Spy is the best Spy thing that ever spy happened to spy in TF2 spy.... if you spy don't understand spy that then why spy are we having this spy conversation?!?!?!?!?!?

@maksuzbrojony8221

2 жыл бұрын

sponke

@dsnahogaragames

2 жыл бұрын

PREGO

@LucanVaris

2 жыл бұрын

Still say Valve needs to toss a certain weapon I came up with into the game. That, or something similar: Death Dealer (Throwable Ace of Spades. Knife Replacement): Throwable, rechargeable (4 seconds). Target hit is Marked for Death for 7 seconds. -44% damage penalty. Cannot backstab. I mean, you mentioned "future subclasses," and I figure that Spy has been waiting long enough for a subclass of his own. One that's still "support" in design, but gives the Spy more of a reason to rely on his gun at medium range, as compared to relying on his knife at point-blank. It could give Informant builds more interactive play, rather than having said Informant sit under cloak for 99% of the game, only to come out for a desperation pick. It can change up just about every aspect of Spy's standard gameplay, all with the addition of a simple projectile-based card trick. Is it as good as a backstab? No, but it gives Spy a whole new trick to his arsenal, which is something that the Spy has been needing for quite a long time. Speaking of new tricks, here's an old concept of mine that can open up the Sapper slot for Spy: Dead Drop (Silver "Dead Ringer" Pocket Watch, Sapper Replacement): Throwable, rechargeable (20 seconds), cannot sap. On contact with environment, plays Dead Ringer noise. Can be thrown while cloaked. Deceptively strong, and exceptionally tricky, this little gadget was designed with one of Spy's strongest weapons in mind: Subterfuge. If someone's chasing you, and you wanna make a quick escape, you can throw this "Dead Ringer" off to the right, while you escape under cloak to the left. You can toss it behind someone, in order to get them to turn around for an easy backstab. You can distract enemies off the point, then pull a quick cap while they're not looking. You can confuse the enemy into thinking that there's more Spies on your team than normal, due to them *seeing* you use a regular cloak, but *hearing* that there's a Dead Ringer Spy somewhere. The possibilities for distraction and subterfuge are practically limitless. As for why the Dead Drop is in the Sapper slot, well... imagine if you're in a Casual match, and there's no Engineer. Exactly how useful is a Sapper going to be? It's gonna be dead weight, unless you wanna beg the enemy team to start building sentries and dispensers for you. As such, I feel like the Spy could expand the Sapper slot into being more of a "utility/tricks" slot, where some of his more gimmicky devices can be placed. This could open up unique devices to tamper with the Medic's healing beam, or blanket areas with smoke bombs, or even give the Spy his fabled Tranquilizer Darts back. If the enemy team has learned all of the Spy's tricks (and they most certainly have by now), then that's all the more reason to open up a whole new bag of them.

@yodatcs1439

2 жыл бұрын

Because spy

@BorgBunnie

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to Spy how much spy are ya?

The Spy and Engineer are simply the most unique classes, they are completely different from anything before. I think that this is why they are my most played classes.

@e2b265

2 жыл бұрын

What about Torbjorn? This was a joke brought to you by the bad jokes gang.

@a.g.g5000

2 жыл бұрын

Engineer is the sole reason i spent 1,9000 hours in tf2

@elfascisto6549

2 жыл бұрын

They are not the most played. Those are Soldiers and Snipers

@Glacorite

2 жыл бұрын

@@elfascisto6549 They're HIS most played. Not THE most played

@Craz-three4me

2 жыл бұрын

@D. Enzo I agree. Engineer n spy both have the most unique weapons, ways of doing their role effectively, and putting skill. For engi its giving him ways of defending or attacking no game couldve thought of. For spy its giving him ways of putting the risk in risk n reward situations. Might need to push back but dont risk losing all your buildings? Rescue ranger. Wanna try risking a pick on the medic and get out swiftly? Dead ringer or big earner.

Engineer is my friend and Spy is my enemy. Unless you swap the teams and then the Spy is my friend and the Engie is my enemy... damn.

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

But the engineer is a spy! An you are over there picking up the ammo see!

@gigacat9761

2 жыл бұрын

As a medic or demoknight main this hurts my soul

@engineergaming3830

2 жыл бұрын

Risemonger MrPaladin is lying trust me I'm your friend :)

Without engineer we wont have uncle dane and without spy we wont have mr p

@tf2sushi

2 жыл бұрын

or stabby stabby!

@krakennvlyat

2 жыл бұрын

And without sniper we wouldn’t have had StickMaster500.

@krakennvlyat

2 жыл бұрын

And without soldier we wouldn’t have sound smith.

@tigermaus5748

2 жыл бұрын

What a sad world that would be

@johnnystankiewicz295

2 жыл бұрын

@@krakennvlyat the entire video talks about spy and engineer

"Oh, and Spy also has a gun." Yup. That about sums it up.

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

The tranq gun was sooooo important! Now the guns are meh point click be like the other classes

@brothercharanus1927

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, I could have just shot my target instead of trying to pull off a trickstab?

I love how chill Mr.P is

@noogzymcnoogz4072

2 жыл бұрын

Same doe. Especially because when i play spy i shake like i got Parkinson’s lmaooooooooo

@C-OCEAN

2 жыл бұрын

@@noogzymcnoogz4072 same

@C-OCEAN

2 жыл бұрын

@@noogzymcnoogz4072 same

@C-OCEAN

2 жыл бұрын

@@noogzymcnoogz4072 same

I came late to TF2, so whenever somebody reminds me that the Pyro didn't originally have air blast, it always blows my mind. It feels so necessary to the class now.

@mihaiteodor7763

2 жыл бұрын

phloginastor mains: What's air blast?

@FronkZappa

2 жыл бұрын

I could only play on PS3 for many years before I got a PC, so it was vanilla TF2 and a few maps. Demoman and soldier were absurdly oppressive, pyro was essentially a meat shield in 3/4 circumstances on most maps, and trying to play spy was generally a nightmare, unless against inexperienced players. Pyro definitely got a much needed buff and, despite memes today, weapons and abilities that give them much more depth today. On ps3 you were good for spy checking, running into an enclosed area mindlessly, sometimes an uber and little else.

@bigmanliam

Жыл бұрын

@@FronkZappa old tf2 sounds so fun and chill tbh

@highlandstorm0137

Жыл бұрын

@@mihaiteodor7763 people who use the phlog are into pain.

Considering that both are dependent on team play to be sucessfull, they definitly are. (Engi needs his team to push and pressure his enemies so they cant focus on his buildings. While spy needs his team to distract the enemy and to push after he gets the picks and makes his play). I'd argue even medic is less team dependent since even a mediocre team can be healed into being usefull.

@tehrik0020

2 жыл бұрын

Everybody knows how to shoot a gun, not everyone knows how to not get shot by a gun. Medic makes it so you'll never need to learn how to not get shot.

I totally agree that Engineer and Spy are major things that separate TF2 from others. Things like Paladins or Overwatch just don't have a true comparison. In my opinion, the third biggest difference is player count. TF2 allows 12 v 12, and you can have multiples of the same class on the same team. Because of this, Spies can do their job and disguise, whereas in 6 v6 games they don't even have disguise mechanics because it wouldn't work. Anyone would immediately be able to tell they had an extra person on the team, especially if it was a duplicate. I think Overwatch allows duplicates but for the most part nobody does a duplicate unless they are doing a meme, but even then, in a 6 v 6 there isn't much room for memes or doing your own thing as a duplicate. Because TF2 allows 12 v 12, it completely changes the dynamic, and allows for Spy and Engineer to truly exist. Spies can cloak, Engineers can make more buildings and have more fun, and teams can be vastly different from game to game, and not just "Healer, tank, flank, damage, other dude" kinda deal. It could be all damage one day, a bunch of snipers the next, way too many Heavies, you never know. Plus, in a 12 v 12, there's rooms for newbies to be confused and walk around awkwardly. In a 12 v 12, there's rooms for memes and silliness. In a 12 v 12 there is plenty of room for mistakes. In a 6 v 6 if you are a newbie messing up, you could cripple the entire team. In a 6 v 6 if you are doing a meme, you could throw the game for the whole team. In a 6 v 6 if you are trying to relax but everyone else is being mega competitive, it's super stressful. In TF2 you can basically do whatever you feel like, whenever you feel like, and NOT ruin the entire game. You can have a dance party, be uber-competitve, chillax and just stroll around and do some damage here and there, whatever you want, because there is ROOM for it. Odds are, you are NOT going to be the reason the team loses, because there should be plenty of other players on your team. So... we can all thank the base 12 v 12 for allowing our beloved game to exist Tl;dr: The 12 v 12 allows Spy and Engineer to exist, and has allowed our entire unique TF2 culture to form.

@wotruannwah5678

2 жыл бұрын

AFAIK Overwatch doesn't allow dupes anymore

@mee091000

2 жыл бұрын

Yes 12 vs 12 was a genius idea and to be honest I wouldn't mind seeing 16 vs 16 one day.

@mee091000

2 жыл бұрын

@@wotruannwah5678 Another reason I'm glad I don't play that game

@he3004

2 жыл бұрын

@@mee091000 i think community servers got that

@davidmacdonald1855

2 жыл бұрын

totally agree with you about player counts. 12 v 12 is tf2. Thats why its always bothers me when they seem to make weapon nerfs based on what competitive players want. 6v6 is just a game mode like mvm or passtime.

As an old dude who played QWTF during it’s heyday too, I think you can expand to TF2 medic as well. I don’t think there was a healing class before the medic of QWTF, healing with an axe. In the expansion of healing classes, like in Battlefield, wasn’t more than just throwing med/health packs. The heal beam of TF2 is wholly unique as is the Uber. I think it’s okay is so important and unique that it separates TF2 as well. Honorable mention to pipes/stickies for demoman, I’m not sure if it came before or after Duke3D which had the same mechanic, but it could have been created in tandem since they both released in the tail end of 1996. Anyway thanks for the nostalgia trip with this video.

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

And people think overwatch Brigitte is a new idea hehe

That's what I was trying to explain to a friend asking why I find other FPS games boring. Without the engie, spy and medic it's just about aim instead of tactical skill.

@trigger_once

2 жыл бұрын

Play R6. It’s more about its gadget play and smart positioning than most other shooters, maybe even more than TF2.

@V1sby

2 жыл бұрын

Cs, valorant and r6 for example take way more tactical skill than tf2. The smaller teams make tactics and strategy more important. Also your claim that medic, engineer and spy make the game more tactical don't apply in tf2 6v6.

@Nitosa

2 жыл бұрын

@@V1sby I find that the style of tf2 which is more casual, compared to other team games makes it unique. Like all the other noted games stresses me the fuck out knowing my fuckups heavily influence the game since the group are mostly 6v6. And the art of tf2 give a more fun goofy feel compared to other.

@Nitosa

2 жыл бұрын

Also tf2 is really flexible with how you play, since weapons, play styles and you heavily effect the game without being a lesser that someone who always plays optimal. Team in tf2 is more for fun objective than to win as a team.

@V1sby

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nitosa i agree tf2 is more casual fun than csgo for example.

"Scout only runs and shoots, pyro is only wm1, soldier is run and shoot, demo is just sticky spam, heavy doesn't take skill because large spread, clip, and damage with health, engineer is unskilled by spam, sniper is just every shooter, spy is cursed hitreg"--That one fricking moron

@Moss_Dude

2 жыл бұрын

"When nobody takes skill, everyone does."

@Harry-et7dc

2 жыл бұрын

I beg that moron to tell me the difference between "run and shoot" and "wm1"

@Moss_Dude

2 жыл бұрын

@@Harry-et7dc Scout uses wasd+m1

@Harry-et7dc

2 жыл бұрын

@@Moss_Dude ok

Good Video and I agree all classes are unique but spy and engi are to guys that make TF2 unique

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

This guy gets it

@mishael1339

2 жыл бұрын

I would argue that Spy and Engineer aren't the "Bread and Butter" of TF2. They are the Special Sauce, the Salt and Pepper. You can't have a proper round without the other classes (hell, that's why 6s and prolander run them the least often), but it won't be TF2 if you take Spy and Engineer out.

15:56 At least with Barik they're very obvious about it, with his Engineer skin xD

That RED Medic in the thumbnail is 31 different flavors of screwed.....

TF2 will always be my favorite. Even if everyone leaves making me the ONLY player left. Nobody plays it anymore and I couldn't convince anyone to play it with me. I would still play it and enjoy it as if it was my favorite as always. TF2 is the biggest thing in my life as half of my life has been playing this game and enjoying it while making good friends and memories. If TF2 was somehow taken down or removed. People would remake it very quickly. TF2 will never die.

@noogzymcnoogz4072

2 жыл бұрын

SAME. Except im newer. I fell in love with tf2 after a nasty break up. I wont go into dets on it but it was bad. Soooooo thank GOD for tf2 and i hope it goes further then it is right now.

@arbiter6859

2 жыл бұрын

I just wish it revives again a game i am hooked into for months and the only game where you can conga line in the middle of the match or a game where you laugh so frequently every few matches.

@elgatochurro

2 жыл бұрын

It has the most players now then ever before

I will die on the hill that spy vs engineer is the most interesting and possibly the most balance matchup in the game, yes soy is the counter but is very very easy to mess up as a spy against an engie and there is a lot and I mean a lot of ways to trick the spy just like the spy tends to trick you

One of the reasons I even started playing TF2 was because of the Spy and Engineer. When I was first introduced, I saw the Spy and Engineer and was blown away by how unique their mechanics were compared to mechanics in other generic fps games which lead me to play TF2 more and more.

I main Engie and Spy and have been thinking about this as well. They're the most unique, most interesting personalities in the game to me and haven't been replicated since 2007 unlike the other classes.

I cherish every MrP tf2 video that comes out. A warm reminder of my golden era of tf2. I know the game is still there, but it's changed somehow. Or maybe be I've changed.

It's so interesting -- and important -- to think about why TF2 is the game it is, as an evolution of the DOOM/Quake-era multiplayer games and their mechanics. This is easily one of my fav vids of yours, super interesting and thought-provoking :)

Woah no way, I never knew that the Spy and the Engineer created the game know as Team Defence Fort 2

1:34 silly Mr P you can't sap a demo

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

Sure ya can! you just gotta believe!

@awesomeness9824

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrPaladin I believe in you

Fun fact, in tfc, spies were able to throw grenades while disguised and keep their disguise (similar to the sapper). This made spies a counter to engineer even in tfc since they can lob a couple grenades at the engine's buildings without the sentry gun retaliating.

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

And gas nade the engineer so he cant tell you are doing it

RIP Saharan set indeed. Yes, it needed to be removed, but it was fun while it lasted

Spy and Engie, I will agree, are the primary basis for what sets Tf2 apart from other games, even with Tf2 having a variety of other gameplay differences(rocket jumping, market gardening, sticky jumping, etc), Spy and Engie are the main differences between this and other shooters. Now granted, I think Planetside 2 does a pretty good imitation, but it's still not quite the same.

@pixavier9746

2 жыл бұрын

Planetside 2 is a game totally different that has nothing to do with TF2, having a character that becomes invisible and one that build things is not enough to make those characters "imitations" of TF2.

@mdbgamer556

2 жыл бұрын

@@pixavier9746 Ok, I was tired at the time and couldn't think of a better word. XP

@pixavier9746

2 жыл бұрын

@@mdbgamer556 It's ok, I'm not mad or something, I just wanted to clarify that.

This isn't even controversial to me. It's just a fact

if you take the game at his core then yes I think that spy and engineer is what makes them special because rocket jumping was already a thing in quake and everything else but if you go to the stade that it is in right now you have trimping you have sticky jumping you have the scout mechanics like like dealing damage to have more jumps or speed I think if you take any classe out the game wouldn't be the same great video I love fps games and your content is amazing :)

Small hardhat man, tuxedo lobster, grenade cyclops, all these wonderful folk made tf2 so great in art style and game play, and hats.. But short hardhat person and Frenchman suit enthusiast as you said also contributed so much.

You single handedly got me into playing spy after I thought I never would, taught me how, and introduced me to some of the most fun and Unique gaming experiences I’ve had in a shooter. You also convinced me not every spy is the stereotypical edgelord with a giant ego, and because of you I rarely even rage when I die to spy because I just see him as a key part of the game

It's ways so great to listen to a Mr. P commentary video to fall asleep, not that it's boring, he's just very relaxing to listen to :)

it's 3am i have nothing to do until i remember the time where tf2 was rlly popular, around 2016 watching you is rlly nostalgic, the different kind of nostalgic, the one that can rlly make you feel emotional, it's been 8 years and you're still making vids Mr.P thank you for my childhood being really memorable!

Watching a Sentry in TF2 build is satifying

Spy and Engineer always have been my favorite character ever No wonder i main both of them

I think the most innovative thing about TF2 is being able to throw pee at your foes.

idk if youll ever read this but your videos have really made me so much better so thankyou for all the time and effort you put in to recording/uploading

Well rounded and thought through argument, that's what i like to see! :)

I also think that the placement and fast recharge of ammo packs (especially large ammo packs) don't really affect the 7 other classes except spy and engi who need them the most. In tf2 all classes have a lot of ammo and if they run out of ammo and killed someone while doing so, they can refill 50% of their ammo with that medium ammo box. Classes such as heavy or maybe pyro consume ammo for their primary the fastest, but due to that medium ammo pack running out of ammo isn't a common issue. Spy and engi on the other hand gain cloak and metal from those boxes which consumes _way_ faster. They rely on those boxes so no wonder why engi can set up a metal dispenser that provides metal over time or spy's ability to pick up ammo boxes while being invisible so he can take them from enemy territory. Health packs are a different story.

The Soldier started Team Fortress(cuz Quake), and then Spy & Engi made TF2 into what it is - a phenomenon that is still alive, despite bots, random crits, and even devs abandoning the whole thing.

They are also the most different classes in terms of gameplay. Engi seta up shop in a point and defends it safely while spy goes behind enemy lines for risky stabs

Awesome video, I love the old versions of Team Fortress! Some versions still have a player base but it’s mostly competitive pickups now, which is a real shame as I missed the pubs due to me being of the younger generation. I know a group of people recently updated the original Quakeworld TF and named it FortressOne, mostly the same but Soldier has laser grenades that act as the nail grenades but with less of a radius. Spot on with pointing out how influential Team Fortress was and how pivotal Engineer was in defining it. Mods such as Natural Selection wouldn’t have happened without the Engineer class paving the way.

I find your logic solid and near unassailable, Mr. P.

I think it would be fair to praise TF2 for another 2 things that made it so much different and so much more fun: damage falloff and the heavy focus on "hit or miss" weapons. 1) Damage falloff may not be the absolute innovation yet it works just perfectly in TF2. It balances the combat in such a way that every character has got their own preferable range, and, the most important, it prevents rapid-fire weapons like miniguns, smgs and syringe guns from being absolutely OP. Like, look at most team shooters like CS, Valorant and so - you take two fast shots from a pistol or an assault rifle from a mile away and get killed. 2) And this leads us to the second genius and quite unique decision: hit or miss weapons. Many players might not realize it but this is exactly what makes combat in TF2 feel so different from other shooters where 90% players use only rapid-fire guns. It makes players' mindset and playstyle different and makes the impact from each shot a hundred times better. If you miss, you messed up, if you landed the shot you feel it and it's awesome. And again, all rapid-fire weapons in TF2 are greatly nerfed in one way or another which really shows how important it is. If not these two things, Heavies, smg snipers and scouts would absolutely dominate the game (kina funny that even in such hypothetical scenario scout is top tier...). Also, weirdly, this limitation makes the rapid-guns feel better as well in TF2. When you use them, you feel that it's a special kind and can feel it's power when your tracking is good unlike most shooters where such weapon is nothing special and you have to have strong tracking anyway.

11:55 "Why did you do it Valve?" ... *WHACK*! *Soldier Death Scream* LOL

Spy really is a counterpart to Engineer. An engineer focuses on keeping their own team reinforced and secure, while a Spy focuses on keeping the enemy separated and paranoid.

Always a good day when you post Mr.P.

I think the most teamwork-based thing I experienced in gaming was Unreal Tournament's link gun. You could use its alt-fire to link to someone else with a link gun and super charge their link gun making it so WAY more damage and repair more hp on vehicles.

But what if the engineer is a spy? Double friend or enemy?

Great presentation. I always like hearing Team Fortress history

love youre vids keep up the good work and dont forget that it will get easier to make videos when youre having some fun!!

Medics giving infections and detpacks were already in Quakeworld TF. And back then you spychecked yourself by swinging your axe so teammates won't spycheck you, cause friendly fire was enabled ;) I do miss friendly fire from old school multiplayer shooters. It adds another complexity layer and teaches trigger discipline, also can immediately solve the spammy clusterfuck the TF2 is known for.

I love how in some of your videos, you use Metro 2033 music for your intro, called "Roadhouse". Your content is amazing also.

And my favorite class is The Spy. Thanks, and have fun.

Very good video! And most important thing that was said there "all classes are important"

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

They were more importanter in TFC tho... sadly

Man Mr. Paladin is so calm, I love how relaxed he is. So soothing, keep it up dude.

@hahahayden1

Жыл бұрын

You’re late by a year to tell him to keep it up.

I was just going back on a nostalgia trip, and this pops up :D love you Mr.P!

That medic at 1:10 is a sryinge gun god. I also agree with mr paladin's take on engie and spoi, But for me its cause spy reminds me of how the creeper was added into minecraft cause it was a cool looking bug. and spy was also a cool looking bug

@thomasgarciaparrett373

2 жыл бұрын

No he just practices medicene

2:29 lol the medic

Quite simply no other game that currently exists has gameplay like the spy. And until one does, ill have to stick to tf2.

hi mister paladin :) been binging your vids bc i cant sleep and then i see this !! great timing

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome!

blue team on payload. mrpaladin: its all coming together

Spy also had an super shotgun and frag grenades. Imagine an tf2 spy running around with an shotgun.

I would argue Pyro is also very unique. Not greatly designed but unique

The engie now has his EMP grenade that disabled buildings in zombie infection mode

"heres my take on a tf2 hot take" *Proceeds to make the coldest take in tf2 history*

haven’t watched it yet but i can tell it’s a good video good job 👍

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

Trust, no sus

The topics mentioned make me want to bring up how much various Minecraft minigames and mods have affected the gaming landscape, including but not limited to FPS games. Things that come to mind are Minecraft Hunger Games (I feel like Fortnite is a more polished version of Minecraft Hunger Games), factory/industry mods that led to Factorio, FortressCraft Evolved, etc.

I was Pyro for several years... YOU are the guys who's make me a *good* Spy, and a *very good* Engineer (looking for your Spy-strats) with your videos. The spy mechanic's are so *1) out-of-law* & *2) perfect* refined...then even new battle-classes-styles-fps can't approach it. Its like parrallelism in-game. If you play TF2 for the first time, i think you gonna learn it pretty fast... Then you gonna die by a Spy....deguised to medic healing you 2second ago...*"OKKkk, this game is more complicated than he's lookin"*... An other point who's make TF2 so unique (for me) ; the game force you to coop in every situtation. You can't have point with only "Frags" like lot of game, of just ignore the other players to win. You need to manipulate your gameplay with your team. Every classes is balanced for cooperation with other classe on little details. (again, exception for Spy, who's he is -alone- with ennemy everytime). I hope you gonna talk about this one day (if is not already done). That why every time i see one of your Spy-f*H&^@-freacking-monster-gameplay video...I launch TF2 again. Thx to Valve for TF2, and creation of Spy/Engis.. Thx you for making visible what makes them so unique.

Mr P being so passionate that he peaks his mic is heartwarming.

The amount of medics in this video

It is called Team FORTRESS after all.

ok, maybe you're right. I just love soldier and demo and the payload gamemode. Hats are the reason this game was sold out. Also I loved the history lesson in this video. not that i didn't know any of it though, but it's cozy to listen to

so that's why I like playing engie, spy, and medic

Engie and spy are these 2 always arguing guys, but they still hanging out together.

Thanks for good video

i was thinking the same

1:33 spah sappin' mah demo

How do you choose between the Dead Ringer, Cloak and Dagger, and stock Invis Watch? Do you choose by situation, or is it just a matter of what you feel like?

I've never heard Mr paladin get so passionate

This was great. I've already watched all of your TF2 videos. Thumbs-up on every one. The only other TF2 player I watch is B4nny, both Twitch recordings and KZread. Part of what I love about your TF2 videos is that you have interesting things to say as well as great game play.

11:55 yeah I really loved the idea of grenades but I guess it's for "balancing reasons"

YESSS tf2 UPLOADDD

What can i say except i love your video

This is a bit late, but I believe Fortress Forever, a TFC 1.5 so to speak, had spy with a cloak and "sabotage" aka pseudo sapper before TF2 was even in Orange Box pre-order early access.

Truth

As a Spy and Engineer main this puts a smile on my face.

Just a friendly reminder about how "Generic FPS" does not mean "Bad FPS" For example, Halo is a generic FPS but it by no means a bad FPS (Halo 4 onwards maybe feel different but that's another story) COD is a super generic FPS and not all of its game instalments are by any means bad :)

I’m late but spy and engineer separated TF2 from other shooters and the characters and art style gave it it’s thriving community. Both keeps it alive today

I feel like I've seen this gameplay footage before in another video.

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

Some was, some wasn't. There were bot infestations when I took time to get some fresh stuffs

9:09 that is ground breaking if the ground is soft and fragile though

Medic mains: you have 3 days to live

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

*disguised as medic* anyone seen that despicable spy?

@Killerbee4712

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrPaladin Everyone back to the base, Partner

I think part of why the other games failed to reproduce the dynamic of Tom Jones and Dell Conagher is because of the sheer number of separate characters. With dozens of fundamentally different characters and comparatively very small team sizes there's virtually no way to create a dynamic between two of them, cus you don't see them facing each other, like, ever. In Tf2, because there are 9 characters and teams are made of 12 people, it's a lot more common for any given duo to face each other. And part of why that's possible is because diversifying weapons gives you all the gameplay customisation you need without ever needing to release entirely new characters.

Mr. P: Back in the days...

12:00 so satisfying to watch 😊

That’s cute and all but, *rocket-jumping*

@MrPaladin

Жыл бұрын

Rocket jumping was in quake. TF being a quake mod kept it in

You amazing bro

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words

True

man those team fortress classic weapons sound so cool 😔

's true, Engie and Spy have different power levels and dynamics than OW. In OW, Torb is just whatever, barely even a class, but TF2 pushes are built or lost around whether the sentry gun's been taken out yet, with ubers, flanks, and of course Spy brought out to negate it. The respect for the sentry is much higher than Torb's turret, and while no class or role is 'mandatory' in TF2, Engie might as well be a role of his own.

7:40 Your forgetting about overheal, which is not something you can just forget about. Overheal is very important, and what I think makes medic truly one of the strongest classes in tf2, besides Übercharge. Overheal is basically this games version of armour.

@MrPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

Kunai is weakened by overheal!