Spy Tricks - Routes - Badwater Payload
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G'day all MrPaladin here.
This is a video series I have been wanting to do for the How a Spy Thinks series but I never got around to doing them.
Until NOW!
I want to look at the highly popular map Badwater Upward. It is a known fact that this map is found on rotation on nearly every server and is one of the most played. Some of these paths can be taken by the slower classes and some classes have other ways to cover the distances but Medics and Spy could learn a trick or two!
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Y'all have seen years and years of my badwater footage. But I bet ya don't know all my tricks!
@derkatwork33
3 жыл бұрын
A magician never reveals his tricks.
@danriley282
3 жыл бұрын
Yo! There are a few really easy ways to get to some of the spots that you were using that I'm not sure you are aware of. Namely regarding various rocks in the first point area. Also, there are a bunch of useful spots that you didn't point out that most wouldn't think of but are absolutely perfect for avoiding Pyros, and regaining cloak with C&D. Maybe I can show you sometime? I've been playing Spy since 2007. My Spy name is Orca. :)
@quavantiedingleton8872
3 жыл бұрын
This is cool
@bn0372
3 жыл бұрын
yea we dont paladin :)
@guscox9651
3 жыл бұрын
@@danriley282 le bruh moment doth commence
Uncle Dane: *Top 10 Bushes on Upward* MrPaladin: *Top 10 Rocks on Badwater*
@superfdrf3015
3 жыл бұрын
Then top 10 trees
@ii0000
3 жыл бұрын
@@superfdrf3015 vietnam be like
@keitoucreations2727
3 жыл бұрын
Then Top 10 Stairs/Ramps
@ii0000
3 жыл бұрын
@@keitoucreations2727 solarlight in a nutshell
@dr.infernous9342
7 ай бұрын
@@superfdrf3015 fatmagic
"I like to start over here" Now every sniper ever is going to shoot there out the gate
@GrotesqueMannequin
3 жыл бұрын
nice pfp alec
@GrotesqueMannequin
3 жыл бұрын
@@StreamerBTW99 lol yeah
@filipt9931
2 жыл бұрын
@@StreamerBTW99 me who plays btd6 but doesn't play tf2: oh I don't think so
@ameliekilgore4130
7 ай бұрын
And then if we’re on blu our team loses the game LOL
A lot of these work surprisingly well as medic too! People don’t really seem to ever notice out-of-place medics. Keep that in mind, all you battle medic mains
@CRRNCRW
3 жыл бұрын
Disguise as medic if enemy medic has a blutsauger. Noted.
14:30 : exists Blu engie who build nest there: Howdy partner
It's incredible the amount of attention mappers have to give to things for Spy, Engineer, and Sniper, as they often require certain things to be around; Spy requires decloaking and observing spots, Engineer needs places to put his buildings, and Sniper may need advantage points in certain areas. All this is accomplished while also keeping the flow of the map, it must be very tricky to pull off, but it makes all the difference in gameplay. Another thing, payload maps are great for Spy. On defense, the attacking team is often focused on destroying sentries and keeping the payload clear, making it easy to get a chainstab going near the payload. On attacking, the flank routes make it easier to get in, make a couple key picks, and get out before anyone really realized you were there. If anyone happens to be reading this, take the second part into consideration the next time you play a payload map if you've never thought about them before, it might help you do better as Spy, or do better against Spy, your choice!
Hey there, for the rail-platform jump near the third cp you can do a perfectly timed bhop to get on the platform, it's really tricky and need a lot of practice but it's really useful!
@MrPaladin
3 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@zamatif
3 жыл бұрын
A regular jump works too
@peterisawesomeplease
3 жыл бұрын
Really? I thought that was only possible on the pro version. Also get a soldier to whip you or dead wringer
@maxogorman3342
3 жыл бұрын
@@peterisawesomeplease dead ringer usage on that rail is such a good idea. Thanks
@speedgleb9389
10 ай бұрын
I think you can just circle jump without the bhop
Hey Mr paladin the jump on 9:34 can be made either by the speed boost of big earner and the speed boost of dead ringer
This is how thought out the map design of Badwater is. It’s probably why it passed the test of time alongside with Upward.
6:43 Im gonna be honest, I found it more shocking that these even existed then the fact they had physics, I genuinely have never seen these pipes, that or they're just incredibly forgettable
You are one of the few spy main KZreadrs who are actually calm and not "Epic trickstab 2013 compilation", i love your videos. They are helpful and useful
this will be incredibly helpful, thank you
Thank you for making these kind of videos, I want to improve as spy and Im sure this will be more then helpful :)
Thanks for everything MrP. The very man who taught me playing spy wasn’t all about cool trickstabs, how to decloak, and also how cute ferrets are. My freshman year just ended but you and many other youtubers keep inspiring me to take some time off to hop on a stalemate upward server or a chaotic 2Fort server to conga. Since I’ll be getting a job this summer I won’t have much time to play anymore but... TF2 has brought me years of joy ever since I started back in middle school. You’re one of the people who just kept that fire burning. Thanks again. Also, a new CTF map tutorial maybe? The other ones are quite “old” and I bet a lot of people would love to see some 2Fort spy :D
It would be great to see this theory combined with moments from the actual game, where you use these spots in action. :)
Idk why when I hear "Good day yall Mr Paladin here" it make my day feel better :) As always, nice video Lord Paladin
@OilyOaf
3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad your day is happy.
Mr paladin be like this part of the map was made for spies and it's every part of the map
Thanks, now I will make sure to check those spot twice.
Yet another great video, bad water is one of my favorite maps. I’m very thankful for your tips and tricks
It's been a while when I get a Mr P vid in my reccomended
The rock at 5:09 is also a good one to trimp off of as Demoknight.
Leaving this for the algorithm, you make great content!
Great tips, I'm going to try it... Connected to the server... 10 sniper bots spinning around the respawn exit... Oh...
There's also a glitchy spot at first Blu spawn at the fence area, if you wiggle with a and d while up against the wall, then jump while still pressing into the wall you can glitch onto one of those slanted podium things by the fence. I found it helps to look up while doing it.
very great content! keep up the great work!
Love that you're still going strong with the content Mr.Paladin! Also, please moar Paladins vids there are new characters out!
11:43 the ladder to your right can be a good surprise stairstab
Why do i even watch these vids? Spy is my least favorite class and yet i watch all these vids from you 😂
A spy version of Engineer Blueprints? Oh yes....
Good day Mr. Paladin, All here.
Woo! I'm so happy to be early to a Mr P video! I hardly keep up with youtubers so this is great XD But yeah, good tips for badwater, and really fun!
good tips for a new spy, keep up the good work mr p
YES NEW VID!!
This is a good one
pyros probably taking notes lmao
Thanks now im gonna spycheck those spots
I love your videos man
I haven't watched Mrpalidin for a while (thanks for teaching me spy) and i clicked on his badwater tips. I saw the overwatch clips and thought nothing of it. his classic int- WHAT THE. lol
Thank you mr.paladin, now i can hunt spy with wm1 really often with this knowledge in this map and protect my engy :D
@MrPaladin
3 жыл бұрын
The ability to hunt spy already resided in all of us! We simply don't use it
Thanks to your videos, I can always manage to time travel to 2015 Good times man...
yes Yes YEs YES YYEESS YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS my favorite KZreadr posted a new video
It's 11:41 pm here in the Philippines and I wasn't even waiting for any vids very epic ngl. Also have you guys ever played spy and actually do good then question yourself half of the match then proceed to be a noob for the next matches.
Very nice tricks
@georgewashington3918
3 жыл бұрын
@Enda Burns well what do you think?
As a Heavy main I find this info very insightful :D
your videos make me better at spy thanks :D
15:18 Oh, from now on I will. Be sure about that.
That moment when Mr Paladin uploads when you are asleep
Swing a Borneo one of these whould be nice. I think this series is very informative
@W0lf2128
9 ай бұрын
We were planning one but life always comes first. So it was thrown on the backburners
Some of my spots were given away in this video but I learned some new spots from this video so it should be fine
Oh my another day to learn new things 00:05
I just got a contract for badwater, god bless you.
lol, i always look up the stairs bc many classes use them, heavy on top, pyro on top, demo, solly. I also saw a lot of ppl checking it when i was waiting for someone to go up, thats why i stopped using them and started going to the back of the highground especially as solly, cause once in the open i can rocket jump to highground when they all looking to all eyes are looking at the staircase or 2nd cp
Me as a pyro main: *MMmmm yes, interesting*
Literally everyone watches those videos to mess with spy mains kek
4:25 you jump on those columns on the left side but it's bit tricky 9:35 you can make the jump with dead ringer or big earner speed boost
You can also pixelwalk the "pillars" on the wall and stand far above blu spawn. Or hide in the bush stabby use
9:30 i know its a year late but i found if you get the speedboost from the deadringer you can make the jump with a crouchjump reliably. Without it i dont think you can make it unless its Unit perfect jumping. But ive used the deadringers ability plenty to make that jump and get a nice chain going to get the cart moving again.
The jump from the rail to the platform on 3rd point is doable with a triggered dead ringer
you can make the jump from the spy highway to the little ledge up there if dead ringer has just been popped
Jump to C is possible with strafing I believe.
Box taunting is the best spy strat to flank the enemy
8:37 spyway. It was right there
thanks bro
Nice
OH MY GOD YEA
Would love to see Frontier routes
The badwater jump spot is possible if you bait a deadringer
Badwater is one of the best maps
9:45 I think you can make that jump with the speed boost from the dead ringer
@MrPaladin
3 жыл бұрын
We need a soldier with d. action stat!
9:40 i think you can make that jump if you get a speed boost from the Big earner or the Dead ringer, never tested it though :p
9:45 i can only make it if i get a good b-hop or if i use my ringer
MrP please now make a medic guide too, because the last time you made the upward guide, Soo many spies were playing and no one was even good and we couldnt get past the second point because no one was willing to go powerclasses and take out the nests.Thanks
thx
OMG i met you in some server have a good day :(
Anyone else noticed how he had a red box but was a blu spy at the start of the video
I've made the jump back up from the boards to the shack balcony once. I don't know how I did it and I have not managed to do it since.
with this new info, i should stay away from any rocks of any sort
gonna ever do a how a spy thinks video ever again? please :)
Lol most of the spots i discovered before you made this video
As a pyro main, I will find this VERY helpful
Hey are there any good spy tutorials for maps with very tight chokepoints like Hoodoo?
As a pyro main, I watch these videos to know how to piss of spies
Thank you versy much for this video and the tricks. Could you do a corner stab tutorial video maybe please?
@MrPaladin
3 жыл бұрын
I have one
@christophletzbor285
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPaladin Omg I didn´t see it!!! Noooooooooooooo. All this time I was blind. xD
i use the bumpy rock as an engineer all the time
All right time to wreck the toxic people
Mr paladin I love I your perfect spy tíos but people who don’t play spy will watch this and try to kill the spy’s who use your tricks
*oh god im gonna get backstabbed on badwater a bazillion times now*
Hi, I need your advise: In one server an enginier used some sort of anti-spy cheet and constantly killed me and was able to destroy my sapper without even being close to the sentry and was always able to see throu my disguise. He was able to one shot me with a jagger even tho I was full health with the big earner. when I play engi, it takes me at least 11 hits to kill a weeb spy. How can I fight against it if I stumble across one like that again?
Steam is great.
You do realize people are going to use this to make a spy's life harder, but you already know that XD
@MrPaladin
3 жыл бұрын
I mention it in the videos
@ChaseyBoyJones
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPaladin yeahaha
I SPARE NO EXPENSE
The jump at 9:45 is possible i just tested it, very hard though, but possible
@MrPaladin
3 жыл бұрын
If you could ever train yourself to consistently make it you'd become a monster there
There was this spy who was getting some good stabs and then at the end of the game called you (Mr. Paladin) bad and that you only do matador stabs
@MrPaladin
3 жыл бұрын
Haters gonna hate
Hey mr.paladin theres this thing called pixelwalking in tf2 this is possible thanls to sketchek you should hes how to pixelwalk video maybe you could use this as an advantage i dont know any of this type of stuff in badwater or in any other map because i have tried it but you should still give it try :D
Meet the spy
This is a great video but if only I can play without having server lag by bots
I get that every youtube spy is ceremonially accused of only playing with the casualest of casuals, but... in his experience, nobody looks up when they leave the tunnel, and nobody looks up when they go up the stairs to the roof. Wooooooooooooooooooow.
@tehrik0020
3 жыл бұрын
"Competitive spy footage" is...hard to make due to how stale the competitive meta is. Aside from extreme communication and knowledge, the current meta lineup Scout/Scout/Soldier/Soldier/Medic/Demo makes it impossible to be convincingly disguised as...anyone. Like literally you can't disguise because they bust you on sight. There's good reasons why Spy is considered the worst class in competitive TF2, and all these reasons are not relative to the class itself.
@Xander77Ru
3 жыл бұрын
@@tehrik0020 You don't have to play competitive to try and go against people who have the barest shred of a clue.
Meep meep
I’m watching this at 4 corners