Spriggan: Then Vs Now

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Today we’ll be talking about Spriggan, a manga that received an animated movie in 1998 and about half a month ago (i.e, 24 years later), had a series debut on Netflix. Comparing certain scenes side-by-side or even just their overall runtimes might tip you off that despite being based on the same story, these anime offer very distinct experiences. But for those unfamiliar with any version of Spriggan, what exactly is it?
Chapters:
0:00 Old vs New Adaptations
1:00 Artifacts, ARCAM, and Spriggan
2:26 Spriggan “versus” Spriggan
3:17 The minds behind Spriggan ‘98
4:33 Spriggan ‘98’s Animation
5:45 Adaptation, Atmosphere, and Tone
6:48 Story Structure
7:53 Yu Ominae’s double life
9:35 Merging 2D & 3D
10:43 The Future for Spriggan on Netflix
12:03 Conclusion
#Netflix #Spriggan #Anime

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  • @Latinkon
    @Latinkon Жыл бұрын

    The 1998 version felt like a 1980's unapologetic Hollywood action flick, and I loved it for what it was. The Netflix version feels tonally different from the film, which might throw off some fans of the movie.

  • @platonicbuu7454

    @platonicbuu7454

    Жыл бұрын

    I liked them both.

  • @sargera1

    @sargera1

    Жыл бұрын

    netflix dont use near face details

  • @JacobJohnson-lh4gx

    @JacobJohnson-lh4gx

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't watched the series yet but base on your comment I'm lowering my expectations, the movie for me was really good. I watched it not knowing anything about the series, and the movie alone made me a fan of the IP. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint me, I gave Vinland Saga a watch after being a fan of the manga for years and the staff delivered quality service.

  • @DGP406

    @DGP406

    Жыл бұрын

    The netflix version is faithful to the source material in that regard, however.

  • @raul76603

    @raul76603

    10 ай бұрын

    I don't really care because I didn't see the movie and I really liked how much better it look than before it was a huge improvement if you ask me. To bad they only had 6 episodes I really wanted to know what was going to happen because the ending had a cliff hanger

  • @VPixll
    @VPixll Жыл бұрын

    Spriggan and Edgrunners made me want more Ghost in The Shell in a good way and that's all I needed from them.

  • @superiormusic
    @superiormusic11 ай бұрын

    I was a die-hard fan of the '98 version, so I went into the show with cautious optimism. And I can safely say it not only met my expectations but reignited my appreciation for anime all over again

  • @Narinjas

    @Narinjas

    5 ай бұрын

    Modern doesn't actually mean better, there is a difference between remake and reinterpretation, but then again, that was a movie, this is a show, the show should be better for characters, but they should hold the movie visuals in mind, because of the age gap, but budget is everything now, and we have many overworked and underpaid animators, because of the offer/demand death spiral... Anyway, because of the new show, i found and discovered the old movie, and it's an absolute banger.

  • @realamericannegro977
    @realamericannegro977 Жыл бұрын

    This show is sick. I've been wanting to see this movie for years. The show doesn't disappoint.

  • @kyomuksn4083
    @kyomuksn40832 жыл бұрын

    Definitely watching a season 2.

  • @JinxTheLooneyToon915

    @JinxTheLooneyToon915

    Жыл бұрын

    And 3 and 4 and 5 and 6.

  • @thejinxedcat3616

    @thejinxedcat3616

    Жыл бұрын

    No one has been talking about it and I'm worried that people don't like enough and I hope it does get enough popularity too get more seasons.

  • @Ku4n-

    @Ku4n-

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thejinxedcat3616 still waiting

  • @thejinxedcat3616

    @thejinxedcat3616

    Жыл бұрын

    I am still waiting on it too.

  • @thejinxedcat3616

    @thejinxedcat3616

    Жыл бұрын

    I am still waiting on it too.

  • @androyus
    @androyus2 жыл бұрын

    This is a great content for people who aren't familiar with Spriggan. Keep it up & keep them coming 👍.

  • @Realistic_Soul47
    @Realistic_Soul47 Жыл бұрын

    This is a treat for people who like action anime movies

  • @vinylexpressions2942
    @vinylexpressions29422 жыл бұрын

    Wasn’t sure how I’d feel about the Netflix adaptation, but now I’m feeling ready for it. Appreciate you, Anime Network!

  • @shogun2heroicvictories15
    @shogun2heroicvictories152 жыл бұрын

    The movie was great in its own way, I still remember the action scenes vividly cause they were that well animated. While the writing was not as strong, it has its moments, where more was packed into the movie than the NF episode for Noahs arc. The NF Series follows more closely with the Manga, which is nice, but I also enjoyed the much darker movie. Which is weird as NF series, showed a married man basically turned into mincemeat, while the movie had a student do a suicide bombing and Ominaes darker past. Either way I will keep watching, its just a shame his suit glows like he is in another shonen anime.

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    how is glowing armor bad the mix of his grounded an lively personality with others paired with that Spriggan darkness just works haha glow dammit shine an be beautiful

  • @brucekendall9873

    @brucekendall9873

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I liked the darker tones hand drawn way better and always will and that's just 90s anime. You can't beat it. It's just more tasteful hands down and more fun to watch. Idk how he can say that doesn't count against the new one, it's an anime movie that is literally the most important part it's Spriggan. And I feel a lack of appreciation for the very creative and well executed experimentation why watch something if it doesn't make you feel something new

  • @brucekendall9873

    @brucekendall9873

    Жыл бұрын

    I also hate the rly bad corny comedy school shit put into everything now. It's cheap and immature and I don't understand defending that choice

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brucekendall9873 its more Manga accurate having him mess around an try to meet up with his friends so u saying the movie is proper is BS

  • @angrymetalhead
    @angrymetalhead Жыл бұрын

    Netflix series butchered the noah's arc storyline imho. Kinda felt like they made Ominae into yet another edgy anime teen too. He is dumb and silly and wreckless in the movie but it felt much more genuine to me, owing to the fact that they did show some of his dark past in the movie which helps explain his somewhat reckless attitude . But in the series he is just like that for seemingly no reason other than "hurr durr dark edgy anime teen hurr durr". Just didn't make enough sense for me to continue to watch it. Also excusing the difference in animation quality because the original was a big budget anime movie doesn't really hold water to me, especially considering that netflix definitely isn't short on production budgets... And the whole comedic banter in the series is somewhat present in the movie but the tone is always serious. Having dumb highschool kid level jokes all the time just makes it seem like very other slice of life anime out there. Not the "oh hey the world is gonna die we better stop it" vibe that the original had. I don't know, just feels like it cheapens and undercuts the seriousness that the series is trying to portray. Kills it for me everytime. Finally; yes there is something you missed about the movie screen play, except it's not really about the screenplay. You didn't grow up watching it like a lot of us did. At the time it was one of the most ambitious and masterful anime movies ever made and I just don't think the series has come anywhere close to capturing that kind of lightning in a bottle.

  • @christopheralvaradojr6704
    @christopheralvaradojr6704 Жыл бұрын

    I prefer the Netflix adaptation cause it shows how tough his opponents are. The visuals to the original spriggan but to many visuals cause lose the viewer away from the story and it can drag on. But definitely phenomenal show to watch! Love Spriggan

  • @CraftDutch
    @CraftDutch5 ай бұрын

    What a detailed review! Good job

  • @jansvoboda4293
    @jansvoboda4293 Жыл бұрын

    For some reason this one evaded me. I will check it out. It reminds me of Full Metal Panic! a bit.

  • @df7817
    @df7817 Жыл бұрын

    By any chance do you have a watch list of all these shows you mentioned

  • @HereticalKitsune
    @HereticalKitsune Жыл бұрын

    Spriggan is one of those anime I really loved as a teenager later. So powerful and brutal and amazing, really cool to see it being remade.

  • @sunnydays760
    @sunnydays760 Жыл бұрын

    What the anime at 6-8 seconds in the intro?

  • @realamericannegro977
    @realamericannegro977 Жыл бұрын

    Ofcourse you will not see a series animated better than a high budget movie. I love the netflix animation.

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    The Netflix series looks great and look up the Onmyoji YT channel their short films showcase just how much flare can be given to a 3D production

  • @realamericannegro977

    @realamericannegro977

    Жыл бұрын

    @@senritsujumpsuit6021 it does looks sick. Looks like guilty Gear strive with more polygons.

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    @@realamericannegro977 its the texture that goes crazy in projects like those :)

  • @josesosa3337

    @josesosa3337

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. You see that a lot with people comparing the worst scenes in dragon ball super with clips from 90s dragon ball movies. Which isn't even fair. I don't think super looks good most of the time but its a BS argument.

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    @@josesosa3337 haha reminds me of this Tweet yesterday saying One Piece now has best animation an I get flashbacks to Chinese works from years ago doing the same if not more the talk of the best is never real XD

  • @Sizdothyx
    @Sizdothyx10 ай бұрын

    One thing I've noticed is that anime protagonists have shrunk since the 2000s.

  • @micann5738
    @micann5738 Жыл бұрын

    They seem like different characters, different personalities

  • @tokyo_god2731

    @tokyo_god2731

    Жыл бұрын

    the netflix adaptation follows the manga more thats probably why

  • @josesosa3337
    @josesosa3337 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone know if the netflix series follows the manga??

  • @adonaiukpe8033
    @adonaiukpe8033 Жыл бұрын

    Studio four degrees?

  • @raissagavrila5199
    @raissagavrila5199 Жыл бұрын

    The movie version is also mixture adaptation from Noah's Ark chapter and COSMOS chapter.. Edit: Hint of the opening is also featured 4 spriggans... Can't wait to see Tea Flatte at next season! 👏👏👏😆

  • @3isr3g3n
    @3isr3g3nАй бұрын

    I mean the new one is nicely done compared to most anime coming out nowadays.. but the animation is so goddamn perfect in the 1998 version, it's just no competition.

  • @robkrol1101
    @robkrol11012 жыл бұрын

    I still have dvd with this movie high quality great action scene i think i give him on MAL 8/10

  • @gjallarhorn456
    @gjallarhorn456 Жыл бұрын

    Netflix did right be me

  • @Narinjas
    @Narinjas5 ай бұрын

    Wait, was this the "safe" testground for the amazing blend of 2D and 3D in Chainsaw-Man? Because i can see them test to see the limits here, lower and higher limits, to dial in the most efficient process for Chainsaw-Man production.

  • @focuswaves9021
    @focuswaves9021 Жыл бұрын

    Pretty good soundtrack, pretty good

  • @julyol119
    @julyol1192 жыл бұрын

    God, I hate 3D CG with a passion. I just can't feel anything towards characters with a visual emotional range of bread. Especially after I've seen how natural and beautiful it actually can look in Arcane. I'm aware that it's not anime, but it showed clearly, that subtle facial expressions and beautiful backgrounds aren't just not possible in the medium. And afaik the budget wasn't even that high. The idea that they make a reboot of Trigun in this ugly ass style already makes me think this will be pure fan bait full of product placement. I really wish they'd stop and think that if they want to make it look 2Desque anyways, sticking to 2D right away would mayyyyybe be an option.

  • @blkghostxx

    @blkghostxx

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dude this 3D animation is some of best in the business. 3D animation works when it’s used right! And spiggan Creators did a great job. Also not 2D animation has it weakness when it comes to action scenes.

  • @androyus

    @androyus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blkghostxx Let him keep being salty. If he won't watch this show just because of some CG-rendered characters, good riddance. More quality entertainment for us, less for him.

  • @julyol119

    @julyol119

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@androyus Actually, me (and many others) not enjoying it does mean there is less made of it. These shows are financed through product placements. Less people watching -> less margin for the sponsors -> less money to make the product.

  • @julyol119

    @julyol119

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blkghostxx It's surely better then many others, but basically in the way, that it looks more 2D. Amazing 3D is absolutely possible, it's just not great for anime the way it is used right now. It's repetitive and somehow sluggish and stuttery at the same time and mostly has a hard time fitting in the environments. Especially the light sources not being respected are a dead giveaway even if you try to ignore it. It's total uncanny valley territory seeing something that is 3D but trying to be 2D. What makes me so pissed off is that it's possible to be better, but it's just not being done. Additionally, I just don't see a benefit in making something that is objectively worse then the original other then to make money off of the fans. This is not making a great show for the sake of making a great show. I'd rather take 3 actually great new anime per year then 40 new crappy cheap anime in a season. I'm also not telling you what to like or not like. If all this doesn't bother you, that's great. But I'm absolutely entitled not to enjoy something.

  • @androyus

    @androyus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@julyol119 Meh, they still made GITS SAC season 2 even though there are people like you who hate that show as much as you hate this Spriggan.

  • @caydensartanimations3301
    @caydensartanimations33012 жыл бұрын

    At least it doesn’t look like berserk 2016-17

  • @alinotheraphy

    @alinotheraphy

    Жыл бұрын

    nothing will ever be worse than berserk 2016

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    this comparison is BS CG is a great art form like any other that show does not ruin any other shows

  • @slyngn7847
    @slyngn7847 Жыл бұрын

    I always thought that ARCAM was more like "Warehouse 13."

  • @cirinosaldana4289
    @cirinosaldana4289 Жыл бұрын

    I like the Netflix anime, but I'd like it more if the suit wasn't so flashy, the rest are cool, and I love the cold war feeling of it, though the Netflix version of the ark episode I don't like, it went way to fast, what would be pretty cool if they made a reboot of the movie, it would be modern, but still have the cold war feeling of it, some of the episodes can be prequels, it has a lot of potential, they just need to fix it.

  • @ninjammer726
    @ninjammer7262 жыл бұрын

    Interesting

  • @RaymondoPerson
    @RaymondoPerson2 жыл бұрын

    lol of course they left out the "Hitler had some good in him" arc out to avoid controversy. I like the TV more than the movie even if it's not as technically impressive; it's still very aesthetically tasteful and it nails the manga's vibe. I do want to rewatch the movie and appreciate it for its own merits instead of comparing it to the manga though.

  • @gibakigamer4041
    @gibakigamer4041 Жыл бұрын

    There was a spriggan game in the ps1.

  • @andrazprelec8263
    @andrazprelec8263 Жыл бұрын

    Alright but does it have the handgun

  • @alinotheraphy
    @alinotheraphy Жыл бұрын

    such good animes like berserk and spriggan can never be re-made in more good/interesting way especially with 3d animation, can someone just ban remakes from existing? please don't touch memories or jin-roh, or ghost in the shell, etc

  • @angrymetalhead

    @angrymetalhead

    Жыл бұрын

    I couldn't agree more. Netflix spriggan is trash. No need to remake it with a bunch of edgy teen bullshit in it imho. The classics are classics for a goddamn reason, let's keep them that way.

  • @richie1098
    @richie1098 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoy the Netflix Spriggan just only for its use of CG for the standard military soldiers with tactical gear and stuff. Its pretty well done than anything I seen. But both Spriggan films are the goat overall.

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    it looks good people say CG is fully worthless are going against art as a whole while in China they have tons of styles of 2D an 3D airing side by side an its wonderful

  • @emiliopineda5962
    @emiliopineda5962 Жыл бұрын

    Prefiero mas el lore y animación 2d de spriggan 1998 el arca de noe por q la versión 3d de netflix esta 50/50 le falta chispa

  • @xenocyde8498
    @xenocyde8498 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly hate the new shows animation because to me cg like this is just cheap and lazy looking and has a very.... jittery flow to it

  • @jacobstaten2366
    @jacobstaten2366 Жыл бұрын

    The new version has a lot of flat camera angles, but what really bothers me is how skinny he is. He looks like his power armor is spray painted on or he must be a skeleton underneath. They keep using CGI to animate characters, which make them look wooden.

  • @AgentZeroNine1
    @AgentZeroNine1 Жыл бұрын

    "Yeah, it doesn't reach the highs of the 2D hand drawing show, but..." I swear I hear some variation of this phrase in every KZreadr comparison of something that was originally 2D, but now is 3D. 3D models in anime seemingly moving towards becoming the norm means we'll see a lot less of those awesome memorable scenes from Ghost in The Shell, Redline, One Punch Man S1, Netflix's Castlevania, Dragon Ball Super: Broly (minus its 3D models scenes). Instead we'll get "Yeah, the fight scenes were fine" if we're lucky, and a 'Into The Spiderverse' every decade. Imagine how terrible that Chun LI vs Vega fight scene from the Street Fighter movie would look like in 3D in comparison to the original scene with the same budget.

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    the hate trains is BS its like saying wow some shows have 2D am not that into so 2D must suck its dumb look at China its making tons of styles of 3D an 2D an thriving for it

  • @MrKrachachla
    @MrKrachachla Жыл бұрын

    I'm getting strong Naruto vibes from the Netflix version To me that lightweight anime tone/cliches isn't the reason why I watched original anime. It dilutes the intense atmosphere of the og :/

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    so your saying them not just making the whole series to be of mostly plotless gore movie where the MC has no purpose beyond I kickass

  • @mpo48

    @mpo48

    Жыл бұрын

    except the 1998 movie is not the og, the manga is so the tone of the movie is actually incorrect to whatever the tone was in the movie.

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mpo48 yup which reminds me of the ungoing Trigun Stampede where some people hate it for not being true Trigun while the OG show they worship is mostly filler

  • @mpo48

    @mpo48

    Жыл бұрын

    @@senritsujumpsuit6021 i don't get why people can't appreciate both, it's not like these are some Hollywood style remakes that completely miss the point of the source material.

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mpo48 yeah an even those Hollywood ones are not all bad

  • @Sakurajima616
    @Sakurajima616 Жыл бұрын

    The 2022 Version of Spriggan is pure Garbage. The Original has beautiful animation, the 2022 Version is a Computer Nightmare.

  • @madmacvengeance6131
    @madmacvengeance61315 ай бұрын

    Both them are great was hoping they continue to season 2 about the 3rd reich its impossible to pursue it im sure alot of drama going on it

  • @jacobstaten2366
    @jacobstaten2366 Жыл бұрын

    9:56 No, no it really doesn't work that well. It's very jarring and cheap looking already and cgi ages poorly and quickly. Go back and watch good cgi like in Fellowship of the Ring. The movie version still one of the best, so we're going backwards in handrawn quality and animation overall.

  • @guotyr2502
    @guotyr2502 Жыл бұрын

    Not even close to the 90s version

  • @meras1549
    @meras1549 Жыл бұрын

    Nothing sbout Cyberpunk? Sad

  • @nathanknight848
    @nathanknight848 Жыл бұрын

    I prefer Netflix far superior and follows the manga

  • @Helaman1111
    @Helaman1111 Жыл бұрын

    The Netflix adaptation isnt meant for fans of the movie. It’s meant to introduce a different generation to the world. While it follows the same story, it’s not a “remake”. By “remake” I mean a 1 to 1 adaptation. The show wasn’t created for old fans to relive watching the movie for the first time. Instead it tries to give a unique experience while telling the same story.

  • @ramongossler1726
    @ramongossler1726Ай бұрын

    the netflix series is really bad compared to the 1998 movie. the translation, adaptation and execution was far better 20 years ago. the series feels like a standard cgi book to tv adaptation. also the obsession with the whole "high school" thing was made really bad in the series. it felt like a standard school drama bs anime. im really disappointed by the series

  • @DirtRider999
    @DirtRider999 Жыл бұрын

    It's like a wanna be akira. Little grey kids. And special powers

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    this comment makes no sense

  • @ODSTxGundam

    @ODSTxGundam

    Жыл бұрын

    @@senritsujumpsuit6021 it makes perfect sense if you've watched both the akira movie and the spriggan movie.

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021

    @senritsujumpsuit6021

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ODSTxGundam I have seen Akira but the wannabe part is like saying any powerful scifi child is Akira xd

  • @judahguerrero1090
    @judahguerrero10902 жыл бұрын

    Can anyone who seen it already tell me how they paint Christianity here? I heard there are religious views. I saw the movie as a kid and it had to do with like Noah's ark covenant or something. I'm just looking for a good anime that isn't woke lol.

  • @bluedrago4483

    @bluedrago4483

    2 жыл бұрын

    If I remember correctly they put it like alien's power in the movie spriggan.

  • @androyus

    @androyus

    2 жыл бұрын

    What is your definition of "woke" anyway? Anything that doesn't align with Christianity or makes it look bad? If so then I have bad news for you: aside from a select few, since the 70s until this very second, anime always treat Christianity as nothing more than a fancy plot device that they can portray however they want to fit the story. From Evangelion to Hellsing to Index, etc.

  • @judahguerrero1090

    @judahguerrero1090

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@androyus that's not really bad news and you misinterpreted my comment. Woke is forced ideology in forms of subtle connotations that are embedded in the characters back story. I've played many games and watched many movies where beliefs didn't align with my own and I had no problem with that, because it was done in natural way that made sense for the fictional world it was conveying to. Wokeism is different, it doesn't care for adding substance into its own fictional world but adding it to reality in this world, so it becomes lecture to the viewers. It's everywhere nowadays and I was just asking for an opinion that was it. And Japan relatively conservative with conservative ideals and principles, that's why you don't see a lot of the woke propaganda in their TV shows, movies and video games. So stay salty my brother

  • @androyus

    @androyus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@judahguerrero1090 This Netflix Spriggan is actually more faithful to the manga than the movie. As long as you don't mind that American agencies are being portrayed negatively, you should have no problem with it. Heck, this whole video already explained it to you.

  • @judahguerrero1090

    @judahguerrero1090

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@androyus Eh, I saw the video but everyone has a difference of perspectives, I was just trying to get another one on it,

  • @nicholasmelo7170
    @nicholasmelo7170 Жыл бұрын

    anime animations on netflix is trash.

  • @QuietGuitaristfan
    @QuietGuitaristfan Жыл бұрын

    2d and 3d together are garbage. Keep it 2d.

  • @josesosa3337

    @josesosa3337

    Жыл бұрын

    Its all about lighting and technique. 2d can work with 3d.

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