Supercross and motocross are going to be so exciting when 40 of those launch of the gate.

Bike looks really fun. Thank you soo much for the review!

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

Yes a unique and different off road riding experience. I will have a lot more time on a demo bike and post up more riding reviews hopefully starting in a couple of weeks.

@mxoudi

11 ай бұрын

@@mxengineer1 demo bike? Meaning not the real one?

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

@@mxoudi No the demo will be a current production unit from Varg so a "real" Varg!

Can't wait for mine in October!

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

Mine is also due in October too! Originally November '22.

Biggest problem I can see for off-road riding is range and changing. The OWR enduro last weekend was just over 100mi. Hopefully the battery technology improves over the next few years.

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

Yes battery energy density is about 185Wh/kg and that is the limiting factor for dirt bikes...need more energy density to get the range up for longer rides away from your truck or charger! If you can live with about 2~3 hours ride time (depending on power/hills/rider weight/etc) the electric Varg can offer a unique off road riding experience

I shelled out the $13k for mine about 3 weeks ago when I got the ready for production notice....crickets since then. Getting anxious.

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

Dang! So what was the ETA of your Varg? How long before that ETA did Varg contact you for final full payment? I think the latest ETA for my Varg order is 10/31/23 so I am curious when to expect the final payment is due notice.

@cruisesuski1280

11 ай бұрын

@@mxengineer1 my ETA has said 8/31 for a long time now. The email came saying my varg was ready for production. I paid immediately hoping it might scoot me to the front. That was 3 weeks ago. The email indicated that it would be ready to ship in “a few weeks” and that they would contact me to finalize shipping and delivery details when the time comes. They haven’t done anything wrong, and still on track for timing as far as I know…I’m just so tired of waiting haha.

Looks like a 19” rear tire version? Looks and sounds awesome!

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

Yes this Varg has the 19" rear wheel.

great review, thanks for sharing this one, most people will not even see one for another couple years let alone ride one. Very curious how insane the full 80 hp would feel on a dirt bike!!! Not that I need it!!!

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! I hope to try the 80 hp setting soon!

@daneg

11 ай бұрын

I saw in an ebike enthusiast review that the 80ph is supposedly the most energy efficient setting. I guess b/c you don't have to wind the motor as much? but I cannot imagine running 80hp on the trail. I almost killed myself trying to race a CR 500 on a motocross track. not exactly apples to apples but oye! I wouldn't trust myself in tight trails with 80hp and instant (no curve) delivery. 😅

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

@@daneg Yes there are different efficiencies for a given motor running at various power levels - not sure about the Varg motor. The Varg electric motor does make a lot of torque instantly so very responsive!

Sounds like a big ol heavy THUD every time you landed!

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

Yes! Coming up a little short and with no engine/exhaust noise it is very easy to hear other things like the rear tire clawing for traction and the suspension thud when landing from jumps. The KYB suspension felt impressive though - absorbing and controlled

@daneg

11 ай бұрын

I've been watching as many of these Varg videos as possible, and that fact stands out every time. you hear EVERYTHING. stuff that your engine noise/vibration mask that happen a dozen times every lap now sticks out like a fire alarm. so surreal. it must feel like you're abusing your bike. I imagine myself looking down to find what piece of the bike just fell off every other landing.

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

@@daneg You are spot on! The stealth factor on electric dirt bikes is such unique experience. Here is my 1500 mile review of my KTM Freeride EXC....just the sounds of the woods and hearing the sounds of the bike...very fun! kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3ej19h-l6bZiZs.html

Do you reckon it's easier or harder to ride on medium to tight-ish mid west single track than a modern 250/300 2 stroke ? Having a hard time imagining a 260lb bike stopping / turning & doing it for a couple house with wearing one down substantially more than if on a 250/300. What say you ?

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

I've done a lot of back to back rides with my KTM Freeride EXC back to back with my 300 2-strokes and 350 4-strokes. Consider the Freeride EXC has street legal trials tires (the front one with 1500 miles use), only 9" of trail riding setting suspension, 24 hp and 31 ft-lbs of torque and weighs 245 lbs....and was able to match the lap times of my 23 TX300 and 21 KR350...all (3) bikes within 0.1 secs lap time....I think a Varg with full on knobbies and better brakes and more power could be faster? Electric is just throttle and brakes and if you have a left hand brake you can focus your feet on loading and weight the bike. I think electric might be an interesting option in the woods - range will be the biggest issue...recent gas vs electric back to back. kzread.info/dash/bejne/daum2qh_k5DKj8o.html

So you're going to go ride a closed loop in the woods for 2hr. 350, 300, or Varg? What's your pick?

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

Hopefully I can answer that question in a few weeks when I get to ride a Varg on my usual trails back to back with my TX300 and 350XCF! For now it is a toss up between the TX300 and Varg....with the Varg maybe having a slight edge

Hmmm if it’s not making you giggly with excitement …makes me kind of doubt the hype. I’d still be curious to see lap time comparisons.

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

I owned an Alta EXR a few years ago and still regularly ride a KTM Freeride E-XC so electric is familiar to me. I should have some fun back to back rides on track and in the woods with the Varg and ICE bikes soon....maybe some more excitement then!

How’s it compare to the Yamaha 450 you know I was gonna ask that question haha !? What’s funner

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

Totally different experience! Should be doing some fun moto and woods back to back rides with the Varg and ICE bikes soon!

@adamrochester1

11 ай бұрын

@@mxengineer1 been watching and listening to people and they have said it is great. I still haven’t paid for my Yamaha yet my friends been away holiday and it’s at his house. But been curious about the stark and don’t wanna regret if I buy the new yz instead of the vark. Haha

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

The Stark is such a different ride experience. The lack of inertia gives the Varg almost 125 like turning agility. Yet there is 263 lbs of motorcycle beneath you so there is a sense of mass. No clutch, no shifting, no heat, no vibration, little noise, and almost no maintenance...think about a bike that can have 80hp or dialed back to 10 hp to introduce your friends to motorcycle riding or putting around the neighborhood or sneaking around in the woods....that is what the Varg is about. @@adamrochester1

@adamrochester1

11 ай бұрын

@@mxengineer1 the neighbourhood riding and skate parks defiantly would be cool !! And doing what ever you like it’s a win win. How’s the ergos for taller people ? Nothing tall bars and risers and low pegs can’t fix true

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

@@adamrochester1 Best thing I can say about the ergos is I did not notice them - that is a good thing. Did not feel too tall, too short, cramped, too big....honestly felt natural and nothing(!!) stood out and that is code for good!

Seems like it’s gonna be hard to judge jump speeds with no gears or engine rpm for reference.

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

Yes it takes some time to adjust to a few things about electric powertrains and judging jump speed is one of them! Typically a few laps and things feels a lot more natural.

Thanks for the ear rape at the start but good vid bud

@mxengineer1

11 ай бұрын

Sorry! I was very excited to finally get a chance to ride a Varg!