good . Sir why not u make a vedio a series of all manual machine calibration .if possible please do sir.

  • @Achisachis73
    @Achisachis739 жыл бұрын

    so as long as you have the same reading on both opposite orientations, the level is calibrated?

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    9 жыл бұрын

    Achisachis73 At this moment you also have to be on the leveled axis of the table, then, yes you have your level calibrated, the precision depends on the care you bring to get the closest to that leveled axis... Sorry if I'm late getting back, cause KZread notices on comments isn't always constant on noticing me in the Email section... Thanks for the interest, Pierre

  • @serralheriaLCB
    @serralheriaLCB3 ай бұрын

    Obrigado.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    3 ай бұрын

    Bem-vindo... 😉😉

  • @August301989
    @August3019896 жыл бұрын

    Hello how you read a spirit level angle based on the sensitivity of it? Thanks!

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure to understand your question...!

  • @August301989

    @August301989

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sorry i havent elabotared more. My question is 1 deviation is equivalent to how many angle. I have a spirit level of 0.05mm/1mm sensitivity. Then if i want to use it to measure the angle, how would i be able to read it? Or convert the reading to angle. Thanks bro

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    6 жыл бұрын

    I suppose that the real number could be more like .05mm/1000mm (1 meter)??? If so: Sin-1(Angle) = Hyp/opposite Sin-1= .05mm/1000mm Sin-1(.00005) = 0.002864788deg. = 0 deg., 0 minute, 10.3132 sec (per .05mm division from leveled) If my calculation is all right This is a real small angle...

  • @bhaveshpatel294
    @bhaveshpatel2949 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for shared the video.. but i am using same level and the bubble is not spread enough to the first larger division ( which one is third from the center ) is it possible. or it needs calibration ?Please guide me on this Bhavesh

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    9 жыл бұрын

    bhavesh patel Hi Bhavesh, not certain exactly what you mean by " which one is third from the center " is the vial installed off center or is the bubble off center...??? One thing to check is, that if you put the level on any surface, f you turn the level around 180 degrees, the bubble should be exactly in the same position left or right. Regardless of the fact that that table is leveled or not. If this does not help, is it possible for you to make a short video or send pictures, or, even an Email with some drawings? My Email is : wledpierre@gmail.com Pierre

  • @sankarnarayanpadhi7544
    @sankarnarayanpadhi75446 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    6 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome and thank you for taking the time to comment, Pierre

  • @justinkingh8709
    @justinkingh87092 жыл бұрын

    I would like to know how to read the Starrett 98?

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you read Starrett's instructions, it says that if you're one division on either side, you're off level of .005 inch over a foot (0.42mm over a meter), this is valid for all level sizes of the 98 Series levels.

  • @mack255
    @mack2559 жыл бұрын

    I would go crazy doing that. LOL

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    9 жыл бұрын

    Mack McCurry Hi Mack, I'm not the most coordinated person, it's not as bad as it looks... ! Thanks for comment, Pierre

  • @Daminatovideo
    @Daminatovideo3 жыл бұрын

    I do not understand why you keep moving the angle plate while you make adjustments? For example you found perfect spot to adjust from, than you make an adjustment, flip the level around to see how close you are to a perfect reading on each side. Then you move the angle plate away from the calibration axis. Doesn't that make the process more complicated or is there some part of the process I'm missing?

  • @albertmarkasky959
    @albertmarkasky9598 жыл бұрын

    I've been using my Starret level for the past 20 years, leveling pool tables. Yesterday I found the air bubble elongated. Instead of an inch long, it's like 4 inches long and I can't see the ends of the bubble. Why did this happen and whats the solution? Thank you

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Albert Markasky Seems like your vial just lost some liquid, you might need to replace it, Starrett makes replacement available... Let me know how it goes. Thanks for viewing, Pierre

  • @albertmarkasky959

    @albertmarkasky959

    8 жыл бұрын

    +pierre beaudry , yes, I agree but I don't know how to disassemble and what is the liquid in the vial? Do you have Starret's pn\hone #? Thanks for your help Pierre. Al

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    8 жыл бұрын

    Albert Markasky You won't be able to refill the vial, there to my knowledge 2 vial sizes, you can look it up on their site, they have a part list along with the level description. Like the 12 inches or the 6 inches are 2 different size vials, try those links if it fits the ones you have... www.starrett.com/metrology/product-detail/98-12 www.starrett.com/metrology/product-detail/98-6

  • @CleaveMountaineering

    @CleaveMountaineering

    3 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of my second day on the job as a mason laborer... they asked me to go get the level bubble fluid. I didn't fall for it. But sounds like you actually need some (well, a new vial).

  • @ScottandTera
    @ScottandTera6 жыл бұрын

    Just found this video and it helped me adjust the level. Tera has a starrett 98 . i dont have a surface plate si i had to use my counter byt i marked the counter so i could put the level back in the same spot when i spun it around. I would call that grossly adjusted . what do you do if the bubble does not fill up thw space between the main lines/

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hi Scott, even a surface plate isn't perfectly leveled on all axis, so you need to find the leveled axis, then work from there... Doesn't matter if the bubble isn't filling fetweens the lines, as long as it's evenly spaced on each sides. With this method you should be able to get the level very accurately calibrated, just needs a litle care and patience. Cheers to you and Tera, Pierre

  • @ScottandTera

    @ScottandTera

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pierre's Garage thanks for responding

  • @Kevin-ib4gv
    @Kevin-ib4gv Жыл бұрын

    Your surface does not have to be exactly level but it helps to be as level as possible. Take a sheet of paper and tape it down so it dosen"t move. Place your level diagonally across if you have the 12" or straight across if a smaller level. Take a pen and outline the ends of the level. Look at how far off the mark the level is, turn the level 180" around and line up the ends with the lines on the paper. Repeat the process until you have the exact same difference between marks on the vial. Your level is now perfectly calibrated. "Stoning" a surface to get the surface perfectly level is a complete waste of time and has nothing to do with calibration of a level. Turn the level 180" end to end, adjust for the same difference on vial marks, and your level is perfectly calibrated even if your surface is not level.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    Жыл бұрын

    My granite stone is close to leveled, since it's resting on a domestic garage floating concrete floor with the four seasons it may move out level with time, if I need to align anything I'll need to find the leveled vector each time just like I demonstrated. The precision cast iron angle is there exactly for the purpose to rest as the reference for that day's operations.

  • @Kevin-ib4gv

    @Kevin-ib4gv

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pierresgarage2687 And that's fine but totally not necessary and more work than it has to be. Try the paper routine as I described. Also, if my Starrett shows 1 line off, it only takes one sheet of paper to bring it level. You were trying to level to 0 when you were 1/4 off the line. Nearly impossible to do. Also, the heat of your hand if you touch the vial throws everything off. Try it, you'll be surprised at how much it changes the bubble.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kevin-ib4gv I'll try your method, in the video I demonstrated one way to find the leveled plane even with a misaligned unit. But in reality I also own a 199 series Master Precision level, it makes quick task of finding the leveled axis when required.

  • @supersawyer358

    @supersawyer358

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@Kevin-ib4gv that's what I do. My mind burst Into flames trying to understand all this level plane stuff.

  • @Daminatovideo
    @Daminatovideo4 жыл бұрын

    conceptually it took me too waaay long to figure out that all it has to do is have the same reading on both sides to be considered calibrated. I kept thinking it had to show perfect level on both sides to be considered calibrated. I was on a flat but unlevel surface thinking I could make the bubble center but now I realize its impossible. In this vid i think he needed to lock in X & Y axis because his flat surface had some high spots if he was a few mm difference when rotating. I guess it barely matters.

  • @sidneymar9458
    @sidneymar9458 Жыл бұрын

    Buenos días soy de México y me gustaría saber cómo nivelar con un starrett 98 de 12" como se lee la parte graduada? A cuanto equivale cada línea y como saber cuánto subir o bajar una pieza a nivelar? O mejor dicho, como sería la fórmula para nivelar un rotor de turbina? No hablo inglés ni se escribirlo pero lo puedo traducir, si podrían ayudarme les agradesco mucho

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, The series 98 levels from Starrett are able of a resolution of 0.005 inch per foot ( 0.42 meter ) per division on the vial. This means that when you are off by one division on the vial, there is a 0.005 inch out of level over a foot, if your plane is 2 feet, you'll be one end at 0 level and after 2 feet the point will be 0.010 inch lower or higher depending the direction the bubble is pointing at. So, if you raise or lower that point by 0.010 inch you'll be levelled. With this, all trigonometry formulas will be relevant in order to calculate the corrections to be made. Meaning Sin, Tan, Cosine, Pythagore, etc.... Hope this helps you, if not just let me know what else you may need to know. Pierre

  • @sidneymar9458

    @sidneymar9458

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pierresgarage2687 gracias

  • @edgarrodarte7550
    @edgarrodarte75504 жыл бұрын

    Hi .....it's very important your información .....You should to put subtitule in spanish sir .... thanks

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for viewing and for your comment... It's possible for KZread viewers to submit a translation for the videos, my channel allows it.

  • @chsubramanyam
    @chsubramanyam8 жыл бұрын

    one division is how much mm

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    8 жыл бұрын

    Each division is: .005" for one foot .42mm per meter Thanks for watching, Pierre

  • @chsubramanyam

    @chsubramanyam

    8 жыл бұрын

    please provide your e mail.id

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    8 жыл бұрын

    wledpierre@gmail.com

  • @gilbertpd80
    @gilbertpd804 жыл бұрын

    How do you read a 98 degree level

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not sure of what you ask, but if it's to know how much out of level you are, each division equals 0.005" ( 0.42mm ) out of level per 12 inches ( 30.48cm ), if not just let me know...

  • @gilbertpd80

    @gilbertpd80

    4 жыл бұрын

    Everyone is counting the graduation when something is out of level. I'm having a hard time gasping on how to count and read the graduation

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gilbertpd80 Let's say we got a fairly calibrated level, when the bubble is perfectly centred between the longer lines, you're levelled, if on the other hand you measure another surface and your bubble is one full division away from center, then, you're 0.005" out of level over one foot distance, no mater the length of the level, the direction of the high side is depending on what side the bubble is sitting, you can figure this out by just hand playing the level and see what side it goes. If you're more than one line off in the same direction as before then you add another 0.005", if you reach 2 full lines then, the total deviation over that foot is now 0.010", and so on, if you on;y get partial distance between the lines you will approximate in a linear fashion.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe another detail, on those types of levels you can quantify the results cause those levels are calibrated and that each line is given a precise value, not valid for just normal uncalibrated level available for cheap. Let me know if I addressed your concerns... 🙂

  • @JO3haNsum
    @JO3haNsum2 жыл бұрын

    So the earth is not flat?

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depends on what you need to prove, or, who you're dealing with... 😱😂🙊🙈🙉

  • @johnwoodworth248
    @johnwoodworth2485 жыл бұрын

    I did not realize that Jean-Claude Van Damme was a machinist LOL

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    5 жыл бұрын

    All you see is a pair of hands, where is Jean-Claude...??? ;) Swear it's not me... lol

  • @johnwoodworth248

    @johnwoodworth248

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pierre's Garage lol , The accent give it away ! , i’m thinking you either from northern Ontario or eastern Quebec hmm ? Close ? I’m originally from New Brunswick

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's actually near Montreal, about 30 minutes drive South-East, was never able to get rid of the accent. The accent from New Brunswick is a real give away, in most cases when traveling across different regions of mostly Quebec and Canada accents are a good indication of the origin of the person. Kinda we all got our own flavor of Jean-Claude, even if he's from France, where they all have another set of flavors... ;)

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    5 жыл бұрын

    Left New Brunswick long ago and for where...???

  • @juancarlossoto2228
    @juancarlossoto22288 жыл бұрын

    im from México city can you speak in spanish please ...tankyou

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Juan Carlos Soto Unfortunately I only know a few words in Spanish, hope that you'll be able to keep up with English and the image... My main language is French. Thanks for comment, Pierre

  • @juancarlossoto2228

    @juancarlossoto2228

    8 жыл бұрын

    +pierre beaudry hi thankyuo.. if you can to put subtítle in spanish i work for Cemex México and is very important your información by muy people thanyou ....by...

  • @mierzymypl
    @mierzymypl8 жыл бұрын

    VIS Made in Poland :)

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Marek Pudło Thanks for watching... ;)

  • @Tome4kkkk

    @Tome4kkkk

    6 жыл бұрын

    Exotic ;)

  • @Tome4kkkk

    @Tome4kkkk

    4 жыл бұрын

    @JPS JPS Thanks for sharing Iguess 🙂

  • @cpgrules
    @cpgrules3 жыл бұрын

    the bubble is not supposed to move when you rotate the level. You are doing a calibration poorly due to an unleveled surface plate. Use a master precision level and level that rock before doing any calibration of levels. Once you do that, now flipping the level in either direction....the bubble will not move. Adjust the screw to move the bubble dead center

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you follow well, this video shows how to find the laveled axis on a surface that isn't perfectly leveled on all axis, this can be done even without using a reference and calibrated level. Once you get that axis you can calibrate that uncalibrated level and even tweek your reference surface and get a perfectly leveled tool and referenc surface starting from all uncalibrated tools....

  • @deeremeyer1749
    @deeremeyer17495 жыл бұрын

    So what's it like to be the long, lost twin brother of "This Old Tony"? Same "knowledge". Same "voice". Different "accent".

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    5 жыл бұрын

    Guess that now with all tha praise, the subscribers will rush at my door.... LOL Now got to work on the accent, see if it works... ;)

  • @chrisbaca374
    @chrisbaca3743 жыл бұрын

    This is not calibrating. This is only leveling the level. To calibrate you use a sine plate or sine bar.

  • @gilbertodiazcastro8871
    @gilbertodiazcastro88716 жыл бұрын

    Sorry but that level is NOT calibrated. From the start of the video you can see the cross bubble is past the line opposite the angle block then when you spin it the bubble does not go past the line. This means that the parallelism between the glass vial and the foot of the lever has been lost. That level needs to be either checked for burrs and if none are found sent in for re-grinding.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    6 жыл бұрын

    It is.....!!!! What ever you say or perceived, that level is on the leveled axis of the table and is perfectly adjusted, even compared to a unit 10 times more sensitive, maybe, watch again the video until you undrestand... ;)

  • @gilbertodiazcastro8871

    @gilbertodiazcastro8871

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pierre's Garage let’s agree on disagreeing. Go back and look at the video at time stamp 0:20 and 0:45 and look closely at the alignment of the bubble in reference to lines, if it was truly burr free and parallel the bubble would go past the line the same distance. Good day.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    6 жыл бұрын

    You sure have the right to disagree, my estimation is that by looking into the viewfinder of the camera, since the resolution isn't that of looking directly at the tool, then, it introduces some paralax errors, but, I stick with the level being right, I've just looked at it a few minutes before this comment and it's quite right since that time it got adjusted...

  • @garycasteel9390
    @garycasteel93909 жыл бұрын

    You really move it around alot without marking your positions to locate your reference points theres no possible way you got a true reading with all that movement. Get a marker and make a few lines along your edges and it will give you more consistency. If I seen you calibrate this way I would make you redo any work you had done previously..Sorry not trying to put you on blast but I have no idea why you would think this was truly functional

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    9 жыл бұрын

    Gary Casteel Hello Garry, Maybe you'll notice that instead of using a Sharpie, I marked my position by using a angle plate to repeat my found leveled position and lining up the level to that plate to correct the vial, I did not show on video but the level's surface was lapped a few times on very fine grit sand paper using the surface plate as reference. The tissues I use are in fact the industrial Kimwipes, those tissues produce very minimal lint, compared to toilet paper that produces too much lint to be used in any precision environment... ;-) The procedure was done on my 1000 pounds 36" x 36" x 6" precision granite table taken off level to show that the correct procedure can be made successfully even on a non leveled surface. As far as stoning is concerned, I will use a precise fine diamond lapping stone, and, only if needed. By experience I can assure you that his method is giving me accurate results, you can even read a comment from Starrett lower in the comments... Thanks for taking some details to my attention and for commenting, Pierre

  • @williepelzer384
    @williepelzer3842 жыл бұрын

    Hope you don't charge by the hour.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hope you don't require more than an hour of service... 😁😁

  • @MetrologyEngineer
    @MetrologyEngineer6 жыл бұрын

    My wife left me for a bigger level...

  • @naranvadher8776
    @naranvadher87765 жыл бұрын

    Buble is not show property you watch the video

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    5 жыл бұрын

    Possible that there is a little paralax error, when filming the camera is often in the way, so I don't get a perfec angle. Just keep in mind that the principle for calibration is correct when performed in good conditions...

  • @williamcolaci8625
    @williamcolaci862511 ай бұрын

    This Starrett very poor... I buy it in italy and have a very poor system to calibrate it... Is never precise.. If you test different time, for different time give wrong meausure because is not stable the plate or so... Other problem is that the plate twisted a little

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    10 ай бұрын

    Unless the level is defective or have problems, this model of level is quite reliable and precise, as far as I'm concerned I always had great experience with those. By the way I own at least four or five of thi model in various length. To get reliable results you absolutely need to use a precision surface plate as leveled as posssible, once you found the leveled axis like in the video you'll be able to obtain reliable results.

  • @machobunny1
    @machobunny13 жыл бұрын

    I think if I watched this 10 times, I still would not understand how he got the surface plate level to serve as a reference. IF you know you have a perfectly level reference surface, the rest is child's play that is poorly explained here. If you do not have a perfectly level reference, I do not think you can calibrate the level. Maybe someone else out there has a video that makes sense.

  • @eric500k2

    @eric500k2

    3 жыл бұрын

    You didn’t get it. If your plate slopes, there is still an axis on it which is level. You have to find that one and use that as a reference.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good deduction, and it's even possible to find this leveled axis with an out of alingment level as demonstrated in the video.....

  • @bramhagyani5018
    @bramhagyani50184 жыл бұрын

    Too much time to calibrate, it should be done within minute.

  • @pierresgarage2687

    @pierresgarage2687

    4 жыл бұрын

    It takes time to explain the how's and why's, once you understand and are set-up, it takes much less time... Making that video took me about an extra 10 hours, hoping someone would understand the process and perform the procedure rapidly... Thanks for your comment...

  • @fredthomas1746
    @fredthomas17463 жыл бұрын

    too much talk.

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