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@Its-kate56

2 ай бұрын

Boxhill please 🥺

@Midlandpullmanp

2 ай бұрын

Could you try other a4s like sir Nigel Greasly and bittern?.

@dutydruidfilms11

2 ай бұрын

737!

@DavidScholz-bu1ix

2 ай бұрын

AEROLITE!!!!!!!!!

@ThatScottishAtlantic57

2 ай бұрын

Lode Star

My Dad was a Fireman on the LMS during WWII and always said the Black 5s were his favourite Locos. Crazy father joined the Royal Marines at War`s end, serving for 30plus yrs. He rarely spoke of his experiences apart from Bacon and Eggs cooked on his Coal Shovel (our Roast Chestnuts were prepared similarly!).

As an American, this series is honestly so fun to watch. Being able to see the differences between our large, superpower designs such as our Lima Berkshires and the Big Boy to the more simplistic/austerity designs you folks have in England never fails to amaze

@TrevorMcGregger

Ай бұрын

You Americans really did go overkill with those giant black steam trains chuffing thousands of miles while spewing out big black smoke I shall say

As if we didn't know already, Henry from The Railway Series gets rebuilt from a technical failure and enigma to this remarkable, versatile and unstoppable utilitarian beast.

So glad this series is back.

This a great example of the designer getting it just right. I'm glad you explained the absence of the brick arch, the earlier clip had me scratching my head. Great to see you back on the channel, I look forward to a lot more.

I guess the class 47 is the diesel equivalent of the black five? I remember getting a Hornby black five for Christmas in 1973 and had it for many years! That was a real work horse too!

G’day Anthony from Oz. My favourite Black Five is (4)4806 because it was built in my home town of Derby in 1944 when my Father was employed in the Loco Drawing Office and I was a little kid. When it was based at Llangollen Railway I spent some of my volunteer time assisting with the maintenance work also a bit of firing along the LR Line. As you know I now reside in Oz and spend five days a week volunteering on the Puffing Billy Railway near Melbourne. When visiting the UK I also visit the TR and NYMR; as you know 4806 is now based at Grosmont where on a couple of recent visits enjoyed a Cab Ride. I thoroughly enjoy your excellent video episodes, well done! Cheers, Puf’n-Pete

@anthonycoulls7301

2 ай бұрын

Cheers Peter, always good to hear from you

Hi from Lostock Hall (10D), Black fives matter.

Great job of showing off the beautiful Black 5, I managed to get to see several one afternoon at Bletchley in 1967, along with the 8fs and so on. They were the heart and soul of British railways to the end. I’m building one in 4mm/foot!

My granddaughter was in the cab last week, nice loco! she visits Locomotion at least once a week

Love the Black Fives, and the detailed tour!

@DavidScholz-bu1ix

2 ай бұрын

DITTO!!!!!!!!!

Built a 2 1/2 gauge live steam model . Only took 7 years ! A very handsome engine .

Love the Black 5s

Oh wow... thank you -my favourite locos of all time . (45212 and me go back a long way....) I used to walk from home down to Edge Hill with my younger brother; the guys were quite happy to talk to us as long as we stood in the safe public places, and they'd explain what we were looking at. They were a bit surprised to see a girl there, (this was around 1957) but although I was the one who was dragged there, I was the one who ended up getting hooked. We saw Black 5s, 8fs, 9fs, lots more; my ambition now is to take my grandkids on the Jacobite - if they get it running again this year - they don't understand my fanaticism, but they're happy to humour Grandma. Thanks for the explanation of the cut off, BTW, I've never understood it before.

If definitely trim these down to shorts to get people in the door as well! I love the long form video and it deserves more views!

Thanks for a new episode. I've been fascinated by the design of British engines since I was young many decades ago. You can see a sort of "family resemblance" between them, the blower Bentley, and the Spitfire.

Always fully explained for the layman, but also sufficiently technical for more enlightened types. Well done!

@anthonycoulls7301

Ай бұрын

Thanks for that, I do try!

I loved how there were so many they could mess about with them, like trying out Caprotti valve gear and outside Stephenson valve gear.

Terrific! I shall have to watch it again. I really liked your use of a car's mechanisms as metaphors. Looking at the film footage of both manufacturing, operating and maintaining the steam engines made me wonder if such skills would be easily recreated in modern Blighty. I think perhaps not.

Very nice tour. My father fired 5's, 8's and Garrett's on the LMS. He sure had some interesting stories.

Yes, an excellent series, well presented. Why not review a classic example of each of the Big 4's plus a couple of BR Standard locos in your collection, but avoiding the likes of FS, Green Arrow, Mallard, Duchess etc?

@sglenny001

2 ай бұрын

He's done the Mallard before

Thanks Anthony for another Great Video.

@anthonycoulls7301

2 ай бұрын

You're welcome Alan, we always have a lot of fun doing these

When the former Great Central route fell under Midland auspices in 1958, there was considerable resistance to the Black 5, with drivers preferring the similar 4-6-0 B1. How much of this was company loyalty and familiarity, and what was practical advantage is hard to say.

Thanks for the video. I remember seeing 5000 at the Severn Valley Railway as a child.

As a seventy five year old who used to explore the North East LNER system in the 50s, I have goosebumps, watching the developments taking place on our other great railway systems.

I remember reading about Stanier replacing the brick arch overnight in the USA on Coronation with water in the boiler and the firebox still very warm.

Great to see you back! It’s an impressive loco, and it was very interesting to hear you explain the controls and to get an unobstructed view of the interior of the firebox.

Did you know that this is Henry in real life from Thomas & Friends?

@neiloflongbeck5705

2 ай бұрын

Only after being sent to Crewe after his accident with The Flying Kipper.

@DavidScholz-bu1ix

2 ай бұрын

​@@neiloflongbeck5705INDEED!!!

@DavidScholz-bu1ix

2 ай бұрын

​@@neiloflongbeck5705MY OWN OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL COMPLETELY THOUGHTFULLY THOUGHTFUL THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!!!!

@cjstrader8171

2 ай бұрын

Who doesn't?

Great videos, being here in Australia, it is excellent to have the curator with a camera to allow me a detailed look at your locomotives. Ray.

@NatRailwayMuseum

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy them! Thanks for watching, we've got an exciting year of videos ahead

Thank you for another great video!

After all my house moves across the country since the 1960s, I still have my Cl.5 chimney in the garden. I bought it from Cohens on the old Loddington branch near Wellingborough for £3.10.0 (£3.50). The RCTS Railway Observer could only give the numbers of a few Cl.5s that were delivered at that time, so I don't know its exact number.

Excellent, thanks very much.

Excellent video 👏👏👏

Great to see this series back!!

Another cracking video in this series , thank you .

That was great. I always learn something on these videos. Looking forward to the next one.

Great workhorse simply and beautifully explained, thanks

i do love the black 5 my local nymr has two 45428 and 44806

@DavidScholz-bu1ix

2 ай бұрын

Speaking of 448O6 scientifically, that L M S class 5MT black five steam-driven 4-6-O type of steam-driven railway tender locomotive certainly was basically featured in my own official DVD titled the Best of World Steam alongside 454O7 alongside 45231 over in the Great Britain section narrated by Peter Fairhead himself respectfully.

Love a Black Five!

Most enjoyable.

Interesting and informative video, especially as it named components within the firebox itself. Thank you.

Great looking engines, I loved the later Caprotti versions.

if people want to learn to fire a steam locomotive, they can watch this LMS training film "little and often" - some clips were used in this video, but it gives a nice insight into what the LMS expected of it's firemen. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eGh-lNmcdLOZiaQ.html

The black five is my favourite engine❤

Very educative video, as usual from the NRM. Thank you very much! I had an enormous intellectual and aesthetic pleasure. Please, continue with this important work. If possible, please, observe British locomotives which were designed/built for use on foreign railways.

An amazing video , sometimes i park in the asda carpark Crewe and stop and think of what Crewe Works achieved, this black 5 is but one example. Crewe works must have been an enormous factory !

Nice to see you back. The map at 0m47s, well so many changes. PAD/RDG/BRI missing? Bath to Templecombe still there. Fun stuff after 43 years of railway work, and now back to the Black 5 and your enthusiastic knowledge. Collett I once worked in Room 37 of Collett House in Bristol during the good times. The George Jackson Churchwood naming has to be the strangest nameplate on a class 47. (47079) in the 70's when I was a mere trainspotter. 225 psi. Atmosphere or Bar? About 15.5 Bar/15.3Atm A little bit of pressure there.

The Black 5 is by far my favourite loco. I have ten ‘oo gauge models running on my railway layout.

Black 5 one of my favourite engines...What next?? Let me think..

If you could only have one class of steam locomotive, it would be the Black 5.

Watched those in the 1960’s around Lancaster and Yorkshire.

Great insight into a lovely engine Black 5's are lovely engines. Could you do a look into the DP1 please.

That driver we first saw looks very much like a Marylebone driver in the early 60 s we used to call him countdown.

I remember seeing them lined up at Marylebone station! And being chased by one near harrow on the hill station, me in an A 60 metropolitan train!

Hopefully the 5000 cab demonstrations will set a trend so that we’ll be able to stand in the cabs of other locomotives in the National Collection. At Shildon alone there’s Hardwicke, NER M1 No. 1621, the Super D and Winston Churchill. I’d love to stand in their cabs.

William stanier : your spécial mixed-trafic (he say to the black 5) you can pull coaches and freight trucks kind easy.

Will 5000 ever steam again ? It lovely to see static locos but they are living breathing fire needs the rails to run

can anyone tell me the origin of the b&w mainline footplate footage? I had it on a VHS when I was a kid, would love to see it again in full

SINCE WHEN DID YOU GUYS GET A BLACK 5 IN THE COLLECTION, welp. ik where i need to go again eventually

@NatRailwayMuseum

2 ай бұрын

Just make sure you go to Shildon and not York. :) 5000 has been a much-admired exhibit at Locomotion in Shildon for more than 10 years.

@summer_stanier

2 ай бұрын

@@NatRailwayMuseum that'll be why i dont recall seeing her, as ive only ever been to york

After retirement in 1967. What was 5000’s journey. Was it saved from Barry or did it go straight into the national collection?

@chrisoddy8744

2 ай бұрын

At a guess, straight into the NC as it's the "original" member of the class

Have you ever done Evening Star ?

@NatRailwayMuseum

2 ай бұрын

No, but we want to!

I sometimes wonder how many /subclass variants the Black 5s would have occupied, had they been LNER locos? Of course, the "Red5's" were Stanier's Jubilee class. If the Black 5s were equated with the GW "Hall" class, with what (if any) Swindon design would the "Jubes" draw comparison?

@PaulPower4

2 ай бұрын

Apparently (according to the Handbook of Classic British Steam Locomotives) a combination of the chassis of the LMS's existing Patriot class and parts of the Black 5. Which initially caused problems, as the 3-cylinder layout that the Jubilee inherited from the Patriot didn't combine well with the Swindon-influenced infrastructure up top. It took increasing the number of superheater elements to fix it.

One question I have is, is this the hall we are seeing in this video a public one? On my most recent trip to the museum I was excited to see the black 5, only for just the great hall and the North shed to be open, (Not a criticism or that it lessened our enjoyment for one minute) just wondering if we missed something? 😅

@NatRailwayMuseum

Ай бұрын

This episode was filmed at Locomotion in Shildon, well worth a visit, especially with New Hall opening next month

Withdrawn from Lostock Hall in 1967 and presented to the National Collection.

so how many are left?

Where exactly was this area? When I was there last week, I only saw Scotsman and the entrance area with Mallard, Duchess of Hamilton, Copperknob, Sterling Single No1 and others

@NatRailwayMuseum

2 ай бұрын

This was filmed at Locomotion in Shildon, see the video description for details

@BrakeCoach_

2 ай бұрын

@@NatRailwayMuseum Thank you

Every time you said Stanier I keep hearing scania, though that's probably because I have been watching videos on scania but dam they almost sound the same.

Old metro car from the Tyne and Wear metro

Theres only one thing better than a Black 5... its 2 Black 5's

No way it’s Henry lolz

The Black 5 looks just like Henry from Thomas and friends

@voidjavelin23

12 күн бұрын

because henry IS infact a stanier black 5

What a Warehouse! Stephenson’s “Rocket” in the background.

@caroleast9636

2 ай бұрын

Well it is our National Museum ✔️🚂🇬🇧

I want to see cr 812 z

Is the island of sodor real ?

Henry's thomas and friends

There's just one real problem: They whistle way too much.

Hope it does not rain

We’re missing a few fish vans I see.

Whilst this wheel arragement is always going to appear unbalanced, no better looking 4-6-0 was made. Black 5s are probably the epitome of form follows function.

And Stanier somehow rebuilt a knockoff Gresley into a Black 5. As a Favour. For Sir Topham Hatt.

@LazyOldFusspot_3428

2 ай бұрын

Now Henry is as unstoppable as ever and bursting forth like the champion he really is.

Navvies engines !

I hope the NRM does a video on the GWR halls Hey what if when they show it they show the hogwarts express ;)

This is re-writing history. The term 'Black 5' was almost never used until well after steam was removed from BR. If you check the literature, magazines and photographs pre 1968, you will find absolutely no mention of the term, anywhere. The loco was referred to as a Stanier Class Five, or simply a 'Class 5'. I challenge the curator, or anyone at the museum to find the term 'Black 5' used in pre-1968 literature, or a single photo caption.

@wetcardie66

2 ай бұрын

the nickname for these engines locally (rose grove) was "mickey" as far as i remember...........

@garyfox1898

2 ай бұрын

We used to call them Blackies

@AndrewMcLean-gu6wq

2 ай бұрын

Challenge accepted! There are lots of references to "Black Fives" pre 1968. The Times obituary for Sir William Stanier published on 28 September 1965 is but one example. Here is an excerpt: "A prolific designer, Stanier produced a memorable mixed traffic engine...known familiarly as "Black Staniers" or "Black Fives"..."

@robertcross1441

2 ай бұрын

I was a train spotter late 50s and early 60 we always called them black 5s.

Aw hell nah they Americanized the LMS 💀

Premieres blow. Thumbs down.

"Went to make it up" - yes. "Went up to make it" - no.

@anthonycoulls7301

2 ай бұрын

Forgive my occasional poor spoken language, I don't always get it right, I am human after all

Dreadful building, grey, minimal and sterile. Could easily have been made to look like something from the steam era - say a typical locomotive shed or works. Such an opportunity wasted. In fact, every revamp of the NRM creates a dead atmosphere which is ever further removed from the original York shed - whereas it could be a great experience. Also, I'm afraid the commentary reflects the dull, lifeless exhibit. It is full of historical inaccuracy. The locomotive was known as a Stanier Class 5, or 'Class 5'. The nickname 'Black 5' only came into common usage during the post - steam era.

@NatRailwayMuseum

2 ай бұрын

We try to include useful info in the description, including filming location (Locomotion in Shildon for this episode) and an overview of the loco including its official name. Hope you stick with us as there are some great stories in the pipeline :)

@anthonycoulls7301

2 ай бұрын

Please tell me of my inaccuracies. I'm always interested to learn

@NatRailwayMuseum

2 ай бұрын

Just to clear up the usage of the "Black 5" name: from the 1958 Ladybird Book of British Railway Locomotives to the Times obituary of Sir William Stanier in 1965-and indeed the newspaper reports of the final steam operations of August 1968-the term "Black 5" was in common usage on the railways and amongst enthusiasts.

@stewartellinson8846

2 ай бұрын

You've already been picked up on the "Black five" comment - now you're moaning about the building. it's there to highlight the locos and enthuse people who aren't elderly moaners. Knock it off, please.

@gainsbourg66

2 ай бұрын

@@NatRailwayMuseum As I say, the term was almost never used until 1968. It may have appeared in a children's book but there is no mention of the term 'Black 5' anywhere in the railway literature, books, magazines, and photos. There are literally thousands of photos in hundreds of books depicting Stanier Class 5's. Show me even one in this genre that refers to the loco as a 'Black 5'. I would be surprised if you could find 1% doing so, or even ONE caption using the term pre. 1968. Yes, these days you will find almost 50% of the railway press using the nickname, but this amounts to a confabulation of the past which, seeing as you are a curator of a railway museum and now making historical videos, I thought you should be made aware of. It's a bit like making out that Argentians were refered to as 'Argies' by the general public during the Falklands War in 1982. Yes, the Daily Mirror and the Sun kept using the term but in reality, almost no one used the term at the time.

Brilliant engine, you gotta love GWR

Black Fives do what they say on the tin.