Stage 2 420cc ATV Swap! It RIPS!
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
We remove the seized stock Predator 420cc engine from our 2007 Polaris Hawkeye 4X4 ATV, and install the modified stage 2 Predator 420cc engine! We didn't want to open the engine case on the bad 420cc, because we wouldn't be able to return the engine to Harbor Freight, so we drained and inspected the oil. The engine oil was chunky! We installed the high performance 420cc engine, and Go Power Sports sent us a new belt that properly fit our custom 4 wheeler setup, and this custom ATV rips!
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I love how isaac always looks like the proudest dad watching jon ride stuff
@allenmckinney9533
5 жыл бұрын
He's old enough so you never know.
@Farmtractor
5 жыл бұрын
Allen McKinney how old is he
@Halliday7895
5 жыл бұрын
talk about a twist for april fools hahaahah @@allenmckinney9533
@Alfred..E..Neuman
5 жыл бұрын
He's like in his mid 40's...He could indeed be Johnny's daddy!!
@blodhgram373
5 жыл бұрын
@@Alfred..E..Neuman Really? Looks more mid 30's to me! wow!
These guys only have 2 engines but 500 frames of different makes models and configurations
All we need now is 4WD!
@isaiahbanks3801
5 жыл бұрын
U should put a motor bike engine in it.
@LuisRivera-vm4oc
5 жыл бұрын
I have a Go-Kart with a 500 Honda rebel on it
@LuisRivera-vm4oc
5 жыл бұрын
You guys inspire me you guys are awesome
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
5 жыл бұрын
Gonna need a bit more cc-age for that I think.
@olimayrand6277
5 жыл бұрын
You need to send 12v to the front differential it's a magnet weird system and the 4x4 should kick in (I have a 2004 600 Sportsman)
You have to tighten the secondary variator so that the belt is about 1 mm above the edge of the variator. The belt is way too low as it is now.
@warmfreeze
5 жыл бұрын
generally around 1.2mm but yeah...
@tomengman
5 жыл бұрын
was just going to say the same thing, with the belt riding that low in the driven clutch (secondary) the thing wont shift properly at all..
@guyaumegauvreau5543
5 жыл бұрын
They just need to change the Drive to have a wide strap
@niccadoodles
5 жыл бұрын
They leave chains too loose as well. You lose power and delivery like that.
I think you could get slightly more top end speed and low end torque if you move the engine back slightly and allow the belt to reach full travel on the cvt. At idle the belt should ride at the top of the pulleys, and be nearly bottomed out at full RPM.
@jordanbarakat7288
5 жыл бұрын
Mine at full speed on the clutch will be up a bit taller thane the clutch
@titanicwhiz
5 жыл бұрын
maybe a shorter belt instead of moving it? Idk
John if you start yanking the engines, you'll grow big and strong like Ike.
I've had those 250 and 300 Polaris ATVs up to 60-65mph.
@user-xv2iz7ix5o
3 жыл бұрын
No the 350 goes 55 and not even a 250 sport quad can do that
@sixtyfiveford
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-xv2iz7ix5o Here's a video of a warn out Trailblazer 250 doing 53mph. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pqKHrLqsori-h5s.html .
Looking forward to you guys increasing the performance, great work.
Can we get a go fund me page for Isaac's "rock paper scissors" skills
@Will-fr5du
5 жыл бұрын
It always seems like he loses everytime
@Technie87
5 жыл бұрын
We need a gofund me campaign so they can get some FCR Carbs for their projects. .
@Halliday7895
5 жыл бұрын
maybe johns a mind reader @@Will-fr5du
@zggsilvat5647
5 жыл бұрын
Love yalls voids keep up the good work
So Issac and John don't think we have forgotten about the Indy kart. I'm personally hoping it's because you are hunting down something special for the power plant. (like a power bee) Love the builds thanks for the content gentlemen.
@joshmeyer5280
5 жыл бұрын
I have a brand new power been never ran
@ricerneon399
5 жыл бұрын
Or the little rotary from built break reapeat
@jamesdellaquila1939
5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think they are because Jon literally said he doesn’t like a high powered 1wd go kart
@joeshmo2473
5 жыл бұрын
This channel is garbage now.
@blairinferno4675
5 жыл бұрын
It will be a 420 predaslow like everything this channel has done lately
When you cut the support for the cvt, now all the torque load is on the crank shaft end. Could be why the other engine gave out. Might want put some kind of support between engine and trans. If not, every time you apply power the crank is being pulled back on, putting a lot wear on bearings. Just a thought. Also like others have stated check for a high/ low on transfer case.
These re power vids are so damn cool, don’t throw it away, modify it and party on ! Cool vid guys thanks
I wasn't interested in the tires until Isaac started modeling them 👍😎🇺🇸
This would be perfect for the Ducati engine
@wafflingchief7781
5 жыл бұрын
Sam Dittmar yes😂😂😂, let’s only blow the transaxle
@wonkybomb1865
5 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSSSS!!!!
@whodatboi1543
5 жыл бұрын
Or 2 stoke snowmobile engine
Always fun watching your builds.
Great video fellas enjoy watching everyone y’all make 👌👌👌👌
Keep up the good work guys i love this build and the golf kart videos
Can't wait too go guys the Polaris looks sweet. Bring the gy6 yerf!!! I seen a glimpse of it awhile ago in a clip. 👍👍👍
@Vr6.christos
5 жыл бұрын
Sweeney Sweeney lol so did I
I love this build, doing the same thing to my sons quad when motor blows up , great job guys love your channel
Cool build. Nice to see what alternatives you come up with.
Bring back isaacs vtwin motor cycle
@luketeverino6085
5 жыл бұрын
He sold/traded it
@tacticoolcommando7305
5 жыл бұрын
@@luketeverino6085 that's so sad. It's a cheap street legal toy :/
my 400 polaris would do 50mph+ easy. I think you have some improvements to make, that should be faster than that. edited to say i think the pesron with the comment about not using the CVTs full travel might be on to something.
@andrewbottrell1048
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Something is up with the cvt.
@MrTheHillfolk
5 жыл бұрын
The travel thing could be an issue. And , whats the stock engine rev to, vs the 420 ? Id bet it revs alot higher than 3600-4k
@leonhosier3061
5 жыл бұрын
I think they may have had it in low gear.... I know my 500 sportsman had a low and high and my top speed in low was 35 my top was 55-60 I’m a big guy so could be different for them
@mrsmithers2002
5 жыл бұрын
Leon Hosier this was actually my first thought. But then I thought there was no way they wouldn't have known. At least I'd hope they knew there was a high and low.
@elijahspade3714
5 жыл бұрын
I have that exact hawkeye. They are geared to be farm quads. Mine barely does 30. Whereas my scrambler that is the same size does around 60.
Awesome project. Not in least crazy. Few of us can afford a new POLARIS anything. To take one ready for the bone yard and get it going again with an alternative engine gets us in the dirt as oposed to having nothing. I beats building one from scratch too.
Theres nothing like a friend who says "yes! I think we could do that. Everyone i know says "meh! To much work" sometimes its not about the hours put in.its about the hours of fun you get out of it at the end.
What oil do you use in your engines? Ive also had problems with these preds, some times you dont get lucky an china doesnt clearance the rod to the crank right which is more than likley why the stocker 420 froze up
Crazy how it sounds like a normal atv with that exhaust on it. Doesn't sound like a 420cc at all.
@aaronleblanc540
5 жыл бұрын
It sounds a little throatier than my sportsman 400 did when it still had stock exhaust, they just have to fix their clutches big time
@xfiringsquadx
5 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not understanding. Lots of ATVs come with engines this size and smaller. Why would it not sound like another ATV?
@badboyish90
5 жыл бұрын
RS7JR Polaris just has this one sound that others don’t have its hard to explain. Watch actual Polaris exhaust sound then this 😊
@BenaresDarkness
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely doesn't sound like a normal atv too much clanking going on it sounds like any other go kart to me.
The funny thing is to me it sounds just like the Polaris scrambler that's good Stuff....Nice job Guys
Man.. One of these days I'm going to build something and come out to play at one of your meets. The video from them always looks so fun!
"we got this 2017 Chevy Corvette, engine is fine" *let's put a predator in it*
@jadenmassey7882
5 жыл бұрын
DannySumo R. lol “ we have bought this brand new 2019 can am outlander 1000 and it just needs spark plugs so we are gonna put a 212 in it”
@philtripe
5 жыл бұрын
now your just being silly...they would definitely put four Predators in it, all under the hood with three jack shafts...i cant wait
@kevinmontoya7318
5 жыл бұрын
@@philtripe they were just making fun of the fact that cars and cameras puts predators to replace good engines that just need an easy fix, sure predators have torque, but no speed they where meant to be on a log cutter and wood chipper not on a go cart or quad
@dajiban9325
5 жыл бұрын
@@kevinmontoya7318 haha i think he is kidding too bro.
@dannyoutlaw8001
4 жыл бұрын
Haha haha haha. That's sooooo funny......m.
Iv been watching since the original rat rod wagon video I love this kind of stuff keep uup the good work
Was gonna try to attend this time around but just wrecked my baja 200 just yesterday and ripped my hamstring so wont be making it this time. But i have plans to attend one at some point. Great vid as always keep it up.
4:39 - 4:46 that noise !!! It reminds me of that 30's-40's cartoon when Mickey, Donald and Goofy are mechanics and Peg-Leg Pete makes them chase a squicking sound on his car ^^
It's about as fast as a 90cc children's quad. Not being an asshole.... but it's true Stock, I had my Explorer 300 up to 51 when I was a kid.
@Jayy-op5up
5 жыл бұрын
Morte Parla I think its governed so it can’t rev out plus I think this build is more for their torque.
@Sloppyjoe96
5 жыл бұрын
Morte Parla yeah the stock motor must have had a ton more power or it’s something to do with their power delivery
@cdiienno
5 жыл бұрын
Most likely it has some belt slipping still or it’s a weaker engine
@kasuraga
5 жыл бұрын
@@cdiienno they still have the governor hooked up so it's just not reving up as high as the factory engine. If they take off the governor and set it up for higher rpm it'll go TONS quicker. also, the factory engine for that atv spun up to 5000+ rpm from what I can tell.
@leeferrell6787
5 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah totally agree, really don’t know why they mess with these crappy engines
Random vehicle: Cars and Cameras : predator engine swap
This has been thus far my second favorit project coming after the dirtbike which i would like to see get finished.
I'm really gonna love this series its great
please tighten the valve lash on the 420.....
@Stanton_High
5 жыл бұрын
They SUCK at setting the proper gap, easily double over spec.
@joshmeyer5280
5 жыл бұрын
@@Stanton_High loosing a lot of power because if it
@joshmeyer5280
5 жыл бұрын
@@Stanton_High yep LOL. It's not just a little off either, I'd bet u could fit a penny or two between the rocker and valve tip
@joshmeyer5280
5 жыл бұрын
@@Stanton_High I don't even use feeler gauges on the small engines, do it by feel
@Stanton_High
5 жыл бұрын
@@joshmeyer5280 hahah same here!
End of the day it’s faster then a Walmart kart and has 4x4 and should have tons of low end so I say a win all around
@kevinmontoya7318
5 жыл бұрын
I'd bet you those cheap power wheels that kids drive are way faster and you can up the battery and get longer life and more speed
Yerfdog spiderbox is what it looks like. 4wheeler turned out nice, cant wait to see the next video on it.
that ATV runs pretty good nice job on that
Well... I guess the 420 engine blowup wasn't an April fools prank after all😂
Please build some mad max style bodywork for the atv! It looks so naked with no body
@Gizmo-ls8pp
5 жыл бұрын
Its naked and proud
I have a Polaris Hawkeye. Its a good atv i have done 45mph with the carburetor tuned perfectly.
I have a 2000 sportsman 335 and in high gear it tops out around 45mph so mid 30's is not a bad starting point. If it is like a lot of the other polaris quads the hard part will be getting the 4wd working as they use an electric controlled locking system in the front hub to engage and disengage with the front differential.
Can you guys use something different than a predator in that thing, how about the original one
@mattdunbar4829
5 жыл бұрын
Right
@wankerwithawankel
5 жыл бұрын
It would cost almost $800 to fix
@niccadoodles
5 жыл бұрын
They should just find a used motorcycle engine and throw it on. Way better than any predator engine.
I just wanna hear ike say "damnitt bobby" just once lmfao
I agree !!!!! the belt is to loose I had a 1999 scrambler 400 and had alot of problems with it smoking belts cuz the primary springs were worn out
Nice A spiderbox build!. Mine had a 420cc and it was a beast. I sold it to go to a 670cc powered Roketa GK-06 I'm currently working on. I wont make it to this Mini Mayhem but I'll be trucking down from Boston for the next one.
Hey name is alex watched all your videos really like em and all the info I only have one request if you guys could possibly do a x1 pocket bike engine swap cause you guys haven't have a pocket bike video and I think (ITLL BE FINE) lol
@psygn0sis
5 жыл бұрын
Don't EVER take advice from these guys! Go watch real mechanics that actually know what they're doing.
You should put the 900cc Ducati engine in it give that a rip
Awesome video guys keep it up.
This makes me want to install one of those on my 90s Honda 200 😍
Jon I almost dropped my fone when u said "2/10 of a mile 😂🤣😂🤣 in 35 yrs of living I've never heard some1 refer to distance that way .1/8 1/4mi 1/2mi 3/4mi maybe,,.. I'm using that tomorrow at work 😎😎👌👌
@BuildingWithZach
5 жыл бұрын
BighomieJ5x - in my 15 years of living I’ve never seen someone with that bad of grammar 🤣
@thomashowlett8295
5 жыл бұрын
In the olden days (before GPS), when giving driving directions we would use tenths of a mile, because car odometers were in miles and tenths of miles.
I swore that "blow up" was an April Fool's joke.
@fraggrenade7192
5 жыл бұрын
nah it siezed
@Gizmo-ls8pp
5 жыл бұрын
Why would they use a different engine though?
@bradleyj.fortner2203
5 жыл бұрын
I thought the same. Those metal flakes in the oil looked pretty real though.
Awesome Video!
It will do 50mph stock. Try doing a fmf/dg muffler its a little smaller and it won't resonate heat, and help with the race carb, you guys just keep doing great stuff,keep having fun guys!!!!!!!!!!
That polaris would go faster than 40mph stock cause i have a 150cc stock and i had it toped out 35 and if that had a 300 on it you looking about 50 60 mph
@xRamRacing
5 жыл бұрын
It's a 4x4. My polaris sportsman 500 goes around 50mph with 28" executioners
@daltonmorrison1917
5 жыл бұрын
My foreman 500 goes around 50 or 60 with 26 inch tires
@gavincrow7374
5 жыл бұрын
Fuck Polaris Don’t ask me a question!. I have my rights to say that. There not cheap hard k fucking work on they break with dumbass people that have 40” BKTs. Like cmon I ain’t fixing no Polaris wheelers anymore! Unless u gjve me 2k
@jake-qn6zy
5 жыл бұрын
@@gavincrow7374 Polaris is good everything breaks and you were in another comment section saying it was your dad that worked on atv's and not you
@gavincrow7374
5 жыл бұрын
dirt bike addiction Polaris is shit. Yeah we work together bud. We worked on one broke cuz Polaris is shit, fixed it, couple days later, broke again, shit isn’t cheap bud, try working on one yourself and see the prices with no discount or anything
Slower than a 150cc chinnese atv 😂
@henrynukari
5 жыл бұрын
yeah and a polaris makes well over 60 from the factory 😂
@cadenfinley877
5 жыл бұрын
Yea slower than my 150cc 4 speed offbrand atv what a horrible build
@dirtbikesrawseome
5 жыл бұрын
I bet it'll out climb your ATV it's meant for affroad not to be fast
@cadenfinley877
5 жыл бұрын
By the looks of it mine has waaaay more torque the only advantage he has is its 4×4 i bet mine will still out climb him i put huge bubbly wheels an tires on the back of mine there from a three wheeler
@fraggrenade7192
5 жыл бұрын
or maybe the sprocket isnt tuned for the 22hp it has? Ive had a chinese 150 and they have about 7-10 horses (brand). To think of it. This has more power than a blaster 250. With stage two and a fixed sprocket this atv will be a beast. This machine could be doing 60 no problem
Always love y'alls videos hope i can come hang out with yall one day
Crazy cool potential hope you have patience and get safe before u try riding this harder
look into a panzer garden tractor for a rear end for the rail
Isn’t it ironic how the video on the blown 420 was on April fools day?
This series made my subscribe
nice rebound guys!
Hey I’m 14 and y’all are the reason I built my own go kart
@DYLANTRIES
5 жыл бұрын
Keep it up bro you'll get very familiar with em and find what you like and what you dont
@crabtreemedia8169
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same here, I'm 12 and I just bought 4 gokarts and 5 engines for 250$, just got an 8hp Briggs to run too!
He just wanted to ride it before it got broke , man.
400 polaris in high range will run about 60mph on the road. I think around 38-40 in low. Back in 2003 a friend of mine had a 400 sportsman I think. But that thing will smoke the lifted go cart. Great video guys I’m a big fan of the show
Fuggin dorks i love you guys. Dont ever sell out.
Diesel lawnmower plz :D
@marshakrebs4348
5 жыл бұрын
6 giloo diesel anything in general
@dallasfingrocks
5 жыл бұрын
Ya then turbo it after with the 21mm turbo
I cant wait for the yamaha blaster video 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@brooksrohe7574
5 жыл бұрын
Unless they engine swap a predator lmao💀
I was getting good wheelies on a "lightly" modified Polaris MV7 700cc. I had to hold the brakes and rev to the brake limit, then punch the gas and release the brake. It would tail stand off the line.
Because my drive is 12+ hours, I'll be starting down about 5AM Friday morning, showing up Friday afternoon ~5pm. All I have is an old but customized Baja Warrior, w/stage 1 - 212, CVT, camo paint!
I think you guys are in low gear it should have a high as well
@gavincrow7374
5 жыл бұрын
Wyatt Yates predators only have low gear bud.
@wyattyates2045
5 жыл бұрын
@@gavincrow7374 no I'm saying the gears on the ATV usually there's forward high low neutral and reverse
@Southized
5 жыл бұрын
cmon man
Not to be the umpteenth person to say this but you guys should have rebuilt the Hawkeye 300 that was in it l
@bwxmoto
5 жыл бұрын
mhmadgenious they said it would cost $800 or something like that. not worth it.
@mhmadgenious
5 жыл бұрын
@@bwxmoto I call bs I rebuilt one of my dads for about 250
@mhmadgenious
5 жыл бұрын
@@bwxmoto Plus everything would have worked, the dash, the 4x4, and sooooo much more speed
@bwxmoto
5 жыл бұрын
mhmadgenious I’m sure all engines have exactly the same things wrong with them and require exactly the same parts to repair. So you must be right. 🤔
Hahahaha. Wow, I cant beleave that Isac lost again. And good luck at the Oregon play date. Was going to build somethi g to take and meet you guys but well, life happens. Sorry im going to miss you all. Enjoyed most all your build shows. Don.
Legend has it CnC`s responds to messages. One problem I see is your clutches are not matched. You have a 780 primary clutch with a stock Polaris secondary, change out secondary to a 780 or change primary to the stock Polaris clutch. On the secondary the top of the belt should be sitting in the groove flush or just about flush with the top of the pulley. This is maximum low end torque, right now your belt sits too low and youre losing low end torque and top end power because by the time the primary has fully ramped up at max rpm the belt has barely moved in the secondary...basically right now its like youre starting out in second gear (using a three speed gearbox for example) all the way thru your power band and then to third gear. Next off check belt tightness, you run a straight edge from where the belt sits at its lowest point in the primary to its highest point in the secondary and push on the belt at the middle. The deflection shouldnt be more than an inch +/- a quarter of an inch.
My 212 with stock carb and exhaust on my go cart is faster
Another slow lawnmower engine. Original motor would have been way faster. Fail.
Just a tip for changing the belt on it. Put a pry bar or screw driver between the secondary pulley and spread it open. Makes changing it so much easier. Won’t have to keep unbolting and bolting.
man glad you guys are sticking with those predators........
We have one from when I was a kid it could do 50mph down hill with the wind. The dealer also put heavier weights in the primary clutch
Isaac reminds me of Rickey Bobby from Talladega nights but a lot smarter. You guys rule btw.
I've topped one off at about 50 mph...Stock. Also there's a switch on the handlebars to switch into 4x4 you will need to hook up to get that going.
looking good model Ike!!!!
It's definitely not as fast as the stock engine, but it still looks fun and it's impressive you guys pulled it off.
Good stuff you guys hopefully more mini bikes thoa
Put a 670 hoped all the way up on the Polaris
I have that same yerfdog.. I like it a lot, but the person I got it from completely messed up the wiring. I have been getting headaches trying to fix how they messed it up (the cart runs, you just have to start it with a screwdriver). I'm looking forward to the videos on that cart. I hope you keep the GY6 in it.
This thing looks so fun I want one
More fun than it was when you got it!
That Jack shaft trofie looks real nice aka it's jacked
I wann know who does the filming?? Keep it up his I love your vids! About the only KZread channel I consistently watch!
Give some thought to either making a disconnect for forward drive shaft, or removing all together. Should add a few MPH
Love the videos you guys.You should turn it into a single seater rock crawler.
I think a 670 with stock clutch from fourwheeler would help if crankshaft size is same! Hell of a job tho! I want more power an want to go when i need to the chassis should be able to take it!
I have the polaris 440 4 stroke and it does about 45 mph max. Great job, I've been curious to see this happen. --buy a header flange! Get that clutch working right. It might look like it when there is no load, but I don't think It's working right. I would make that primary clutch engage Waaaaay earlier too. That engine should have the torque. I have a stage 3 420cc lifan in a buggy I built. It shreds from low rpm if I set the clutch that way. I think that 4x4 would be far more fun if you could go lightly as well.
😆😂😂😂😂 Isacc " why do you want to control the stereo and the TV volume at the same time... Cuz I like to party"
Was gonna say, We had luck through advance auto parts on tracking a belt down for a build we did. Delco told us they didnt make it, guess the belt manufacturer lol. But looks like you got that solve. Highly recommend putting a guard on the belt, tends to hurt a bit. We have a Polaris 250, but definitely does NOT have the 250 in it. Atm we're running 64mph, gotta do some gearing customization since Polaris doesn't go high enough. But looks stock, from a distance what we shoe-horned in there, is definitely not. Feel free to check out rednexcreations on here or Facebook. Kinda new to KZread but think you'll enjoy it a little
@bradehle7479
5 жыл бұрын
We get up to 64mph in like 2 seconds on grass.. so theres that plus side of the top speed lol.
Anyways great job on the vids guys keep it up
Just so you know there is a way to spread the secondary clutch apart to get the belts on and off