StarCraft 2: Has' AMAZING Eco Cheese vs ByuN! (Best-of-3)

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Best-of-3 series of StarCraft 2 between Has (Protoss) and ByuN (Terran). In this series Has decides to do Has things, as he focuses on an insane Protoss economy, going toe to toe versus ByuN in macro games. I guess we can call this economy cheese?
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  • @helmutalexanderrubiowilson6835
    @helmutalexanderrubiowilson6835 Жыл бұрын

    Has the mad Sc2 scientist... Has playing early agression= cheese.. Has playing macro= macro cheese xD

  • @cappachino20

    @cappachino20

    Жыл бұрын

    You could call it.... Mac n' cheese 😎

  • @jindrichjochec296
    @jindrichjochec296 Жыл бұрын

    Lowko randomly backing up the game is becoming a nice tradition now. XD OOoOps, I tried opening the battle report again...

  • @ZDarabos

    @ZDarabos

    Жыл бұрын

    We get more content, no complain here. :D

  • @bertpettersson6042

    @bertpettersson6042

    Жыл бұрын

    New feature for our Lowko-bingo. Yay!

  • @BackyardFilms2
    @BackyardFilms2 Жыл бұрын

    The theory behind no wall at all as toss vs terran is this. A normal wall at one of the ramps only hurts toss because terran has no melee units but toss does. As for the reaper jump location, it is mixed but the argument against is that ends up where the core gets placed which makes it vulnerable to being sniped

  • @DrakeyC
    @DrakeyC Жыл бұрын

    36:30 - Yes, that IS the lore-accurate answer, actually. To copy from the campaign description for the Orbital Depot update (not the supply depot hat, but the upgrade to construct them instantly): "We can now call down supply depots straight from orbit due to our new understanding of protoss architecture. Key point joints have been added to the supply depot's structure, allowing the supply depot to survive the violent turbulence of breaking through an atmosphere. Now an SCV simply has to place a beacon, and the crew on the Hyperion will handle the rest."

  • @matiashamalainen4574
    @matiashamalainen4574 Жыл бұрын

    Supply depots are "extra" minerals because MULEs only deplete mineral fields faster. You can also have your SCV mine the whole time instead of building if you use them.

  • @Mr.Faoustay
    @Mr.Faoustay Жыл бұрын

    I know Has is not the best SC2 player. But he plays the game exactly the way he wants, and he just has fun with it. I wouldn't change a thing.

  • @magnusbjarni

    @magnusbjarni

    Жыл бұрын

    Has is the type of guy that goes to the casino, says what he has at the poker table and goes all in. And somehow wins half the time. He's IMO the most fun player in SC2, cause he doesn't give a f-ck what the other guys are really doing, he just wants to see if his alternative strats work, cause they're fun as hell

  • @jonnmostovoy2406

    @jonnmostovoy2406

    7 ай бұрын

    @@magnusbjarni agreed! Go Has!

  • @phantomsea8987
    @phantomsea8987 Жыл бұрын

    Has is just a a wild card in my opinion, very much looking forward in all his games

  • @chasefleetfang9542
    @chasefleetfang9542 Жыл бұрын

    Lowko procrastinating on changing the hotkeys for pulling up the Battle Report and ending up rewinding the replay is lowkey kinda hilarious tbh xD

  • @Runsofourlives
    @Runsofourlives Жыл бұрын

    Lowko your casts are so entertaining I have trouble staying engaged viewing other casters replays. Looking forward to more exciting action in 2023

  • @kriegscommissarmccraw4205
    @kriegscommissarmccraw4205 Жыл бұрын

    Winter has an excellent explanation of why reaper walls are a bad idea. Byun also exploits reaperwalls constantly.

  • @nahruz.w3044

    @nahruz.w3044

    Жыл бұрын

    link, source

  • @Vevvev8

    @Vevvev8

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nahruz.w3044 Don't know where it is, but essentially what he does is he baits out colossi, and then drops into the main base. The colossus can't go up the wall and has to walk around there by cutting off part of the Protoss army.

  • @lordlard2833
    @lordlard2833 Жыл бұрын

    Did anyone else notice at 5:44 the zealot killed the widow mine that uncloaked to fire before it died to that very mine?

  • @saranteravatin1641
    @saranteravatin1641 Жыл бұрын

    This guy is legend made Always jaw drop people From dark maru to serrel and Raynor Has was always my favorite mad man

  • @liveinamber1307
    @liveinamber1307 Жыл бұрын

    Hello and welcome back to learning with Lowko! Here are the facts: -Zealots can also do a roll by (although it's not as elegant as the banelings) -Mules and supply depos are dropped from orbit thanks to Amazon.

  • @fayman5717
    @fayman5717 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing match, it was quite entertaining. I just love macro cheese as it is a risky strategy for early game especially if you are trying to be as efficient as you can but if you survive long enough you can quickly turn the tide and overwhelm your opponent. This volatility is why it is so fun to watch and Byun is really good in prodding its weaknesses which has kept me on the edge of my seat wondering whether Has is gonna flip it.

  • @elvin_771
    @elvin_771 Жыл бұрын

    time to add this cheese to the ladder

  • @jacobsvensson8193
    @jacobsvensson8193 Жыл бұрын

    That 2nd game was def one of the highlights on DH Atlanta imo... I remember twitch chat laughing their ass off when he went for that charge rush into 2x forge after how the first game went...

  • @GhostT696
    @GhostT696 Жыл бұрын

    The Hyperion could be fighting the other races' capital ships, so he would be busy fighting as well

  • @elvin_771
    @elvin_771 Жыл бұрын

    FINALLY ANOTHER HAS VIDEO!!

  • @squirrelgray945
    @squirrelgray945 Жыл бұрын

    The Jugglier is like the Joker but has a thing for veins and arteries ;)

  • @AwoudeX
    @AwoudeX Жыл бұрын

    i heard: 'very quick toilet council' xD

  • @John__-ie3od
    @John__-ie3od Жыл бұрын

    Has expanding like he's using Zerg.

  • @Damaged7
    @Damaged7 Жыл бұрын

    Aww man I miss the Shield Battery Immortal Juggle.

  • @aikiseppuku
    @aikiseppuku Жыл бұрын

    Dont do math in a video, the numbers at 25:00 added up perfectly :D

  • @The_Chaosburger
    @The_Chaosburger Жыл бұрын

    Lowko: I don't like the placement of these structures. OK, I'm gonna shut up about it. Lowko two minutes later: Wouldn't it have been nice if this had been blocked off..OK I'm gonna shut up about it. Lowko two minutes later: Ya know, if he hadn't lost those workers...OK I'm gonna shut up about it.

  • @BigBossMar10
    @BigBossMar10 Жыл бұрын

    Has had me yelling for an observer the first 2 games. He was getting wrecked by those widow mines.

  • @Midnight2630
    @Midnight2630 Жыл бұрын

    The extra supply fly from the Orbital CC to the space and fall like a missile in the deposit.

  • @PZMKSD
    @PZMKSD Жыл бұрын

    I’m waiting for the new hearthstone Exp to drop today! Long StarCraft games are my savior!!

  • @almasabey8340
    @almasabey8340 Жыл бұрын

    Lowko I dont know these numbers but does it cost more in build time and pulling the scv to build the depo than the mule makes? If so that poses a theory towards build order cause it's more efficient in the early game

  • @christopherfunakoshi1272
    @christopherfunakoshi1272 Жыл бұрын

    can someone drop the time for when all the Zelots are there?

  • @Michael-vo3tk
    @Michael-vo3tk Жыл бұрын

    Has gotta tighten up the game, but the second half of game 2 was just amazing

  • @YoungbloodEric

    @YoungbloodEric

    Жыл бұрын

    yeh theres just too many small mistakes that are really hurting him. Even the second game there were so many miss rallies and none probe movement, and sadly as much as i love disruptors, has killed sooooo many of his own units with them for some reason.

  • @PotatoMussab
    @PotatoMussab Жыл бұрын

    You are turning me into a ByuN fanboy and I welcome it

  • @vivelempereur8246
    @vivelempereur8246 Жыл бұрын

    hello mister lowko :P may you make a video on how effektive drone stacking/ annoying probes with a probes splitting drones etc is in wol with 6 probes i can remember it made a 2-3 second difference for a 6 pool id like to hear your answer xD

  • @JoADomingo
    @JoADomingo Жыл бұрын

    I think mules come from the same ship the first CC came from haha it probably is still in orbit but maybe just a transport or something not the hyperion

  • @rodrigosinastre7203
    @rodrigosinastre7203 Жыл бұрын

    21:00, essa sonda deveria ser demitida por justa causa kkkkkk

  • @artemirrlazaris7406
    @artemirrlazaris7406 Жыл бұрын

    Oracle/ observor.. photoncannon... oracles two of them are great for utility detection like a mini terran scan ,but if it hits you have longer vision, plus it onyl generates value and can do many great things... Observor has great observation and can be deployed so its like a static system. I htink 2 phoenixes should be a minumum, its really good to ahve utlity units, becasue they are so handy... IE phoenix can lift a siege tank... fro mthe back while you run forward delaying or keeping medivacs away... with their 5+ bonus damage.. so ... its also times two. so they do liek 20 damage to a medivac on a 150 life pol... so 4 phoenixes cna wipe out terran drops really quickly... DT as edge spies for stopping early expansion since most humasn have hte same pattern of moving out, yo ucna sit on spying on expansions... better use of teh hold key, meh.

  • @kittyflier8338
    @kittyflier8338 Жыл бұрын

    Saw this on the Harstem's channel.

  • @Panda-cp9cs
    @Panda-cp9cs Жыл бұрын

    lowko has there been anything else about soo? i liked his past games since his return they were entertaining

  • @EsportsStoryteller
    @EsportsStoryteller Жыл бұрын

    Has playing anything at all = cheese basically :D

  • @Ash-fz1sm
    @Ash-fz1sm Жыл бұрын

    When playing how do you see what your opponent is building (pre structure completion) or what upgrades their units have? 17:43 for reference.

  • @kaosce

    @kaosce

    Жыл бұрын

    You click on them

  • @ivanangeli
    @ivanangeli Жыл бұрын

    @Lowko: There is that tournament when BuyN raised to fame as he won, using reapers - can you tell me what was it, so I can google it and watch from start (hopefully the narators will be equally suprised with his play:) I would love to see that tournament, all of his games, from first to finale. Thanks

  • @hyperbolicowl6123
    @hyperbolicowl6123 Жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah!

  • @LostMekkaSoft
    @LostMekkaSoft Жыл бұрын

    i am VERY far from being a pro player, but i have a theory for the supply depot hat: a mule mines 200 minerals, but it still mines them, so they are not free, because you mine out faster. a supply drop however is totally free. it creates the value of 100 minerals out of thin air. and the lost mining time of an scv building a supply depot may also contribute to the decision. at 21sec build time plus a bit of walking time you lose maybe 20 or 25 minerals of mining. so every depot hat gives you two more marines in the ultra lategame when the map is mined out. maybe trading off some growth acceleration for long term sustainability is worth it sometimes? 🤔

  • @Nozdormu1982
    @Nozdormu1982 Жыл бұрын

    When Byun almost has had it.

  • @MetalMan1245
    @MetalMan1245 Жыл бұрын

    Love Has, love ByuN, where's the Florencio games???

  • @petrutpaul
    @petrutpaul Жыл бұрын

    "Once more, excelent control here by B By Ba Be ... b ... by ByuN" - minute 22:06

  • @adrianbyg5553
    @adrianbyg5553 Жыл бұрын

    You can't ever be hungry in starcraft whit so many cheese

  • @CMF412
    @CMF412 Жыл бұрын

    Not knowing about has, and being an idiot about punctuations, I thought this vids title was saying that the game was weighted against Byun.

  • @imaguy7070
    @imaguy7070 Жыл бұрын

    The Protoss Crazy players went from Has, to Zest, to hero, to ShowTime, And MAYBE just, MAYbe back to HAS

  • @thelonemadlad
    @thelonemadlad Жыл бұрын

    Was this a reupload or something? KZread has a red bar saying I already watched it and it’s only been up for two hours? And I just woke up?

  • @TheRogal87
    @TheRogal87 Жыл бұрын

    Wohooooo!

  • @TritonTv69420
    @TritonTv69420 Жыл бұрын

    25:07 i will give you a pass here. Its jugular not JUGLIER hahaha. Its ok since english isn't your first language. I will still stay subbed. 😉😉😎😎

  • @CubeItself
    @CubeItself Жыл бұрын

    i think the big oof is that Has is going for big eco and forges but no photon cannons in the mineral lines at least :p

  • @hivetech4903

    @hivetech4903

    Жыл бұрын

    Which would make him a Gold leaguer and lose very fast against someone like Byun lol. The build did work, but Has' map awareness and timings are pretty bad compared to top Protoss players.

  • @CubeItself

    @CubeItself

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hivetech4903 i wont judge his awareness or timings based off a single game, i feel like its too nitpicky; after all this is the only cast i've seen him do this build

  • @tilmanvogel2387
    @tilmanvogel2387 Жыл бұрын

    Title: Has' AMAZING cheese Commentary: Yeah, not actually that refined -.-

  • @yamilabugattas3895
    @yamilabugattas3895 Жыл бұрын

    I think HAS has some really nice ideas, but the execution looks a bit shaky.

  • @dominicdo2719
    @dominicdo2719 Жыл бұрын

    I see Has I insta click and like cuz I know I'm gonna have a good time

  • @CK-ys3tu
    @CK-ys3tu Жыл бұрын

    Sorry Lowko… these games were Byunbelivable

  • @HalcyonStarlight
    @HalcyonStarlight Жыл бұрын

    Lowkow, please... It's pronounced Jug You Ler. You're welcome.

  • @spoken_truth2501
    @spoken_truth2501 Жыл бұрын

    Has plays SC2=cheese

  • @russellinator
    @russellinator Жыл бұрын

    Cheese = most overused, misused word in SC2.

  • @ryanprettyman758
    @ryanprettyman758 Жыл бұрын

    Idea: Lowko should answer fan submitted questions during a long Sc2 cast.

  • @Kirk.television
    @Kirk.television Жыл бұрын

    Let's go

  • @hopchikichiki6431
    @hopchikichiki6431 Жыл бұрын

    Could someone tell me please ! What does “cheese” mean?!

  • @paulenevoldsen841

    @paulenevoldsen841

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheese is any unusual strategy that depends on surprising the opponent to gain an advantage

  • @thomaschevrierlaliberte5884
    @thomaschevrierlaliberte5884 Жыл бұрын

    I hope Taiwan never goes to war. If it does, I hope they never name Has a general. If they do, I hope he doesn't order every soldier to run towards the enemy like those zealots...

  • @StrigWilson
    @StrigWilson Жыл бұрын

    Jeeze man, ads every 2 minutes is a bit absurd :x

  • @sc2youtube744
    @sc2youtube744 Жыл бұрын

    I love has. I will always click if has

  • @Panda-cp9cs
    @Panda-cp9cs Жыл бұрын

    has not using an observer offensively makes no sense to me

  • @Panda-cp9cs

    @Panda-cp9cs

    Жыл бұрын

    the early game one

  • @Mstrskeletor89
    @Mstrskeletor89 Жыл бұрын

    Has' nick name should now be "macro-n-cheese"

  • @Solairz
    @Solairz Жыл бұрын

    yeeyee

  • @silvestreneto9508
    @silvestreneto9508 Жыл бұрын

    Bro I love protoss, but why they aways loses?

  • @Mstrskeletor89

    @Mstrskeletor89

    Жыл бұрын

    They dont always lose we've seen quite a few solid protoss wins

  • @silvestreneto9508

    @silvestreneto9508

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mstrskeletor89 But I mean, they lose more

  • @hivetech4903

    @hivetech4903

    Жыл бұрын

    @@silvestreneto9508 You're wrong - if you look on aligulac you'll see Protoss is currently the strongest race at tournament level.

  • @hivetech4903
    @hivetech4903 Жыл бұрын

    Meh... Byun games always look the same to me. Its hard calling him a macro Terran - I guess he always does macro openers so its true in that sense, but his 3rd is always late, Armory is ALWAYS late and reluctant as he tries to micro his opponent to death lol.

  • @frankwhite2072
    @frankwhite2072 Жыл бұрын

    If you could recast the first game, but root for byun instead, that would be eye opening.

  • @byeemobileguardian7612
    @byeemobileguardian7612 Жыл бұрын

    Second

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