Take it from us modders: just because *we* can do it, doesn't mean contract devs with a limited budget, deadlines to meet, approval processes to go through and other games to work on can too. Keep your expectations realistic, kids.

Steam workshop would be awesome. Aspyr gave KOTOR 2 workshop support so there's some hope for it atleast.

An increase in the memory limit would be very kind of them.

Very reasonable video. Talked about things realistically, pointed out most of the big, easy-to-fix issues, gave us a good update on what your plans are.

Bro these click bait "battlefront" youtubers you mention are so annoying! They just regurgitate misinformation like fact, thank you for calling them out. I was going to do a similar video but you hit the nail on a lot.

Dude, thank you so much for this! It feels like I've been tossed and turned between blind fanboys and ravenous haters for this re-release when it comes to news, and this provides a ton of clarification on the matter. Definitely hope to see BFIII Legacy for this collection!

"Im still waiting for Fab to get off his ass and do something" This should be the tagline for BF3L lmao

If the unused content like the red clone commander is in a complete state I would enjoy seeing it added

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

I know some people do, as well as some unused camo variants of rebels - but Aspyr is limited to stay reflective of the original releases, and this is - while a cool detail; a noticeable change.

@valentinchappa6702

4 ай бұрын

I still want that cut content that is functionally complete.

a fix for the deathstar death bug were every death for rebels and republic counts as two

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Knew I forgot something

@s9yadvent

4 ай бұрын

I always thought that wasn't a bug but intended since its the Deathstar

@wobba4436

4 ай бұрын

@@s9yadvent it forces republic and rebel players to tryhard to much

@TheBenjaman

4 ай бұрын

I never even realized this was a thing. And playing clones on death star with elite difficulty bots was one of my favorite things, played that all the time.

@wobba4436

4 ай бұрын

@@TheBenjaman your that good

No 4 player split-screen from xbox port of the game?? Its weard to think it wouldnt be possible

actually you can say online galactic conquest could be done trough remote play with a friend but thats kinda it

about requests something new can be added in updates i mean i hope multiplayer servers will be less laggy so we can play normal also we don't need dlcs we have moddb for that also one request i have: Galactic Conquest Online PVP... please don't say anything is the only hope i have

Knowing EA gets a piece of the monetary pie purely due to legal reasons makes my eyes roll harder than a boulder down a mountain.

Am beyond excited for this game, bf2 is one of my favorite games of all time and having it finally come out on the switch and ps5 is a dream come true. Not only that its coming out not too long after my birthday... I personally think it is worth €35 and i am buying it twice on switch and ps5. If this does really well i do think it could be very likely that they do the psp battlefronts somewhere down the line. And i am so excited to finally play the xbox dlc and multiplayer for these games.

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

If we bring attention to the PSP games and show there is demand for them - Lucasfilm could reach out to Rebellion since a lot of the ES and RS team still work there and are interested in remaking them properly.

Okay, I have one; in the original, you can look at AI troops and issue simple orders. 'Follow me' and 'Move out'. The better you perform, the more AI troops you can issue orders to. 2 to a lower level, 6 at max.

Only thing I'll counter is the alleged EA cut. EA may own Pandemic but they might not necessarily have full monetary rights to Pandemic's Star Wars catalogues.

It’s pretty sad the games I’ve been most excited about are a rerelease of a 20 yr old game and a spiritual sequel to jet set radio future (bomb rush cyberfunk)

@alicatdotcom

4 ай бұрын

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug

While the hype surrounding this means we get full servers right now, I think once this launches, it's going to be disastrous for PC, because it'll split the already fractured and dwindled playerbase online between those who say, "Fuck no I'm not wasting full price on a 20 year old game I already have" and those who say, "I'm a corporate shill and buy anything you tell me to.' (Okay, I'm exaggerating for comedic effect, but you get my point.) It's going to split the playerbase further, and make it so nobody can find anybody online. Unless they manage to get the online to be compatible with the existing GOG Galaxy servers. They should at the very least come with crossplay between all consoles/PC and all versions of the game both the existing and the new re-release.

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

This will be no different from when the community had to move from Gamespy to SWBFSpy/Gameranger and again from SWBFSpy/Gameranger to Galaxy. There will always be a loss but you will find the majority of the playerbase will move to the newest version anyway. It is a situation akin to getting with the times or being left behind.

@zombieguyproducion

3 ай бұрын

I really don't see why any relevant amount of the fanbase will stick to the old games unless Aspyre just leaves the Classic edition with massive bugs and doesn't bother fixing them which... I don't see happening. The lack of crossplay puts a limit on how long the console versions will have an active multiplayer base but PC will be just fine

It probably won't be in, but i want instant action to have no faction restriction. As in, rebels vs clones, droids vs empire, empire vs clones, etc.

@useritiswhatitis4655

4 ай бұрын

I always wanted this to be a feature as well.

Thanks for keeping it real.

Awesome video, I love the background gameplay of Hero Assault on different planets, some of us have never seen it anywhere but Tatooine. In future vids can you include more gameplay of Hero Assault on a different ground map? Geonosis for example?

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

Great Video

Cool background gameplay

The bug fix I desperately want in the classic collection for bf2 is all the ai to get out of the dropship when you land and not have that one straggler crash it into a wall. Also prone in bf2 would be cool but will never happen.

It makes me sad knowing that EA will still get a piece of the cake

@Ay-xq7mj

4 ай бұрын

I mean it doesnt matter since Disney would no matter what anyway.

@Theonetruedarklord

4 ай бұрын

@@Ay-xq7mj that's also true

@Ay-xq7mj

4 ай бұрын

@@Theonetruedarklord I basically am more of a play than buy/rent nowadays.

i hope Aspyr improved the resolution for modern aspect ratios

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Game will be 4k on consoles - it likely might not support ultra wide aspect ratios however

@ColdSniper45

4 ай бұрын

It would feel weird playing BF2 and not having to aim my crosshair a little below where I want to shoot 😅

Aspyr should be able to add a multiplayer campaign mode. You could play multiplayer campaign on the original Battlefront II using admin commands, but it was a little unstable on certain levels. It is a shame to hear that it is not possible to add a multiplayer galactic conquest. Having two leaders command the board game mode with their own respective factions who fight in the game would have been amazing. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZ2Ns7xxkcTTiqQ.html

No split screen on switch is a major bummer. Even though I didn’t plan on picking it up on there that’s gonna disappoint a lot of people when they find out they can’t play local multiplayer with their friends/family

@chloemarlowe3817

4 ай бұрын

Out of curiosity, does anyone know where the "Switch will not have split screen" info is confirmed? I find that info strange as 1: the PS2 version had it and as janky as it was, if it can run on that, it can definitely run on Switch. And more importantly 2: in the Switch Eshop, under "number of players" it says "1-2". Now, I can understand splitscreen being missing in handheld mode and or for online play. But as for offline local splitscreen, I don't know where that info is coming from and the store page seems to directly contradict that claim.

@MaskedKingDavid

4 ай бұрын

@@chloemarlowe3817 I second this question. I double checked the eshop page after watching this video and yeah, it says 1-2 players on a single system.

@chloemarlowe3817

4 ай бұрын

@@MaskedKingDavid and I've been searching ever since posting this comment where this claim originated from and I can't find a thing. The closest I get is that split screen wasn't shown during the Nintendo Direct version of the trailer. Beyond that, I can't find any evidence that split-screen on Switch is cut. And like I said earlier, I can imagine split screen might not be available in handheld mode or online or in a 64 player game. But it sounds like at minimum, offline Campaigns, Instant Action and Galactic Conquest seems to be supported on Switch according to the eshop.

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Strange, it might’ve surfaced prior to the eshop being out; I’ve just seen a lot of modders mentioning it so I assumed it was the case; guess there’s a good bit of misinformation that even I fell for. We’ll see when it comes out

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

I will trim the mention of this from the video next time I am at my pc

Thank you! Damn it I was so sick of all of that misinformation out there, people unintentionally or worse intentionally spreading misinformation is so infuriating. Don't get me wrong I'm calm but things have to be said. People hipping others on nonsensical stuff such as multiplayer cross play GC is wtf at best.. Some even called you with some names, that I won't use because I'm a decent person, saying you had created your mod right after the announcement trying to milk some coverage for "nothing", just wtf..

I knew after Force Unleashed lacked the PSP content that the offerings for this port wouldn't be much, if any, better. Honestly, I would've liked to see them import some of the maps from Renegade - they translate well, are official content. Or, barring that, including the unreleased but finished PS2 version of Elite Squadron as a bonus. Just *something* that isn't already available on Xbox Back Compat or PC.

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Rebellion are interested in handling remakes but it’s a Lucasfilm decision and Aspyr can’t actually add new content like that to the original games; not to mention the fact they run on a completely different game engine.

My unrealistic wish is getting Phil Lamarr and Nika Futterman to voice Kit Fisto and Asajj Ventress for this rerelease.

Preordered for 30 dollars right now. I really hope controller support on PC is real.

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

It couldn’t be steam deck verified if it wasn’t

Will Asyper Updated the Controls for both games, to make it smooth and easy for current gen consoles and last gen consoles?

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Unknown atm but can be assumed

Really curious for how heroes are gonna be handled. I also saw that there were more than two heroes on tantive 4 but thats peobably a tease for hero assualt to be on more maps.

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Will be the same as the originals, just with hero assault on every map.

A lot of people forget that pandemic was purchased by EA. So EA is somewhat involved in this.

It is not necessary to modify the Xbox to access the console's internal drive; you can do it directly from developer mode. The issue is that no one is going to pay 19 USD to install mods.

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

The game would also need to interact with the dev mode partition which it won’t be able to do

@eduardojadam

4 ай бұрын

@@LonelyDragonModding So there is no hope for Xbox players.

I own Battlefront 2 the newest one and when I search and select Star Wars Battlfront Collection, it gives me a loyalty 20% discount ($28).

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

This wasn't mentioned simply due it being inconsistent between regions and platforms and I wanted this video to be generalised for everyone.

@ProGamingProphecy

4 ай бұрын

@LonelyDragonModding Copy. The loyalty discount will be in effect until March 13th. I take it we will need a copy of this collection for any upcoming mods that you release?

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

@@ProGamingProphecy unknown, but I plan to fully support the original for as long as possible unless there’s some major improvements to memory.

epic

Have they spoken with you? Because if they have can you tell them to use a mod that has movie accurate sounds, the blasters especially the clone blaster rifle sounds terrible.

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

They wouldn't be able to do something like that - they have to stay reflective of the original titles.

Will Legacy mod continue to be permanently updated based on the OG steam version? Because I do kind of like the idea of being able to have the classic collection as vanilla, and the OG as my modded version simultaneously, so I dont have to uninstall mods whenever I want to play vanilla.

@rayce8418

4 ай бұрын

Doesn't replace anything in vanilla to begin with.

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

I don't see a reason for a conflict between these versions, the only thing would be dependant on how much of a memory bump CC gets in comparison to the OG. I do not plan to abandon DVD and OG Steam players.

@chadnarukami1651

4 ай бұрын

​@@LonelyDragonModding Based

Finally someone with a brain is explaining all this stuff! The amount of people spreading misinformation or don’t know what they’re talking about is unreal… Everything you said, from the pricing to complications with cross play and what they realistically are likely to do made sense, and was so refreshing compared to comments armchair developers make in YT comments, Reddit, and the Steam Discussions.

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Thanks, it frustrates me too that there’s too few reliable yoitubers that present info with any actual understanding or knowledge of a topic.

I'm worried about how multi-player will go. Jumping and rolling gallore...Don't get me started on the detpacks and rocket launchers...should be interesting

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Should be fine on console, excited to play it properly again. PC multiplayer is so cracked.

Was that first assault at the end ?

On SteamDB is says the game is 64 bit. Was the original 32 bit?

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Yes. It did come out in 2005, when most consumer applications were 32bit

@FridiNaTor

4 ай бұрын

@@LonelyDragonModding Then they did quite the work on the engine. Maybe bigger mods will be possible

Galactic conquest is split screen only? Or can it be played online with LAN. So far the consensus is split screen only. Great vid 👍

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Split screen only like the originals

the one question i have in regards to the crossplay is how come when Aspyr ported Jedi academy it had crossplay in the first week by mistake, only to be removed shortly after, i remember there being a whole thing about PC playing with all the console players on that game and everyone complained when Aspyr removed it.

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

There isn’t really a question asked in this comment

@greyfox3178

4 ай бұрын

@@LonelyDragonModding well how come crossplay was so easily accessible and able to be added with Jedi academy? Wasn’t the Jedi academy port basically the same thing as the new battlefront port? you know as in the same game with updated visuals and new servers? (Sorry if I wasn’t clear on that the first time) just genuinely curious

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

@@greyfox3178 it was running off a modification of the pc version with the same net code. People were able to bypass the console matchmaking servers by connecting directly to console server ips since they forgot to hide them on load screens. This won’t be possible on battlefront since there is no direct connection option.

@greyfox3178

4 ай бұрын

@@LonelyDragonModding thanks, and good informative video btw, good luck with the future mods

@greyfox3178

4 ай бұрын

@@LonelyDragonModding oh actually one more thing, do you think its possible for them to add some kind of party system? or is that not in the cards......like how can we invite our friends to play and that kind of thing.

*Retro DLC:* Add in Ahsoka, and maybe new characters that use weapons similar to those of the Praetorian Guards in some *Retro DLC.* Ads in the new version of Assajj Ventress coming out soon as well with _The Bad Batch_ new series. Add in _Ahsoka's_ vision of Anakin with a red sabre. Other ideas to be welcomed. - New Heroes and villains with new gameplay mechanics would be welcome. Nice use of Lakefront music from Pokémon btw.

I've only played the game on PC, I'd really like to play the challenge mission that were available only on the PSP. And mod support + Steam Workshop would be amazing!

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Challenges is planned to be fully remade for CC by some friends of mine but most of them are already available as a mods on moddb.

@Perceval777

4 ай бұрын

@@LonelyDragonModding Oh, I didn't know they were on ModDB! Thanks! (^-^)

I haven't seen any mention of the AI hero that can spawn on xbox for SWBF2 being included in the collection on the store page or by anyone else noticing missing features. Is it just me that's interested in AI heroes not only in Hero Assault mode?

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Supposedly it’ll be included here, it’s just never said anywhere.

@useritiswhatitis4655

4 ай бұрын

@@LonelyDragonModding Thanks for letting me know.

Is it possible for them to have PlayStation Trophies/Xbox Achievements? What about PC cross play with players on the original version of the game? Is it possible they're using the same servers as the original or would they need new ones?

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Achievements are universal, except on Switch. So you’ll have achievements on Steam. It is unknown what is happening with the existing pc multiplayer - it could go either way but the assumption is it’ll be separated.

People complaining about the price are making a problem out of nothing

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

It's mostly PC players. This release isn't targeting them specifically, but they don't want to just update the game considering how disastrous the 2021 update was.

You mentioned that Galactic Conquest cannot be played with a friend online... do you know if the same thing happens with instant action and story mode? (I don't mean split screen)

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Instant Action is just the offline game modes and will be available online. Galactic Conquest is simply not built to support it and will never work. Campaign *can be played online if you’re on PC through host commands and if you’re playing with modded users on consoles.

@yorchgames8930

4 ай бұрын

@@LonelyDragonModding thanks

I wonder if the cheat codes will work

@TheBenjaman

4 ай бұрын

Now that is the biggest question for me too, i see no reason they dont... but i guess we will see when the game is out

I just want full controller support.

@grannytoes7221

4 ай бұрын

It has it, required since it's also going for steam deck verified. Plus, split screen would be a strange feature for PC if it required 2 sets and K&B lol

@muigokublack6487

4 ай бұрын

@@grannytoes7221I mean on PC. I have the originals on PC so the only reason for me to buy the Classic Collection is if it had full controller support either through this or a mod.

Do you think they will improve the ai for offline ?

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

If there is a memory boost there will be more virtual space for AI to 'think'. This won't improve them greatly but they will be a little less dumb.

I just only want official mod support for ps5😢

Is the split screen only local or online as well? Or do we not know?

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

We don't know, based on the original it could be Offline only - however Xbox supported splitscreen online iirc. it is just another wait and see feature.

@thedarksaber

4 ай бұрын

​@LonelyDragonModding it says on the playstation blog that offline split screen is included. That could not mean much, but I assume that means no online split screen for the playstation platforms at least because why else would they specify.

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

@@thedarksaber thanks, that confirms the suspicions then.

PSP games aswell

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

If we show support for this release and spread awareness and demand for the PSP games to be remade, Rebellion is still staffed by a lot of the original RS and ES team and they are 100% interested in remaking them - they are just waiting for Lucasfilm Games to greenlight it.

How do we know that it was AI upscaling for the textures?

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Trailer footage shows much sharper textures in comparison to the original game - especially on the DLC maps. There’s a promotional image showing the CIS frigate which shows it best. It’ll be ai upscaled since the textures are almost identical to the originals in everything but quality.

@UnchainedEruption

4 ай бұрын

Because we've played Battlefront II for so long, we can tell that the textures and models look a bit sharper and clearer than we're used to. Also, everything is a.i.-upscaled these days, and like he said, if it's going to be 5x the file size, it only follows that's what they did when otherwise it's 100% vanilla.

Is their instant action mode for this classic collection?

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

Of course, it’s a direct port of the original two games.

@vensonbarber9554

4 ай бұрын

@@LonelyDragonModding ok that good to hear thank you

Who cries about 35 dollars yall want games but dont wanna pay for them if you cant afford gaming try a cheaper hobby lol

You modders better get to work right away,there’s a lot for y’all to fix.

So stupid that they didn’t add BF3 to this collection. I mean the game was like 99.999999998% complete basically and really really polished. Totally unreasonable for them to not add that practically finished game.

@Darksider13

4 ай бұрын

/s for the aloof

@U9DATE

4 ай бұрын

I don’t know if I believe the game was nearly completed. If it was wouldn’t the devs have leaked that build or a much near finished build along with all the models and that?

@unchallengedmediocrity7886

4 ай бұрын

Idk, it would've been amazing, but that would probably have to be an entirely separate project.

@GTTeancum

4 ай бұрын

@@U9DATEThey were joking.

@strungarsshack5678

4 ай бұрын

@@U9DATE Battlefront Elite Squadron for the PSP is actually the portable version of BF3. But just like the PSP version of BF2, there was stuff cut out. Like maps, and playable characters.

When you said AI upscale will that mean the AI themselves will be improved? In the current version the AI tend to be really terrible. Heres just an example of Darth Maul running into a wall lol 9:44

@KofotsDoktorn

4 ай бұрын

No, he is talking about textures.

Usually when people title their videos "info" on (insert game here) doesn't mean most of the video should consist of uhh we don't know, stop asking

@rayce8418

4 ай бұрын

It's for fighting clickbait/misinformation. We wouldn't need to say we don't know if other KZreadrs stopped making so many stupid assumptions.

@jarrodedson5441

4 ай бұрын

​@@rayce8418 that's fair

@jarrodedson5441

4 ай бұрын

​@@rayce8418 I do hate click baiters

50 GB!!! What a fucking joke! This is just like Halo 2 on MCC. Something absurd like 40-50 GB when the original game is barely 2-3 GB. There is zero excuse for making the file size 5x larger than the 10 GB it should be when they're literally just the original graphics anyway!

@LonelyDragonModding

4 ай бұрын

So you would want 240p 24fps videos on your 4k monitor/TV? It is mostly movie files that are no longer compressed and are a higher resolution. Same reason why CoD games are so huge, since they still use pre-rendered full motion videos as well.

@willwunsche6940

4 ай бұрын

It's the movie cutscenes that make up 90% of it. It's completely reasonable for the resolution. There's a reason games don't use movie cutscenes anymore. Even the original versions which are around 11gb were mostly movie cutscenes files