An excerpt from a Manah Siksa class given by Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayan Gosvami Maharaj, 22 June 1998 in Badger, California.
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@gaurachandragiridhari45292 жыл бұрын
Both Srila Narayana Maharaj and Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada were perfect ... Some of their disciples like Srila Jayapataka Swami Maharaj and Aindra prabhu, Gour Govind Swami were Nitya-Siddha .. Instead of Fighting who is better .. Our message should be to propagate Krishna Consciousness among the masses and make people devotees! Hare Krishna!
@nityadas8512
Жыл бұрын
Jay , today i found genuine devotee pranam🙏
@jayantchaudhary3584
5 ай бұрын
You mentioned Aindra prabhu i am so happy thanks
@maheshdas2927
18 күн бұрын
Haribol Prabhu, yes I know Jayapataka Swami and Aindra Prabhu and all these devotees you are talking about, but it is not correct for you to mention these devotees that you mention as Nitya Sidhas since this observation can only be made from a person who is liberated and not by us who are Nitya bhadas trying to get out of this material conditioning through the mercy of our Gurudevas. At this point you are speaking outside of a basis that you cannot observe with these material eyes and only by observing the positive results of these devotees that you mention.
@suchandradasi4 жыл бұрын
In the audience, so many disciples of Srila Prabhupad are there, also disciples of Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar maharaj, Srila Gaur Govinda maharaj, Srila Swarup Damodar maharaj and many others. It was a disciple of Srila Prabhupad who made a friendly joke that "That's why you cant join ISKCON, (because he chants 64, rather than 16), and that Prabhupad disciple glorifies Srila Gurudev to this day.
@JoshDorta15 жыл бұрын
So sad watching people make fun of iskcon. Srila Prabhupada’s life and accomplishments was not ordinary but greater then any other. Through Iskcon the teachings of Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam have been brought to all places on earth. The service of Iskcon devotees have done so much good it’s hard to even see its material ramifications such as spread of vegetarianism , what to speak of spiritual. Waves that have touched the all of earth. Are there issues ? yes. Are there fallen gurus? yes. But there are thousands and thousands of individuals. To think that they are all pure souls is missing the point. Before we find fault with individuals let us look inside ourselves and make sure we have no fault of our own. Watching these people laugh and make fun at Iskcon is truly sad. Why? What good does it do ? When I think of how at 14 I received a book that changed my life forever. I’m thankful for Iskcon and all devotees, who while maybe not pure, but have helped give meaning and understanding to my life by giving me a glimpse of what it means that Radha and Krishna love each other.
@ramanandadas4125
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry you experienced this video in that way Josh. The amount of service Srila Maharaj has performed for Srila Prabhupada and Iskcon can easily be found online. Perhaps familiarising yourself with these accounts might give you a better perspective of what is actually being said in this video as you are missing the subtle point being made here. Srila Maharaj is trying to present a much deeper and broader understanding of Iskcon.
@JoshDorta1
5 жыл бұрын
@@ramanandadas4125 Oh I am speaking about the people in the audience, not Narayana Maharaja
@Nitai_Gauranga
5 жыл бұрын
Patit Pawan AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupad Ki Jai
@manojkumarmishra1281
5 жыл бұрын
@@ramanandadas4125 Are you not deviated from principles.... First check tour present fallen gurus and then talk about iskcon....no one can be better than iskcon
@debasishghosh7865
4 жыл бұрын
I am asking are the most gurus in ISKCON fallen? I also read ISKCON Gita but have never seen any guru personally . You may know so asking you. Forgive for any offense.
@FashionKidsCastingTV6 жыл бұрын
My Big Family (Sripad Bhakti Svarupa Damodara Maharaja talking about Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja, India; November 25, 2004) I came to know about Srila Maharaja several years ago, when he was giving us guidelines. Especially when our Srila Prabhupada departed, he took care of us in such a wonderful and very loving manner - something we can never forget. [Srila Narayana Maharaja] I think always, and I also tell my devotees, that we are in only one family - the family of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Sri Nityananda Prabhu. We should always be together and preach their mission throughout the world. If we are united again, we can preach throughout the world - as in the time of Srila Bhaktivedanta Svami Maharaja. (Govardhana, India; November 25, 2004 Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja)
@juvontay110 жыл бұрын
Srila Prabhupada Ki Jai!
@user-du9qc9xw6e
7 жыл бұрын
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@shishirgowdas21968 ай бұрын
Srila Narayan Maharaj ki Jai sarila prabhupada ki jay
@uttamkumarbarman81983 жыл бұрын
I am not a devotee.. As a common people i wanna say something... I am from thakurgaon, Bangladesh. Two temple one of iskcon and one of gaurio math are situated 6 to 7 km away from my home. Some of my closed relatives are directly connected with iskcon and gourio math. I think the main principles of the both organization are similar. It seems that the deviation is on the quality of the devotee who are connected with. And i see that both of the organization have some problem in maintaining the quality of devotees. So i request not to criticise each other so that it doesnt harm our society.
@radhabhaav9217
Жыл бұрын
Who is talking , tell him to stop first 😂
@lakshmivats2435 Жыл бұрын
Hare krishna dandwat parnam 🙏🙏
@brajendradas80633 жыл бұрын
Hare krsna Very beautiful 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@sriradhavallabha12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this :)
@mayankgupta12619 ай бұрын
Srila Gurudev ki jay
@srivrindavandhamjps7333 жыл бұрын
You preaching mahaprabhu
@videoworks77315 жыл бұрын
listen carefully you are hearing from a Maha-Bhagavata
@bayridge10814 жыл бұрын
Jai Srila Gurudev
@inajha98385 жыл бұрын
Jay sril gurudev
@deepnarayandasadhikari39402 жыл бұрын
Hare Krishnan
@subhashchdey83633 жыл бұрын
Hare Krishna prabhu!
@ttitainasaint-martin275011 ай бұрын
Jai Gurudev 🙏🌺🌿🌼🌿🌺🌿🌼🌿🌺🙏
@radhikadasi53462 жыл бұрын
JAI SRILA GURUDEVA SRILA BV NARAYANA GOSVAMI MAHARAJA JAI SRILA SVAMI PRABHUPADA
@sagarsach65774 жыл бұрын
Before they never allowed foreign devotees into gaudiya sampradaya.. It was Srila AbhaycharanBhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada who gave this opportunity to the westerners and they r doing well in devotion.. Iskcon was founded by Swami Prabhupada for this reason only and he moved out of Gaudiya Run by His Godbrothers.. Hare Krishna 🙏Srila Prabhupada ki Jai 🙏
@jackbootshamangaming4541
4 жыл бұрын
. There were German Devotees during WWII of the Gaudiya Matha.
@amansingh13346
3 жыл бұрын
This was Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Prabhupada's advise to Srila Prabhupada
@amansingh13346
3 жыл бұрын
To go to foreign and preach Krishna consciousness
@adobecreative7072
3 жыл бұрын
Lol u know nothing. It was Param Pujya Srila Saraswati Prabhupada who ordered Srila Vann Maharaj to preach Lord Chaitanya mahaprabhu to the west. And then Srila Vann Maharaj went Germany, learnt German in 6 month and spread Mahaprabhu Prem in front of Hitler. And when we came back India he brought 2 German disciple with him as well. They were the first foreign devotee of Gaudiya Samprada when there was no trace of ISKON. So go n learn from your Gurudev then comment..haha...Pity your knowledge and cynical mindset.
@pramodgupta9236
Жыл бұрын
Please prabhu ji don't use words like LOL, to prove your point., I know you are correct , but whatever we all are of one family , So please let's stop arguing and love and respect each other Hare krishna 🙏 ❤️🙇
@charuchandrika92274 жыл бұрын
Porfavor ... Gurudev .. imploró su misericordia sin causa..... 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🌸🍃🐚
@MayiHeart14 жыл бұрын
Gurudeva is perfect!
@kirr44 жыл бұрын
Omg just see the disciples how they are laughing ....... shameless ....... seriously maharaj is telling not to criticize they are laughing and critizing infront of him......so sad
@ramanandadas4125
3 жыл бұрын
One could argue (to the ones complaining about the devotees in the audience laughing)that you are also criticising by calling them shameless etc. and not understanding the reason behind their laughter.
@kirr4
3 жыл бұрын
@@ramanandadas4125 it's obvious why they are laughing , I am surprised to see how come you still won't get it , it so clear , we do respect them but here in that situation we won't encourage them , mistakes do happen with everyone ,
@kirr4
3 жыл бұрын
@@ramanandadas4125 please give your version why they are laughing ? Make me to understand I am not perfect I might have misunderstood also ......
@ramanandadas4125
3 жыл бұрын
@@kirr4 I thought it was at the irony of how one could argue if he or even Narad and Sukadev Gosvami are an Iskcon member or not. I do see what you mean too actually and I can’t deny that the laughing is a bit too much.
@kirr4
3 жыл бұрын
@@ramanandadas4125 we respect their wonderful services that their radhakunj center is distributing so much prasadam every day where in in so called Fiskcon not even following that that's a good service .......
@ujaldas329211 жыл бұрын
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja Ky Jay !!!!!
@Munger_forestry Жыл бұрын
Srila praphupada ki jai
@shamagope74613 жыл бұрын
Srila pravhupada ki jai
@needleplow12 жыл бұрын
Referring to Sastra : Nectar of Devotion: "The spiritual master must never be carried away by an accumulation of wealth or a large number of followers. A bona fide spiritual master will never become like that. But sometimes if a spiritual master is not properly authorized and only on his own initiative becomes a spiritual master, he may be carried away by an accumulation of wealth and large number of disciples. His is not a very grade of devotional service. CONTINUES
@bojankojic108 Жыл бұрын
his divane grace srila a.c. bhaktivedanta swami prabhupada is founder acharya of ISKCON.
@Madlookin11 жыл бұрын
it seams like you didn't listen to what is spoken in this video...Hare Krsna
@needleplow12 жыл бұрын
@rakeshram CONTINUED : If a person is carried away by such achievements, then his devotional service becomes slackened. One should therefore strictly adhere to the principle of disciplic succesion." Srila Prabhupada Nector of Devotion p. 116 Edition 1982 "Devotional Qualities". If Prabhupada ordered someone specific something else, so be it. In my understanding the basic order was : Ritvik. Prabhupada used the word in writing, signed by him, in taperecording and witnesses heard. Some did not.
@kuldeeprai54162 жыл бұрын
Why making fun of principles established by srila prabhupada.... In every sampradaya some devotees gets fall down but still it has genuine devotees too.... Whether it's iskcon or gudiya math or other sampradaya..... Main thing is that the devotee who is representing any respective parampara is forwarding 'true knowledge As it is ' as taught by acharyas.... That should be the the standard ....!!! Hare Krishna...!!!🙏
@Glossy_Aesthetics
3 ай бұрын
He is not criticizing iskcon. So sad people in the comment section are doing aparadh. According to my understanding, gurudev is trying to say even if you are not from iskcon even if you have not taken initiation from iskcon guru , you are qualified to perform bhakti if you are chanting more and more rounds, following all the principles. You can be in any sampradaya if you are a sincere devotee you are qualified for doing Krishna bhakti, spreading chaitanya mahaprabhu's message. That's why he gave an example of him talking to a iskcon Prabhu that what are the rules for joining iskcon. He was trying to make us understand that we can b in any sampradaya and do bhakti. Hare Krishna.
@sujatasikdar993 жыл бұрын
Even after having such a offenceless service , just because you are engaged in laughing and criticizing your god brother and his efforts to spread krishna consciousness , you have lost your purity and dignity . You are simply producing your own burden.
@nitaaii6400 Жыл бұрын
Y catch iskcon devotees
@needleplow12 жыл бұрын
@rakeshram So Narayan Maharaj acknowledged the orders from Prabhupada to his disciples, to initiate on his behalf by means of officiating acaryas, ritviks? Did he point to that order? Did Srila Narayan Maharaj tell Srila Prabhupadas disciple to do that? Is that what Naryan Maharaj´s camp is doing now? Pointing to the Ritvik order from Srila Prabhupada? Apart from this I´m sure you`re right. Pranams.
@musicsoul8328
3 жыл бұрын
Nope...u r giving ur own thoughts..
@jivananda108
Жыл бұрын
Srila Gurudevs Sanga does not practice Ritvik at all. So no.
@toveolsvik87899 ай бұрын
Reinitiating Sr Prabhupada disciples is a great offense.
@ujaldas329211 жыл бұрын
Yf u give respect to one pure devotee and comited offenses against other pure devotee the result certanly is the hell , be careful with offenses , the Iskcon finished in the time that the bogus gurus poisoned Swami Maharaja (prabhupada) and reject Srila Narayana Maharaja !!! aparadhis out here !!!!
@jiveshvaridevidasi3983
6 жыл бұрын
So why did he want so much to join ISKCON?
@bayridge108
5 жыл бұрын
@@jiveshvaridevidasi3983 he didn't want to join ....IT'S A JOKE ....are you that dense ?
@nitaaii6400 Жыл бұрын
Y dont u join iskcon,u your own mission,math
@sammohiniradhadd22992 жыл бұрын
A real guru never glorifies oneself or even offend anyone trying to do devotional service. Pandita Sama Darshi. We all are practicing devotees and regulations are needed for sadhakas. So disciples should always respect the guru parampara rather than pointing which organization or acharya is false. Acharyas are to be followed be in any sampradaya. We will never advance if we as a disciples fail to address what is the real teachings. Orelse vaishnava ninda is so dangerous that this will never let us advance and seek the real devotion.
@sumedhanimaidasa252 Жыл бұрын
You are a sannayaai,but u spoke fully new nonsence..u are criticized to bhaktisiddantha maharaj that's all
@Glossy_Aesthetics
3 ай бұрын
He is not criticizing iskcon. So sad people in the comment section are doing aparadh. According to my understanding, gurudev is trying to say even if you are not from iskcon even if you have not taken initiation from iskcon guru , you are qualified to perform bhakti if you are chanting more and more rounds, following all the principles. You can be in any sampradaya if you are a sincere devotee you are qualified for doing Krishna bhakti, spreading chaitanya mahaprabhu's message. That's why he gave an example of him talking to a iskcon Prabhu that what are the rules for joining iskcon. He was trying to make us understand that we can b in any sampradaya and do bhakti. Hare Krishna.
@Glossy_Aesthetics
3 ай бұрын
kzread.infoMGmkkXanKr0?si=V6pZvCI2dUO2bjCq
@ziggyschumann52845 жыл бұрын
This individual is NOT at Prabhupada's level, not even close. Please don't insult my intelligence and life long experiences, which include being in His Divine Grace's Association on 3 separate occasions. Pure devotees clearly are not part of this world. Gour Govinda Swami was (is) one. Sriman Aindra Prabhu was (is) was clearly very advanced, any sincere soul could see that. Besides that, could be more, have not seen them from Iskcon et al. Almost all are shiksa POSING as diksha gurus. Om Tat Sat
@Gouranga60
3 жыл бұрын
Just keep your opinior for yourself. Fallen soul, like all of us, what significant points can you provide except your tragic speculations?
@kunal007216
3 жыл бұрын
lol you know nothing about bhakti then. Even srila swami maharaj would be ashmed on devotee like you..
@ziggyschumann5284
3 жыл бұрын
@@kunal007216 You're laughing at me ? No problem. Have a good laugh. Ignorance is bliss. Believe what you want. Worship who you want. All glories to Srila Prabhupada
@kunal007216
3 жыл бұрын
@@ziggyschumann5284 exactly what else I was supposed to do then?? People from ISKON are so much jealous that they don't know any boundary and ready to do Vaishnava apradh to prove themselves right. It's good swami maharaj took samadhi before seeing desciple like you. Go n hear the conversation between both Vaishnavas and u will know who was he.
@needleplow12 жыл бұрын
Follow the order of the spiritual Master : Founder Acarya of The International Society for Krishnaconsciousness Srila Prabhupadas last directives : Initiate on my behalf. They did not abide, they initiated on their own behalf. Look what happened. Did Narayan Maharaj follow Srila Prabhupadas order? Is he telling them to follow their Spiritual Masters last order? For clarification see i.e. "The Pyramid House Confessions" December 3rd 1980 by Tamal Krishna Goswami
@eric5906
3 жыл бұрын
Ur ritvik propaganda is insulting to Srila Prabhupada.
@needleplow
3 жыл бұрын
@@eric5906 After the demise of Srila Prabhupada in November 1977 the order was/is 'on my order only'.
@needleplow
3 жыл бұрын
@@eric5906 Of course ritvik initiation is not the way after Nov. 1977.
@vipinviharidasglobalvillag28013 жыл бұрын
Why does he need to criticize iskcon ?
@Glossy_Aesthetics
3 ай бұрын
He is not criticizing iskcon. So sad people in the comment section are doing aparadh. According to my understanding, gurudev is trying to say even if you are not from iskcon even if you have not taken initiation from iskcon guru , you are qualified to perform bhakti if you are chanting more and more rounds, following all the principles. You can be in any sampradaya if you are a sincere devotee you are qualified for doing Krishna bhakti, spreading chaitanya mahaprabhu's message. That's why he gave an example of him talking to a iskcon Prabhu that what are the rules for joining iskcon. He was trying to make us understand that we can b in any sampradaya and do bhakti. Hare Krishna.
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Both Srila Narayana Maharaj and Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada were perfect ... Some of their disciples like Srila Jayapataka Swami Maharaj and Aindra prabhu, Gour Govind Swami were Nitya-Siddha .. Instead of Fighting who is better .. Our message should be to propagate Krishna Consciousness among the masses and make people devotees! Hare Krishna!
@nityadas8512
Жыл бұрын
Jay , today i found genuine devotee pranam🙏
@jayantchaudhary3584
5 ай бұрын
You mentioned Aindra prabhu i am so happy thanks
@maheshdas2927
18 күн бұрын
Haribol Prabhu, yes I know Jayapataka Swami and Aindra Prabhu and all these devotees you are talking about, but it is not correct for you to mention these devotees that you mention as Nitya Sidhas since this observation can only be made from a person who is liberated and not by us who are Nitya bhadas trying to get out of this material conditioning through the mercy of our Gurudevas. At this point you are speaking outside of a basis that you cannot observe with these material eyes and only by observing the positive results of these devotees that you mention.
In the audience, so many disciples of Srila Prabhupad are there, also disciples of Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar maharaj, Srila Gaur Govinda maharaj, Srila Swarup Damodar maharaj and many others. It was a disciple of Srila Prabhupad who made a friendly joke that "That's why you cant join ISKCON, (because he chants 64, rather than 16), and that Prabhupad disciple glorifies Srila Gurudev to this day.
So sad watching people make fun of iskcon. Srila Prabhupada’s life and accomplishments was not ordinary but greater then any other. Through Iskcon the teachings of Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam have been brought to all places on earth. The service of Iskcon devotees have done so much good it’s hard to even see its material ramifications such as spread of vegetarianism , what to speak of spiritual. Waves that have touched the all of earth. Are there issues ? yes. Are there fallen gurus? yes. But there are thousands and thousands of individuals. To think that they are all pure souls is missing the point. Before we find fault with individuals let us look inside ourselves and make sure we have no fault of our own. Watching these people laugh and make fun at Iskcon is truly sad. Why? What good does it do ? When I think of how at 14 I received a book that changed my life forever. I’m thankful for Iskcon and all devotees, who while maybe not pure, but have helped give meaning and understanding to my life by giving me a glimpse of what it means that Radha and Krishna love each other.
@ramanandadas4125
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry you experienced this video in that way Josh. The amount of service Srila Maharaj has performed for Srila Prabhupada and Iskcon can easily be found online. Perhaps familiarising yourself with these accounts might give you a better perspective of what is actually being said in this video as you are missing the subtle point being made here. Srila Maharaj is trying to present a much deeper and broader understanding of Iskcon.
@JoshDorta1
5 жыл бұрын
@@ramanandadas4125 Oh I am speaking about the people in the audience, not Narayana Maharaja
@Nitai_Gauranga
5 жыл бұрын
Patit Pawan AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupad Ki Jai
@manojkumarmishra1281
5 жыл бұрын
@@ramanandadas4125 Are you not deviated from principles.... First check tour present fallen gurus and then talk about iskcon....no one can be better than iskcon
@debasishghosh7865
4 жыл бұрын
I am asking are the most gurus in ISKCON fallen? I also read ISKCON Gita but have never seen any guru personally . You may know so asking you. Forgive for any offense.
My Big Family (Sripad Bhakti Svarupa Damodara Maharaja talking about Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja, India; November 25, 2004) I came to know about Srila Maharaja several years ago, when he was giving us guidelines. Especially when our Srila Prabhupada departed, he took care of us in such a wonderful and very loving manner - something we can never forget. [Srila Narayana Maharaja] I think always, and I also tell my devotees, that we are in only one family - the family of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Sri Nityananda Prabhu. We should always be together and preach their mission throughout the world. If we are united again, we can preach throughout the world - as in the time of Srila Bhaktivedanta Svami Maharaja. (Govardhana, India; November 25, 2004 Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja)
Srila Prabhupada Ki Jai!
@user-du9qc9xw6e
7 жыл бұрын
juvontay1гэ
Srila Narayan Maharaj ki Jai sarila prabhupada ki jay
I am not a devotee.. As a common people i wanna say something... I am from thakurgaon, Bangladesh. Two temple one of iskcon and one of gaurio math are situated 6 to 7 km away from my home. Some of my closed relatives are directly connected with iskcon and gourio math. I think the main principles of the both organization are similar. It seems that the deviation is on the quality of the devotee who are connected with. And i see that both of the organization have some problem in maintaining the quality of devotees. So i request not to criticise each other so that it doesnt harm our society.
@radhabhaav9217
Жыл бұрын
Who is talking , tell him to stop first 😂
Hare krishna dandwat parnam 🙏🙏
Hare krsna Very beautiful 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for posting this :)
Srila Gurudev ki jay
You preaching mahaprabhu
listen carefully you are hearing from a Maha-Bhagavata
Jai Srila Gurudev
Jay sril gurudev
Hare Krishnan
Hare Krishna prabhu!
Jai Gurudev 🙏🌺🌿🌼🌿🌺🌿🌼🌿🌺🙏
JAI SRILA GURUDEVA SRILA BV NARAYANA GOSVAMI MAHARAJA JAI SRILA SVAMI PRABHUPADA
Before they never allowed foreign devotees into gaudiya sampradaya.. It was Srila AbhaycharanBhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada who gave this opportunity to the westerners and they r doing well in devotion.. Iskcon was founded by Swami Prabhupada for this reason only and he moved out of Gaudiya Run by His Godbrothers.. Hare Krishna 🙏Srila Prabhupada ki Jai 🙏
@jackbootshamangaming4541
4 жыл бұрын
. There were German Devotees during WWII of the Gaudiya Matha.
@amansingh13346
3 жыл бұрын
This was Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Prabhupada's advise to Srila Prabhupada
@amansingh13346
3 жыл бұрын
To go to foreign and preach Krishna consciousness
@adobecreative7072
3 жыл бұрын
Lol u know nothing. It was Param Pujya Srila Saraswati Prabhupada who ordered Srila Vann Maharaj to preach Lord Chaitanya mahaprabhu to the west. And then Srila Vann Maharaj went Germany, learnt German in 6 month and spread Mahaprabhu Prem in front of Hitler. And when we came back India he brought 2 German disciple with him as well. They were the first foreign devotee of Gaudiya Samprada when there was no trace of ISKON. So go n learn from your Gurudev then comment..haha...Pity your knowledge and cynical mindset.
@pramodgupta9236
Жыл бұрын
Please prabhu ji don't use words like LOL, to prove your point., I know you are correct , but whatever we all are of one family , So please let's stop arguing and love and respect each other Hare krishna 🙏 ❤️🙇
Porfavor ... Gurudev .. imploró su misericordia sin causa..... 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🌸🍃🐚
Gurudeva is perfect!
Omg just see the disciples how they are laughing ....... shameless ....... seriously maharaj is telling not to criticize they are laughing and critizing infront of him......so sad
@ramanandadas4125
3 жыл бұрын
One could argue (to the ones complaining about the devotees in the audience laughing)that you are also criticising by calling them shameless etc. and not understanding the reason behind their laughter.
@kirr4
3 жыл бұрын
@@ramanandadas4125 it's obvious why they are laughing , I am surprised to see how come you still won't get it , it so clear , we do respect them but here in that situation we won't encourage them , mistakes do happen with everyone ,
@kirr4
3 жыл бұрын
@@ramanandadas4125 please give your version why they are laughing ? Make me to understand I am not perfect I might have misunderstood also ......
@ramanandadas4125
3 жыл бұрын
@@kirr4 I thought it was at the irony of how one could argue if he or even Narad and Sukadev Gosvami are an Iskcon member or not. I do see what you mean too actually and I can’t deny that the laughing is a bit too much.
@kirr4
3 жыл бұрын
@@ramanandadas4125 we respect their wonderful services that their radhakunj center is distributing so much prasadam every day where in in so called Fiskcon not even following that that's a good service .......
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja Ky Jay !!!!!
Srila praphupada ki jai
Srila pravhupada ki jai
Referring to Sastra : Nectar of Devotion: "The spiritual master must never be carried away by an accumulation of wealth or a large number of followers. A bona fide spiritual master will never become like that. But sometimes if a spiritual master is not properly authorized and only on his own initiative becomes a spiritual master, he may be carried away by an accumulation of wealth and large number of disciples. His is not a very grade of devotional service. CONTINUES
his divane grace srila a.c. bhaktivedanta swami prabhupada is founder acharya of ISKCON.
it seams like you didn't listen to what is spoken in this video...Hare Krsna
@rakeshram CONTINUED : If a person is carried away by such achievements, then his devotional service becomes slackened. One should therefore strictly adhere to the principle of disciplic succesion." Srila Prabhupada Nector of Devotion p. 116 Edition 1982 "Devotional Qualities". If Prabhupada ordered someone specific something else, so be it. In my understanding the basic order was : Ritvik. Prabhupada used the word in writing, signed by him, in taperecording and witnesses heard. Some did not.
Why making fun of principles established by srila prabhupada.... In every sampradaya some devotees gets fall down but still it has genuine devotees too.... Whether it's iskcon or gudiya math or other sampradaya..... Main thing is that the devotee who is representing any respective parampara is forwarding 'true knowledge As it is ' as taught by acharyas.... That should be the the standard ....!!! Hare Krishna...!!!🙏
@Glossy_Aesthetics
3 ай бұрын
He is not criticizing iskcon. So sad people in the comment section are doing aparadh. According to my understanding, gurudev is trying to say even if you are not from iskcon even if you have not taken initiation from iskcon guru , you are qualified to perform bhakti if you are chanting more and more rounds, following all the principles. You can be in any sampradaya if you are a sincere devotee you are qualified for doing Krishna bhakti, spreading chaitanya mahaprabhu's message. That's why he gave an example of him talking to a iskcon Prabhu that what are the rules for joining iskcon. He was trying to make us understand that we can b in any sampradaya and do bhakti. Hare Krishna.
Even after having such a offenceless service , just because you are engaged in laughing and criticizing your god brother and his efforts to spread krishna consciousness , you have lost your purity and dignity . You are simply producing your own burden.
Y catch iskcon devotees
@rakeshram So Narayan Maharaj acknowledged the orders from Prabhupada to his disciples, to initiate on his behalf by means of officiating acaryas, ritviks? Did he point to that order? Did Srila Narayan Maharaj tell Srila Prabhupadas disciple to do that? Is that what Naryan Maharaj´s camp is doing now? Pointing to the Ritvik order from Srila Prabhupada? Apart from this I´m sure you`re right. Pranams.
@musicsoul8328
3 жыл бұрын
Nope...u r giving ur own thoughts..
@jivananda108
Жыл бұрын
Srila Gurudevs Sanga does not practice Ritvik at all. So no.
Reinitiating Sr Prabhupada disciples is a great offense.
Yf u give respect to one pure devotee and comited offenses against other pure devotee the result certanly is the hell , be careful with offenses , the Iskcon finished in the time that the bogus gurus poisoned Swami Maharaja (prabhupada) and reject Srila Narayana Maharaja !!! aparadhis out here !!!!
@jiveshvaridevidasi3983
6 жыл бұрын
So why did he want so much to join ISKCON?
@bayridge108
5 жыл бұрын
@@jiveshvaridevidasi3983 he didn't want to join ....IT'S A JOKE ....are you that dense ?
Y dont u join iskcon,u your own mission,math
A real guru never glorifies oneself or even offend anyone trying to do devotional service. Pandita Sama Darshi. We all are practicing devotees and regulations are needed for sadhakas. So disciples should always respect the guru parampara rather than pointing which organization or acharya is false. Acharyas are to be followed be in any sampradaya. We will never advance if we as a disciples fail to address what is the real teachings. Orelse vaishnava ninda is so dangerous that this will never let us advance and seek the real devotion.
You are a sannayaai,but u spoke fully new nonsence..u are criticized to bhaktisiddantha maharaj that's all
@Glossy_Aesthetics
3 ай бұрын
He is not criticizing iskcon. So sad people in the comment section are doing aparadh. According to my understanding, gurudev is trying to say even if you are not from iskcon even if you have not taken initiation from iskcon guru , you are qualified to perform bhakti if you are chanting more and more rounds, following all the principles. You can be in any sampradaya if you are a sincere devotee you are qualified for doing Krishna bhakti, spreading chaitanya mahaprabhu's message. That's why he gave an example of him talking to a iskcon Prabhu that what are the rules for joining iskcon. He was trying to make us understand that we can b in any sampradaya and do bhakti. Hare Krishna.
@Glossy_Aesthetics
3 ай бұрын
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This individual is NOT at Prabhupada's level, not even close. Please don't insult my intelligence and life long experiences, which include being in His Divine Grace's Association on 3 separate occasions. Pure devotees clearly are not part of this world. Gour Govinda Swami was (is) one. Sriman Aindra Prabhu was (is) was clearly very advanced, any sincere soul could see that. Besides that, could be more, have not seen them from Iskcon et al. Almost all are shiksa POSING as diksha gurus. Om Tat Sat
@Gouranga60
3 жыл бұрын
Just keep your opinior for yourself. Fallen soul, like all of us, what significant points can you provide except your tragic speculations?
@kunal007216
3 жыл бұрын
lol you know nothing about bhakti then. Even srila swami maharaj would be ashmed on devotee like you..
@ziggyschumann5284
3 жыл бұрын
@@kunal007216 You're laughing at me ? No problem. Have a good laugh. Ignorance is bliss. Believe what you want. Worship who you want. All glories to Srila Prabhupada
@kunal007216
3 жыл бұрын
@@ziggyschumann5284 exactly what else I was supposed to do then?? People from ISKON are so much jealous that they don't know any boundary and ready to do Vaishnava apradh to prove themselves right. It's good swami maharaj took samadhi before seeing desciple like you. Go n hear the conversation between both Vaishnavas and u will know who was he.
Follow the order of the spiritual Master : Founder Acarya of The International Society for Krishnaconsciousness Srila Prabhupadas last directives : Initiate on my behalf. They did not abide, they initiated on their own behalf. Look what happened. Did Narayan Maharaj follow Srila Prabhupadas order? Is he telling them to follow their Spiritual Masters last order? For clarification see i.e. "The Pyramid House Confessions" December 3rd 1980 by Tamal Krishna Goswami
@eric5906
3 жыл бұрын
Ur ritvik propaganda is insulting to Srila Prabhupada.
@needleplow
3 жыл бұрын
@@eric5906 After the demise of Srila Prabhupada in November 1977 the order was/is 'on my order only'.
@needleplow
3 жыл бұрын
@@eric5906 Of course ritvik initiation is not the way after Nov. 1977.
Why does he need to criticize iskcon ?
@Glossy_Aesthetics
3 ай бұрын
He is not criticizing iskcon. So sad people in the comment section are doing aparadh. According to my understanding, gurudev is trying to say even if you are not from iskcon even if you have not taken initiation from iskcon guru , you are qualified to perform bhakti if you are chanting more and more rounds, following all the principles. You can be in any sampradaya if you are a sincere devotee you are qualified for doing Krishna bhakti, spreading chaitanya mahaprabhu's message. That's why he gave an example of him talking to a iskcon Prabhu that what are the rules for joining iskcon. He was trying to make us understand that we can b in any sampradaya and do bhakti. Hare Krishna.
@Glossy_Aesthetics
3 ай бұрын
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@Glossy_Aesthetics
3 ай бұрын
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Do not do aparat
So unfortunate so sad
bogus guru
Srila gurudev ki Jay Jay