Stargate Atlantis - McKay Almost Ascends (3-14)
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From The Episode "Tao Of Rodney"
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Description From IMDB - When Rodney uses an Ancient device, he gets special powers, but soon Dr Weir discovers it's a double-handled gift: if he doesn't ascend, he'll die.
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the answer just came to him while floating in a darkness. sounds like an ancient was like "oh fuck, not him. Save him. Heres how, just...dont ascend."
@spitefirespartangaming
3 жыл бұрын
I would have been like OH FUCK NOT HIM as well lol mckay is the best character in the show though.
@cma1676
3 жыл бұрын
Anything to prevent "I am the smartest being in two planes of existence, so listen..."
@JnEricsonx
3 жыл бұрын
It'd be like, "Nope, we don't need Daniel Jackson 2.0 WITH a galactic ego."
@jjayguy23
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@AzguardMike
Жыл бұрын
MorganLaFey: Not him. He blew up 7/8ths of a solar system!
Good ol' MacKay. I bet just for this, the Ancients broke their non-interfere-rule, just because they found him to annoying to ascend.
@nickrykert2572
Жыл бұрын
😂 totally agree!
@CardSearcher911
Ай бұрын
If you really think about it, it's worth it in the long run. There's a very high chance McKay would break the no-interference rule within a few minutes.
Stargate A.K.A. How a group of scientiffically advanced beings fuck over 2 galaxies, and then gain godhood, only to say "Fuck it we wont fix our shit, let the idiots left behind do it"
@indiajohnson4163
6 жыл бұрын
Grega Meglic That's basically what they did, they ascend & believe themselves to be higher beings & superior intellects but won't clean up their own shitty mistakes. I'm laughing at the superior intellects. 😄💩
@derianvandalsen
2 жыл бұрын
Fixing the galaxies required some less sophisticated ways of thinking. Something they were no longer able to. They may have left their mess in the right hands.
@Rushinator1
2 жыл бұрын
It’s explained by the introduction of the ORI aka the Ancients greatest enemy from their original home world. Not only would the ancients using their power in mass (like wiping out the wraiths) alert the ORI but it would also make the Ancients just like the Ori (aka acting like Gods). Not to mention when you have a society where everybody is basically immortal your viewpoint changes as thousands of years is a blink of an eye for you and as a result political change comes extremely slowly if ever. The Ancients were already nice enough to hide the Milky Way galaxy from the ORI to prevent their invasion until SG-1 screwed that up and revealed it’s existence.
@GregaMeglic
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rushinator1 Yea but the Ori themselves are the ancients. Just the religious radicals of the ancients. So yea the Ancients are kinda at fault for the Ori to, not just the replicators and Anubis ^^;
Ronon the only one to give him a hug....this must be an alternate universe
@JnEricsonx
5 жыл бұрын
Considering in the same episode Rodney healed his scars out of kindness....
@JojoooJK
5 жыл бұрын
I think Ronon wanted Rodney to stop talking
@craigarthur7599
4 жыл бұрын
Nah Ronin loved Rodney like an awkward little brother.
@StarFinderWebb
3 жыл бұрын
@@JojoooJK no legit ronin had alot of respect for him. Bot to mention when they first met and he was a runner Rodney and becket shot a wraith woth the jumper saving his life. Not only that because of those two again they got the tracker out (mostly becket) and now the scar healing. Rodney has done more for him then most of the others so really???? Best buddys
@Thescott16
3 жыл бұрын
I always viewed Ronon and McKay's relationship as opposite personality siblings... With Ronon as the long-suffering older brother and McKay as the special needs younger brother.
mckay: DIES also mckay: I REFUSE
Random theory, What if the ancients noticed him about to ascend and asked themselves if they really wanted to put up with a superhuman ascended Mckay. He does say 3:30 That an impossible answer came out of nowhere. I get the feeling that was a favor from the ancients who wanna help humans and waited until contact could be made with him on their .03 hertz wavelength. "HE" Went into their world, No reason they can't tell him how to GTFO!
@Brakiros
6 жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense if he had reached their world and touched their level of consciousnesses, all it would have taken is for one of them to reach in and push him in the right direction. They wouldn't have been breaking any of their rules either
@rayconn666
5 жыл бұрын
Lol true
@Dachande81
5 жыл бұрын
No, i dont think thats right. Acsending isnt for those already there to decide who can or can't, Its only to make those who are ready ascend,to do it. I base this on Daniel Jacksons time when he finds out Anubis was ther already. If they could choose who would be accepted,, I dont think Anubis would be even close to that place
@ShrekWallBee
5 жыл бұрын
see "Anubis' Ascension Explained at 3:24" "RULE ONE NO LONE ASENDED BEING SHALL HELP A LOWER ASEND lowers include humans and such (sorry asguard i guess that does not include you) if you deserve to be here then you should be able to get here on your own"-asended anubus. so in theory if Dc Mkay had managed to asend on his own then other asended beings would have no chose but to exsept him into there ranks unless there was a very good reson why he should not be alowed to asend.
@livinlicious
5 жыл бұрын
@@ShrekWallBee They didnt kick him out. They might just gave him access to the solution. HE WANTED THE SOLUTION, he got his solution, told Carsen, got the fuck out before his body died. Rodney said he doesnt want to ascend, its just a means to an end. He only tried to ascend so that he can retake human form without instead of dying and game over. This hypothesis here makes a lot of sense actually.
McKay: Ascends Ancients: Nope.
@Rocksteady72a
4 жыл бұрын
Ancients were like "Take him back! We're good ✋🤚"
@goggleheroomegamaple820
4 жыл бұрын
@Trip Gil they made an exception
@victorselve8349
4 жыл бұрын
@Trip Gil Well technically (assuming of course that the ancient intervention hypothesis is true), the moment he started to ascend they could have legally interfered, you don't have to be fully ascended to be considered not mortal (see Anubis).
@davidblakley6806
3 жыл бұрын
y'all remember santa form the christmas story "ho ho ho" -boot to the face-
I was totally expecting after he was saved and went on an epic rant he just ascends mid sentence and his clothes drop to the floor, then reappears butt naked with amnesia the next second.
@shootybaking
5 жыл бұрын
That would have been a better ending.
@mrmrsgamer6938
4 жыл бұрын
@@shootybaking as if the ancients rejected him immediately lol
McKay: Yeah, I'm ascending. Ascended Lanteans: Hell, no. Just don't. **If Sheppard were to ascend** All ascended Lantean women in the Local Group: Hell yeah.
@shayla106
Жыл бұрын
No
Imagine if you're standing there and all your friends and family are starting to glow as they start to ascend but you look at your own body and realise that you're not glowing like they are. The panic sets in as you see everyone else ascend and leave whilst you are left behind, confused as to what you revelation you missed and everyone else got lol
@TangomanX2008
8 ай бұрын
I kind of felt like back in the late 90s when, instead of working in tech and web development I was working on my philosophy degree.
I feel like one of the ancients was like "nah we can't let this guy in. Someone tell him how to not die."
Mckay: looks like I’m ascending Ancients: Don’t you bring yo a$$ here, turn right back around NEEOOOOWWWW👀👀👀
Daniel: There can be only one ascended in SG team!
@BlackDiamond2718
4 жыл бұрын
Sheppard had it there for the taking.
So McKay almost ascends in episode 3.14. Pi is transcendental. Nice.
When Ronan says I have no idea what any of you are talking about, that is me at school when a teacher or my friends talk about something that I don’t understand.
Man people really like to hate on my boy Rodney, oh well, us Rodney fans love him.
@TheDandyMann
Жыл бұрын
I loathed Rodney in SG1 honestly, but he grew to be one of my favorites in this series because of his character growth. I think it was because in sg1 he was more of an outsider being an independent contractor and with Atlantis he became part of a family by being a team player. He needed people to be with that loved and respected him, kept him level headed, and humble.
@Flippy_Nips
Жыл бұрын
I dont know anyone who hates Rodney.
I ever think that Humans would have give this machine to the Asgard to help them into ascending, as sign of friendship
@nufikol
3 жыл бұрын
I think they could not Ascend, they were too dfar gone genetically.
@MegaParrotMan
3 жыл бұрын
Well the humans couldn’t either, that’s what the machines were for, but I suppose it was at least made for the human species since they were almost identical to the ancients.
@FedoReds88
3 жыл бұрын
@@MegaParrotMan well, i think the Asgard can modify that to fit for them
@millsenberry
2 жыл бұрын
@@FedoReds88 Thor said clearly that they had lost the ability to ascend
@777associate
8 ай бұрын
@@MegaParrotManthe Asgard could not ascend because they were clones they did not have souls anymore which was necessary the humans could and did ascend this is the reason replicators couldn’t ascend in the Asgard original form pre cloning they could of ascended
As stated by Anubis the ascended Ancients and Others can't help a lesser ascend. Ain't nothing in the rules about "Here's how you DON'T Ascend. Thank you for choosing not to annoy/spend time with us."
Imagine if he ascended, the ego of the man would have been huge!
@rollochairbreaker230
4 жыл бұрын
Even the ori couldn't have stood against his own self worship.
@michaelesposito2629
3 жыл бұрын
Would have been? WOULD have been huge?
@TheCaptainCrack
3 жыл бұрын
I think the only part of him that couldnt ascend any more (because maximum size reached) was his ego xD
@ejandrews3065
3 жыл бұрын
If he ascended wouldn't his ego die
@Joshua-ew6ks
3 жыл бұрын
@@ejandrews3065 Not according to the Ori. They ego so big they demand worship.
The one time The Others in that diner spoke up and interfered. “Somebody please tell this man how to get better so he doesn’t come here!”
It is hard to determine if he would interfere or not. Not that he does not care about his friends but he knows the rules and he loves the power and ego boost of having the full knowledge of the ancients. I love the concept of ascension because it is like the Buddhist philosophy of enlightenment and it provides an idea of what it means to be a god.
@BlackDiamond2718
2 жыл бұрын
@Johnstable12 ye it is so overused that people confuse its meaning
I don't think I can ever unhear that for some reason John Shepard is always stage whispering.... seriously he sounds like he's trying to whisper
I think him not ascending was more a head-off by the writers. There were already a lot of parallels between Atlantis and SG-1, so to have one of the main cast members as end like Daniel did (dying because of alien tech, and ascending rather than just being killed off), I think people would have started crying out about how the two shows were becoming too similar.
I feel I may have missed this episode... I didnt think I had missed any... REWATCH TIME!
The way I see it, while it's true that most of the people who used the device died without ascending most of those were people who had already tried to ascend and failed. There was a lot of selection bias involved in those numbers while Mckay was a clean slate.
@InfernosReaper
4 жыл бұрын
And then the ancients were like "nope! you're staying down there! Here's the way to save yourself! Now get the hell out! We're not ready for you to be our problem yet"
@victorselve8349
4 жыл бұрын
Partially yes although the main problem the device tries to address is a lack of physical ascention comparability which is not necessarily indicative of a mental incompatibility so the bias is not that big.
@Dubanx
4 жыл бұрын
@@victorselve8349 It was the ancients that were trying, though. We know they were already advanced enough to ascend because a lot of them already had by the age of Atlantis. It was the spiritual side of ascension that was holding them back.
@victorselve8349
4 жыл бұрын
@@Dubanx If *all* of them were physically advanced enough why create and use a machine that advances you exclusively physically?
@Dubanx
4 жыл бұрын
@@victorselve8349 I mean, they used the machine knowing they were more likely to die than ascend. The fact that most of them failed is a testament to the fact that being advanced alone isn't enough to ascend. Clearly they were desperate.
Nice how he almost ascends, just as 3.14 is a nice approximation of pi.
Dr. Weir asked what the chances were it would make Rodney more pleasant. Ironically it actually did.
I still can't believe they cancelled this show. And there hasn't been anything good on TV ever since.
@danielharvison7510
Жыл бұрын
Oof, not far wrong. After Stargate wore out its welcome and Atlantis got really good (and cancelled) there was never anything quite like them ever again. The world has kinda sucked ever since.
@wickywills
Жыл бұрын
Agree. TV today is just pure trash.
I love this episode
What I don't understand is how out of all kooky-ass inventions in the place this was the one they didn't need to assemble or deliberately turn on.
4:07 Rodney: "That was weird"
It would have been interesting to see how the rest of the season played out if McKay did ascend and leave the show for a season.
@jackoniell9468
7 жыл бұрын
Although I am very glad he didn't because the show would not have been the same without him.
@ziiofswe
7 жыл бұрын
What do you mean "without", I bet he'd still be around, more annoying than ever. "I know exactly how to fix it but I'm not allowed to tell you!"
@Thatslifebro_
7 жыл бұрын
Ascension would only drive McKay insane. Beeing able to fix and do everything and not allowed to show off or brag about it? Not his Style.
@ziiofswe
7 жыл бұрын
True, I guess. But he has surprised us before....
@joschuaknuppe5849
7 жыл бұрын
Well, question is how exactly the Ancients in this galaxy handle this.
shit son, I'd totally forgotten Jason momoa was on a stargate show
@sentival
3 жыл бұрын
more than that. he is on stargate atlantis
Aww Ronon...
This bit a little sad and I cry
Ancients: "Oh no you dont, we let Daniel Jackson ascend and look how that turned out"
Never ages....
Carson cares for his patients!💌🕳
Nothing would have kept me from that machine if I were in Atlantis. I so want to ascend.
@BlackDiamond2718
4 жыл бұрын
If I had at least Daniel or Oma then it would be enough. It is all about the destination, not the journey. Sometimes it's the other way around.
@1:11 "Land of sky blue waters... Rumpelstiltskin... Candied yams, candied yams... Triplex theater... Moto racing."
Fancy the 3.14 :D
Aquaman before his time
@johnj3027
6 жыл бұрын
Ronon ascended to Aquaman status.
@christopherg2347
5 жыл бұрын
Ronon Dex - future king of Atlantis.
@r8p6
5 жыл бұрын
@@tommyboman7735 not so awkward now, is he? The movie is awesome!
@FedoReds88
4 жыл бұрын
And still of Atlantis we speak
I don't understand a word any of you are saying, HUGS!
@epiendless1128
6 жыл бұрын
plus _very_ painful-sounding back slap! (Clearly dubbed in sound effect.)
Ancients interference to keep him out lol
Oma did say "only the pure of heart can ascend"
@farscape1714
5 жыл бұрын
Outside of Anubis of course
@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer
5 жыл бұрын
@@farscape1714 Anubis tricked Oma into helping him ascend
@farscape1714
5 жыл бұрын
@@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer but he didnt have pure of heart.
@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer
5 жыл бұрын
@@farscape1714 you can bypass having a pure heart if a ascended being helps you, Anubis tricked Oma into helping him ascend, she was then severely punished by the others for centuries because she broke their one rule "never intervene with the lower races"
@redomer91
5 жыл бұрын
I think that is a lie to force people into giving up their vices.
1:49 John Shepperd ASMR
Can't help but wonder - all those actors and actresses thinking they're doing so well because they're either the leads or whatnot and wondering how far their career will go and no one gave Jason Mamoa a second look imo as the one who would become Khal Drogo and Aquaman and be 10x their combined earnings and be the most successful. Of all Stargate crew in both shows, Jason Mamoa was the only one who tasted ridiculous success. Pretty shocking imo
@damien4197
Жыл бұрын
Richard Dean Anderson has a net worth of $30M, Jason M[o]moa is $25M. Yeah, he has a lot more potential left, I would agree... but "only one who tasted ridiculous success?", ah, no.
Likely the Comet channel but some has been cut out.
Lieutenant Reginald Barclay(of the UF Starfleet) once became quite possibly the most advanced Human in their present day twenty-fourth century era. The writers of Atlantis must've got the idea for "The Tao of Rodney" from Star Trek: TNG episode "The Nth Degree".
I pity the Ancients. Rodney'll drive them all bonkers! Them poor misbegotten fellows!
A. I think the Ancients would've kicked him out if he had reached that state. B. It sure would've been convenient if he had completed, you know, anything or at least had given others explanations or left some notes that would be decipherable by normal people. One huge thing, how to make ZPM's. Or, at least the starting grounds where it takes the season or into the next one and then it's difficult to do, but still possible?
@kilvesx7924
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Ancient technology is so advanced and complicated humans just can't understand it anyway. It's maybe possible to teach a monkey to build an axe with a stone and a stick, but he will never know how to put those stones and sticks to make a steel mill.
@SpidermanandJeny
Жыл бұрын
@@kilvesx7924 well that's why I said that part about explanations. I don't think the ancients were so far past humans by the end of the show that humans couldn't understand anything. Granted, I think plenty of things would be outside of humanities understanding for the time being, but I think plenty of other things would be understandable with some explanation and I would think the ancients would be very much so able to explain things.
Aww... Losing ascension... Solid reason to retry.
@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer
5 жыл бұрын
Except he cannot do anything that'll help them without the others intervening, so in a way it'll be a waste
@ilusion_9
5 жыл бұрын
he can try that device again and again and solve the zpms problems. he can avoid ascension, he can avoid the ascended beings. he made a jumper open a hyperspace window, he can do many things. that device is stupid in all ways and makes a plothole in the story.
@unintentionallydramatic
5 жыл бұрын
@@ilusion_9 Except it's about as reliable as the Ancient Repository. Worse, arguably. Next time he might just disintegrate and staying near-Ascension is NOTORIOUSLY difficult on a _good_ day.
Here's what I would have liked to see. Remember Oberoth and the Asurans? Basically they were like the ancient Atlanteans, only they were actually replicators. They used all the Atlantean technology and could even make their own ZPM's. Very important allies if you could manage that. The Asurans were upset because the Atlaneans ascended and left them behind. They wanted to ascend too, but were unable. Tell the Asurans that there is an ascension machine and one of the Earth people nearly ascended. Then tell them that you'd like to try to get some Asurans to ascend. Maybe start with 10 volunteers and a couple of observers. If it worked at all, the Asurans would be overjoyed. And maybe they'd be willing to share some of their awesome tech and ZPM production facilities with the Earthers.
@jamesurban3148
2 жыл бұрын
roll credits
Zelenka: Where my hug?
That 2 slaps!!
Daniel: I did it Rodney couldnt you handle it??
@lordwinton
4 жыл бұрын
I forgot. Twice lol
@shayla106
3 жыл бұрын
Rodney didn’t want to ascend
Give it 30 mins the ancients would send him back
@JnEricsonx
3 жыл бұрын
Seconds. 30 SECONDS.
Jokes aside, the Ancients wouldn't actually have sent him back. The rules are already ascended beings helping mortals to ascend. McKay accidentally came across the Lantean machine, i.e mortal technology, and reached the mental state by himself. I don't remember how the rules worked with Merlin but I think he theoretically could have ascended then de-ascended with all/most of his knowledge intact.
Ancients: Another human wants to ascend from earth...NOPE NOPE remember that last time??? nope...
Sooo... why don't they all just use the device to advance for however long you get before going downhill the fix themselves and repeat the process?
Would have been awesome if McKay did Ascend and then an hour later the Others kick him out of their club in disgust.
They didn't want him
One thing I don't understand about SG1 and Atlantis, is how ascension isn't as big a deal as it would reasonably be. Basically, this is life after death with really strong anecdotal and scientific evidence. I don't see how the people who were aware of this didn't put at least some effort at ascending themselves. I mean, if a good friend died, ascended, visited me while on an elevator, and really helped me out on a project, I would have developed some interest in ascending myself to avoid dying myself.
@nihilityjoey
7 ай бұрын
Because at their stage? It's way beyond them.
@CedricBassman
2 ай бұрын
@@nihilityjoey It's not beyond them seeing as Daniel Jackson was able to ascend without any upgrades to his physiology. On the other hand, why would someone try to ascend? To ascend you have to remove every negative thought and your own ego, among other things. And what do you get in return? You exist as a near godlike being with so many rules and restrictions that you cannot interfere with the living in *any* way. You also can't do much else. You basically gain the Knowledge of the Universe and are forbidden from doing anything with it. You just sit on your ass for all eternity, being a observer at best. Just look how incredibly frustrated Daniel Jackson got with being ascended, so much so that he got kicked out twice! And all he wanted to do was fix the mess other ascended created, a mess that threatened a entire Galaxy.
What if he went up in flames and #descended
If an arrogant person like Rodney can ascend, anyone can.
@redomer91
5 жыл бұрын
I mean the ancients were pretty fucking arrogant.
@Othorius
5 жыл бұрын
@@pwnmeisterage I both hated and loved the Ori just those flashbacks of hail the orisi
McKay is Canada❤
Why didn’t they use a blood sample to stop the evolution process in the later stages where he retained the super human intelligence
@Elydir
4 жыл бұрын
Well, you can't do that. They don't "stop" the evolution, they revert (or rather overwrite) his current DNA with the one he had before he used the device. If you mean why didn't they use blood samples from when he was evolving already... Well, from what I understand, the device rigged his body to evolve forward until it reaches ascension. If you used samples from after the device was used, you would effectively just be rolling him back to a point, but he would still keep evolving. I suppose in theory, you could do regular therapies to keep rolling him back (eg. roll him back to 70% ascension, wait to 80%, roll him back to 70% and just keep repeating that every couple days).
Just ask yourself if YOU were ascended would you really want to have Rodney join you for eternity and have to listen to the constant blabber?
Too bad McKay sister was not there too.
why didnt they just use that device to make super smart people and change them back?
Lol no she says you couldn't. Because we got a note that said if you did the ancients would wipe out humanity
Do you think it was episode 3-14 on purpose?
@harrisonfnord5871
4 жыл бұрын
Pi is everything. Everything is pi.
3-14 :D like π :)
Tori Higginsen, the hottest character on these series..... ! Major crush.......!
@ThePSNinjas
5 жыл бұрын
You do realise Jason Momoa is in this right? I aint gay but damn hes hot
@Othorius
5 жыл бұрын
@@ThePSNinjas LMFAO 'tis true though
In reality no one would choose to de-assent unless u a actor who needs to be human to continue working in SGA. They could have written a more plausible way for him to remain human
@TangomanX2008
5 жыл бұрын
You also need to know the secret handshake.
@shayla106
3 жыл бұрын
Umm no. Rodney is one of the smartest people equal to Carter. They need him on Atlantis and he knows this. And you may find this crazy to believe but he actually loves his friends and he does have a big ego. He likes others to see how smart he is.
@TheNeilBlack
3 жыл бұрын
@@shayla106 Also Daniel chose to de-ascend, so there's precedent.
one humans will be able to do this again
0.03hz🎉
Did this show run out of stories??! 🤨 McKay, really?!
maybe it's just the fangirl in me but does anyone else ship Rodney and Ronon together?
@freetobe3
7 жыл бұрын
Never thought of them that way, not even Sheppard and Ronon despite them being very much a like. Beckett and Mckay yeah, Sheppard and Mckay yeah, Beckett and Ronon would be interesting.
@TheNightcorelover420
6 жыл бұрын
ummmm NO!!!! ................. Ronon and teal'c now that is one sexy power couple !!!!
@unintentionallydramatic
5 жыл бұрын
That's just nasty. It's like shipping Carter and Peter Kavanagh. If you need to ship Beckett & McKay or something.
This episode is fact Jackson is better than McKay
@user-ex2hj5gw1v
5 жыл бұрын
Jackson ascended with help of Oma, he had choice between being ascended or dead, McKay had a chance to ascend with help of technology, he could have been ascended but he also had a choice to come back to normal life. These cases dont proove any of them being better than the other one
@Othorius
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-ex2hj5gw1v They might've meant character wise
@user-ex2hj5gw1v
5 жыл бұрын
@@Othorius with pointing at THIS episode?
@Othorius
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-ex2hj5gw1v Still could be how McKay was to his team vs how Daniel was.
@user-ex2hj5gw1v
5 жыл бұрын
@@Othorius and what is the differrence you and that guy are pointing at without telling anything exact
Ah McKay, you're a major pain in the ass, but we love ya anyhow.