Mechabellum is a fun game and pretty deep too. It’s like autochess StarCraft. Good for people who don’t have insane micro.
@soldier2288120 күн бұрын
good to know the broodwar vets are still playing, nice to see ricky remembers the old days of broodwar. yeah there are some things not translated over from broodwar to sc2 due to differences in engines.
@DecisivelyVague219 күн бұрын
When I was playing broad war growing up, shield batteries were not used like we use them in SC2 and you might be wasting time/money dropping them in bases like we do in SC2. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but my memory serves that they were more of an option sometimes as opposed to a default thing we made. Because vision was so busted as well, we played cannon a lot more heavily than folks do in SC2. They’re no good vs tanks or top air units, but the vision/ anti cheese and effectiveness vs standard ground units was pretty useful. Also we played carrier constantly. Lastly I wish the old archon animation was placed back in. It was sick. And it looks like you’ll be sticking with Protoss - but I think in your Terran game you underutilized the bunker which were crucial for surviving vs what he threw at you. Pretty much everyone massed tanks and dropped at least a bunker in front of their natural / next expansion. The SCVs are tanky and fix the bunkers quickly. And siege tank is unmatched for the price and supply hit that they cost.
@markototev20 күн бұрын
I prefer SC2 overall but BW had the better voice lines, especially for Protoss.
@christopherjohnson2171
20 күн бұрын
I loved the voice acting for the Protoss in the story of SC1 as well. When Tassadar gives Kerrigan a smackdown is one of my favorite parts of the campaign.
@anima94
20 күн бұрын
BW Protoss sounds evil and SC2 Protoss sounds like the heroes
@grandroyal66
20 күн бұрын
"Explorer reporting" Coolest ball in Starcraft History
@MrDgf97
20 күн бұрын
Zealots and Carriers sound so fucking badass it's awesome
@fumirokugen57620 күн бұрын
DT 2 hits a 60 hp SCV and got call 'ball' is just mood.
@pablovirus20 күн бұрын
love this content ❤
@christopherjohnson217120 күн бұрын
Dark Archon Maelstrom is really just good against Zerg since all of their units are Biological. Unlike Stasis/Lockdown you can damage them while stunned. In this improved engine with Harstem's micro I'm sure he could do som SICK maelstrom+psionic storm combos against Zerg. They set up your Reaver shots nicely too.
@WonderingWanderer8820 күн бұрын
@Harstem, maybe keep in mind that spider minds only trigger against all walking units, but not hovering ones. Meaning, also invisible units, but no workers, nor vultures themselves, neither any type of Archons. Also, Dark Archons can easily steal an SCV and you can then start (if it was worth the effort) your own Terran tech tree... or just repair your mech units.
@AntonRellik112320 күн бұрын
This is so fun to watch is like a punch of nostalgia , btw Arbiters the mini mothership u can build multiple of those and stasis is broken, also storm does 125 damage. Dark archons are mostly better against zerg since they are all bio.
@soldier2288120 күн бұрын
beautiful green
@HeavyTorch19 күн бұрын
If I'm not mistaken: You know that all overlords are detectors and once you research drop all overlords receive it?
@grandroyal6620 күн бұрын
How can you guys not know every unit in Broodwar? It's your father Luke :)
@skyweapon20 күн бұрын
broodwar workers would collect 8 minerals per trip. That could be why they are so fast. to make up for the difference?
@roarmalf20 күн бұрын
Dark Archon is not it, Arbiter > Stasis just wins games.
@christopherjohnson2171
20 күн бұрын
Arbiter is tanky enough to always hit its spells too, I love it. HTs are very strong in this mod as well but they're still crazy slow and vulnerable. Against Zerg I have tried to Maelstrom into Psi Storm but it requries fast micro.
@zheta4220 күн бұрын
In SC1, Vultures could only deploy 3 spider mines each. Can these drop more?
@chloesmith4065
20 күн бұрын
No, it's still just 3 each. The coop/campaign versions can rebuild spider mines but not these ones
@disconnect720 күн бұрын
Dear Harstem, where my Mechabellum part of the stream?
@sevyusevs200820 күн бұрын
In PvT. Its mostly only Dragoons/Zealot vs Tanks/Vulture. Tanks will win mostly, but your only job is to separate them so they dont take splash damage. Terran is the most destructive race. The mines are OP , but if you drag them to the tanks , you might win. As much as possible PvT keep one base above the terran. Late game, youre pretty screwed. I thnk the only think u can do is, throw dragoons at ur opponents base by arbiters.
@WonderingWanderer8820 күн бұрын
33:25 ghosts don't have EMP in bw... it'd be the Science Facility, right? I guess feedback still works vs Dark Archons
@DecisivelyVague2
19 күн бұрын
Yup science vessel was emp
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd20 күн бұрын
artosis complains a lot about speed shuttles with reavers.
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd20 күн бұрын
If you are against Artosis, Do nexus first cross-spawn.
@Big-E-TheBouncer18 күн бұрын
Its not Sc1 vs Sc2 if neither of you pick Sc2.
@icarocost20 күн бұрын
Where can I find this mod to play?
@enriquegarciacota3914
20 күн бұрын
Custom / Melee / choose a map / play with mod / look for SC Evo.
@maksymokolot464814 күн бұрын
I legit do not understand the "can only balance around 3 races" argument. There literally is a LOTR RTS with 6 races and it's absolutely fine, and the meta is not shifting constantly (not every 1-2 months at least). Edit: Wc3 literally has 4 races, what are you even on about
@andrewcasey-wagemaker426
12 күн бұрын
The problem usually isn't meta shifting, it's that one 1 or 2 races end up very powerful borderline too powerful and 1 or 2 can get left behind. This usually isn't a big deal at lower levels but at higher levels this can get abused pretty hard and it can end up that a certain matchup is just super unfair for 1 race. I don't think 3 is the limit at all though, there is definitely a way to balance around many more. Usually you need to make to races less unique but lots of polish and hard work can fix those problems. In the end though even games with very similar races like age of empires 2 which has 20 years of mostly constant balance fixes has some oppressive civ matchups. Also I remember the games you are talking about, it's battle for middle earth 1 and 2 and while they are both really fun it's also pretty unbalanced especially the first game. When Half the races in the game open with the exact same buildings and units every time it says something.
@47StormShadow20 күн бұрын
There is no such thing as "standard play" in this mod. Think outside the box! There are creative solutions for every problem and previous metas will not help much
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Mechabellum is a fun game and pretty deep too. It’s like autochess StarCraft. Good for people who don’t have insane micro.
good to know the broodwar vets are still playing, nice to see ricky remembers the old days of broodwar. yeah there are some things not translated over from broodwar to sc2 due to differences in engines.
When I was playing broad war growing up, shield batteries were not used like we use them in SC2 and you might be wasting time/money dropping them in bases like we do in SC2. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but my memory serves that they were more of an option sometimes as opposed to a default thing we made. Because vision was so busted as well, we played cannon a lot more heavily than folks do in SC2. They’re no good vs tanks or top air units, but the vision/ anti cheese and effectiveness vs standard ground units was pretty useful. Also we played carrier constantly. Lastly I wish the old archon animation was placed back in. It was sick. And it looks like you’ll be sticking with Protoss - but I think in your Terran game you underutilized the bunker which were crucial for surviving vs what he threw at you. Pretty much everyone massed tanks and dropped at least a bunker in front of their natural / next expansion. The SCVs are tanky and fix the bunkers quickly. And siege tank is unmatched for the price and supply hit that they cost.
I prefer SC2 overall but BW had the better voice lines, especially for Protoss.
@christopherjohnson2171
20 күн бұрын
I loved the voice acting for the Protoss in the story of SC1 as well. When Tassadar gives Kerrigan a smackdown is one of my favorite parts of the campaign.
@anima94
20 күн бұрын
BW Protoss sounds evil and SC2 Protoss sounds like the heroes
@grandroyal66
20 күн бұрын
"Explorer reporting" Coolest ball in Starcraft History
@MrDgf97
20 күн бұрын
Zealots and Carriers sound so fucking badass it's awesome
DT 2 hits a 60 hp SCV and got call 'ball' is just mood.
love this content ❤
Dark Archon Maelstrom is really just good against Zerg since all of their units are Biological. Unlike Stasis/Lockdown you can damage them while stunned. In this improved engine with Harstem's micro I'm sure he could do som SICK maelstrom+psionic storm combos against Zerg. They set up your Reaver shots nicely too.
@Harstem, maybe keep in mind that spider minds only trigger against all walking units, but not hovering ones. Meaning, also invisible units, but no workers, nor vultures themselves, neither any type of Archons. Also, Dark Archons can easily steal an SCV and you can then start (if it was worth the effort) your own Terran tech tree... or just repair your mech units.
This is so fun to watch is like a punch of nostalgia , btw Arbiters the mini mothership u can build multiple of those and stasis is broken, also storm does 125 damage. Dark archons are mostly better against zerg since they are all bio.
beautiful green
If I'm not mistaken: You know that all overlords are detectors and once you research drop all overlords receive it?
How can you guys not know every unit in Broodwar? It's your father Luke :)
broodwar workers would collect 8 minerals per trip. That could be why they are so fast. to make up for the difference?
Dark Archon is not it, Arbiter > Stasis just wins games.
@christopherjohnson2171
20 күн бұрын
Arbiter is tanky enough to always hit its spells too, I love it. HTs are very strong in this mod as well but they're still crazy slow and vulnerable. Against Zerg I have tried to Maelstrom into Psi Storm but it requries fast micro.
In SC1, Vultures could only deploy 3 spider mines each. Can these drop more?
@chloesmith4065
20 күн бұрын
No, it's still just 3 each. The coop/campaign versions can rebuild spider mines but not these ones
Dear Harstem, where my Mechabellum part of the stream?
In PvT. Its mostly only Dragoons/Zealot vs Tanks/Vulture. Tanks will win mostly, but your only job is to separate them so they dont take splash damage. Terran is the most destructive race. The mines are OP , but if you drag them to the tanks , you might win. As much as possible PvT keep one base above the terran. Late game, youre pretty screwed. I thnk the only think u can do is, throw dragoons at ur opponents base by arbiters.
33:25 ghosts don't have EMP in bw... it'd be the Science Facility, right? I guess feedback still works vs Dark Archons
@DecisivelyVague2
19 күн бұрын
Yup science vessel was emp
artosis complains a lot about speed shuttles with reavers.
If you are against Artosis, Do nexus first cross-spawn.
Its not Sc1 vs Sc2 if neither of you pick Sc2.
Where can I find this mod to play?
@enriquegarciacota3914
20 күн бұрын
Custom / Melee / choose a map / play with mod / look for SC Evo.
I legit do not understand the "can only balance around 3 races" argument. There literally is a LOTR RTS with 6 races and it's absolutely fine, and the meta is not shifting constantly (not every 1-2 months at least). Edit: Wc3 literally has 4 races, what are you even on about
@andrewcasey-wagemaker426
12 күн бұрын
The problem usually isn't meta shifting, it's that one 1 or 2 races end up very powerful borderline too powerful and 1 or 2 can get left behind. This usually isn't a big deal at lower levels but at higher levels this can get abused pretty hard and it can end up that a certain matchup is just super unfair for 1 race. I don't think 3 is the limit at all though, there is definitely a way to balance around many more. Usually you need to make to races less unique but lots of polish and hard work can fix those problems. In the end though even games with very similar races like age of empires 2 which has 20 years of mostly constant balance fixes has some oppressive civ matchups. Also I remember the games you are talking about, it's battle for middle earth 1 and 2 and while they are both really fun it's also pretty unbalanced especially the first game. When Half the races in the game open with the exact same buildings and units every time it says something.
There is no such thing as "standard play" in this mod. Think outside the box! There are creative solutions for every problem and previous metas will not help much
51:00 You won?