Star Ocean: The Second Story R - 1:1 Graphics Comparison VS 1998 & 2008
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3 decades of a classic Sci-fi RPG, compared with 1:1 matching footage, including combat!
Instead of matching it to the trailer's editing this time, I decided to splice both announcement trailers together to group them into scene types.
There are two reasons for this:
- First, the trailers cut rapidly between 3 major scenes at the start of the game. It's just easier to see this way.
- Second, I can't obtain footage from the mid-game on short notice, so I don't include it. This is because Star Ocean 2 is longer than Live A Live, has two starting characters, branching, missable party members and scenes, and two whole versions of the game on top of all that.
New game and end-game footage is much easier to obtain, since I only need to record for a few hours with an old clear save.
0:00 FMV & Titles
0:27 Character Select
0:32 Early Game
1:08 Combat Moves
1:47 Late Game
If you've read this far, please comment and like on whether you'd like an updated version of this video, with the missing mid-game footage (approx. 45 seconds of scenes and companion quests out of 2:40 minutes).
【SEE ALSO】
My Live A Live 1:1 Comparison: • Live A Live Trailer - ...
【SOURCES】
Nintendo Direct June 2023 Trailer: • STAR OCEAN THE SECOND ...
Japanese Announce Trailer: • 『STAR OCEAN THE SECOND...
Asian (English) Announce Trailer: • STAR OCEAN THE SECOND ...
【CAPTURE】
The captures are emulated with appropriate screen simulations.
PSX version is a capture of the PAL version (Europe 50/25fps) with a CRT Bloom filter.
PSP version was captured with all upscale filtering and smoothing disabled.
#SO2R #StarOcean #comparison
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Aaah here we go, the KING has returned!!!! Grew up on this one! So the nostalgia is real. To quote Jackie Chiles: [It's] real... and it's *spectacular*.
Pears into Peaches!
@Mr.Armstrong9999
Жыл бұрын
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@kaizoku8087
11 ай бұрын
POISON POISON POISON PILLS!
Looks incredible. Star Ocean 2 was so underrated.
@B.G.Jeikki
9 ай бұрын
Yes its best ps1 rpg games at that time better than any ff game.
I hope they make a sequel with the same universe this is my favorite star ocean
@kaizoku8087
11 ай бұрын
@@ClumsyCatgirlYES
@Cyril86
11 ай бұрын
I guess you mean with the same characters? All the Star Ocean games do take place in the same universe, just with alot of time passing between them, and no shared characters. Except for Blue Sphere on the Gameboy Color, which is a direct sequel to this, like @ClumsyCatboy said.
@Keyh
10 ай бұрын
All of the Star Oceans are in the same universe. It's not like Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy
@pt8292
10 ай бұрын
There is an anime Star Ocean EX based on this game and a manga too. Both end in the same place but a drama CD (you can find a subbed version on YT) continues the story and has a different ending than the game does.
@Cyril86
10 ай бұрын
@@pt8292 The anime is pretty bad, though.
The 1998 version looks amazing for it's time. It looks outdated but retains that innovative feel that holds up.
Upon further review, I've found two mistakes in the video: At 0:50 and 0:54 I recorded it in Claude's playthrough. The trailer is actually using scenes from Rena's perspective - the ball of light is from her opening, and Rena gets attacked from the left in her game, and the right in Claude's. (I've started new games of Rena and have the correct footage now, but getting all the optional cutscenes for an updated video is not easy, so no promises.)
@kaizoku8087
11 ай бұрын
You have the game already? :v
@EiriSanada
11 ай бұрын
@@kaizoku8087 I was referring to the older games. I have the PAL PS1 version (different translation from the US version) and the PSP version. I will say that I have not actually played the game for footage over the last month, so a Version 2 of this video is delayed.
@kaizoku8087
11 ай бұрын
@@EiriSanada Ah I see. I hope that they finally will allow for us to swap active & reserve characters during battle like in Star Ocean 4!
PSP got anime cutscenes. They won for me. I like the new graphics sure but they took out what makes so2 memorable for me. I said for me. Not everyone has same feelings for it. I just love anime cutscenes similar to how tales does it back then.
I might be old cause i still like the look of the PS1 game more. I will say that the new version has better character art then the PSP verion, i never liked how child lke they made them look in the PSP. Also the new 3d environments look ok, but theres just something about the originals 3d rendered backgrounds.
@Wiseman108
Жыл бұрын
The original enviroments and background had character, something the remake's 3D environments seem to lack. It's like comparing a dense small open world to a big empty open world.
Looked good then, looks good now. This is shaping up to be one of the all time best remakes!
For me, this game is going to be epic. When I first heard, the day of the announcement, about a remaster, I thought “ Ah cool “. Then I saw it. That turned into an “Ah Yeah!!” Lol
I noticed in the PSP version they changed Rena's age for 18 but now in R they reverted back to 17... Odd
@utopua4all
11 ай бұрын
They pretty much HAD to change her age... the art made her look too freaking young. There's a term for how she looked, but I'm not going to say it. Man, the PSP art was horrendous.
@zikriflanery7030
10 ай бұрын
I actually like the psp artstyle better. Claude was supposed to look like a beta because of the plot reason where he got insecure with Dias. For Rena I like the PSP art better. But for plot reason it's just too creepy because she looks like a child.
@utopua4all
10 ай бұрын
@@zikriflanery7030 I probably should clarify here. I don't like the PSP art but I'm actually not super gung-ho on the original PS1 art either. I think it was better, but I don't think it was stellar. I don't have nostalgia googles when it comes to the OG art. I think the this remake probably stuck the right cord.
@F_Yale
9 ай бұрын
@@zikriflanery7030 Cope. The art was dogshit. That's all there is to it.
Really good comparison!
I kinda like the PSP one the best. The newer one looks weird and wrong.
@kanzakikoijiro7466
11 ай бұрын
I agree with you, I prefer a character design from PSP version
@dbrikashabukshan8673
9 ай бұрын
You can only improve a 3d area so much before the point where having 2d sprites makes your game look like shit
The original pre rendered backgrounds were amazing works of art. The asset store UE4 generic forest combined with carboard sprites in the remake looks ridiculous in comparison.
@FuIIDiveVR
8 ай бұрын
Yep. All the dungeons just look like generic assets. Phynal actually looks unique in the orignal.
I like how psp is literally an anime cinematic 😂😂
Excellent editing job
1:53 Oh yeah, the Synard origami plane thing on the right!
Can’t believe we will be stuck with the Weiny voiceover of second evolution for the remake 😢
Lovely to see the comparison between the 3. So far, the remake is the best in terms of visual performance. For artwork, I like the new artwork from the remake in contrast to the cutesy artwork of the seemingly PSP version. The artwork and the way dialogue of each character feels like the original Valkyrie Profile with a bit of polish! With this, I am HOPING Valkyrie Profile gets a new lease in life since Star Ocean was remade! :D Just hoping :P
@LongHoang88884
Жыл бұрын
Rather have them working on Chrono Trigger , the original Xenogears and Legend of Dragoon.
@nelieltu9730
11 ай бұрын
Nah Valkyrie profile deserves the same treatment as much as those.
@pt8292
10 ай бұрын
they already ported Profile to PS6
I don`t hate the PSP look (although the character art does seem a bit generic to me), but i think both the PSX original and the remake blow it out of the water.
@dbrikashabukshan8673
11 ай бұрын
My only gripe : They made all the environments look much better, reworked every model and area entirely to make it look much better, but still kept the 2d character models which makes everything look like a ds game
I. Can't. Wait.
I'm still wishing for a proper SO3 remake/remaster.
i cant wait !!
Looking at the co larasion, you'd swear your looking at 2 different games alltogether. Can't wait fir SO2, as it was my most favourite entry in the series.
useful video
the orignal had the best anime artwork, the best music, the best UI design and the best voice acting. they should have allowed people to keep all of these in the remake.
Star Ocean Second Story R is also coming out on PS4 and PS5
Does anyone know if they fixed the odd dialogue between characters that can sometimes take place if you have too many party members? In the original, I noticed especially that the dialogue makes a lot more sense if you only have Rena and Claude in your party.
@deadkold
8 ай бұрын
Imim not sure but there is a part of story telling called "private scenes" where it removes members to interact with side stories. I never played the original so i cant compare but the remake on it's own is fantastic imo
@keithtorgersen9664
8 ай бұрын
That isn’t quite what I am referring to. One example I will use without spoilers- late in the game, Rena discovers a huge secret about her heritage. If Claude is the only party member that you have, her dialogue with him is much different with him than if you have other party members with you.
@deadkold
8 ай бұрын
sorry I have no clue ._.@@keithtorgersen9664
Man i liked the anime style from evolution i wish they kept that in. I get maybe they are trying to show they are different from the Tales Of games. I like the new art style but wish the anime was still there like if they did the cutscenes at least like that ):
Man on one hand I love what they’re doing but on the other it loses so much of its charm in translation.
This is one of the best JRPG Remakes I have ever seen one remake that might top it is MARIO RPG though I never played Mario RPG but from what I saw it’s the same game but with updated graphics no change in battle system or story like GARBGE FFVII
But are we able to swap characters from reserve to active during battle like in SO4? :v
This remake ..... looks so god damn good.
Damn, now PSP looks the least appealing. Really love the new art.
Hell yea!
I prefer the PSP tbh, the art looks like tales of series art, and the character art feel more better, show more poses and show more emotion than the new remake
@sanictheedgehog
8 ай бұрын
The psp art looks horrendously ugly and poorly made. Like literally it's just a simple outline with paint bucket job with an ugly moe blob art style. It's just garbage. The 90s version and the new version look so much better.
@primetime645
8 ай бұрын
@@sanictheedgehogThe “outline with paint bucket” job is the charm. Not everything needs realistic shading/rendering. It looks a lot more vibrant and colorful than some edgy Batman movie. It’s also closer to what you’d see in animation because trying to animate the other two art styles would be a nightmare. It’s calling cell-shading trash vs. realistic graphics, or One Piece art bad over something like Psycho Pass.
RIP PSP version, we never got you on Switch
Should do Valkyrie profile in this style
I nvr notice they have PC version 😮😮😮. Like Asthon quote after win battle "Im soooo happpiiiiieee!!!"
Unfortunately the remake is missing cutscenes
Is the PSP art was drawn by the same person that draws for Tales game? It looks very similar, and tbh star ocean to me is basically Tales of in space lol
Just wanted to point out. At the beginning of the video in the corner it shows pc and switch. Well this is definitely coming to Playstation to.
I actually like the Remake's art style better so far. The PSP remake's art makes it seem like they were trying to copy Tales of Vesperia bar for bar, flow for flow.
There's also the PS4 version to consider, the one that wasn't translated.
@EiriSanada
Жыл бұрын
Fortunately, that's just Second Evolution running in 1080p. The original PSP resolution of 272p made it quite ugly, but the only differences appear to be high resolution anime and a replacement opening song: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6yil6mGoc3Lf6w.html
Ya know what game needs this treatment? Golden Sun.
I PREFER the cartoony/anime looking ones from PSX/PSP am I just old now?
Never played it but I like the anime cutscenes from the PSP
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I always find 3D backgrounds with 2D characters jarring
Valkyrie profile should make the same move but with better combat like star ocean
You forgot to say that it also on PS4/PS5 also with the pc/switch version … but maybe you did this video before square enix also announced it on PS4/Ps5
Wow. The ps1 version looks amazing for its time. Still looks better, more character.
I surely can't be the only one who's beyond excited for the remake? Usually with remakes I'm just like, "that's cool", but SO2 was one of my favourite RPGs growing up and seeing it done justice like this is incredible. The 3D environments alone are great, to say nothing of the lighting, camera angles and other visual effects, but also the changes to the battle system almost make this feel like a completely new game while still feeling very familiar. I'm confident that all but the most stubborn and cynical will be converted if they play the demo. If I have one minor complaint, it's that I wish they kept the 3D models of the items especially during item creation, but I understand that would have been a lot of extra work. All in all, November can't come soon enough.
Definitely invest in this game 300hr+ 😂 like when i was a kid
Its so weird how the first game "remake" use the psp as a base with barely any changes graphically... but the 2nd one js completely different.
@manoharalisa5829
9 ай бұрын
It is remaster not remake.
@thedragon12
8 ай бұрын
@@manoharalisa5829 with the graphics changed, its a remake...
Olá bom dia olha sou fã demais de Star Ocean mais vendo a cagada que a Squareenix acabou de fazer tirou a parte mais legal do game a essência do personagem e deixar Pixilizado poxa por quê não deixou tudo perfeito??ou foi de propósito
I honestly prefer the art style of Second Evolution over Second Story R. Second Story R is overly detailed, in my opinion. It's not bad, just distracting. Second Evolution, on the other hand, is simpler and cleaner, it looks like it could be from an anime.
@sanictheedgehog
8 ай бұрын
Psp art looks really ugly, It's horribly dated and really out of place, especially compared to the ps1 and remasterd version
@keiichimorisato98
8 ай бұрын
@sanictheedgehog the PS1 art is horrible, what are you even on? The PSP art looks like it could be airing on Crunchyroll today.
too bad they f'd up the camera during combat or R would of been perfect
Abstractly I understand why some folks here prefer the PSX or PSP versions since I’m the same way with preferring the original Spyro games to the way the Reignited games look. I can’t join y’all literally whatsoever here though. R has to be one of the handful of best looking games I’ve ever seen imo, even from just the short trailer.
@Akihito_Kanbara
Жыл бұрын
The backgrounds are gorgeous. And the character models are nice, but the characters are jarring. I'm wishing they had made the characters less sprite-ish.
Hmmm i like cutscenes psp it is!
will the 2023 remake keep the same voices from the original? my biggest gripes with other remakes have been theyve used new voice acting with super strong over-the-top american accents, similiar to some dubbed anime, and its so grating
The R version is so breath taking. The remake and the graphics.
хочу хочу хочу
I've heard of remakes and reboots, but this is a remix.
Seeing it like this, I really don't like the new character sprites. Don't get me wrong, they're nicely made, but they stand out TOO MUCH from the gorgeous backgrounds.
@BIGREDXXXL
Жыл бұрын
I feel like that was intentional on the devs part, like theyre trying to nail down like what octopath did with its artstyle
Nice rena back to not looking like a loli😂
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japanese or english voice better?
@laurensiusariefrahman8194
11 ай бұрын
Idk cause i nvr used japan voice lol
High-definition mosaic
At least they got rid of the PSP artwork. It was freaking trash, Rena did NOT look 17/18.
I forgot how vile the PSP artwork was.
@FuIIDiveVR
9 ай бұрын
It matches the original SO1 version psp art but I can see why some don't prefer it.
So much is going to be lost because of the changes in the environments. The Pre-Rendered backgrounds were actually great, and now they are gone. The 3D environments aren't bad but they just don't give off the same vibe as the originals. It looks like Square is ripping out the heart and soul of the another game in the name of modernization. I feel like once people get over the original wow factor they will end up going back to the original over this remake. Voice acting, character art, movies, and combat all seem to be improved. The music will be hit or miss, hopefully they provide the option to use the original soundtrack. I still want them to add the original PS1 version to the PS Classics lineup.
@Lord00022
9 ай бұрын
At last, I find some people who think like me. This remake seems to improve very well the combat system (after trying the demo), the portrait art is way better than the psp version for me. They looked like they were 12-14. most of the cast is in fact already adult, or approaching adulthood I disliked the old remaster's portraits. My main grip is the new 3D art in general, it seems so bland, so generic. The colour palette in the shingo forest or in the kross cave is so different and not in a good way. It's less detailed in a lot of parts. The tiny docks INSIDE the houses in Arlia have disappeared for example, the atmosphere of the kross cave is just not there anymore. Star Ocean 2 is losing a big part of what made its charm, made it unique and sadly, it appears it's not nostalgia gnawing at the back of my neck. (I absolutely cannot complain about the new background during combat though.)
@FuIIDiveVR
8 ай бұрын
Yes, the effect wears off after 10+ hours. I started to notice patterns and dungeons with lazy design or generic asset. The original was crafted and this one is just a copy.
WOW! basically the remake looks like how i remember it but it never acutally looked like that! what an incredible remake!! i am blown away! sadly ashtons voice actor was misscast! and the nerfes on the killer moves are insane!! Claud's best move is metor palm now! mirror blade is awefull! ripper blast/rock explosion is also way worse but still usable i guess! sword of life is really good now! dragon roar also nerfed into the ground! knuckel burst the only good shield breaker. Precis fucking rules! Opera as OP as always. welch hits like a truck but only got 2 good moves and gets boring really fast. ernest is greate now!...wtf! still dislike his personalty and the voice does not help and the things he says DIas got the nerfed into the ground. Ashton as well. chisato is realy weak now! noel...well. shit as always. bowman = no precis so NO!! cecil, rena and leon are mages ... only good at that new support mechanic to cast spells instantly.
Its a waw....
I prefer 2008 design Character
Growing up in the 90's, PS1 jrpgs are beautiful and nostalgic to me. I'll always prefer the original. I'm also really tired of the pop-up book art style remakes, it's very overused and it doesn't look right with many of these games. The only good one was the Live A Live remake. All that being said, I am happy though that recently Square is finally putting in effort to keep these old classics alive for the younger crowd.
Oh god, those PSP graphic sprites look like loli characters.
Rare moment where the remake is actually better than the original
It should be a crime to play this game in any other language other than the OG japanese track.
I don't like the direction the Remake is going. 😰 This is not how I imagined a Remake would be. 😩 I know that the Remakers wanted to retain the same Sprites, but they look out of place with the new Backgrounds. At least make them HD or better yet, Modern 3D Polygon!
@kenzie1989
11 ай бұрын
Yeah it's because they're using a different engine if you're familiar with that other RPG game from Square Enix octopath that's where it's from.
@ElricSowrd
11 ай бұрын
@@kenzie1989 Y-yeah, right. If this is the direction Square Enix is going with their RPGs, they're out of control. 😒
Didn't play psp version but those artworks look so cheap
The character art from the psp version is really disgusting looking. Like the most generic run of the mill soulless moeblob garbage art style pulled out of a trashcan. I can use more buzzwords but It would just be beating a dead horse. The original art and the New art look great though. I prefer the orginal backgrounds to the ugly Unreal HIRE THIS MAN full 3D background but they aren't a deal breaker either.