I'm going to admit it. I can't stand shows or movies that are too woke, it never appealed to me.

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

Me neither. I just want it to be good

@EPetras

3 жыл бұрын

It always feels way too forced

@josepetersen7112

3 жыл бұрын

It’s funny, the older shows certainly were written primarily by democrats. Being quite conservative, I really STILL enjoyed the show. This new stuff just goes too far. Honestly, Lorca was my favorite character and captain until they ruined him.

@KLamki1

3 жыл бұрын

@@josepetersen7112 Yeah, when the left could still somewhat think critically and creatively. Now they can't do either. You aren't being entertained or making you think, you're just being indoctrinated.

@Getvictd744

3 жыл бұрын

I'm just fast forwarding all over the place almost finished season 2

It not even a show anymore, it's a "representation parade"

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

So sad

@nounnoun

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, just like Star trek the original series, deep space 9, etc...

@Whitebeardtheking9

3 жыл бұрын

@@nounnoun but unlike those older better shows. This takes a side whereas those shows gave you the perspective of both sides of things without beating you over the head.

@WhatsWrongWithTheStreet

3 жыл бұрын

That is a good way to put it.

@farazq

2 жыл бұрын

@@nounnoun Maybe you should watch them.

Maybe when Orville ends, they can be hired to direct a proper Star Trek series and get everything back on track.

@Johnjohnson-zg4ek

3 жыл бұрын

That would be awesome

@procreation100

2 жыл бұрын

Is Orville back I thought it was canceled like 2 years ago

@anwarsentinel1752

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't make any bets just yet

@richardanderson8696

2 жыл бұрын

The Orville already is a proper Star Trek series.

@Hexterguard99

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, that would be good.

Star Trek series are often shortened to their acronym. Knowing this common knowledge, can we just pause for a second at how idiotic it was to name the series STD? How tf did this get approved?

@johnmeneses7039

2 жыл бұрын

Because as the Acronym implies, that's exactly what it is, I wouldn't touch it if you paid me to.

@josephcelestine1945

2 жыл бұрын

Because it is an STD!!!! "annoying, and seems to spread despite you not wanting it to"

@user-nx2cb7fs2f

2 ай бұрын

It’s funny, but in accurate. The acronyms are TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT. But that logic, this shows acronym is DIS.

@zshah3107

6 күн бұрын

Ironically, STD always stands for Sexually Transmitting Diease!

the wokeness level is too damn high, it beams me to perpetual cringe state

I made it to season 3. It is barely watchable. Even with the visuals, the virtue signalling is off the charts. Embarrassing. This woke train has run off the rails big-time. Sigh

@goodaimshield1115

2 жыл бұрын

I actually liked the first two seasons, despite the obvious wokeness with the characters (though I really don't like tha fact that theu were so over focused on like... 4 or 5 characters only, I don't even know the names of the crew). But the third one was a little bit too much.

It's biggest mistake is the hyper focus on a single character. It's telling when most people don't even known the names of most of the crew after this much time.

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. When that cyborg died i didn't even care

@nuttydishwasher5377

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheConfidentAsian Heck, I wouldn't even care if Michael Burnham died.

@nuttydishwasher5377

3 жыл бұрын

In fact, i would probably cheer.

@pittland44

3 жыл бұрын

The show is little more than a feminist power trip. Change my mind.

@FacultyFan

5 ай бұрын

That was a major mistake. I think I was 4 seasons in and couldn't name but 1 or 2 characters on the bridge because the focus was always on mikey. Not to mention the technology wasn't the only thing powered by magic mushrooms. I think the people who wrote the plot were high. And yes, the woke shit killed it. The episode where the 50 year old white guy who somehow invented tribbles is being commanded by a "captain" who looks all of 21? Really? Did Starfleet stop promoting on the basis of merit and just started following DEI standards for promotions? Has it stopped the evil reign of white man tyranny? You know, those evil white colonizing bastards like Picard and Kirk? Have we solved the future's problems because we have exterminated white men (and eventually women)? Is it really genocide if it's justified? Or are we just going to force the white people into subservient second class citizen roles because of their skin color. I have a feeling that was totally what Star Trek was about. Equality? Fuck that! This is Equity! we can fix the past by becoming genocidal racists! oh wait.... I guess history is repeating itself.

The level of over-the-top melodramatic acting of the Burnham character is sickening and intolerable.

I watched the first 15 minutes of the first show, turned it off and never went back. Michelle Yeoh was a real sales point for me but by minute 15 I thought I can' watch this show anymore. From what I heard, my sense about turning this show off was correct.

@nuttydishwasher5377

3 жыл бұрын

I tried to give it a chance, but after painfully plodding through the nonsensical first season, I could no longer watch it after season 2 episode 3. I don't think I have ever been this ANNOYED by a main character. Heck, they should've replaced Michael Burnham with Yar yar Binks, at least THEN it would have been a proper parody of the series.

@johnmeneses7039

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree with you, I never made it past about 15 minutes, never went back, never will, and I am a BIG TREKKIE. STD is not Star Trek at all, it's a modern piece of woke rubbish.

@bugmanmd1576

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmeneses7039 you're right on. This is not star trek at all. I've loved trek since the original series, but made it through only S01E01, about half way before I turned it off. I'll never go back. They have completely ruined Trek.

I stopped watching the circus , I can’t take it anymore.

Of course they hire people to tick boxes, there's an Asian guy who barely has any lines. He's just there like trophy on a shelf.

@calebrands4912

3 жыл бұрын

That makes the original series look woke.

this show makes star trek V watchable

@Wolf912

3 жыл бұрын

It makes Star Trek V good.

@man8785

3 жыл бұрын

The only good part of Star Trek after 2005 was the brief glimpse of the cast posing for a Star Trek V promo shoot in Star Trek Beyond (Redemption).

@iluomobravo

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! That’s tough! Lol

@nickfarmer88

3 жыл бұрын

Hey hey hey, Star Trek V was the reason I became a fan of TOS 😂👍🏾

@mmadmuor7149

2 жыл бұрын

Sad but true

I tried. Seriously tried. But it’s just so bad, I cannot watch it. I liked the captain of the first season. The rest ist just unwatchable.

@iamtheiceman

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah ! I really REALLY loved Lorca as a character ! I thought his no nonsense style was the best thing ever. Pike was also awesome. And, evil Georgiou was also great ! Almost everyone else can go away, with maybe the exception of Saru, of course.

@stevenscott2136

3 жыл бұрын

As a person who frequently sided with Worf during briefing-room discussions, I also quite liked Lorca. I know Trek is supposed to be optimistic, but there ARE situations where "the best diplomat is a fully-charged phaser bank".

Kurtsman and the rest of them bastardized everything gene Roddenberry strove for in his writing.

Are you ready to admit Star Trek Enterprise was good yet?

@johnmeneses7039

2 жыл бұрын

Hooray another wise thinker. If STE was cancelled because of apparent low ratings, how come this rubbish is still being shown. Get rid of it and don't even try to syndicate it.

The wokeness is grating and makes this mess unwatchable. I'm done.

Mate I'm 4 episodes into season 3. If thought it was woke before. Your mind is about to be blown away with wokeness.

When Tasha Yar was head of Security on TNG she kicked ass.

@Johnjohnson-zg4ek

3 жыл бұрын

She was really believable too

If the only value your product has is its message, it’s a bad product.

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!! You can have a message, but you must have a good product FIRST

@gaetano2477

3 жыл бұрын

@First Commenter ikr, in tng they have a episode about a gender neutral character experiencing gender identity issues, and the characters actress it's so good and the script it's so we'll writed that i loved that episode none of that bulshit like in std when they have her "first gender neutral character of the series" and one of her first lines it's calling out a superior officer about her pronouns because it's ofended

@gaetano2477

3 жыл бұрын

@First Commenter the outcast, riker falls on love with a member of an androgynous race on witch they don't have sex but there are a group among them that feels identified with a gender and in their planet there's a lot of prejudice and persecution against them.

@histguy101

3 жыл бұрын

@Snake Plisken Sounds like he's just playing up to the expectations of this week, or this year, for whatever reasons.

They could have did so much with Captain Lorca and made him a great character but oh no they needed their white male villian who could only be stopped by diverse female space jesus michael burnham...

Thanks for standing up and saying what needed to be said. I totally agree with you as do so many others. I am blown away by those people out there who actually defend this show even though it is clearly pushing diversity and shoving it right down your throats every opportunity it gets. I am all for diversity but like you said it must be balanced and should not be used to check off a box for diversity's sake. I love the story in season 1 and season 2 but you could definitely tell that they were ramping up the woke nature of the show the closer they got to season 3. Season 3 was a tragedy to watch and I can no longer take it. The spectacular cinematography, acting, and special effects of season 1 and 2 are a distant memory now. Keep up the good work man !

@josephcelestine1945

2 жыл бұрын

It's like this Crap is catered to a small select audience, everything else can go pound sand for all they care.

@antneybomo1922

2 жыл бұрын

So you want a white man only cast. Who has the real problem here?

@emillyyelen5169

2 жыл бұрын

@@antneybomo1922 stop assuming shit!

Another failed woke show while they cancel all the actual good ones

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

right?!

@J.Wolf90

3 жыл бұрын

At this rate. Lt commander data might be right. Tv will cease to exist by the mid 2040s

@HairyDJMikeT

3 жыл бұрын

"Failed" Three seasons, fourth in production. Two spinoffs. Another spinoff in the works and another two spinoffs being talked about. Talk about failure!

@shadowmoon7821

3 жыл бұрын

@@HairyDJMikeT right, i was laughing at this guy. but well. this show has 4 seasons, this guy needs to make these videos for the coin 🤣🤣🤣

@HairyDJMikeT

3 жыл бұрын

@@c.w.k.n.5117 Yeah that's what businesses do, deliberately dump money for four four years for no reason.

Netflix is terrible for this. It's gotten to the point where I keep track of all the wokeness in the show. Lead characters should be female and of a darker skin colour and not conform to stereotypes. Many should be gay or bi-sexual. Those that are gay need to not conform to stereotypes and be strong, independent characters. A person with a disability should be given a role where their ability is crucial. All in all, the people being cast for parts should be offended that they're chosen for reasons they are.

@nuttydishwasher5377

3 жыл бұрын

You forget that straight white men can only be in positions of total submission to their female counterparts.

@jamesb8193

2 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with that? White male and female leads have been around forever and remain dominant in relationships on TV and movies in power positions. I have a problem when there's no balance, but there's not enough black male leads unless they're stereotyped to death. I've seen more black female leads that are still answering to white males bosses or in a mixed relationship (hardly ever with a black male) get more screen time. It's like reminding us, "Hey you have a great job and we'll recognize you but white is right and we still have the power. As far as people with disabilities, how do you define that? That's arrogant. The only thing you were correct about was your last statement. Your second statement is offensive Brutha...

@JelloFluoride

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesb8193 your poor taste in media is showing

The whole notion of Tilly even being allowed on board is silly....much less given a position of authority. At best, such a person might make it as a "geek squad" person they consult, but NEVER allow on the bridge or around critical negotiations!

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

Right?!

@zac8670

3 жыл бұрын

Ok. I thought I was crazy with what they wrote for Tilly in season 3, with literally no build up for proper explanation. Thanks for confirming why it felt incorrect.

@TheWairarapaWildcat

3 жыл бұрын

Tilly I'm sick of that chubby weepy character she's rubbish

@pointermom7641

3 жыл бұрын

Do these writers know nothing about military chain of command?

@judaegekikamen4223

3 жыл бұрын

@@pointermom7641 nope, they even said it themselves. It was a room full of women with no one else in the room, I.e. men. So they decided to write out their fanfics into "canon"

someone in star trek's military decided to put every "diverse" person on 1 ship to fulfill their quotas passive aggressively so that they dont ruin every ship

Thank You. I struggled through the first season, when the second season came out I struggled through two episodes and finally called it quits it. It just wasn’t Star Trek. Could not relate to the characters, they were not Star Fleet. When Voyager was announced and they introduced Captain Janeway, I thought the show was going to be a flop. But after the first episode, “ The first episode”, The character of Janeway fruit she was Starfleet, the acting the writing was all top shelf and for every episode it was top shelf. I really mourned on the show coming to an end.

@ralf716

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Janeway really nailed the captain thing.

Woah, one of my favorite modern comedians is both a huge Star Trek fan AND based? A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

Yup! Been a fan since i first saw the original series. Always identified with Spock! Lol

@Bjorick

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheConfidentAsian i think i identify with data more then anyone, lol, so i can relate :D

@darrellhart8129

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheConfidentAsian Fascinating.

@timtimtimmaah

3 жыл бұрын

Most comedians are based. You can't be a leftist with a sense of humour.

@dickhardpicard

Жыл бұрын

@@TheConfidentAsian noooo you should have identified with sulu.

Aggreed, dispite the visual effect and best efforts of the cast it's almost unwatchable. Just like Dr Who, the woke writers are ruining a great franchise. 😞

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

I hope the new Pike show is better

@jonathansoko1085

3 жыл бұрын

Picard is som how worse

@judaegekikamen4223

3 жыл бұрын

Watch, the big companies are going down the line of each scifi series and going to make them so woke, they destroy the genre.

@jonathansoko1085

3 жыл бұрын

@@judaegekikamen4223 being "woke" isnt really the problem. Star trek has ALWAYS been "woke" since TOS. Thats not inherently the problem. Its just HOW they do it, its just so ham fisted. Diversity isnt an issue, its always been diverse. Its simply how they do this garbage.

@alwest4472

2 жыл бұрын

I mean… dr who wasn’t really woke? It just had shitty concepts and bad writing? Because the show runner was a fucking idiot

Completely agree. I've loved Star Trek since I was 14 (1979). I've soaked up all of the series, movies. I can set my mind to ignore the obvious historical discontinuities, but what has stopped me from watching part way through S3 is the far-fetched writing. It's Mary Sue situation. Any time there's an overwhelming problem they write some magic to solve it. And then Saru makes Tilly his first officer, and everybody thinks it's great. Utter condescending, pandering bullshit. It insults the intelligence. There's more time spent expressing heart-felt feelings than there is doing anything else. It's a repulsive insult to Trekkies.

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

So true. Total mary sue-itis. They keep "writing" emotions instead of actually making the audience feel something

@judaegekikamen4223

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheConfidentAsian thats the problem, everyone now a days thinks in feelings and emotions instead of logic and reason.

@devmag52

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a cesspool of CW style writing to be sure

@josephcelestine1945

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! an insult to Trekkies, whom are all not LGBT.

*Star Trek Discovery* Lowers Human IQ by tenfold Ia m not joking !

Tilly was a major insult to me because I too have aspergers/autism, during college my classmates watched Discovery and they all assumed people with aspergers and autism are like her. It pissed me off so much.

@aggroknight4259

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine having something that causes you to be unfairly segregated from the rest of the world. You're very intelligent as a person, but you don't get to live a normal life. You don't have any lasting friendships because you're never given a chance. All you have to go by is the internet, video games, and television. Then as you get older, you notice everything you enjoy become catered mainly towards upper-middle-income adults with cushy jobs. You can't find any new games, TV shows or movies that appeal to you anymore, and the ones you already have become stale and boring to indulge in. Then one day, you find out that on one of those newer TV shows that desecrated one of your favourite sci-fi franchises, there is a character who's supposed to represent the kind of person you are, but was obviously put there as nothing but a token, to sell some manufactured caricature of your identity to the "normal" privileged majority. This show is trash.

@OverlordMalarkey

2 жыл бұрын

@@aggroknight4259 Thank you! Finally someone understands how I felt!

@rambojambo588

2 ай бұрын

Haha ass-burgers

Glad you had the courage to say what needed to be said. I lasted through only the first two episodes of the first season before seeing what it was, being disgusted, and vowing never to watch again. The only male character they had on the bridge was an alien who was afraid of his own shadow. I cannot understand how any true Star Trek fan could have sat through this. This isn't star trek. It's trash. And certainly not something I can share with my young children. You should not have backed off in the last 10 seconds of your video... that kind of destroyed your message.

@Chronz

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, the alternative isn't zero diversity vs wokeness. Its simply equality for all that we ask for. The American way of life is under attack by the radical left(equity vs equality. History vs crt) they run the culture wars and our art is failing as a result. It's crazy to see how tng handled the immigration debate with respect to both sides vs how picard literally compares ice agents to nazis. It's as of they think us minorities don't care about border security and it's just Maga whites with kkk hoods. Truly insulting and ignorant

I hate what they did to Captain Pike. They made him into the goofy husband. He supposed to be the original Captain Kirk.

*The Orvil is the REAL STAR TREK. The guy who made Family Guy made a BETTER Star Trek Series*

@judaegekikamen4223

3 жыл бұрын

Ironically

I couldn't agree more with this analysis. I watched Season 1 and episode 1 of Season 2. This should have been called "Star Trek Discovery: The Michael Burnham Saga". If had talked to my superiors the way she does, I would have dishonorably discharged in seconds....regardless of my abilities. I will not watch another episode and it's a shame, because the special effects are awesome.

@kane5000

3 жыл бұрын

"star trek" should never have been attached to this dumpster fire, otherwise you are correct

If you don't watch season 3, you won't REALLY understand what woke truly is.

@Harpoon2theRescue

3 жыл бұрын

If you don't watch the series at all you'll be a much wiser person.

@debraboyer1972

2 жыл бұрын

What’s worse is they have decided to do a season 4! So I tried to find a place where I could go and complain and so I went to Facebook. On the Discovery Facebook sight you aren’t allowed to say ANYTHING negative about Star Trek discovery or the show! So I tried to find somewhere to complain and I ended up writing CBS in Australia. That’s where CBS business is located. I am so glad to have found this sight. I was so upset when Stacey Abrams was written into the show as the ruler of the universe! I guess since she can’t win as governor of Georgia then Hollywood will make her ruler of the universe. 🤢

I don't think I ever had such a massive eye roll in my life when they introduced the trans they/them character....and how sickening the awwws and oooos where from the characters...I mean this is in the future and space and all kinds of alien life form but this is such a revelation? POO, get out of here. Let Michelle Yeoh go rogue, steal a ship and take Saru, the two female pilots (I do like them), Dr Stamets and the engineer and LINUS but while escaping blow up everyone else...I like my plan. I'm not a trekkie, I enjoy stories, I enjoy good characters...and Micheal is not a good character.

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

That would be awesome if she went rogue and took those characters and made a whole new show!!

@pointermom7641

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Michael is a terrible actress. For someone raised on Vulcan, nothing she ever does is logical - it's all emotion.

@nyk2000m

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, those are the only characters in the show that I see them as OK or Good.

@judaegekikamen4223

3 жыл бұрын

@@pointermom7641 she's more of a romulan than a vulcan ironically.

@adammclaughlin845

3 жыл бұрын

I'm autistic and I am considered to have a neurological defeat leading to a lifelong disability. But if I thought I was a woman, I would be a hero. Isn't modern diversity wonderful!

I always give the first season of a new star trek series a lot of leeway, most get better fairly quickly but can start wonky. Season 2 gets no such excuses. STD lived up to the name

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

I usually only give a series 1 or 2 episodes to hook me. But because I'm so loyal to the franchise I watched the whole first two seasons. Such a waste

@judaegekikamen4223

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheConfidentAsian you poor fool, that's inhumane torture! 😄😆🤣

@noizW

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheConfidentAsian s3 was even worse!!!

@johnmeneses7039

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, I watched about 15 minutes of the first episode and said this is absolute rubbish, so far from the Star Trek Universe that I refuse to watch it. If Enterprise was cancelled due to poor viewership, then why are they still wasting money on this woke rubbish. I hear its viewership is even lower than that of Enterprise.

@Primalxbeast

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheConfidentAsian I forced myself to sit though the first season of Stargate Universe. It was painful and I'm not even going to consider watching an entire season of Star Trek being destroyed. If you want to appeal to a new audience, make a new show instead of destroying an existing franchise just to make money. It's so disrespectful to old fans.

An embarrassing representation of star trek

The best thing I can say about STD is that it is not as bad as ST Picard.

@judaegekikamen4223

3 жыл бұрын

They're both equally bad, haha

They(the powers that be in the entertainment industry) must think that the Star Trek(as well as Dr Who,Star Wars,Ghostbusters,X-Men,Avengers,Terminator)audience is totally hungry for the utterly absurd just because they like science fiction. Obviously their learning curve is arrested.

I'm so glad I found this video, thought I was being to harsh, this is just not star Trek, if they spend as much time on the storyline as they do on virtue signalling it would be a great show

@Chronz

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh. Millions hate the show, you're not being too harsh

They seem to think diversity and lens flairs compensate for bad writing. Don't think I've ever watched a show where I am accutely aware of how many times I roll my eyes :).

To think that shows like Dollhouse, Firefly, and Fringe which the first two just outright go cancelled, and Fringe getting so close to cancelling, boggles my mind when shows like Riverdale and this horseshit keeps getting aired. THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH HOLLYWOOD?

@jarynn8156

3 жыл бұрын

Evidently people who aren't you enjoy the show. Given that it costs CBS over a hundred million dollars to film a season of Discovery, it must be doing well to continue justifying it. The show has now lasted longer than Kirk's run.

@vonnmiguelconsul7650

3 жыл бұрын

@@jarynn8156 So I assume you like this show? If so, good for you. It still doesn't change the fact that it's horeshit and forced propaganda. I don't get why SJWs get off to forced writing like this.

You're going to hate Season 3 then... because I do too. My heart hurts.

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

Ha. Not even going to watch it

@Zefram0911

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheConfidentAsian the woke stuff went to the next level. there's non binary people that demand pronouns.

@alternative915

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zefram0911 Also there been a more and more female character doing a lot of their role for the plot - New character - non-binary lady - the representative of the united earth DF - woman - Starfleet HQ chief of Security officer - woman - Vulcan (i dont care what discovery calling the new name) new president - emotional vulcan woman - the antagonist - female orion - the Owo lady, blue eye and airiam replacement is suddenly relevant this season meanwhile guys were - dying look guy with alien helmet on titan - -Finn- Booker - Soy andorian - Emo and soy Orion in charge of one of the slave planet - starfleet admiral vance that is refreshing because he could see through burnham bs, but sadly his role couldnt stop milky burnham for driving the plot and always afraid the writers is going to make him a villian because he sound and feel like one... - old man who very interested with the terran empire (the only one so far that isnt woke)

@Henry_992.

3 жыл бұрын

@@alternative915 even the Klingon chancellor and head of the emerald chain are females.

@KLamki1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Henry_992. The force is female? Oh sorry wrong universe. Yeah, this is what happens when you fire all the male writers and fill it with a all feminist writing room that have unnatural hatred of all men.

LOL You are hilarious dude! Loved the video

I saw your special and thought. This dude is funny and. Now watching this video and just noticed its you. Man, you rock!!! Congrats.

This was an insightful review! I think Hollywood is just like a really bad 16-year old babysitter pandering to a crying baby with immediate/temporary solutions. Perhaps that’s why we see a lot of drastic changes like this.

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. And you know what? All this pandering is going to age badly.

Wow i really wanted to see that show. So much i haven’t wanted any knowledge of. For some reason i just clicked on this, and last 10 sec I realized who was talking. 🤦🏼‍♂️ god i hope it doesn’t suck that bad.

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

It does. So sad. Just rewatch TNG or the last few seasons of DS9

@jamesnelson984

3 жыл бұрын

It really is exactly the way he described it. I watched both seasons in the hopes of it getting over the wokeness but as I slowly ran out of episodes I realized it would never stop being woke.

It just got laughably worse and worse. It did it for me when the new Trill host said she/he/it preferred to be addressed by a non female pronoun. Done.

@radicalrises7520

3 жыл бұрын

But that was a fail at being woke too because the trill is multi gender due to the male and female host history. Im sure she said she wanted they/them pro nouns. Ultimate facepalm

Season 2 started to get good but season 3 is total garbage. I agree too much woke shit every episode in season 3

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't bring myself to watch another season

Everything you said in your video is THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH. The show STD will go down as the worst Star Trek TV series ever. It might be the series that broke the camel's back and ended Star Trek. It's that bad. (I agree that the visuals & CGI is fantastic, all the rest is crap.)

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

True. This series broke my trekkie heart

I loved the nature of Star Trek, the wholesomeness of exploring and having ideals and the realism of the show. But this "Woke" CRAP! They've destroyed Star Wars, Star Trek, Superman, etc. The list can go on and on, everything they touch turns to shit. It's like Midas but without turning things to Gold, except they turn everything to shit!

Hello, @Eliot. That's fine, despite my casual enjoyment. Yet, I won't expect the fifth and final season to rule or drool.

The more I see ST:DIS the more I end up loving The Orville.

The gay Dude's love-scene is like a Woke SJW "Soap Opera" like the "Days of our lives"

I just got Paramount +, and binged till season 3, and just like you, after a while, I was like... "I'm surrounded by women, gays, and trans." Nothing against that, but damn, don't shove it all down my throat (pun kinda intended). Good job, dude.

"WOKE TEMPLATE CHARACTERS"

Don't forget about those awesome 'future-looking' Sketchers shoes! LOL

It's amazing Starfleet hasn't been defeated with diversity hires in command.

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

Lololol. True

@nounnoun

3 жыл бұрын

I guess you didn't enjoy Star Trek Deep Space 9, then...

@meerkat1954

3 жыл бұрын

That's why the massacre at Wolf 359 happened. Notice how the borg were all white? They chewed up the incompetent diversity hires in Star Fleet for breakfast.

I totally agree with pretty much everything you said. This show could have revived the Star Trek shows, but due to all the things you mentioned, it just keep losing. Fans wanted captain Pike back, but no.... He is too much of the general population probably....

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know how you mess up such a worshipped franchise

@happychappy492

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheConfidentAsian by doing what they have done...

You nailed it. I couldn't make it past Season 1

@johnmeneses7039

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, my gosh you must have suffered, I didn't make it past the first 15 minutes of Season 1 Episode 1.

@keywitness4955

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmeneses7039 haha. I figure most pilots are clumsy and was willing to give it a chance . I did stop just bc she disobey the captain orders. Like seriously?

Thanks for this vid, was going to binge watch this series but after seeing this, won't waste my time or data on it.

Well Said. This show just panders and insults and does not focus on the ACTUAL Star Trek but rather focused on its own agenda. FFS CBS.

Oh yes! everything said here is absolutely true, nothing is sexist . The best thing about Star Trek Discovery is the visuals. They aare over compensating with diversity to the point that everything else which matters is sacrificed. It is so true how little depth the bridge officers have. They really should have narrowed the focus instead of trying to be all things to all people which you really can't do well with out writing better. You don't have to do it all at once. Too bad.

Remember Dark Angel, Buffy, Xena, Alias, Charmed, & Murder She Wrote. I mean, what happened?

@judaegekikamen4223

3 жыл бұрын

The wokeness was a cancer that decided to be aggressive and take over. Haha

@devmag52

3 жыл бұрын

@@judaegekikamen4223 I wish that was just a joke. You notice how Babylon Bee is more prophetic than ironically amusing these days? Kind of like that

You know how societal problems should be brought up in Star Trek? Bones being prejudice of Spock - he’s not a horrible person and his opinion of Spock doesn’t define him. He just has this one character trait that isn’t beaten over your head and is only brought up as comic relief to point out the absurdity of the stuff that comes out of his mouth when we know different.

@johnmeneses7039

2 жыл бұрын

There was more to learn and the lessons were well presented. It was fun to watch. It did not make you feel that you were being forced to accept a totally one sided view of the World. I don't care if a person is woke or not, but don't step on my toes trying to force your views down on me, because then I will not be quiet, and I have very big feet to step back onto your toes.

treks kinda always been "woke" and socially aware but i feel like in the past it was always in the right way. Discovery just feels like a "hey look at us were totally down with you and are cool too" type of ordeal. I was always under the impression that in the trek universe they were long past these stupid "problems", guess they forgot

@devmag52

3 жыл бұрын

No, they are well aware what they are doing. When Stewart comes right out and says his show is a reaction to “Brexit and Trump”, not about being inspirational sci-fi like in days of old, the agenda is clear

@jonathansoko1085

3 жыл бұрын

@@devmag52 I was confused till i read that the makers of these shows are intentionally trying to make people mad. Thats all i needed to know.

@TrumpImmortal

3 жыл бұрын

There is a distinct difference in tone. Classic trek was hopeful and optimistic. Even ds9. This garbage is angry and condescending. It's less of a show and more of a patronizing lecture.

@jonathansoko1085

3 жыл бұрын

@@TrumpImmortal Thats pretty much what i said

@bluebull399

3 жыл бұрын

For me diversity and woke are 2 different things. Diversity means just that, a diverse cast. Woke is casting people purely to tick boxes.

Your criticisms of ST Disco are spot on. I have been watching Star Trek since boy hood. Part of the appeal of it was that it presented a future in which you wanted to live. The dark, misandrist, LGTBQIA+ future of ST Disco is as repulsive to me as the future depicted in Orwell's novel "1984" It is the first ST show that I could not bring myself to watch.

@TheConfidentAsian

10 ай бұрын

This comment is spot on!

OMG THANK YOU for speaking the truth! As an avid Trekkie, nothing is more sickening then alienating your fanbase and watching a capable series being completely flushed down the toilet from ultra-lib wokism! Thanks Ghostbusters 3 and new Star Wars 🤮🤮🤮

@jamesb8193

2 жыл бұрын

Stop your nonsense. Stop using the term Lib. You sound childish. There are conservative liberals. I'm a Liberal Conservative and I can't stand the show. Be careful because labeling makes you sound a bigot.

The show is really called “STD”?? Did no one in PR care to try a little bit to avoid that?

As for "all previous Trek series had the cast as equal players." Is this a joke? That has never been the case. EVER. The biggest disparity is TOS. "Hailing frequencies open." Two actors on two different series almost quit the show because of it. One did (Tasha), and the other only stayed because she was talked out of it by Martin Luther King. The captain has always been the lead, and the lower the rank, the less screen time...in EVERY previous Trek show.

@Jashtvorak

3 жыл бұрын

_"The captain has always been the lead, and the lower the rank, the less screen time...in EVERY previous Trek show."_ That is true only for TOS which stands appart...because of the time it was made. Just the next series, TNG, took different approach, gone was the cowboy diplomacy where captain was leading every away mission, punching first alien he met in the face. Leading away mission was first officer's job now. Cast memebers had their leading episodes.

its like the show writers and actors are proud that it sucks they wear it like a badge of honor its weird

By just seeing an ad for this, I knew it was woke. I didn't even waste my time.

Michael Burnham stood before a Starfleet board of court-martial and pleaded guilty to mutiny, to assaulting a fellow officer (who for at least seven years had been a mentor and mother figure for Burnham), and to precipitating a war between the Federation and the Klingon Empire (a war which, according to Memory Alpha, killed thousands). I don't want to spoil Season 3 for you, but her crime spree continues throughout Season 3. She is lawless, undisciplined, selfish, and lethal (on a large scale) to her fellow persons.

They ruined every sci fi and superhero movie or show that comes out .

Do you know Overlord DVD aka Doomcock by any chance? He covered the show extensively for over a year now (and btw is a great and hilarious pop culture critic and maybe the future ruler of earth ^ ^).

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

not till you mentioned it! watching it now. love it lol kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmmll7OfhtunZqQ.html

@NebLleb

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts on Doomcock is that, well, he does have a point to his "Without Respect, We Reject" mentality.

@devmag52

3 жыл бұрын

He’s like most of us. Just wants well written stories with compelling characters with real arcs. We have none of that these days

I keep trying to give it a go and then...

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. But I gave up

@clairelouise335

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. I'm currently giving Season 2 another try but I always end up getting fed up 😡

The writers on Star Trek Discovery have made the mistake of confusing 'Woke' culture for 'Progressiveness' and ruined the show.

@judaegekikamen4223

3 жыл бұрын

Is there a difference? Seriously asking, it's hard to interpret since both words have become interchangeable in today's age.

@emillyyelen5169

2 жыл бұрын

@@judaegekikamen4223 because progressiveness is real "scientific" term and woke is just pop culture buzz word...

@johnsmith-px3xj

Жыл бұрын

@@judaegekikamen4223 Progressive culture in the past was about freedom to live your life how you wanted. Whereas woke culture is authoritarian in its nature. It is about telling people how they should live. Anyone who disagrees with the woke world view is cancelled and attacked by the mob.

Also the dialogue is written like a rejected, first draft of a CW episode.

every episode is like a counseling session more about emotions than exploring/adventuring

I couldn't agree more with this assessment. I can't even get through the first episode of the 4th season

And it's way worse than you think in season 3 and 4. Now even the computer has "emotions" and needs counseling. And there's an episode where there's some kind of blackhole going to absorb planets and they have little time to evacuate people, so they should just hurry right? But no, instead Michael is asking "how are you feeling, tell me about your feelings". I'm like Are you kidding me? It went from woke to SUPER-woke in season 3 and 4.

@TheConfidentAsian

23 күн бұрын

@@youuuuuuuuuuutube omg. Sounds awful lol

"If Starfleet was about equal opportunity, it should be 50/50." This is false. Men traditionally dominate in command leadership for good reason. There is no a priori reason that equal opportunity delivers 50/50 outcomes. In some areas women dominate and some areas men dominate. Men tend to dominate in STEM fields by their inclinations and women in medicine and 'people related' fields like teaching. Feminism has damaged the very notion of equality so that everything that isn't 50/50 or better in women (or minorities) favor is considered sexism or racism.

Jet Reno... ...that’s a woman?? I thought that was a 68 year old methhead recovery dude. The part that utterly killed it for me was the deliberate making fun of Gene Roddenberry, by making him a janitor that scoops bodygoop with a shitty shovel and this “Jet” person says, “yeah, already forgot you, shut up.”

I've tuned out this show, and I've tuned out Picard. (I've also tuned out Doctor Who, and I couldn't watch The Orville after the first season...which is sad, because I really like that show and they pulled off the exploration of the human condition really well and evenly in the first season.) People are telling me that they've learned their lesson in Strange New Worlds and I should give that show a chance, but you know what they say, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice... can't get fooled again." The biggest problem is the aggressive "in your face"-ness about it. It's like it's intentionally meant to offend the sensibilities of anyone who isn't as progressively woke as they are, as much as possible. The Expanse (and the aforementioned first season of The Orville, and for that matter Voyager, Deep Space Nine, Next Generation, et. al.) were good examples of how you can explore or have in your show different, "progressive" characters but not have whatever woke attribute they possess be the only reason they're in the damn show, and not be shoving their alternative lifestyle down your throat every chance they got. The hardest part about all of this is that you cannot even bring this topic up in a conversation (at least not in California) without somebody starting to shout at you, label you with all sorts of ad hominem attacks and calling you hateful... in the most hateful manner (ironic, innit?). Trek always has been and should still be a vehicle that promotes discussion, not used as a vehicle to promote division and exclusion.

Star Trek never had a diversity problem. Star Trek TOS was about as diverse as it could be, and it felt so natural.. diidnt feel forced, everyone felt needed and used properly, it was awesome.

@TheConfidentAsian

2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly put.

Yeah I love star trek but this discovery is too woke ,what the heck is that all about? Its like they are trying to cram it down our throats. It puts me right off watching it and I love the sci fi stuff and great space ships it looks great but it is too woke so I hate it.

@TheConfidentAsian

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

They are using miniorities as a shield from criticism. If anything this show is a disservice to the communities it is trying to represent because it casts good actors in to bad roles.

I'm just glad the person saying this is not a white male or he would just be attacked for that.

Great critique very spot on and I totally agree. I remember getting home from skrool and watching TOS and it broke boundaries but they did it intelligently. Discovery had Stacy Abrams as World President, enough said where the writers come from.

I just finish S1 in Netflix. 3 things I really had difficulties to cope with. Spoilers! 1. Michael Burnham. There's too many opinions about why she sucks, I am just gonna skip this. 2. Ash Tyler. I can't understand this logic defying character at all. How would a person who send to infiltrate Starfleet, whom was supposed to exert vengeance on Michael then ultimately "switch side" and even fall in love with MB???? The only parallel I can relate with = Ivana Humpalot, a character in Austin Power that was send to kill Austin Power then fall in love with Austin because he's too awesome???? And Ash was even worse than Ivana, at least Ivana didn't have the luxury of witnessing his friend / mentor / boss (T'Kuvma) killed by Michael. 3. The Last 2 episodes of S1. That ending of Klingon War was so stupid that I can't really take the show seriously anymore... Who's L'rell? How can she just took over as Councilor? Because she's holding the WMD provided by their nemesis and the whole High Council just "kowtow" to it? Well, they totally fuck up on Klingon any way. They changed the East Asian look in TNG-DS9 era to this current tribal form in Disco. In real world scenario, that would be some random woman took a remote and told the Sheikhs of Saudi Arabia that either you let me took over as national leader or I ll made all ur oil disappeared.

Time to RUMBLE Mr Elliot👊🇺🇸👊 Time to LAUGH😝😝😝

.I gave the trailer a chance , but I doubt that after the Original, Generations, DS9 and Voyager , Discovery will measure up.I may watch a few eps to see where it goes at some point FAR in the future!

I enjoyed season 1 and 2. I will re watch them with your thoughts in mind . Ty for your points.

You forgot to mention the over use of sarcasm. Lower ranking officers speaking sarcastically to higher ranking officers would never stand in any Star Trek series (INCLUDING THE MIRROR UNIVERSE). They would be dismissed, confined to quarters, relieved of duty or told "A word in my ready room, please." The sarcasm on these shows are not humorous in any way. They're out of line and disrespectful. And one other oddity. Why do they feel the need to make some sort of emotional speech in every scene like they're about to die or something. If you cut all that out, it would easily remove 30 minutes and give the show a more balanced pacing. Discovery has some REALLY awesome science fiction story lines but sadly they're always drowning in some unnecessary bullshit monologue that means less than nothing.

@dickhardpicard

Жыл бұрын

Noooo bones was never sarcastic 🤦

Yep!! The lesbian engineer is one of the best characters in the show and yes, they´re wasting the good doctor...

Then there is an fact that 900 years past officers can fit into future 3000 year star fleet.

I don't even give a shit not having straight males, I got more problems with no seeing more aliens. Where in the world is my fellow Andorian, Vulcans, Tellarites blah blah blah at? Hell, a vulcan captain would be awesome just to see how he manage a ship full of emotional beings

I agree 💯 I'm a big fan of Star Trek I got the Paramount app just for Discovery and Picard I got to season 2 of Discovery and found that they are trying way to hard to be woke, you pointed out everything that I found wrong as I watched it I probably will try to at least Finnish the season. my opinions may not mean much ( white straight Man) but it feels like Discovery doesn't even want me as a fan after this show.