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Staccato C DUO Part 2 - with Sig ROMEOZero
We put 600 rounds through the Staccato C DUO with the Sig ROMEOZero 3MOA red dot sight. We look at function and accuracy. Were there any issues? Maybe. But probably not what you might think.
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Fantastic gun. I just listed mine for sale as I have not used it in sometimes.
Still in love with this pistol
@RidersRange
4 жыл бұрын
Richard - Absolutely.
Nice shooting!!! They are awesome pistols. Thanks for sharing.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
MDpolo, thanks for watching and commenting. I hope you and your family have an enjoyable Labor Day.
The results are tough to argue with. 👍 Thanks for Sharing! 👍👍👍👍
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Frank, once again, thanks for watching and for commenting. If this ammo shortage lasts more than a year or so, I’m going to have to dry-fire all the videos and just say where the guns WOULD have shot.
@frankbutta9344
3 жыл бұрын
Rider's-Range You are too funny! Sounds like a Monty Python skit. 👍👍👍👍
It shoots as you do nice combination
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
treesablowin, thanks. That gun/optic combination makes it easy.
Wicked review with even more wicked marksmanship skills on show. Doing some serious homework on this and both the P models...
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Angus, I have had many great shooting guns, but not much to compare to the Staccato C and P. I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the C2 DPO I have on order.
Great video once again. I was fortunate enough and very honored to be able to actually shoot this very pistol a few days ago. Yes Harley is that kinda of a person to allow me to try it out. I can say this pistol is awesome. With the optics it makes me look like a way better shooter than I am. Again thanks for giving me the opportunity to try this out. Now if I can only stop the bleeding in my wallet I just might be able to get one.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
John, as always, thank you for watching and for the kind words.
I just bought one. Can’t wait to get it.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Please share your thoughts once you have spend some quality time with it.
@tomlongbeard6071
3 жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange I definitely will. What magazines do you recommend? Thanks
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
@@tomlongbeard6071 so far, the Staccato mags have worked out just fine, but I also use Wilson and Tripp Research Cobra mags.
Amazing shooting sir 👍 Always enjoy your videos...
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Gerry, thanks for watching and for your kind compliment.
Another excellent review!
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
For the hell of it... I got 2 custom IWB holster being made. For my STi DVC 3-gun 5.5” and Shadow 2 with SRO and Streamlight. I’m also developing a 95g SP 9mm to make near 1900fps. Wish me luck!
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Gay Bear, I definitely wish you luck in the age-old debate about light and fast vs heavy and slow. And please let us know how it works out carrying the DVC or loaded up Shadow 2 IWB. I have a hard enough time carrying and concealing a 365xl or Staccato C, never mind a much larger pistol. Thanks, as always, for watching and for commenting.
@gaybear5328
3 жыл бұрын
Rider's-Range Stop pulling the old man card! We know you can out shoot most of us 40 somethings!
Superb gun.
@RidersRange
4 жыл бұрын
Murat Charles, yes it is. Thanks for watching and for commenting.
@muratcharles3049
4 жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange Thank you for the video
Nice shooting and good video! That is some impressive accuracy at 50 yards there!
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That gun makes it real easy. I've since switched the optic to a Swampfox Sentinel and couldn't be happier.
Great vid sir. I'm a new owner of both a Staccato C2 and XC. For the C2 in this video with the RomeoZero, is it a must to use a mounting plate? I also ordered a Holosun HS507C for another pistol I own and will see if this one also fits and which I like better.
@RidersRange
Жыл бұрын
That video is on the single stack C, not the C2. (Staccato recently discontinued the single stack C model.) Since that video I replaced the ROMEOZero with a Swampfox Sentinel, which fits the same mounting plate. For the C2, you need a mounting plate for any optic other than the Leupold DeltaPoint Pro, which direct mounts with a $50 kit from Dawson Precision. All other optics require a mounting plate ($160) that is specific for the optic. And the C2 comes with either a full-size front sight, or a compact front sight, which may influence your choice of optic. I hope that helps.
This is why I only carry a polymer striker fired pistol. Tolerances are too tight making them finicky.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy, more than 2,000 rounds of a variety of ammo through my original Staccato C without any issues, and the only issue I had with the DUO in more than 600 rounds was with that one particular round. So, they have been as reliable as any Glock, S&W M&P or Springfield I’ve ever had. But I can’t say that for most of the 1911s I’ve owned.
I like it! Great shooting from 50 yards, 6" moving plates! That's setup exudes confidence in you. I'm jealous. One question--do those iron sights work if the red dot goes down? They do not look like suppressor height sights.
@RidersRange
4 жыл бұрын
Steve, it just dawned on me that I didn't show the shots with the optic turned off. The DUO mounting plate has a built-in rear sight that is the same height as the rear sight on the factory DUO cover plate and it provides almost perfect co-witness with the dot - and works just fine when the optic is off - and doesn't need a suppressor-height front sight. The rear sight on the mounting plate is also drift-adjustable for windage. Thanks for bringing that up.
@stevestone5671
4 жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange Interesting. Maybe these manufacturers will start providing mounting options that allow for the original front sight to be used.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Steve, the Sig ROMEOZero, Shield RMSc and Holosun HS507K come with a sight notch as part of the sight frame. When mounted on a pistol that was milled for the sight, that notch does a pretty good job of aligning with the factory front sight. I’ve shot my P365XL with Holosun HS507K with the optic turned off using just the iron sights (factory front and Holosun rear notch) and it is certainly accurate enough for defensive work. I’ve done the same with a borrowed Hellcat and Shield RMSc. More manufacturers are coming around to the micro red dots for daily carry.
Strange choice - one of the best and most expensive pistols paired with literally worst slim red dot. Even the ADE, Riton and Swampfox are better.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
I have a new Holosun HS507K waiting on Dawson to come out with the mounting plate and I’m on the wait list for a Swampfox Sentinel. But in the meantime, the ROMEOZero is all I could get that would fit. As soon as Dawson or Swampfox comes through, the RIMEOZero is gone.
What the hell is hang fire
@RidersRange
Жыл бұрын
A hang fire is a delay between the firing pin or striker hitting the primer and the powder igniting. It is extremely rare in small arms, ore common in artillery. The hang fires I have experienced in one lot of 147gr Federal have been a small fraction of a second. Not particularly dangerous, but definitely noticeable.
@mox542
Жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange Thanks for that explanation. I just got my C today lol, What's the best FMJ to run in it?
@RidersRange
Жыл бұрын
I prefer to stick with major brand ammo, but mine has run everything I can fit in the magazine, including some cheaper off-brand ammo. However, I haven't run any steel case ammo. I do prefer to run 124gr or 147gr, but mine has digested lots of 115gr. I hope that helps. (And I got rid of the ROMEOZero red dot. I've been running a Swampfox Sentinel for more than a year. And the C is still my primary carry gun.
@mox542
Жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange Appreciate the info! Major help!
Sig will send you a metal shield for your Romeo Zero now, I think you just pay $10 or so for shipping.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Oceres, thanks. I wasn't aware they made a shield for it, but I'll have to look into it.
Another great review. I think you said the Staccato is your new EDC. My EDC is the Sig P365XL. Do you have any idea how they compare? Again, I really enjoy your reviews!
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Scott, another viewer asked pretty much the same question in an email. I won't go into the long answer I gave him, but suffice to say, if I wasn't a die-hard 1911 guy, I'd be carrying the 365XL. Actually, I am carrying it as I type this, because I just got a new sight for the Staccato and haven't yet put it through my testing. There are advantages to each, but unless you are devoted to the 1911 platform, I believe the 365XL has the advantage.
Was that 124gr FMJ Federal tumbling? Those are unusual holes in the paper target.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Rick, they weren't tumbling. The 9mm holes are normal size compared to the black 1" center and the yellow 3" circle. However, on the final target (about 7 minutes into the video) the cardboard backer was pretty well shot up so the bullets tore the paper, rather than poke clean holes.
What is your choice between the Holoson and the Sig? Oppps. Should have waited to the end. Thanks. Looking forward to Part 3.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Tommy, I also have a Swampfox Sentinel on order, so I’ll be able to evaluate all 3 on this gun.
@tommyj7087
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That is another one I saw, but if I remember correctly, you have to remove the optic to change the battery.
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If you had to choose between staccato C2 and CZ A01 LD what’s your choice and why?
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
MRFINCHMRFINCH, the Staccato C2 and CZ A01-LD are both very nice competition pistols, but I’d prefer the CZ. It’s heavier, which, for me, makes it a better competition platform, and the ergonomics and grip of the CZ are just about perfect. I just can’t warm up to the feel of the grip on the double-stack Staccato guns.
@MRFINCHMRFINCH
3 жыл бұрын
Rider's-Range Thank you very much. Keep posting great content, I’ll be watching. Great shooting and wonderful range
What mounting plate did you use for the swampfox sentinel
@RidersRange
2 жыл бұрын
I used the same mounting plate for the Swampfox Sentinel as for the ROMEOZero. They share the same footprint.
just want to ask if the holosun 507k will fit the staccato P Duo? thanks.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Marco, as I understand it, the Holosun "K" series have the same size footprint as the Sig ROMEOZero, Shield RMSC, Swampfox Sentinel, etc. but the alignment lugs are in a different location. However, the Staccato P DPO is designed for the Trijicon RMR, Leupold Delta Point, Swampfox Liberty/Justice size. That should be more comparable with the Holosun "C" series.
@marcobonafe3038
3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much.
Did you do radio? I think I recognize your voice
@RidersRange
4 жыл бұрын
Richard, the only radio I have done is the occasional interview, and talking on the radio when I was in law enforcement and when I was flying. But thanks for asking.
@RidersRange
4 жыл бұрын
@Kimberyote3, thank you for the kind compliment. And thanks for watching.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Kimberyote3, the best gun is the one you have on you at the moment you need it. When officers expect to use a gun, a carbine or shotgun is usually the firearm of choice. However, most violent encounters develop suddenly from what starts out as a non-violent encounter. Officers can’t walk up to a car on a traffic stop carrying a shotgun, or go into a home to answer a complaint of a domestic dispute carrying an M4. That wouldn’t go over well anywhere. So, in most situations, a handgun is all that is available when trouble starts. When I rode a motorcycle for the Sheriff’s Department, there was no secure place to carry a shotgun or carbine, so all I had was my handgun (actually, two - sidearm and pocket gun). And even when I was in a car in the off-season, it wasn’t practical to get out of the car carrying a shotgun on anything except known violent situations. I hope that provides some clarification. Thanks for the thought-provoking question.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Kimberyote3, I rode from 1978 until I retired (the first time) in 1992. Then when I was Chief, I leased a couple starting in 2004, and rode one for a summer, but didn’t get out enough to justify keeping it for myself, so I passed it on to a patrol officer who put it to good use.
This or the P365xl what do you prefer?
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Dono, I’ve been asking myself the same question. I really like them both and they both are wonderfully accurate, reliable and shootable. They each have their strengths and they each have a drawback or two. I have a fondness for the 1911-style, but I’m happy carrying either.
I hate flatnose ammo
@RidersRange
4 жыл бұрын
Wheeled and Well Armed, I usually don't have issues with flat nose 147gr in most guns and it runs fine in my Dan Wesson Vigil and Kimber TLE. But for some reason, the Federal 147 FMJ-FP is the ONLY ammo the Staccato wouldn't digest.
@WheeledandWellArmed
4 жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange i had a S&W 40 with issues and assumed it was the flat nose. The design of flat nose doesn't make sense. I'm surprised and flat nose loads the following round. I'm being dramatic but from an engineering perspective...
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Wheeled and Well Armed, a hollow-point bullet is basically a flat nose bullet, but with a cavity. Many hollow-points are now somewhat rounded, but some are like the original Super-Vel that are just a tapered flat point with a cavity. As to feeding, the S&W Model 52 was made to feed the .38 Special 148gr flush wadcutter. Colt also made their National Match to feed the same round, and their .45 target pistols did great with 185gr SWC. I’ve even seen some guns that would feed an empty case, but that’s a rare extreme. The Staccato ran everything except that one specific type, but now I’m going to have to test it with Blazer 147gr flat point. You got my curiosity up. I hope you and your family have a peaceful and enjoyable Labor Day. Thanks, as always, for commenting.
@WheeledandWellArmed
3 жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange Thanks for your response. My CZ 40B when it pulls a round up and pushes it up the ramp it will hesitate and sometimes stop half way. A more or slight push will send it home. I cleaned the slide and it helps but not 100%. I replaced the buffer spring. Someone said the ramp can be modified. Let me know how your test goes. Thanks for your information you provide on your videos. Have a great Labor Day.
Good shooting but it makes me cringe when you put your left hand in front of the muzzle, Do not try this at home kids.
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Alan, thank you for watching and for commenting. I revisited the entire video and unless I missed something, the only incident I could find was at 9:20 when my left hand holding a magazine moved toward the camera. The gun (unloaded at the time) was pointed over the crook in my left arm, not muzzling any part of me. But if I missed somewhere else in the video, please let me know. I do my best to be safety conscious, but I’m sure there are times when it may not appear that way from the camera end - or, times when I just plain miss something. I count on viewers such as you to point those out so I can improve on future videos.
Is the staccato C Duo still your carry gun?
@RidersRange
3 жыл бұрын
Rukkit, for the most part, it is. However, right now I'm evaluating a new holster that was made for my Wilson EDC X9, so I'll be carrying that for a little while. Then back to the Staccato.