Awesome review! I'd like to add that for people still using QR 135 hubs, the NX eagle Pg1230 cassette works flawlessly with XT M8100 from Shimano.

Love the honest review

Always keeping us informed. Thank you.

Great video, ...as usual. Thanks.

Seems like I’m back where I started, not knowing which groupset to up grade to! Thanks for the great review though!

Super cool! thanks for the video

Very nice review man

thank you so much for the review...

Superb explanation!. Grateful!.

I’m not over the moon with SRAM, i put a KMC chain on and it changes gear smoother 👌👌👌

@mtbexpeditions

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB yes indeed, I always used KMC gold and still do in future

3 years later, I'd argue this is one of the most Shimano-fanboy reviews of the NX I've ever seen. But then again, it seems like the Shimano stuff is cheaper for you guys, and where I live it's the opposite.

Had nothing but issues with my sx rd, swapped it out with a gx axs (norm gx was back ordered too far) and it’s much better now.

Just got a bike w sx and planned on just changing the rear derailleur and never even thought about the chain! but now I know and will do so thanks.

@braddehaven8828

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB giant trance 3 in the color 😊 and have all kinds of upgrade plans cause it came w a few of components that will hold the bike back

Very informative - thanks for review

@rl6210

2 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB I am looking at new bike with nx and concerned bc I would be trading my gx bike

I didn't know that the NX/SX chains could crack like that, have been using mine for over a year without any issues so far. But will definitely keep a close eye on that. Thanks for the video, very informative am using an SX RD and upgrading to GX.

@rolandcheahsinboon5638

4 жыл бұрын

No issue with my NX chain for nearly 2 years now, have been rock solid. Apparently it’s also rated for e bikes.

@WGazeon

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB That could be a possibility, have high hopes for SX since the I jumped to it from Deore 10 speed and that drivetrain is pretty reliable.

@WGazeon

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB Thanks for sharing your thoughts, appreciate it. Hopefully, the experience will be nice down the line haha, it's been running good so far. Kudos on the videos btw :)

Wow, I didn't know the SX derailleur is plastic! Great, informative video as usual.

@4lchEmi

4 жыл бұрын

I do believe it , mine snapped today, didn't even bend the replaceble bit it attach to XD

@MaricCurse

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB Hello what does the NX derailleur made of?

@thelonerangermtb

3 жыл бұрын

@@MaricCurse kzread.info/dash/bejne/nWV2ypialdyYpNI.html

I really like that Intense bike! I 😎😍 My new YT Capra came with full SX. 1×12. The rear derailer isn't the best. Plastic for sure! And no wheel to help ease cable shifting. Will upgrade to GX when breaks. Last years base Capra had full NX. But they went cheaper spec to lower price quite a bit. Putting it in my price range. My Marin Trail bike came with NX derailer and shifter and Fsa crankset. It has been really reliable. Have been on Sx since January...Sx hanging in there. Nice video. Very helpful.

@Ropetable

4 жыл бұрын

i destroyed an slx derailleur by adjusting a screw once... it is utter garbeage. shimano slx or shimano deore on the other hand feel absolutely amazing and is even cheaper. no idea how they do it. many bikes come with eagle though, i had to pay alot to change my drivetrain to shimano after the crappy sram bottom bracket started creaking like crazy.

@trailladymtb7700

4 жыл бұрын

I like that NX Drivetrain you have on the bike. I have it on my trail bike. BeeN Reliable for me.

If you want more clearance for you water bottle , you can mount the shock with the body towards the rear and shaft to the front. I did that to improve the ease of removing the water bottle in an intense acv.

Great video. I just bought a mtb with the Sram Sx. I will use it until the limit and then I will put a GX. Greetings from Brazil.

@mateuscabrera

3 жыл бұрын

Boa

@Tommmmmmmmmmmm

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB what will I need to upgrade from SX to GX?

@jpfl17

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB I did It that way. Im satisfied. 😁

I changed my mtb drive train from shimano xt to sram gx eagle this spring. I am 100% satisfied with sram gx. I will never go back to shimano.

I have NX transmission, no problem with shifting to big star, but considerable issues when shifting in mid-range. On the bike stand it shift good, but fails on a trail. Mechanic said the issue is in the cables, I am not sure.

yeah I agree with switching the sx derailleur with GX, it was my first and only upgrade for my roscoe 7.. never looked back

@renenavarro4121

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB so far is been great man.. I only switched the rear mech for the GX and is rock solid.. the 2021 model comes exactly the same as mine so I'm glad i picked the 2020. I ordered the nuke scout coming in soon cant wait!!

@DontsaveJlaff

3 жыл бұрын

Would a x01 eagle derailleur worked as well? My hightower is sx and ive started doing upgrades but not sure if the x01 would work on it

You should check out the new sram 52t stuff, I worked on installing an X01 520 group at my shop today and I was surprised by how well the shifting performance is on the 10t gap 42-52

beautiful video 😍😍😍😍😍😍

When my Commencal Meta TR 29 arrived, it was equipped with NX with GX Crank. Upon consulting SRAM, I immediately upgraded to GX Derailleur and Chain. Someday I may go to Eagle Cassette, but this is working great! Also, because of thumb injury, I upgraded to GX Twist Shifter (incredible how accurate it is and how fast you can shift to any range of gears). I love the setup, particularly climbing with the Meta!!! I don't need any more lower gears, and I don't want a bigger jump to a 52t, but I was wondering what you think of the new GX Derailleur as compared to the older one. P.S. Still riding my Trek 3x8 hardtail to work - love it too!

Super useful video! Thanks. The 3x9 XTR on my retro Specialised Enduro needs some serous servicing and I was wondering should I spend the money on NX Eagle instead. Now I'm confident, I'm keeping the XTR.

@liamjones4636

2 жыл бұрын

If you wanted the 1 by 12 I would say go for shimano deore 12 speed as its a lot more durable in my opinion.

Spot on review! I've been running an NX rear derailer on one mountain bike and Deore XT rear derailleur on another for approx. a year now and have come to find the NX is not as durable/reliable as the Shimano Deore XT. I recently swapped the NX derailleur out for a Deore XT rear derailleur and am very much appreciating the reliability in shifting :) I am interested with your suggestion to upgrade the mounting knuckle to see if that would make a difference.

@francoisellett7298

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB Does the SLX have the same tucked-in Shadow profile? Similar to the Deore XT.

@vikasshah2228

4 жыл бұрын

Can you replace NX derailleur to Shimano Deore 12 speed on an NX drivetrain? Also, do I need to replace the shifters as well?

I’m one person that doesn’t want a 12 speed cassette. I really like the idea of the micro shift advent x and the box prime 9. Big range, fewer gears. I just want a low climbing gear and a high gear for speed. Then a handful in between ought to do. Maybe you could review one of those to help me decide if I want to lose a few gears. Great info in your vid as always

@ns671fr

3 жыл бұрын

I get those kits are cheaper but if you're a cadence freak then those kits are not for you. Thats really the issue with wide range cassette shifting

@grey8607

2 жыл бұрын

12s is to much for an average biker

I have the SX Eagle on a $1200 hard tail. What upgrade would you recommend? And would there need to be any conversions necessary. I believe if I go above NX that I need to convert the Shimano hub.

What's the metallic piece on the chainstay right next to the chainring ? Did you add it or was it stock with the bike?

se agradece la traduccion al español excelente contenido seria bueno que otros canales imitaran eso

@Fukigaeshi

4 жыл бұрын

Completamente de acuerdo, es un placer poderlo ver traducido

I ended up with NX when the bike manufacturer and dealer upgraded upgraded my bike (for free!) to 1x and NX was the logical option given the HG freehub. I'm pretty happy with it BUT the DUB BB left bearing has died

@LoveMTB

Жыл бұрын

NX wirks fine if adjusted properly as you noticed.

Thank you for this video, NX rear derailleur's seem to go all loose like mine has now (in the mounting bolt as well as all the pivots), i can freely go ahead and purchase a shimano 12 speed derailleur now. Will all shimano rear derailleur's work do you know?

Any thoughts if the GX Lunar Max 52t derauiler is a better NX upgrade compared to the suggested Shimano SLX? From what I understand, the GX Lunar Max is backwards compatible to 50t (currently running Sunrace 11-50t) but unsure if it (GX Lunar Max) has the same short comings you describe with the 50t GX derauiler in the video.

I have Trek Xcaliber 8 with SX drivetrain. When upgrading to GX do I need to change hubs as well?

So I have a 2021 Norco Revolver FS2 100, its an XC race bike and I intend to race it. It has NX Eagle on it. I am wondering if the issues with NX Eagle are there from new or occur with wear over time? I was considering making some upgrades to Shimano but was wondering if I could maybe get through a season with the NX Eagle first before it started causing problems. Was thinking I would use XT RD and Cassette with SLX chain and shifter and then use One's Switch SRAM DM to put a Shimano compatible chain ring on the NX Eagle crank. I noticed you said you like the GX Eagle over the NX Eagle chain, I had understood the GX chain was the same just with a different coating. Would appreciate your thoughts.

Nice to know,especially because chain and cracks....thanks. Better expensive 1x then cheaper 3x...

On your intense spider can you switch to a SRAM XD freewheel? I have the same BoostHub on my Intense 951 and switching to a GX cassette could save a good amount of weight. Only issue is the incompatible freewheel. TIA!

Your suggestion. I plan to use 11-50t sram nx eagle pg 1230 cassette because it fits Shimano freehub. But use x01 derailleur because I want shorter cage and x01shifter because I want smooth and precise and double shift. And xx1 eagle 12 speed chain because that's available now. Chainring 34, 36 or 38 depending on availability. Do u think there will be any issues.

The SX 1 x 12, line came on my wife’s bike and I’d like to upgrade everything except the cranks and front sprocket. But new rear cassette, new rear derailleur, new shift levers. If I get the GX 12 series as an upgrade everything would match up think? You said shimano SLX might fit it too? I like shimano slx it’s what I have on my cannondale habit 6 and it’s given me no trouble in double the riding time of that of my wife’s with SRAM SX which doesn’t shift as well even when it was brand new 6 months ago. Thanks

Shimano doesn't sell 6mm offset chainrings, to use the 12s groupsets on non-boost frames. Is there ant option to use sram gpx chainrings with shimano rear derailleur? Thanks

So I can add a SLX shifter to my SRAM NX derailleur and it will work properly? I do not like the SRAM shifter

looking forward to your inevitable sram eagle gx v2 video... redesigned mech & cassette? will it still go out of sync on the top 2 cogs?...

@jamble7k

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB it definitely exists, one of my friends has the axs derailleur and it happens with that on a 10-50.... no sign of it on my xt 8100 though

I’m trying to get a 11speed xx1 cassette 1199 10-42 to work with my 11speed nx shifter and 11speed nx Derailer. And it’s not shifting very smoothly. And chain comes off When I back peddle it on the 42 tooth Are these parts compatible?

I am working on my friends Sram Eagle 12 speed, and that booger wont down shift from the biggest cog to the next smallest. I have to back pedal and then it will shift. It does shift from the biggest to the next smallest but it takes a long time. I am waiting for that B-screw adjustment plastic tool. Any advise of what might couse this?

@brendaleetv

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB Thanks!

Does the NX Eagle cassette work on Stan’s Neo DuraSync HG splined free hub driver?

Love the reviews is there a compatible slx Derailer for 11 speed

Noticed the crack in the chain link at 8:30 ? This is typical for cheaper sram chains

sram nx eagle cogs can fit to any hubs?.. like 10speed?.. thank you..

Is there a GX non boost? My bike is non boost therefore i should get a non boost crankset if i want to upgrade to a Nx or Gx right?

Hello, o want to opgrade from a nx to a gx axs but does it fits on a nx cassette? Its a 12 speed cassette. Greets Danny

I would like to upgrade to 11 speed 10 or 11 x 42. What would you recomend?

@Basement_CNC

3 жыл бұрын

i guess you already have chranks , look at the microshift advent 100$ or adventx 167$ buget and really good

Hi, noob question, if I change my chainring sx 30T to nx32T, should I need to change my chain too? I’m using fathom 1 29er 2021.

@joelycar2852

3 жыл бұрын

Tnk u.

Novice question here, but did you say you could upgrade JUST the derailleur to a Shimano SLX? Is that possible with preexisting sram eagle components? I would love to upgrade from an SX eagle on the bike I might buy, but the SLX seems cheaper and better than GX (forgive me if I'm wrong). I just didn't know if it was possible to mix and match brands. If not, would a GX eagle derailleur be compatible? Apparently the SX/NX parts use a different hub, so it wouldn't be compatible with the wheel? Any help appreciated :)

@sirivia7208

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB Thanks so much mate I just stumbled across your actual video on the shimano 12sp with sram components right after. Great video keep it up

I would NEVER trade the ability to downshift multiple gears so I can up shift multiple gears. I am never "in trouble" when I want to go faster, on the other hand I find it soooooo nice downshifting fast when I need it IE up a hill .

@Gamebit450

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB Thank goodness for that. Would make no sense just the one way. Do all lvls of shimano do this?

The 2022 Epic Evo comes with all NX drivetrain except for SX chain and X1000 Eagle crankset, its 2021 model comes with Shimano SLX levers and rear derailleur w/Deore chain and cassette. What model do you recommend? 2021 is only $50 less. By the way, GREAT video.

@stevenk6675

2 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB The drivetrain is the only thing different between the two.

@stevenk6675

2 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB Cheers...I'm glad I came across your video and appreciate your opinion. I'm going with the 2021 model.

I have a question. I have a NX eagle 12 speed. But I would like to upgrade it with a new GX 10-52t cassette. Is it possible or do I need to upgrade even more stuff to make it work?

@martinsetek5282

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB Thanks man, appreciate it!

when i bought my trek top fuel in nov, i had to special order the xt version, they tried to push the gx version on me at the same cost, i said no thanks, thats the road equiv of sora imo

@abtcup

4 жыл бұрын

GX would probably be closer to 105 in road group levels. Sora is pretty basic...below Tiagra.

@hambo76

4 жыл бұрын

@@abtcup Yeah agreed.

Can I use hope hubs with xt?

I have the same nx what am I supposed to do to upgrade to xx1 my cassette

congratulations for the excellent work. can i use sram sx with cassette 11?

@AlexssandroPhoto

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB I'll try. I have a cassette 11 (11-50) with 360 grams (0.36 kilos) and I didn't want to abandon it and use it. I will test with the xt8100GS and SX, however I will use the KMC chain of 11, and the shifters of 12, shimano and sram.

@AlexssandroPhoto

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB ok.

1:24 can anyone link video with shimano shifter replacement over NX?

Now this is my setup, NX Cassette and SLX M7100 RD w/ Deore XT M8100 shifter. I am looking for cheap but durable chain without sacrificing the shifting performance for this setup, could you help me please? Thanks

@LoveMTB

2 ай бұрын

X01 will last for ever!

I have sx and not sure if I should upgrade to nx or gx. Will a gx shifter and derailleur suffice if I was to keep it sx or best to upgrade nx or gx?

@christianmantuano3038

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB thank you. You have a lot of great content and information on your channel. Tx got the reply:)

Hi! I wanted to ask a friendly question if Sram is a bit more durable than Shimano? It's a Haibike with Deore XT (2x10) and I just need a new front chain ring (44T) every 3 weeks. It always looks like I used an angle grinder on it... This is unbearable...

@Bergwacht

2 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB Thanks for anwsering! 2-3 weeks after installing a new 44T chainring, the front derailleur starts throwing the chain over the chainring. If I adjust the front derailleur so that the chain cannot throw over the chain ring, then I can no longer shift up. its impossible to adjust, iam only able to stop that again and again with a new chain ring. I decide that it's worn out because every time after 3 weeks it looks as if someone had worked on it with an angle grinder, this time it's even bent. I asked if sram is more stable because then I only have one chain ring at the front and this whole front derailleur horror might end then. But can I still drive my 45 km/h on a straight with sram gears? The gear shifts with only one chainring in front all have so few teeth. And i still need my hill climbing gears. Sorry vor all that spam.

Nx sram eagle or sx sram eagle or deore m6100 better gs??

Can a nx shifter work with a sx deralier

How is sram x4 derailleur is it good one for beginners on light trails

@sujapramod9795

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude

Can anyone tell me if an NX derailleur is compatible with an XX1 cassette please?

Can I run SRAM NX 12 speed rarederailleur with SRAM SX 12 speed Shifter. Dose SRAM 12 speed NX or SX cassette are compitable with any other brand 12 Speed Hub.

@sammyp69

3 жыл бұрын

Well I run nx shifter with a sx derailleur so that should work

Is it better than the common combination of 3x7 Altus and Tourney?

@Joelrey2007

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

I have a question sir,i was planing to go sram nx and add shimano slx break set,or full shimano slx both 1x.i connot deside in which this two,maybe you can help me,

@barizto7494

3 жыл бұрын

What if i go to sram nx with sram hubs ,is it more affordable than shimano slx?

@barizto7494

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot sir

@barizto7494

3 жыл бұрын

Ok i understand sir thanks a lot,maybe i should go to slx bcoz it has a break set

So you can just bolt on a Shimano derailleur? No more 1/1 - 2/1 pull ratio differences?

@FletchyDog

4 жыл бұрын

Never mind...I just watched your video on this subject..awesome! Wish I knew this earlier, I've been through two GX derailleurs here in the last couple of months due to picking up a stick and bending them all up into unusable hunks. I had some degree of success bending them back into shape, but the crisp shifting just goes away once they get bent, you just can't straighten them back to perfect. (BTW, I have a hanger gauge, and the hanger stayed true in both instances) Can't help but think an XT mech will be much tougher and not bend as easily.

@FletchyDog

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB Yep, just did right before you replied. So, I can use the GX shifter with an XT derailleur? Thanks for putting out these videos, very helpful!

Any point in going from 11spd GX none eagle to 11spd GX eagle or better to just get shimano xt/xtr rear derailleur ?

@OugaBoogaShockwave

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB ok, didn't realize sram gave up on 11spd support. So my question is would the shifting be better if i switched to a shimano xt/xtr rear derailleur ? would that even work with the rest of my gx 11spd components ?

@OugaBoogaShockwave

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB THX but i am not looking for more range. i previously had the 2x11 XT group set but traded it for the GX set with grip shift. i kept the xt brake set since i like it more then the sram stuff. Thanks for the help, just hoping i still have "decent" option for 11spd in the future. i like shimano's durability so i might switch to it in the future while using grip shift since i hear there's none of that 1:1 / 2:1 actuation problems like 8,9 speeds had.

@OugaBoogaShockwave

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB No i didn't, guess i'am still stuck with the 90's & early 2000's. i Know there's a "mod" from 13 to make a trigger 11 to 12, but grip i have No idea. THX for the info. i just worry i get 12spd & viola 13/14 spd is the next BS.................Sad :( How much more wide can they make the rear triangle & the chain thin before it's just a waste ofr $$$ for the "average" user ? are they gonna do a 180 & do 2x something AGAIN ?

Can i use an xtr 12 speed shifter with a 11/50 sram cassette perfectly? Or not? Thank you.

@adamlukas3967

4 жыл бұрын

You could, but you will lose a hyperglide + of Shimano cassette (up and downshifting under load), also I think a cog spacing is a little bit different on Shimano and Sram cassettes. If you have enough money (you are asking about xtr, so I guess you have) you will be better with full shimano or sram drivetrain

@reynerlara5353

4 жыл бұрын

@@adamlukas3967 the reason i want to put a sram cassette is because i think xtr cassette is heavier than sram xx1 and sram is more open and avoid the mudd easier than shimano. What do you think?

@adamlukas3967

4 жыл бұрын

@@reynerlara5353 I don't know anything about the mud issue, sorry.

@reynerlara5353

4 жыл бұрын

@@adamlukas3967 sorry i mean mud. Sram o think the cassette is more open than shimano and lighter. What do you think?

@adamlukas3967

4 жыл бұрын

@@reynerlara5353 I understand you mean mud, still never heard anything about mud clogging cassette, maybe try to explain it more?

I have nx but I'm upgrading what's best gx or xt?

@letsallgetalong5499

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB right, that's that then, thanks!

overall..sx or nx?

Will an xt chain work with the SRAM sx?

@brandonmarks5807

4 жыл бұрын

LoveMTB I’m thinking of ordering an xt upgrade kit that comes with XT derailer, shifter and chain. Just wanted to make sure the chain would work with SRAM cogs

Post Shimano 12sp Deore release, any sram 12sp seems pointless unless you are locked into XD body. The cassettes are so much more expensive and combined with worse shifting it just seems pointless unless you go AXS, and even then I think I would possebly still rather have AXS with a Shimano cassette and chain. On one of my bikes I am just waiting for the cassette to wear out before I switch everything to Shimano.

I would upgrade to xt shifter and slx derailieur if i buy a bike that comes with nx or sx

@DEXVD

3 жыл бұрын

Why XT shifter over SLX? I was thinking I would go XT derailleur and SLX shifter.

Can i put 42t chainring instead of 32t with sx shifter? Top speed seems a little slow

I can tell you what I think! As a person just taking on his first frame up build this stuff is confusing and expensive!!!! “I’m way over my head”

@strix2035

2 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB I did, real good videos. But my biggest problem I think is over spending and buying better parts then I really need. Like do I really need 1x12 GX or Stan’s Flow EX wheels/ margura MT5 or MT7 brakes. I’m building a “Ragley Big AL hardtail. Mainly local trails and like 4X a year I’ll hit the bike park. I even do urban street riding. Oh I left out 925$ Rockshox Pike.

Seems like a setup-issue. After i dialed in my nx the shifting has worked flawlessly for a year or so. Never fails to shift, never overshifts.

I have the same cassette on scott scale 960. It is already broken after just one month. They make everything from cheese and sell it way too expensive these days ...

I absolutely agree with you, Shimano is way better thought and designed. My new bike came with X01 AXS, I have given a try and works perfectly tbh (after some tweaking), but if the derailleur breaks is going to be hard to pay 670€ just for it, i might have to buy a Shimano XT 12S one.

@ns671fr

3 жыл бұрын

Problem is if you have a bike like that you need to have the money to keep backing it. You can't for example go broke on the bike hoping nothing needs to be maintained just like a house or facility. You need to match your resources to what you are doing. If you're worried about an expensive derailleur id stick with a cheaper bike where parts are lower end and cheaper.

Slx over gx, what?

hi sir, i got Sram SX on my Scott Scale 930 and planning to change it to Deore M5100 since they have the same freehubs. is it worth it or just stick to SX?, tnx

@johnnazario5435

3 жыл бұрын

LoveMTB thank you very much sir

Love mtb ❌ Love Shimano ✅

hard to beat full sx drivetrain for 300 w. Crankset

@ns671fr

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB 80 bucks ain't bad for a replacement

@ns671fr

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveMTB and you shouldn't be replacing the rear derailleur unless you're a crazy rider, rough shifter, careless or a crasher. I have this 2000 deore xt 9 speed derailleur still works but the bike has battle scars. Unless you mean the general reliability is just not there even for casual riding

:o

I have this thumbs down because I have GX and Nx groupsets. I do not agree with his recommendation on throwing out a brand new Nx chain. How wasteful and unnecessary. The chain is fine if you look after it. I ride enduro in Ireland and the chain has held up well. He didn't like the shifting, has he checked the indexation and tried adjusting it

The screws that go into the SX plastic body really is bad. SX stands for sucks. Any respectable SRAM Eagle minimum has to be GX.

Before 2 days,one customer complaints about cassette 12 speed SRAM.....It skips when he is driving.....yes. I checked out,after 19 km last gear(small one)was destroyed!!!!19 km!!!!bad reputation for sram👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

However, however, however, just review. I couldn’t make it through the video. 👎

Putting scam on your bike is never an upgrade. Sorry sram.